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F1 Challenge question

Uwe Schürkam

F1 Challenge question

by Uwe Schürkam » Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:44:22

Hi folks,

I have a question about F1C driving style.

I did about 50 laps at Melbourne last night in various cars using
various setups (RH Season 2003), trying to better my best laptime of
1m30.7xx something. So far I have put in about 200 laps at Melbourne
total, not counting those done in F1 2001 and F1 2002.

The setups I have tried claim best laps of 1m26 or even better in the
comment section, and I wonder how these laptimes are at all possible?

Using my trusty non-ff TSW2, I'm hard put to even break the 1m31
barrier, and I simply cannot see where I'm supposed to find yet even
another second on the track!

Checking the telemetry tells me I am using a good amount of the "outer
rim" of the friction circle, pulling max lateral accelerations of +/-
3.5g, accelerations of -1.x and decelerations of up to -3.5, in other
words I am on the throttle, apply full brakes and corner on the car's
physical limit as should be. I usually brake going past the 100m
marker at most corners (no steering aids, just TC set to low).

My GPL handicap is -27, so I'm not exactly a newbie when it comes to
simracing. I try not to slide around, get good exit speeds, have read
the F1C driving guide front to back, but simply cannot find even
another second to go below 1m30 after hundreds of laps in F1C.

Question: What's the key to these times of sub 27s? Taking 3 laps of
fuel instead of ten? applying full wheel lock on turn-ins (tried that,
too!) Braking late? Braking early? Carry speed? Not touching the game
if you're a day over 30?

I'd be most grateful for any advice that even gets me a sub 1m30 at
Melbourne. Not that it's important, but I'd like to know what it takes
to go fast.

Cheers & thanks in advance,

uwe

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Txl

F1 Challenge question

by Txl » Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:41:53

It's a revenge from all the people whose life you've wasted with gplrank
!!!

TXL who went yesterday from 4500+ to 4368...

More seriously did you try cutting more corners ? I think with the accel
power of a modern F1 compared to our GPL cars taking the shorter line is
always the good option....

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Damien Evan

F1 Challenge question

by Damien Evan » Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:09:40

I used to play F1 2002+mods quite a bit and their was a utility called 'VCR
Merge' which allowed me to merge 2 hotlap files together (sort of like a
ghost mode) and then it was easy to see where I was losing time.  Obviously
you need to download some laps from the fast guys to see this.  I found that
I could sometimes take certain corners just as fast as those guys - it was
just doing it for 10+ corners per lap that I couldn't manage. :-(
jason moy

F1 Challenge question

by jason moy » Mon, 26 Jan 2004 12:21:22

Sorry for the top-reply, don't feel like editing this bear of a post.
=p

Things I'd try:

1. turning off traction control
2. using less wheel lock
3. braking at the 50m mark

Honestly, I do 28's with my own setup and drive basically as you
described below except for the traction control.  Your best bet,
ultimately, may be grabbing a telemetry file of a faster lap and
comparing it to yours.

Jason

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 09:44:22 +0100, Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?=


>Hi folks,

>I have a question about F1C driving style.

>I did about 50 laps at Melbourne last night in various cars using
>various setups (RH Season 2003), trying to better my best laptime of
>1m30.7xx something. So far I have put in about 200 laps at Melbourne
>total, not counting those done in F1 2001 and F1 2002.

>The setups I have tried claim best laps of 1m26 or even better in the
>comment section, and I wonder how these laptimes are at all possible?

>Using my trusty non-ff TSW2, I'm hard put to even break the 1m31
>barrier, and I simply cannot see where I'm supposed to find yet even
>another second on the track!

>Checking the telemetry tells me I am using a good amount of the "outer
>rim" of the friction circle, pulling max lateral accelerations of +/-
>3.5g, accelerations of -1.x and decelerations of up to -3.5, in other
>words I am on the throttle, apply full brakes and corner on the car's
>physical limit as should be. I usually brake going past the 100m
>marker at most corners (no steering aids, just TC set to low).

>My GPL handicap is -27, so I'm not exactly a newbie when it comes to
>simracing. I try not to slide around, get good exit speeds, have read
>the F1C driving guide front to back, but simply cannot find even
>another second to go below 1m30 after hundreds of laps in F1C.

>Question: What's the key to these times of sub 27s? Taking 3 laps of
>fuel instead of ten? applying full wheel lock on turn-ins (tried that,
>too!) Braking late? Braking early? Carry speed? Not touching the game
>if you're a day over 30?

>I'd be most grateful for any advice that even gets me a sub 1m30 at
>Melbourne. Not that it's important, but I'd like to know what it takes
>to go fast.

>Cheers & thanks in advance,

>uwe

>--
>mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox)
>Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/
>Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E)
>GPG Fingerprint:  2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F  67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61


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