David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> P.S after checking seems your lap at france is faster, shame I have a10.5,
> i did use IVR aid though :) id go back and find another 0.8 mate...seems
> most of my GPL commerades are low 10's or 9's, thats where to be....
>
> If you roll the mouse over the name youll get the upload date...*hint*....
Well it seems if you do that while in F12002 you get June 25th at 12:00am
which was 3 hours before your post....*hint*.... that's why I made the
comment. I have noticed if you go directly to the site it shows the actual
time which was 3 hours after you posted. Sorry... Made a mistake and am Man
enough to admit it! :-O
>
> Anyway go and beat my 20th June Suzuka lap, im sure that will make youfeel
> better, as thats the only lap ive tried for so far.....im sure if i go and
> find some better setups ill drop another 0.8 or so :o)
No Problem! Been there and Done that! 1:32.708 beats your 1:32.978 doesn't
it:-) http://f1lap.ea-europe.com/lapup/default.aspx And Again David I
didn't use any Aids as you did!
That was way too easy David! You gotta give me a harder challenge than just
beating your cheapass laps. But... since you suggested I do that, How about
you going and beating my 1:17.300 at Monaco... If you can! hehehe
David, this is proving nothing....Other than I will always be able to beat
any of your times if I try. Besides this is hotlapping which doesn't mean
crap! Why don't you act like a Man and get your arse on the track with me?
I would gladly kick your arse for all of the slower guys that you have
probably given shit to.
David, Here is a bigger challenge if you are up to it. Try to post to RAS
something that is positive or helpful to someone for a change. Think you
could handle that one? Go David! You can do it David! I am sure all of
RAS is cheering for you David. <RRRRRBG> really really really really really
big grin
got
> > near the limit on in my week for F12002...the magny was poor, and the
> brazil
> > lap well :) slow....
> >
> > P.S, your dribbling....i havent seen or saw any of your laps on EA wheni
> > was last there 2months ago....maybe 6weeks....only person i recognisedwas
> > DonDuham, Tridon and Luke Mclean....and JD...
> >
> > Its all in your head mate....
Flame warGeorge Sandman and David Powell feud over GPL speed
The dispute between former top sim racer George Sandman and David Powell escalated into a long exchange of insults about who was faster in GPL and F1 2002, hotlapping versus racing, and challenges to race on VROC. Many posters sided with Sandman and called Powell arrogant. Late in August the thread drifted into members announcing breaks from sim racing.
Automated summary.
Needed saying,this David Powell seems a bully to me,with arrogance,without
substance to merit the arrogance.
Andy
you ladies...i bet my handbags bigger than yours.....
Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Needed saying,this David Powell seems a bully to me,with arrogance,without > substance to merit the arrogance. > > > Andy > >theres a bunch of laps to beat in GPL george, 63 of them....there good laps,
i challenge you to to beat my eagle nurburgring lap...
as you say these are cheap arse laps in f12002, as i dont play it....it does
make a nice drinks matt though....
In GPL ive only seen me beat all your laps in ever car at every track so far
and you beat a few lame laps ive done in an easy game like F12002...
Im sure this bitterness comes from me being about 20secs faster overall at
gpl and having only played it for 3months in the last year :)
Face it mate ya small fry....:o)
I cant even believe im wasting my time typing...
Your ranked 129th in the world at GPL im No.10.....even my brabham rank is
faster than your overall rank....eagles your car isnt it, shame im 20secs
faster overall in it -74.89.
129 George Sandman United States -57.12 2001-10-28 if i'd have updated the
on the same day as you last year id have been -78...would have been faster
but i spent the next 5months in the pacific sunning my ass....
George the only records that ever been broken between us is your laps by me,
I have 52 laps faster than you in each chassis, you have two laps faster
me...
I conclude this arguement as pointless....
Go beat some times in a decent game....!
http://home.clara.net/david.powell4 you might find some setups to help you
beat some laps here, and some laps to watch how its done....
Asta Luego!
David
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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date...*hint*....
>
> Well it seems if you do that while in F12002 you get June 25th at 12:00am
> which was 3 hours before your post....*hint*.... that's why I made the
> comment. I have noticed if you go directly to the site it shows theactual
> time which was 3 hours after you posted. Sorry... Made a mistake and amMan
> enough to admit it! :-O
> >
> > Anyway go and beat my 20th June Suzuka lap, im sure that will make you
> feel
> > better, as thats the only lap ive tried for so far.....im sure if i goand
> > find some better setups ill drop another 0.8 or so :o)
>
> No Problem! Been there and Done that! 1:32.708 beats your 1:32.978doesn't
> it:-) http://f1lap.ea-europe.com/lapup/default.aspx And Again David I
> didn't use any Aids as you did!
>
> That was way too easy David! You gotta give me a harder challenge thanjust
> beating your cheapass laps. But... since you suggested I do that, Howabout
> you going and beating my 1:17.300 at Monaco... If you can! hehehe
>
> David, this is proving nothing....Other than I will always be able to beat
> any of your times if I try. Besides this is hotlapping which doesn't mean
> crap! Why don't you act like a Man and get your arse on the track withme?
> I would gladly kick your arse for all of the slower guys that you have
> probably given shit to.
>
> David, Here is a bigger challenge if you are up to it. Try to post toRAS
> something that is positive or helpful to someone for a change. Think you
> could handle that one? Go David! You can do it David! I am sure all of
> RAS is cheering for you David. <RRRRRBG> really really really reallyreally
without
when
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> David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:<[email hidden]>... > > P.S after checking seems your lap at france is faster, shame I have a > 10.5, > > i did use IVR aid though :) id go back and find another 0.8 mate...seems > > most of my GPL commerades are low 10's or 9's, thats where to be.... > > > > If you roll the mouse over the name youll get the uploadQuoted text (9 lines)
> big grin > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > "Oh David you are so full of Crap. You say this after you see that I > > > posted > > > faster times at the same tracks you just mentioned. and I did itQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > having to use aids like you did. Just face it. Your chicken!" > > > > > > George your imagining things now.... > > > > > > As i said i have a lap for suzuka and thats the one track i tried and > got > > > near the limit on in my week for F12002...the magny was poor, and the > > brazil > > > lap well :) slow.... > > > > > > P.S, your dribbling....i havent seen or saw any of your laps on EAQuoted text (9 lines)
> i > > > was last there 2months ago....maybe 6weeks....only person i recognised > was > > > DonDuham, Tridon and Luke Mclean....and JD... > > > > > > Its all in your head mate.... > > >David David David... You just don't learn. You ran GPL a full 2 years
after I gave up on it. My God man I hope you would be faster by now! if
you want to make a comparison then you check Gregors laps at that time when
I ran then you check them now. you will see a big diff as people do keep
learning. See I was still using the orig rear gear ratio's also. They were
just changing to 60/30 when I quit. If I was still running GPL I guarantee
that you would be nothing but behind in my mirrors if you were that lucky.
And for your information you jerk it is consistency that wins not fastlaps!
That's is the real reason you are chicken to race with me. I don't have to
worry about consistency I have won 7 championships over the years. with the
last one being the first MOG league championship with 3 races to go.
http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html See the name on top you ass! Then
I semi retired from GPL didn't realize it right away but the drive to run
it was gone. Gregor even invited me to run on his team and I kinda let him
down by not showing up. I am very sorry about that but I did loose interest
in Sim Racing at that time.
BUT if you will guarantee that you will shut your mouth if I beat your time
at the Ring then I will be very tempted to dig out the GPL CD. You would be
toast!
Here is a link of some of my times back in summer of 99.
http://home.snafu.de/xoph/hlea5gs.html I think you will see that these are
some of the times on my GPL Rank. That GPL Rank you are referring to was
resent in in later as the first was deleted cause I didn't have a replay to
back up a 1:23 at Monaco. Yeah I was the first to run 1:23's asshole! I
was the first to run 104's at the glen (may be wrong at the Glen, Rick
Pridden might have beat me to it. memory is not as great as it use to be
after you turn 40) I was the first to set fast laps at most all of the
tracks with the exception of the ring, I just never got into lapping there.
Prolly cause it was almost 20 mins before you could get your first lap time.
But will get the CD out if you state you will shut your face in front of all
of RAS. Yeah right!
David, You being the jerk that you are run for years after, and think you
are so great! I was matching laps with Gregor at most all tracks at the
time! and I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child and a wife
that demanded my time.
You challenged me to go beat the Suzuka time you had. And as you say is the
only one you put time into and I DID! Face it you are a Yellow bellied
chicken that wont race on a track with me. you just go on benchracin my
friend and the shit will stop the day I see you on the track. BTW after all
of this crap you say don't be surprised if I put you into the wall:-) Well
that is if you can even get near me :-O
The point is you challenged me to beat your lap and I did and now you
challenge me to go beat another????? What track will you challenge me on
after I beat that one? What will you challenge me on next after that?
Will await your next trash talk away from the track, cause your Chicken to
run on a Track!
George Sandman
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> theres a bunch of laps to beat in GPL george, 63 of them....there goodlaps,
> i challenge you to to beat my eagle nurburgring lap...
>
> as you say these are cheap arse laps in f12002, as i dont play it....itdoes
> make a nice drinks matt though....
>
> In GPL ive only seen me beat all your laps in ever car at every track sofar
me,
mate...seems
> > > most of my GPL commerades are low 10's or 9's, thats where to be....
> > >
> > > If you roll the mouse over the name youll get the upload
> date...*hint*....
> >
> > Well it seems if you do that while in F12002 you get June 25th at12:00am
beat
> > any of your times if I try. Besides this is hotlapping which doesn'tmean
you
> > could handle that one? Go David! You can do it David! I am sure allof
I
and
> > got
> > > > near the limit on in my week for F12002...the magny was poor, andthe
recognised
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> and you beat a few lame laps ive done in an easy game like F12002... > > Im sure this bitterness comes from me being about 20secs faster overall at > gpl and having only played it for 3months in the last year :) > > Face it mate ya small fry....:o) > > I cant even believe im wasting my time typing... > > Your ranked 129th in the world at GPL im No.10.....even my brabham rank is > faster than your overall rank....eagles your car isnt it, shame im 20secs > faster overall in it -74.89. > > 129 George Sandman United States -57.12 2001-10-28 if i'd have updated the > on the same day as you last year id have been -78...would have been faster > but i spent the next 5months in the pacific sunning my ass.... > > George the only records that ever been broken between us is your laps byQuoted text (27 lines)
> I have 52 laps faster than you in each chassis, you have two laps faster > me... > > I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > Go beat some times in a decent game....! > http://home.clara.net/david.powell4 you might find some setups to help you > beat some laps here, and some laps to watch how its done.... > > Asta Luego! > > David > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > P.S after checking seems your lap at france is faster, shame I have a > > 10.5, > > > i did use IVR aid though :) id go back and find another 0.8Quoted text (25 lines)
> > which was 3 hours before your post....*hint*.... that's why I made the > > comment. I have noticed if you go directly to the site it shows the > actual > > time which was 3 hours after you posted. Sorry... Made a mistake and am > Man > > enough to admit it! :-O > > > > > > Anyway go and beat my 20th June Suzuka lap, im sure that will make you > > feel > > > better, as thats the only lap ive tried for so far.....im sure if i go > and > > > find some better setups ill drop another 0.8 or so :o) > > > > No Problem! Been there and Done that! 1:32.708 beats your 1:32.978 > doesn't > > it:-) http://f1lap.ea-europe.com/lapup/default.aspx And Again David I > > didn't use any Aids as you did! > > > > That was way too easy David! You gotta give me a harder challenge than > just > > beating your cheapass laps. But... since you suggested I do that, How > about > > you going and beating my 1:17.300 at Monaco... If you can! hehehe > > > > David, this is proving nothing....Other than I will always be able toQuoted text (8 lines)
> > crap! Why don't you act like a Man and get your arse on the track with > me? > > I would gladly kick your arse for all of the slower guys that you have > > probably given shit to. > > > > David, Here is a bigger challenge if you are up to it. Try to post to > RAS > > something that is positive or helpful to someone for a change. ThinkQuoted text (9 lines)
> > RAS is cheering for you David. <RRRRRBG> really really really really > really > > big grin > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > "Oh David you are so full of Crap. You say this after you see thatQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > > posted > > > > faster times at the same tracks you just mentioned. and I did it > without > > > > having to use aids like you did. Just face it. Your chicken!" > > > > > > > > George your imagining things now.... > > > > > > > > As i said i have a lap for suzuka and thats the one track i triedQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > brazil > > > > lap well :) slow.... > > > > > > > > P.S, your dribbling....i havent seen or saw any of your laps on EA > when > > i > > > > was last there 2months ago....maybe 6weeks....only person iQuoted text (9 lines)
> > was > > > > DonDuham, Tridon and Luke Mclean....and JD... > > > > > > > > Its all in your head mate.... > > > > > > > ><Big Snip>
Just went to VROC and soon as I get in there I am told to challenge David to
a race. He is only a hotlapper! then David leaves hahahaha
ROFLMAO
George Sandman
Powell was an ass the first time I ever saw him on
VROC. Things haven't changed.
George is the man!
"Pat Dotson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Powell was an ass the first time I ever saw him on
> VROC. Things haven't changed.
>
> George is the man! I have been SOUNDLY beaten by both George and Pat....but never
Powell....go figure hehehehe
dave henrie
GPL Rank 96.sumpthin
Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-)
BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David Powells web
page!
Why does this guy remind me of Savats?
George
Joachim Trensz <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hi George, > > "George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > ...[most substantial snip of all times]... ;-) > > > I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child and a wife > > that demanded my time. > > What you need is a three-seater! ;-) > > [smaller snip within previously seen dimensions] ;-) > > Achim > >I want to take that back. Savats even being conceded and self centered like
he is has way more class then David will ever have.
Appoligies to Savats!
George
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> Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-) > > BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David Powells web > page! > Why does this guy remind me of Savats? > > George > > Joachim Trensz <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aiii4n$14da55$[email hidden]... > > Hi George, > > > > "George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > ...[most substantial snip of all times]... ;-) > > > > > I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child and a wife > > > that demanded my time. > > > > What you need is a three-seater! ;-) > > > > [smaller snip within previously seen dimensions] ;-) > > > > Achim > > > > > >George Sandman wrote:
>
> Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-)
>
> BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David Powells web
> page!
URL ?
This is getting better and better......
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
> Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-)
> BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David Powells web
> page!
URL ?
This is getting better and better......
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
Hi George,
"George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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...[most substantial snip of all times]... ;-)
> I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child and a wife
> that demanded my time.
What you need is a three-seater! ;-)
[smaller snip within previously seen dimensions] ;-)
Achim
I am not sure Achim, I havent heard from him since early 2000 I believe. I
believe he was running in some N4 league not too long ago.
George
Joachim Trensz <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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web
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> I'd forgotten about Savats entirely - do you have any idea what Savats is > doing ATM in terms of sim racing? > > Achim > > > "George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-) > > > > BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David PowellsQuoted text (8 lines)
> > page! > > Why does this guy remind me of Savats? > > > > George > > > >I'd forgotten about Savats entirely - do you have any idea what Savats is
doing ATM in terms of sim racing?
Achim
"George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-) > > BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David Powells web > page! > Why does this guy remind me of Savats? > > GeorgeAfter reading this great thread i did a little research on you George :)
It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits.
Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you and you were
the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch.
His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm to save his
ego etched face.
It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell's eyes
whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best in his
eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al.
Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like the above
mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by his words to
you George.
RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the 'ammunition' to sort
out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and eventually he
will relent to your greater ability.
Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revert to a
different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you ,whichever
takes the spoils :)
Nice work George.:)
Andy
"Goy Larsen" wrote...
> > <snip>
> URL ?
>
> This is getting better and better......
http://home.clara.net/david.powell4
Be ready for it tho'... I don't know what browser or resolution this site is
coded for, but it looks real weird in my IE6.
Jan.
=---
I'll even provide a server if there's a 'grudge match'...
Eldred
--
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPLRank:+8.09
N2002 Rank:+22.329
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On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>I conclude this arguement as pointless....
If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing
about hotlapping.
Jason
George!
Long time no see!
I've seen some of your laps on F12002, so I knew you were around still.
What ever did become of old SAVATS anyways?
You had some great battles with him. You may not remember me, I used to be
rik anthrax way back in the ICR2 days. (yea the guy with an attitude)
Take care man.
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> Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-) > > BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David Powells web > page! > Why does this guy remind me of Savats? > > George > > Joachim Trensz <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aiii4n$14da55$[email hidden]... > > Hi George, > > > > "George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > ...[most substantial snip of all times]... ;-) > > > > > I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child and a wife > > > that demanded my time. > > > > What you need is a three-seater! ;-) > > > > [smaller snip within previously seen dimensions] ;-) > > > > Achim > > > > > >"EldredP" wrote...
> I'll even provide a server if there's a 'grudge match'...
Hmmm... depends on whether we can get Kruuse and Bjornstad to come out now
I've passed them on GPLRank. ;-)
Jan.
=---
I just did a search on the net and found out that he has a fanclub whose
membership apparently costs $60? Wow :)
I also saw a race report where they said he grabbed the pole at a Sears race
'...with a blistering lap of 91.197 mph...' <g>
Achim
"George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I am not sure Achim, I havent heard from him since early 2000 I believe.I
> believe he was running in some N4 league not too long ago.
>
> George
> Joachim Trensz <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > I'd forgotten about Savats entirely - do you have any idea what Savatsis
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> > doing ATM in terms of sim racing? > > > > Achim > > > > > > "George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-) > > > > > > BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David Powells > web > > > page! > > > Why does this guy remind me of Savats? > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > >Jan Verschueren wrote:
Thx, same in Opera, yes I have both installed :-), this is much better
than reality shows on TV :-)))
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
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> > "Goy Larsen" wrote... > > > <snip> > > URL ? > > > > This is getting better and better...... > > http://home.clara.net/david.powell4 > > Be ready for it tho'... I don't know what browser or resolution this site is > coded for, but it looks real weird in my IE6.Quoted text (10 lines)
> "Goy Larsen" wrote... > > > <snip> > > URL ? > > This is getting better and better...... > http://home.clara.net/david.powell4 > Be ready for it tho'... I don't know what browser or resolution this site is > coded for, but it looks real weird in my IE6.mate ya sounding desperate now...why exactly to you feel the need to write
all this to justify yourself to me?
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> David David David... You just don't learn. You ran GPL a full 2 years
> after I gave up on it. My God man I hope you would be faster by now! if
> you want to make a comparison then you check Gregors laps at that timewhen
> I ran then you check them now. you will see a big diff as people do keep
> learning. See I was still using the orig rear gear ratio's also. Theywere
> just changing to 60/30 when I quit. If I was still running GPL I guarantee
> that you would be nothing but behind in my mirrors if you were that lucky.
>
> And for your information you jerk it is consistency that wins notfastlaps!
> That's is the real reason you are chicken to race with me. I don't have to
> worry about consistency I have won 7 championships over the years. withthe
> last one being the first MOG league championship with 3 races to go.
> http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html See the name on top you ass!Then
> I semi retired from GPL didn't realize it right away but the drive to run
> it was gone. Gregor even invited me to run on his team and I kinda lethim
> down by not showing up. I am very sorry about that but I did looseinterest
> in Sim Racing at that time.
>
> BUT if you will guarantee that you will shut your mouth if I beat yourtime
> at the Ring then I will be very tempted to dig out the GPL CD. You wouldbe
> toast!
>
> Here is a link of some of my times back in summer of 99.
> http://home.snafu.de/xoph/hlea5gs.html I think you will see that these are
> some of the times on my GPL Rank. That GPL Rank you are referring to was
> resent in in later as the first was deleted cause I didn't have a replayto
> back up a 1:23 at Monaco. Yeah I was the first to run 1:23's asshole! I
> was the first to run 104's at the glen (may be wrong at the Glen, Rick
> Pridden might have beat me to it. memory is not as great as it use to be
> after you turn 40) I was the first to set fast laps at most all of the
> tracks with the exception of the ring, I just never got into lappingthere.
> Prolly cause it was almost 20 mins before you could get your first laptime.
> But will get the CD out if you state you will shut your face in front ofall
> of RAS. Yeah right!
>
> David, You being the jerk that you are run for years after, and think you
> are so great! I was matching laps with Gregor at most all tracks at the
> time! and I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child and awife
> that demanded my time.
>
> You challenged me to go beat the Suzuka time you had. And as you say isthe
> only one you put time into and I DID! Face it you are a Yellow bellied
> chicken that wont race on a track with me. you just go on benchracin my
> friend and the shit will stop the day I see you on the track. BTW afterall
at
is
> > faster than your overall rank....eagles your car isnt it, shame im20secs
> > faster overall in it -74.89.
> >
> > 129 George Sandman United States -57.12 2001-10-28 if i'd have updatedthe
> > on the same day as you last year id have been -78...would have beenfaster
you
a
the
> > > comment. I have noticed if you go directly to the site it shows the
> > actual
> > > time which was 3 hours after you posted. Sorry... Made a mistake andam
> > Man
> > > enough to admit it! :-O
> > > >
> > > > Anyway go and beat my 20th June Suzuka lap, im sure that will makeyou
> > > feel
> > > > better, as thats the only lap ive tried for so far.....im sure if igo
than
with
> > me?
> > > I would gladly kick your arse for all of the slower guys that you have
> > > probably given shit to.
> > >
> > > David, Here is a bigger challenge if you are up to it. Try to postto
> > RAS
> > > something that is positive or helpful to someone for a change. Think
> you
> > > could handle that one? Go David! You can do it David! I am sureall
that
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> of this crap you say don't be surprised if I put you into the wall:-) Well > that is if you can even get near me :-O > > The point is you challenged me to beat your lap and I did and now you > challenge me to go beat another????? What track will you challenge me on > after I beat that one? What will you challenge me on next after that? > > Will await your next trash talk away from the track, cause your Chicken to > run on a Track! > > George Sandman > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > theres a bunch of laps to beat in GPL george, 63 of them....there good > laps, > > i challenge you to to beat my eagle nurburgring lap... > > > > as you say these are cheap arse laps in f12002, as i dont play it....it > does > > make a nice drinks matt though.... > > > > In GPL ive only seen me beat all your laps in ever car at every track so > far > > and you beat a few lame laps ive done in an easy game like F12002... > > > > Im sure this bitterness comes from me being about 20secs faster overallQuoted text (7 lines)
> > gpl and having only played it for 3months in the last year :) > > > > Face it mate ya small fry....:o) > > > > I cant even believe im wasting my time typing... > > > > Your ranked 129th in the world at GPL im No.10.....even my brabham rankQuoted text (12 lines)
> > but i spent the next 5months in the pacific sunning my ass.... > > > > George the only records that ever been broken between us is your laps by > me, > > I have 52 laps faster than you in each chassis, you have two laps faster > > me... > > > > I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > Go beat some times in a decent game....! > > > http://home.clara.net/david.powell4 you might find some setups to helpQuoted text (17 lines)
> > beat some laps here, and some laps to watch how its done.... > > > > Asta Luego! > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > P.S after checking seems your lap at france is faster, shame I haveQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > 10.5, > > > > i did use IVR aid though :) id go back and find another 0.8 > mate...seems > > > > most of my GPL commerades are low 10's or 9's, thats where to be.... > > > > > > > > If you roll the mouse over the name youll get the upload > > date...*hint*.... > > > > > > Well it seems if you do that while in F12002 you get June 25th at > 12:00am > > > which was 3 hours before your post....*hint*.... that's why I madeQuoted text (9 lines)
> > and > > > > find some better setups ill drop another 0.8 or so :o) > > > > > > No Problem! Been there and Done that! 1:32.708 beats your 1:32.978 > > doesn't > > > it:-) http://f1lap.ea-europe.com/lapup/default.aspx And Again David I > > > didn't use any Aids as you did! > > > > > > That was way too easy David! You gotta give me a harder challengeQuoted text (10 lines)
> > just > > > beating your cheapass laps. But... since you suggested I do that, How > > about > > > you going and beating my 1:17.300 at Monaco... If you can! hehehe > > > > > > David, this is proving nothing....Other than I will always be able to > beat > > > any of your times if I try. Besides this is hotlapping which doesn't > mean > > > crap! Why don't you act like a Man and get your arse on the trackQuoted text (10 lines)
> of > > > RAS is cheering for you David. <RRRRRBG> really really really really > > really > > > big grin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > "Oh David you are so full of Crap. You say this after you seeQuoted text (32 lines)
> I > > > > > posted > > > > > faster times at the same tracks you just mentioned. and I did it > > without > > > > > having to use aids like you did. Just face it. Your chicken!" > > > > > > > > > > George your imagining things now.... > > > > > > > > > > As i said i have a lap for suzuka and thats the one track i tried > and > > > got > > > > > near the limit on in my week for F12002...the magny was poor, and > the > > > > brazil > > > > > lap well :) slow.... > > > > > > > > > > P.S, your dribbling....i havent seen or saw any of your laps on EA > > when > > > i > > > > > was last there 2months ago....maybe 6weeks....only person i > recognised > > > was > > > > > DonDuham, Tridon and Luke Mclean....and JD... > > > > > > > > > > Its all in your head mate.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >GPL racers at the top now are far better then they were in the old days when
george was trolling about on GPL....
the pace got to hot and he ran off like a baby...Id did see George run some
of the MOG races in in season 2 and 3 LOL......poor old geo looked like a
total muppet....about 9miles off the pace and driving with the consistancy
of a blind monkey....
David :)
Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]...
> After reading this great thread i did a little research on you George :)
>
> It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits.
>
> Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you and youwere
> the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch.
>
> His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm to savehis
sort
> out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and eventually he
> will relent to your greater ability.
>
> Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revert to a
> different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you,whichever
Quoted text (11 lines)
> ego etched face. > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell's eyes > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best in his > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like the above > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by his words to > you George. > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the 'ammunition' toQuoted text (8 lines)
> takes the spoils :) > > Nice work George.:) > > > Andy > > Lol, no kidding.
John
"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > about hotlapping. > > JasonLol, no kidding.
John
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> On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > about hotlapping. > JasonI have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seen just
about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the same sentance as
any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back in early to
late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc were racing
George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, and what ive
seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone who got
washed up and went elsewhere....
Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the very early stages
of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne back then
there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the flocks of
talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the masses. By
this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. Also the
times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has only been found
in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL is now FAR more
difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang around the
top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had pissed off things
got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i am today then
back them.
Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and many others were
about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, not Geo, as he
never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even have any good
laps in any car bar the eagle..
Good in the old days, nowhere now....
David
Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]...
> After reading this great thread i did a little research on you George :)
>
> It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits.
>
> Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you and youwere
> the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch.
>
> His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm to savehis
sort
> out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and eventually he
> will relent to your greater ability.
>
> Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revert to a
> different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you,whichever
Quoted text (11 lines)
> ego etched face. > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell's eyes > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best in his > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like the above > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by his words to > you George. > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the 'ammunition' toQuoted text (8 lines)
> takes the spoils :) > > Nice work George.:) > > > Andy > >But truth is geo, just as GPL was reaching its peak, youd shot your bolt
mate..
Sorry dude, i dont rate you, no matter what old records you throw up from
the old days when a few blokes were online, the online and GPL thing was its
at its peak in 2001 sadly you missed it...and its the drivers from this
period that dominate now...
As i said before I saw you come back drives in MOG and they were awful, you
didnt deserve a slot on the grid, you looked as bad as Moses last time i saw
him attempt to drive, another one who was fast but shot his bolt before GPL
had feldged to the peak....
Dont give me rusty bullshit, I came back from a 5month break this year and
got within 0.2 of my PBs within 10laps....
Your a has been Geo...once the cooker got to hot, you flew off man....
David
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> David David David... You just don't learn. You ran GPL a full 2 years
> after I gave up on it. My God man I hope you would be faster by now! if
> you want to make a comparison then you check Gregors laps at that timewhen
> I ran then you check them now. you will see a big diff as people do keep
> learning. See I was still using the orig rear gear ratio's also. Theywere
> just changing to 60/30 when I quit. If I was still running GPL I guarantee
> that you would be nothing but behind in my mirrors if you were that lucky.
>
> And for your information you jerk it is consistency that wins notfastlaps!
> That's is the real reason you are chicken to race with me. I don't have to
> worry about consistency I have won 7 championships over the years. withthe
> last one being the first MOG league championship with 3 races to go.
> http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html See the name on top you ass!Then
> I semi retired from GPL didn't realize it right away but the drive to run
> it was gone. Gregor even invited me to run on his team and I kinda lethim
> down by not showing up. I am very sorry about that but I did looseinterest
> in Sim Racing at that time.
>
> BUT if you will guarantee that you will shut your mouth if I beat yourtime
> at the Ring then I will be very tempted to dig out the GPL CD. You wouldbe
> toast!
>
> Here is a link of some of my times back in summer of 99.
> http://home.snafu.de/xoph/hlea5gs.html I think you will see that these are
> some of the times on my GPL Rank. That GPL Rank you are referring to was
> resent in in later as the first was deleted cause I didn't have a replayto
> back up a 1:23 at Monaco. Yeah I was the first to run 1:23's asshole! I
> was the first to run 104's at the glen (may be wrong at the Glen, Rick
> Pridden might have beat me to it. memory is not as great as it use to be
> after you turn 40) I was the first to set fast laps at most all of the
> tracks with the exception of the ring, I just never got into lappingthere.
> Prolly cause it was almost 20 mins before you could get your first laptime.
> But will get the CD out if you state you will shut your face in front ofall
> of RAS. Yeah right!
>
> David, You being the jerk that you are run for years after, and think you
> are so great! I was matching laps with Gregor at most all tracks at the
> time! and I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child and awife
> that demanded my time.
>
> You challenged me to go beat the Suzuka time you had. And as you say isthe
> only one you put time into and I DID! Face it you are a Yellow bellied
> chicken that wont race on a track with me. you just go on benchracin my
> friend and the shit will stop the day I see you on the track. BTW afterall
at
is
> > faster than your overall rank....eagles your car isnt it, shame im20secs
> > faster overall in it -74.89.
> >
> > 129 George Sandman United States -57.12 2001-10-28 if i'd have updatedthe
> > on the same day as you last year id have been -78...would have beenfaster
you
a
the
> > > comment. I have noticed if you go directly to the site it shows the
> > actual
> > > time which was 3 hours after you posted. Sorry... Made a mistake andam
> > Man
> > > enough to admit it! :-O
> > > >
> > > > Anyway go and beat my 20th June Suzuka lap, im sure that will makeyou
> > > feel
> > > > better, as thats the only lap ive tried for so far.....im sure if igo
than
with
> > me?
> > > I would gladly kick your arse for all of the slower guys that you have
> > > probably given shit to.
> > >
> > > David, Here is a bigger challenge if you are up to it. Try to postto
> > RAS
> > > something that is positive or helpful to someone for a change. Think
> you
> > > could handle that one? Go David! You can do it David! I am sureall
that
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> of this crap you say don't be surprised if I put you into the wall:-) Well > that is if you can even get near me :-O > > The point is you challenged me to beat your lap and I did and now you > challenge me to go beat another????? What track will you challenge me on > after I beat that one? What will you challenge me on next after that? > > Will await your next trash talk away from the track, cause your Chicken to > run on a Track! > > George Sandman > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > theres a bunch of laps to beat in GPL george, 63 of them....there good > laps, > > i challenge you to to beat my eagle nurburgring lap... > > > > as you say these are cheap arse laps in f12002, as i dont play it....it > does > > make a nice drinks matt though.... > > > > In GPL ive only seen me beat all your laps in ever car at every track so > far > > and you beat a few lame laps ive done in an easy game like F12002... > > > > Im sure this bitterness comes from me being about 20secs faster overallQuoted text (7 lines)
> > gpl and having only played it for 3months in the last year :) > > > > Face it mate ya small fry....:o) > > > > I cant even believe im wasting my time typing... > > > > Your ranked 129th in the world at GPL im No.10.....even my brabham rankQuoted text (12 lines)
> > but i spent the next 5months in the pacific sunning my ass.... > > > > George the only records that ever been broken between us is your laps by > me, > > I have 52 laps faster than you in each chassis, you have two laps faster > > me... > > > > I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > Go beat some times in a decent game....! > > > http://home.clara.net/david.powell4 you might find some setups to helpQuoted text (17 lines)
> > beat some laps here, and some laps to watch how its done.... > > > > Asta Luego! > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > P.S after checking seems your lap at france is faster, shame I haveQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > 10.5, > > > > i did use IVR aid though :) id go back and find another 0.8 > mate...seems > > > > most of my GPL commerades are low 10's or 9's, thats where to be.... > > > > > > > > If you roll the mouse over the name youll get the upload > > date...*hint*.... > > > > > > Well it seems if you do that while in F12002 you get June 25th at > 12:00am > > > which was 3 hours before your post....*hint*.... that's why I madeQuoted text (9 lines)
> > and > > > > find some better setups ill drop another 0.8 or so :o) > > > > > > No Problem! Been there and Done that! 1:32.708 beats your 1:32.978 > > doesn't > > > it:-) http://f1lap.ea-europe.com/lapup/default.aspx And Again David I > > > didn't use any Aids as you did! > > > > > > That was way too easy David! You gotta give me a harder challengeQuoted text (10 lines)
> > just > > > beating your cheapass laps. But... since you suggested I do that, How > > about > > > you going and beating my 1:17.300 at Monaco... If you can! hehehe > > > > > > David, this is proving nothing....Other than I will always be able to > beat > > > any of your times if I try. Besides this is hotlapping which doesn't > mean > > > crap! Why don't you act like a Man and get your arse on the trackQuoted text (10 lines)
> of > > > RAS is cheering for you David. <RRRRRBG> really really really really > > really > > > big grin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > "Oh David you are so full of Crap. You say this after you seeQuoted text (32 lines)
> I > > > > > posted > > > > > faster times at the same tracks you just mentioned. and I did it > > without > > > > > having to use aids like you did. Just face it. Your chicken!" > > > > > > > > > > George your imagining things now.... > > > > > > > > > > As i said i have a lap for suzuka and thats the one track i tried > and > > > got > > > > > near the limit on in my week for F12002...the magny was poor, and > the > > > > brazil > > > > > lap well :) slow.... > > > > > > > > > > P.S, your dribbling....i havent seen or saw any of your laps on EA > > when > > > i > > > > > was last there 2months ago....maybe 6weeks....only person i > recognised > > > was > > > > > DonDuham, Tridon and Luke Mclean....and JD... > > > > > > > > > > Its all in your head mate.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >David, I guess you are to chicken to come race me so I will have to reload
GPL and come race you :-)
I hear laughter on VROC that you are a Wrecker, Hotlapper and a all around
asshole.
Be ready my friend
George
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> But truth is geo, just as GPL was reaching its peak, youd shot your bolt
> mate..
>
> Sorry dude, i dont rate you, no matter what old records you throw up from
> the old days when a few blokes were online, the online and GPL thing wasits
> at its peak in 2001 sadly you missed it...and its the drivers from this
> period that dominate now...
>
> As i said before I saw you come back drives in MOG and they were awful,you
> didnt deserve a slot on the grid, you looked as bad as Moses last time isaw
> him attempt to drive, another one who was fast but shot his bolt beforeGPL
if
> > you want to make a comparison then you check Gregors laps at that time
> when
> > I ran then you check them now. you will see a big diff as people dokeep
> > learning. See I was still using the orig rear gear ratio's also. They
> were
> > just changing to 60/30 when I quit. If I was still running GPL Iguarantee
> > that you would be nothing but behind in my mirrors if you were thatlucky.
> >
> > And for your information you jerk it is consistency that wins not
> fastlaps!
> > That's is the real reason you are chicken to race with me. I don't haveto
> > worry about consistency I have won 7 championships over the years. with
> the
> > last one being the first MOG league championship with 3 races to go.
> > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html See the name on top you ass!
> Then
> > I semi retired from GPL didn't realize it right away but the drive torun
would
> be
> > toast!
> >
> > Here is a link of some of my times back in summer of 99.
> > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/hlea5gs.html I think you will see that theseare
> > some of the times on my GPL Rank. That GPL Rank you are referring to was
> > resent in in later as the first was deleted cause I didn't have a replay
> to
> > back up a 1:23 at Monaco. Yeah I was the first to run 1:23's asshole!I
you
Well
> > that is if you can even get near me :-O
> >
> > The point is you challenged me to beat your lap and I did and now you
> > challenge me to go beat another????? What track will you challenge meon
> > after I beat that one? What will you challenge me on next after that?
> >
> > Will await your next trash talk away from the track, cause your Chickento
it....it
> > does
> > > make a nice drinks matt though....
> > >
> > > In GPL ive only seen me beat all your laps in ever car at every trackso
> > far
> > > and you beat a few lame laps ive done in an easy game like F12002...
> > >
> > > Im sure this bitterness comes from me being about 20secs fasteroverall
rank
by
> > me,
> > > I have 52 laps faster than you in each chassis, you have two lapsfaster
have
> a
> > > > 10.5,
> > > > > i did use IVR aid though :) id go back and find another 0.8
> > mate...seems
> > > > > most of my GPL commerades are low 10's or 9's, thats where tobe....
and
i
I
> > > > didn't use any Aids as you did!
> > > >
> > > > That was way too easy David! You gotta give me a harder challenge
> than
> > > just
> > > > beating your cheapass laps. But... since you suggested I do that,How
> > > about
> > > > you going and beating my 1:17.300 at Monaco... If you can! hehehe
> > > >
> > > > David, this is proving nothing....Other than I will always be ableto
> > beat
> > > > any of your times if I try. Besides this is hotlapping whichdoesn't
> > mean
> > > > crap! Why don't you act like a Man and get your arse on the track
> with
> > > me?
> > > > I would gladly kick your arse for all of the slower guys that youhave
> > > > probably given shit to.
> > > >
> > > > David, Here is a bigger challenge if you are up to it. Try to post
> to
> > > RAS
> > > > something that is positive or helpful to someone for a change.Think
> > you
> > > > could handle that one? Go David! You can do it David! I am sure
> all
> > of
> > > > RAS is cheering for you David. <RRRRRBG> really really reallyreally
tried
> > and
> > > > got
> > > > > > near the limit on in my week for F12002...the magny was poor,and
> > the
> > > > > brazil
> > > > > > lap well :) slow....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.S, your dribbling....i havent seen or saw any of your laps onEA
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> had feldged to the peak.... > > Dont give me rusty bullshit, I came back from a 5month break this year and > got within 0.2 of my PBs within 10laps.... > > Your a has been Geo...once the cooker got to hot, you flew off man.... > > David > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > David David David... You just don't learn. You ran GPL a full 2 years > > after I gave up on it. My God man I hope you would be faster by now!Quoted text (9 lines)
> > it was gone. Gregor even invited me to run on his team and I kinda let > him > > down by not showing up. I am very sorry about that but I did loose > interest > > in Sim Racing at that time. > > > > BUT if you will guarantee that you will shut your mouth if I beat your > time > > at the Ring then I will be very tempted to dig out the GPL CD. YouQuoted text (12 lines)
> > was the first to run 104's at the glen (may be wrong at the Glen, Rick > > Pridden might have beat me to it. memory is not as great as it use to be > > after you turn 40) I was the first to set fast laps at most all of the > > tracks with the exception of the ring, I just never got into lapping > there. > > Prolly cause it was almost 20 mins before you could get your first lap > time. > > But will get the CD out if you state you will shut your face in front of > all > > of RAS. Yeah right! > > > > David, You being the jerk that you are run for years after, and thinkQuoted text (12 lines)
> > are so great! I was matching laps with Gregor at most all tracks at the > > time! and I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child and a > wife > > that demanded my time. > > > > You challenged me to go beat the Suzuka time you had. And as you say is > the > > only one you put time into and I DID! Face it you are a Yellow bellied > > chicken that wont race on a track with me. you just go on benchracin my > > friend and the shit will stop the day I see you on the track. BTW after > all > > of this crap you say don't be surprised if I put you into the wall:-)Quoted text (11 lines)
> > run on a Track! > > > > George Sandman > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > theres a bunch of laps to beat in GPL george, 63 of them....there good > > laps, > > > i challenge you to to beat my eagle nurburgring lap... > > > > > > as you say these are cheap arse laps in f12002, as i dont playQuoted text (8 lines)
> at > > > gpl and having only played it for 3months in the last year :) > > > > > > Face it mate ya small fry....:o) > > > > > > I cant even believe im wasting my time typing... > > > > > > Your ranked 129th in the world at GPL im No.10.....even my brabhamQuoted text (12 lines)
> is > > > faster than your overall rank....eagles your car isnt it, shame im > 20secs > > > faster overall in it -74.89. > > > > > > 129 George Sandman United States -57.12 2001-10-28 if i'd have updated > the > > > on the same day as you last year id have been -78...would have been > faster > > > but i spent the next 5months in the pacific sunning my ass.... > > > > > > George the only records that ever been broken between us is your lapsQuoted text (25 lines)
> > > me... > > > > > > I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > Go beat some times in a decent game....! > > > > > http://home.clara.net/david.powell4 you might find some setups to help > you > > > beat some laps here, and some laps to watch how its done.... > > > > > > Asta Luego! > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > > P.S after checking seems your lap at france is faster, shame IQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > > > > > > > > If you roll the mouse over the name youll get the upload > > > date...*hint*.... > > > > > > > > Well it seems if you do that while in F12002 you get June 25th at > > 12:00am > > > > which was 3 hours before your post....*hint*.... that's why I made > the > > > > comment. I have noticed if you go directly to the site it shows the > > > actual > > > > time which was 3 hours after you posted. Sorry... Made a mistakeQuoted text (8 lines)
> am > > > Man > > > > enough to admit it! :-O > > > > > > > > > > Anyway go and beat my 20th June Suzuka lap, im sure that will make > you > > > > feel > > > > > better, as thats the only lap ive tried for so far.....im sure ifQuoted text (7 lines)
> go > > > and > > > > > find some better setups ill drop another 0.8 or so :o) > > > > > > > > No Problem! Been there and Done that! 1:32.708 beats your 1:32.978 > > > doesn't > > > > it:-) http://f1lap.ea-europe.com/lapup/default.aspx And Again DavidQuoted text (18 lines)
> > > really > > > > big grin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Oh David you are so full of Crap. You say this after you see > that > > I > > > > > > posted > > > > > > faster times at the same tracks you just mentioned. and I did it > > > without > > > > > > having to use aids like you did. Just face it. Your chicken!" > > > > > > > > > > > > George your imagining things now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > As i said i have a lap for suzuka and thats the one track iQuoted text (17 lines)
> > > when > > > > i > > > > > > was last there 2months ago....maybe 6weeks....only person i > > recognised > > > > was > > > > > > DonDuham, Tridon and Luke Mclean....and JD... > > > > > > > > > > > > Its all in your head mate.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
"George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> David, I guess you are to chicken to come race me so I will have to reload
> GPL and come race you :-)
>(snips)
>
> Be ready my friend
>
> George <anyone got a mp3 file of "Enter Sandman" we could throw under his sig???>
Also it is quite funny that of this http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
list
and I will talk frankly...
Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, has monster
rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of consistancy
with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time to reach
Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I could reach
for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the fastest, but
hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has.
Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, quick reliable
but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.
Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.
U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properly in 2000.
Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.
Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed with what i
saw.
Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate champion, total
domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early
2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every respect
dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.
Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemed to fade
away as the new drivers got online.
Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the speed till
about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuck with GPL
to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.
Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geo failed to
stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadly for me as
with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL played his
cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.
Hannsson - WHO?
Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick, doesnt he
run an F2 league now.
etc etc
It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe only Gabor,
Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the big times on
GPL.
Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip, Marante,
Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, Reinhold,
Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman Furlan,
Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. You have GPL
at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list of respected
drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were virually no
drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of
mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for themselves...But thats
all part of the game...
Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the scene, I
and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to its demise,
GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been hanging around
in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :)
As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than George at
playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition playing the
game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my GPL time
and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geo hasnt
been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of others from
the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest you dont
figure in the equation.
GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it was when i
arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest, so sadly
Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, which by modern
standards as slow as shit...
This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I dont play
F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly hope once
again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed before
there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an impact on GPL
in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing where everyone
has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there top ablilties
and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. GPL in the
early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case its not
always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Top at the
finish of competition you have to been there to progress and make your mark
with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause you won a
season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a game called
GPL is mate, laughable....
If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing wheel to
wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat here argueing
with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for you. Id have
raced with you during that period and know your limits, your proper talents.
I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at GPL when it
came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that while people
were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact remains at the
finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon convesations
unlike all those frequently named ones I list about.
Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not just fast of
the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the interest in it
shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, and lets fact
it theres not much competition over there as with early days of GPL...
Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mate your not
one of them :)
David
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seen just
> about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the same sentanceas
> any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back in earlyto
> late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc wereracing
> George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, and whative
> seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone who got
> washed up and went elsewhere....
>
> Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the very earlystages
> of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne back then
> there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the flocks of
> talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the masses. By
> this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. Also the
> times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has only been found
> in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL is now FARmore
> difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang around the
> top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had pissed offthings
> got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i am todaythen
> back them.
>
>
> Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and many otherswere
> about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, not Geo, as he
> never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even have anygood
above
> > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by his wordsto
John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > David > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on you George :) > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits. > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you and you > were > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm to save > his > > ego etched face. > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell's eyes > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best in his > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like theQuoted text (20 lines)
> > you George. > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the 'ammunition' to > sort > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and eventually he > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revert to a > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you > ,whichever > > takes the spoils :) > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > Andy > > > > > >Quoted text (18 lines)
> Lol, no kidding. > > John > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > about hotlapping. > > > > Jason > >Quoted text (18 lines)
> Lol, no kidding. > > John > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > about hotlapping. > > > > Jason > >lol....within the circles of GPLs driver im well respected as a good racer
and very clean....
Infact this is completely untrue George, and apart from our other arguments
I do find it offensive to be fair. If you ask most top drivers about me,
youll get a picture of a clean fair driver, with good manners in close
racing situations who rarely causes accidents in league situations....
If i dont make friends by talking like an arsehole this in no way reflects
how I drive..
And anyone over at VROC with an opinion based on my racing and driving
etiquette will inform of the same news...
This is a case of you hearing what you want to hear from anyone who will
give it, ask Andi Wilke my most respected Sim racer how many wheel to wheel
races weve had over the last 3years where ever been side by side for laps
passing many times per lap within contact while driving at near WR times....
Your argument is slipping to slanderous bullshit Geo, beware next thing
youll be hauling yourself from the gutter....
David
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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from
and
years
have
> to
> > > worry about consistency I have won 7 championships over the years.with
let
was
> > > resent in in later as the first was deleted cause I didn't have areplay
> > to
> > > back up a 1:23 at Monaco. Yeah I was the first to run 1:23'sasshole!
> I
> > > was the first to run 104's at the glen (may be wrong at the Glen, Rick
> > > Pridden might have beat me to it. memory is not as great as it use tobe
> > > after you turn 40) I was the first to set fast laps at most all of the
> > > tracks with the exception of the ring, I just never got into lapping
> > there.
> > > Prolly cause it was almost 20 mins before you could get your first lap
> > time.
> > > But will get the CD out if you state you will shut your face in frontof
> > all
> > > of RAS. Yeah right!
> > >
> > > David, You being the jerk that you are run for years after, and think
> you
> > > are so great! I was matching laps with Gregor at most all tracks atthe
> > > time! and I never tried all the chassis's as I had a small child anda
> > wife
> > > that demanded my time.
> > >
> > > You challenged me to go beat the Suzuka time you had. And as you sayis
> > the
> > > only one you put time into and I DID! Face it you are a Yellowbellied
> > > chicken that wont race on a track with me. you just go on benchracinmy
> > > friend and the shit will stop the day I see you on the track. BTWafter
that?
> > >
> > > Will await your next trash talk away from the track, cause yourChicken
good
track
updated
> > the
> > > > on the same day as you last year id have been -78...would have been
> > faster
> > > > but i spent the next 5months in the pacific sunning my ass....
> > > >
> > > > George the only records that ever been broken between us is yourlaps
help
made
> > the
> > > > > comment. I have noticed if you go directly to the site it showsthe
make
> > you
> > > > > feel
> > > > > > better, as thats the only lap ive tried for so far.....im sureif
> i
> > go
> > > > and
> > > > > > find some better setups ill drop another 0.8 or so :o)
> > > > >
> > > > > No Problem! Been there and Done that! 1:32.708 beats your1:32.978
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > it:-) http://f1lap.ea-europe.com/lapup/default.aspx And AgainDavid
post
> > to
> > > > RAS
> > > > > something that is positive or helpful to someone for a change.
> Think
> > > you
> > > > > could handle that one? Go David! You can do it David! I amsure
see
> > that
> > > I
> > > > > > > posted
> > > > > > > faster times at the same tracks you just mentioned. and I didit
> > > > without
> > > > > > > having to use aids like you did. Just face it. Yourchicken!"
on
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> David, I guess you are to chicken to come race me so I will have to reload > GPL and come race you :-) > > I hear laughter on VROC that you are a Wrecker, Hotlapper and a all around > asshole. > > Be ready my friend > > George > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > But truth is geo, just as GPL was reaching its peak, youd shot your bolt > > mate.. > > > > Sorry dude, i dont rate you, no matter what old records you throw upQuoted text (14 lines)
> > the old days when a few blokes were online, the online and GPL thing was > its > > at its peak in 2001 sadly you missed it...and its the drivers from this > > period that dominate now... > > > > As i said before I saw you come back drives in MOG and they were awful, > you > > didnt deserve a slot on the grid, you looked as bad as Moses last time i > saw > > him attempt to drive, another one who was fast but shot his bolt before > GPL > > had feldged to the peak.... > > > > Dont give me rusty bullshit, I came back from a 5month break this yearQuoted text (9 lines)
> > got within 0.2 of my PBs within 10laps.... > > > > Your a has been Geo...once the cooker got to hot, you flew off man.... > > > > David > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > David David David... You just don't learn. You ran GPL a full 2Quoted text (16 lines)
> > > after I gave up on it. My God man I hope you would be faster by now! > if > > > you want to make a comparison then you check Gregors laps at that time > > when > > > I ran then you check them now. you will see a big diff as people do > keep > > > learning. See I was still using the orig rear gear ratio's also. They > > were > > > just changing to 60/30 when I quit. If I was still running GPL I > guarantee > > > that you would be nothing but behind in my mirrors if you were that > lucky. > > > > > > And for your information you jerk it is consistency that wins not > > fastlaps! > > > That's is the real reason you are chicken to race with me. I don'tQuoted text (7 lines)
> > the > > > last one being the first MOG league championship with 3 races to go. > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html See the name on top you ass! > > Then > > > I semi retired from GPL didn't realize it right away but the drive to > run > > > it was gone. Gregor even invited me to run on his team and I kindaQuoted text (16 lines)
> > him > > > down by not showing up. I am very sorry about that but I did loose > > interest > > > in Sim Racing at that time. > > > > > > BUT if you will guarantee that you will shut your mouth if I beat your > > time > > > at the Ring then I will be very tempted to dig out the GPL CD. You > would > > be > > > toast! > > > > > > Here is a link of some of my times back in summer of 99. > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/hlea5gs.html I think you will see that these > are > > > some of the times on my GPL Rank. That GPL Rank you are referring toQuoted text (9 lines)
> > all > > > of this crap you say don't be surprised if I put you into the wall:-) > Well > > > that is if you can even get near me :-O > > > > > > The point is you challenged me to beat your lap and I did and now you > > > challenge me to go beat another????? What track will you challenge me > on > > > after I beat that one? What will you challenge me on next afterQuoted text (8 lines)
> to > > > run on a Track! > > > > > > George Sandman > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > theres a bunch of laps to beat in GPL george, 63 of them....thereQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > laps, > > > > i challenge you to to beat my eagle nurburgring lap... > > > > > > > > as you say these are cheap arse laps in f12002, as i dont play > it....it > > > does > > > > make a nice drinks matt though.... > > > > > > > > In GPL ive only seen me beat all your laps in ever car at everyQuoted text (21 lines)
> so > > > far > > > > and you beat a few lame laps ive done in an easy game like F12002... > > > > > > > > Im sure this bitterness comes from me being about 20secs faster > overall > > at > > > > gpl and having only played it for 3months in the last year :) > > > > > > > > Face it mate ya small fry....:o) > > > > > > > > I cant even believe im wasting my time typing... > > > > > > > > Your ranked 129th in the world at GPL im No.10.....even my brabham > rank > > is > > > > faster than your overall rank....eagles your car isnt it, shame im > > 20secs > > > > faster overall in it -74.89. > > > > > > > > 129 George Sandman United States -57.12 2001-10-28 if i'd haveQuoted text (11 lines)
> by > > > me, > > > > I have 52 laps faster than you in each chassis, you have two laps > faster > > > > me... > > > > > > > > I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > Go beat some times in a decent game....! > > > > > > > http://home.clara.net/david.powell4 you might find some setups toQuoted text (32 lines)
> > you > > > > beat some laps here, and some laps to watch how its done.... > > > > > > > > Asta Luego! > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:<[email hidden]>... > > > > > > P.S after checking seems your lap at france is faster, shame I > have > > a > > > > > 10.5, > > > > > > i did use IVR aid though :) id go back and find another 0.8 > > > mate...seems > > > > > > most of my GPL commerades are low 10's or 9's, thats where to > be.... > > > > > > > > > > > > If you roll the mouse over the name youll get the upload > > > > date...*hint*.... > > > > > > > > > > Well it seems if you do that while in F12002 you get June 25th at > > > 12:00am > > > > > which was 3 hours before your post....*hint*.... that's why IQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > > actual > > > > > time which was 3 hours after you posted. Sorry... Made a mistake > and > > am > > > > Man > > > > > enough to admit it! :-O > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway go and beat my 20th June Suzuka lap, im sure that willQuoted text (25 lines)
> I > > > > > didn't use any Aids as you did! > > > > > > > > > > That was way too easy David! You gotta give me a harder challenge > > than > > > > just > > > > > beating your cheapass laps. But... since you suggested I do that, > How > > > > about > > > > > you going and beating my 1:17.300 at Monaco... If you can! hehehe > > > > > > > > > > David, this is proving nothing....Other than I will always be able > to > > > beat > > > > > any of your times if I try. Besides this is hotlapping which > doesn't > > > mean > > > > > crap! Why don't you act like a Man and get your arse on the track > > with > > > > me? > > > > > I would gladly kick your arse for all of the slower guys that you > have > > > > > probably given shit to. > > > > > > > > > > David, Here is a bigger challenge if you are up to it. Try toQuoted text (12 lines)
> > all > > > of > > > > > RAS is cheering for you David. <RRRRRBG> really really really > really > > > > really > > > > > big grin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > "Oh David you are so full of Crap. You say this after youQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > George your imagining things now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As i said i have a lap for suzuka and thats the one track i > tried > > > and > > > > > got > > > > > > > near the limit on in my week for F12002...the magny was poor, > and > > > the > > > > > > brazil > > > > > > > lap well :) slow.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S, your dribbling....i havent seen or saw any of your lapsQuoted text (20 lines)
> EA > > > > when > > > > > i > > > > > > > was last there 2months ago....maybe 6weeks....only person i > > > recognised > > > > > was > > > > > > > DonDuham, Tridon and Luke Mclean....and JD... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its all in your head mate.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching some old has
been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-)
When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back is the only
chance he has of beating me!
George
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Also it is quite funny that of thishttp://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
reliable
i
> saw.
>
> Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate champion,total
to
> stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadly for meas
> with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL played his
> cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.
>
> Hannsson - WHO?
>
> Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick, doesnthe
Marante,
> Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, Reinhold,
> Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman Furlan,
> Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. You haveGPL
> at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list of respected
> drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were virually no
> drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of
> mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for themselves...Butthats
> all part of the game...
>
> Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the scene, I
> and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to its demise,
> GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been hangingaround
> in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :)
>
> As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than George at
> playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition playingthe
sadly
> Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, which bymodern
> standards as slow as shit...
>
> This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I dont play
> F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly hope once
> again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed before
> there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an impact onGPL
> in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing where everyone
> has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there top ablilties
> and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. GPL in the
> early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case its not
> always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Top at the
> finish of competition you have to been there to progress and make yourmark
have
> raced with you during that period and know your limits, your propertalents.
>
> I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at GPL whenit
> came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that while people
> were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact remains at the
> finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or iconconvesations
> unlike all those frequently named ones I list about.
>
> Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not just fast of
> the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the interest in it
> shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, and letsfact
> it theres not much competition over there as with early days of GPL...
>
> Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mate yournot
early
By
> > this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. Also the
> > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has only beenfound
he
:)
> > >
> > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits.
> > >
> > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you andyou
> > were
> > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch.
> > >
> > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm tosave
> > his
> > > ego etched face.
> > >
> > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell'seyes
> > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best inhis
to
> > sort
> > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and eventuallyhe
> > > will relent to your greater ability.
> > >
> > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revert toa
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> list > and I will talk frankly... > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, has monster > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of consistancy > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time to reach > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I could reach > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the fastest, but > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, quickQuoted text (9 lines)
> but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properly in 2000. > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed with whatQuoted text (12 lines)
> domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every respect > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemed to fade > away as the new drivers got online. > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the speed till > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuck with GPL > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geo failedQuoted text (9 lines)
> run an F2 league now. > > etc etc > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe only Gabor, > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the big times on > GPL. > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip,Quoted text (8 lines)
> game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my GPL time > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geo hasnt > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of others from > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest you dont > figure in the equation. > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it was when i > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest, soQuoted text (7 lines)
> with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause you won a > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a game called > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing wheel to > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat here argueing > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for you. IdQuoted text (13 lines)
> one of them :) > > David > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seen just > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the same sentance > as > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back inQuoted text (13 lines)
> to > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc were > racing > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, and what > ive > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone who got > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the very early > stages > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne back then > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the flocks of > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the masses.Quoted text (13 lines)
> > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL is now FAR > more > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang around the > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had pissed off > things > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i am today > then > > back them. > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and many others > were > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, not Geo, asQuoted text (11 lines)
> > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even have any > good > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > David > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on you GeorgeQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like the > above > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by his words > to > > > you George. > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the 'ammunition'Quoted text (54 lines)
> > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you > > ,whichever > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > John > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > Jason > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > John > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > Jason > > > > > >I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :)
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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monster
> > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level ofconsistancy
> > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time to reach
> > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I couldreach
> > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the fastest,but
2000.
> >
> > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.
> >
> > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed withwhat
fade
> > away as the new drivers got online.
> >
> > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the speedtill
> > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuck withGPL
> > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.
> >
> > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geofailed
doesnt
> he
> > run an F2 league now.
> >
> > etc etc
> >
> > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe onlyGabor,
> > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the big timeson
respected
I
> > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to itsdemise,
time
> > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geo hasnt
> > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of othersfrom
play
> > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly hopeonce
> > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed before
> > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an impact on
> GPL
> > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing whereeveryone
> > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there topablilties
> > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. GPL inthe
> > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case its not
> > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Top atthe
> > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and make your
> mark
> > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause you won a
> > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a gamecalled
> > GPL is mate, laughable....
> >
> > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing wheelto
> > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat hereargueing
people
> > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact remains atthe
> > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon
> convesations
> > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about.
> >
> > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not just fastof
> > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the interest init
just
> > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the samesentance
what
then
> > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the flocksof
> > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the masses.
> By
> > > this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. Alsothe
> > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has only been
> found
> > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL is nowFAR
> > more
> > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang aroundthe
as
> he
> > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even haveany
George
words
eventually
> he
> > > > will relent to your greater ability.
> > > >
> > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revertto
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> While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching some old has > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back is the only > chance he has of beating me! > > George > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Also it is quite funny that of this > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > list > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, hasQuoted text (9 lines)
> > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, quick > reliable > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properly inQuoted text (10 lines)
> i > > saw. > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate champion, > total > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every respect > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemed toQuoted text (9 lines)
> to > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadly for me > as > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL played his > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick,Quoted text (9 lines)
> > GPL. > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip, > Marante, > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, Reinhold, > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman Furlan, > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. You have > GPL > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list ofQuoted text (7 lines)
> > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were virually no > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for themselves...But > thats > > all part of the game... > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the scene,Quoted text (8 lines)
> > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been hanging > around > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than George at > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition playing > the > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my GPLQuoted text (11 lines)
> > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest you dont > > figure in the equation. > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it was when i > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest, so > sadly > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, which by > modern > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I dontQuoted text (8 lines)
> > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for you. Id > have > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your proper > talents. > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at GPL when > it > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that whileQuoted text (16 lines)
> > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, and lets > fact > > it theres not much competition over there as with early days of GPL... > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mate your > not > > one of them :) > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seenQuoted text (7 lines)
> > as > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back in > early > > to > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc were > > racing > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, andQuoted text (7 lines)
> > ive > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone who got > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the very early > > stages > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne backQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had pissed off > > things > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i am today > > then > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and many others > > were > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, not Geo,Quoted text (10 lines)
> > good > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > David > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on youQuoted text (23 lines)
> :) > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits. > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you and > you > > > were > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm to > save > > > his > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell's > eyes > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best in > his > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like the > > above > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by hisQuoted text (7 lines)
> > to > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the 'ammunition' > to > > > sort > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you andQuoted text (57 lines)
> a > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you > > > ,whichever > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > >I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to me, and I
know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old has been
thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it....
Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off my
Hyperstim to show you up.
David
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :)
>
> George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching some oldhas
reach
respect
me
> > as
> > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL playedhis
times
> on
> > > GPL.
> > >
> > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip,
> > Marante,
> > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt,Reinhold,
> > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, KlemanFurlan,
> > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. Youhave
> > GPL
> > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list of
> respected
> > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were viruallyno
> > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of
> > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for themselves...But
> > thats
> > > all part of the game...
> > >
> > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on thescene,
at
> > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competitionplaying
> > the
> > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my GPL
> time
> > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geohasnt
> > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of others
> from
> > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest you dont
> > > figure in the equation.
> > >
> > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it was wheni
before
> > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an impacton
not
> > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Top at
> the
> > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and make your
> > mark
> > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause you wona
when
in
> it
> > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, andlets
> > fact
> > > it theres not much competition over there as with early days of GPL...
> > >
> > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mateyour
got
> > > > washed up and went elsewhere....
> > > >
> > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the veryearly
> > > stages
> > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne back
> then
> > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the flocks
> of
> > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to themasses.
off
> > > things
> > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i amtoday
> > > then
> > > > back them.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and manyothers
and
> > you
> > > > were
> > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch.
> > > > >
> > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasmto
in
> > his
> > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al.
> > > > >
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'ammunition'
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> > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back is the only > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > George > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > list > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, has > monster > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of > consistancy > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time toQuoted text (26 lines)
> > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I could > reach > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the fastest, > but > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, quick > > reliable > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properly in > 2000. > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed with > what > > i > > > saw. > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate champion, > > total > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in everyQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemed to > fade > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the speed > till > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuck with > GPL > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geo > failed > > to > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadly forQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick, > doesnt > > he > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe only > Gabor, > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the bigQuoted text (8 lines)
> I > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to its > demise, > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been hanging > > around > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than GeorgeQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest, so > > sadly > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, which by > > modern > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I dont > play > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly hope > once > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departedQuoted text (8 lines)
> > GPL > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing where > everyone > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there top > ablilties > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. GPL in > the > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case itsQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a game > called > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing wheel > to > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat here > argueing > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for you. Id > > have > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your proper > > talents. > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at GPLQuoted text (12 lines)
> > it > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that while > people > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact remains at > the > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon > > convesations > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not just fast > of > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the interestQuoted text (24 lines)
> > not > > > one of them :) > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seen > just > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the same > sentance > > > as > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back in > > early > > > to > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc were > > > racing > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, and > what > > > ive > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone whoQuoted text (11 lines)
> > By > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. Also > the > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has only been > > found > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL is now > FAR > > > more > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang around > the > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had pissedQuoted text (22 lines)
> > > were > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, not Geo, > as > > he > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even have > any > > > good > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on you > George > > :) > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits. > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after youQuoted text (7 lines)
> > save > > > > his > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell's > > eyes > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd bestQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > above > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by his > words > > > to > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have theQuoted text (68 lines)
> > to > > > > sort > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and > eventually > > he > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revert > to > > a > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you > > > > ,whichever > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'd forgotten about Savats entirely - do you have any idea what Savats is
> doing ATM in terms of sim racing? who cares???
Joachim Trensz <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I'd forgotten about Savats entirely - do you have any idea what Savats is > doing ATM in terms of sim racing? > > Achim > > > "George Sandman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Thanks Joachim, Will have to look into that one :-) > > > > BTW I am famous now you know. I made the front page of David PowellsQuoted text (8 lines)
> > page! > > Why does this guy remind me of Savats? > > > > George > > > >Wow can't beleive I read all that :-)
The conclusion I come to is David is all talk without backing it up.
Hotlapping isn't racing.
Grab those balls David and get out on the track and see whatchya got for
George :) Talk is cheap...
We want a recap..lol..
Mitch
<<<<major snippage..>>>>>
To Benchracer Dave,
No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too chicken to
join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin alittle
Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and finish
the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I know its slow
but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting.
At least I am not chicken to come to you!
Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back into it
and you can beat on yer chest.
Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you to join
something and I follow?
Talk on the Track you idiot!
George
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to me, andI
only
fastest,
with
> > what
> > > i
> > > > saw.
> > > >
> > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumatechampion,
with
for
themselves...But
George
dont
> > > > figure in the equation.
> > > >
> > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it waswhen
> i
> > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest,so
> > > sadly
> > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, whichby
> > > modern
> > > > standards as slow as shit...
> > > >
> > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I dont
> > play
> > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearlyhope
in
> > the
> > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case its
> not
> > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Topat
> > the
> > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and makeyour
> > > mark
> > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause youwon
> a
> > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a game
> > called
> > > > GPL is mate, laughable....
> > > >
> > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racingwheel
> > to
> > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat here
> > argueing
> > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for you.Id
at
> > the
> > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon
> > > convesations
> > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not justfast
GPL...
in
> > > early
> > > > to
> > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etcwere
flocks
> > of
> > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the
> masses.
> > > By
> > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere.Also
> > the
> > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has onlybeen
> > > found
> > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL isnow
> > FAR
> > > > more
> > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hangaround
Geo,
> > as
> > > he
> > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt evenhave
Powell's
revert
> > to
> > > a
> > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger thanyou
arguing
arguing
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> know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old has been > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off my > Hyperstim to show you up. > > David > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching some old > has > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back is theQuoted text (20 lines)
> > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > George > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > list > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, has > > monster > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of > > consistancy > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time to > reach > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I could > > reach > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be theQuoted text (15 lines)
> > but > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, quick > > > reliable > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properly in > > 2000. > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressedQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > total > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every > respect > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemed to > > fade > > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the speed > > till > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuckQuoted text (7 lines)
> > GPL > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geo > > failed > > > to > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadlyQuoted text (37 lines)
> me > > > as > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL played > his > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick, > > doesnt > > > he > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe only > > Gabor, > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the big > times > > on > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip, > > > Marante, > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, > Reinhold, > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman > Furlan, > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. You > have > > > GPL > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list of > > respected > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were virually > no > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well forQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > thats > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the > scene, > > I > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to its > > demise, > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been hanging > > > around > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better thanQuoted text (11 lines)
> at > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition > playing > > > the > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my GPL > > time > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geo > hasnt > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of others > > from > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest youQuoted text (11 lines)
> > once > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed > before > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an impact > on > > > GPL > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing where > > everyone > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there top > > ablilties > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. GPLQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > have > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your proper > > > talents. > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at GPL > when > > > it > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that while > > people > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact remainsQuoted text (8 lines)
> > of > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the interest > in > > it > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, and > lets > > > fact > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early days ofQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mate > your > > > not > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seen > > just > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the same > > sentance > > > > as > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL backQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > > racing > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, and > > what > > > > ive > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone who > got > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the very > early > > > > stages > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne back > > then > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived theQuoted text (14 lines)
> > the > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had pissed > off > > > > things > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i am > today > > > > then > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and many > others > > > > were > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, notQuoted text (29 lines)
> > any > > > > good > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on you > > George > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits. > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you > and > > > you > > > > > were > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm > to > > > save > > > > > his > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that inQuoted text (24 lines)
> > > eyes > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best > in > > > his > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like > the > > > > above > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by his > > words > > > > to > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the > 'ammunition' > > > to > > > > > sort > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and > > eventually > > > he > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he mayQuoted text (26 lines)
> > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it'sQuoted text (20 lines)
> > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it'sQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Who says im a hotlapper? ive finished a good 80% of the 20or so full GP's
ive entered...and large percentage of the other 200+league races from the
6-7 leagues ive been running in....
I think your all talk and no knowledge mate! do some homework my friend....
David
Mitch_A <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Wow can't beleive I read all that :-) > > The conclusion I come to is David is all talk without backing it up. > Hotlapping isn't racing. > > Grab those balls David and get out on the track and see whatchya got for > George :) Talk is cheap... > > We want a recap..lol.. > > Mitch > > <<<<major snippage..>>>>> > >David,
I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O
Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set some kind
of records.
You just crack me up.
Get on the track dickhead!
The Sandman is Back!
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> To Benchracer Dave,
>
> No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too chickento
> join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin alittle
> Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya andfinish
> the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I know itsslow
> but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting.
>
> At least I am not chicken to come to you!
>
> Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back intoit
and
> I
> > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old hasbeen
old
could
quick
> > > > reliable
> > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been.
> > > > >
> > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properlyin
to
> > > fade
> > > > > away as the new drivers got online.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find thespeed
played
virually
hanging
GPL
> > > time
> > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geo
> > hasnt
> > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot ofothers
dont
impact
GPL
> in
> > > the
> > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's caseits
game
you.
> Id
> > > > have
> > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, yourproper
> > > > talents.
> > > > >
> > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you atGPL
> > when
> > > > it
> > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and thatwhile
> > > people
> > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but factremains
interest
seen
and
> > > what
> > > > > ive
> > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someonewho
back
pissed
fits.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle afteryou
> > and
> > > > you
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate andsarcasm
best
> > in
> > > > his
> > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried onlike
> > the
> > > > > above
> > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious byhis
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> and you can beat on yer chest. > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you to join > something and I follow? > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > George > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to me,Quoted text (14 lines)
> > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off my > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > David > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching someQuoted text (23 lines)
> > has > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back is the > only > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > list > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, has > > > monster > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of > > > consistancy > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time to > > reach > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything IQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > reach > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the > fastest, > > > but > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times,Quoted text (19 lines)
> > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed > with > > > what > > > > i > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate > champion, > > > > total > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every > > respect > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemedQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > till > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuck > with > > > GPL > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geo > > > failed > > > > to > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadly > for > > me > > > > as > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPLQuoted text (31 lines)
> > his > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick, > > > doesnt > > > > he > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe only > > > Gabor, > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the big > > times > > > on > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip, > > > > Marante, > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, > > Reinhold, > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman > > Furlan, > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. You > > have > > > > GPL > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list of > > > respected > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there wereQuoted text (13 lines)
> > no > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > themselves...But > > > > thats > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the > > scene, > > > I > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to its > > > demise, > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its beenQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > > around > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than > George > > at > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition > > playing > > > > the > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in myQuoted text (17 lines)
> > > from > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest you > dont > > > > > figure in the equation. > > > > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it was > when > > i > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest, > so > > > > sadly > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, which > by > > > > modern > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....IQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > play > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly > hope > > > once > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed > > before > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make anQuoted text (7 lines)
> > on > > > > GPL > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing where > > > everyone > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there top > > > ablilties > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday.Quoted text (11 lines)
> > not > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Top > at > > > the > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and make > your > > > > mark > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause you > won > > a > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was aQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > called > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing > wheel > > > to > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat here > > > argueing > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect forQuoted text (10 lines)
> at > > > the > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon > > > > convesations > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not just > fast > > > of > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems theQuoted text (21 lines)
> > in > > > it > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, and > > lets > > > > fact > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early days of > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mate > > your > > > > not > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I haveQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > just > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the same > > > sentance > > > > > as > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back > in > > > > early > > > > > to > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc > were > > > > > racing > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days,Quoted text (7 lines)
> > got > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the very > > early > > > > > stages > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlneQuoted text (21 lines)
> > > then > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the > flocks > > > of > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the > > masses. > > > > By > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. > Also > > > the > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has only > been > > > > found > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL is > now > > > FAR > > > > > more > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang > around > > > the > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo hadQuoted text (32 lines)
> > off > > > > > things > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i am > > today > > > > > then > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and many > > others > > > > > were > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, not > Geo, > > > as > > > > he > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even > have > > > any > > > > > good > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on you > > > George > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it allQuoted text (9 lines)
> > to > > > > save > > > > > > his > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in > Powell's > > > > eyes > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rdQuoted text (82 lines)
> > > words > > > > > to > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the > > 'ammunition' > > > > to > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and > > > eventually > > > > he > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may > revert > > > to > > > > a > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than > you > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's > arguing > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's > arguing > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Ok then, quit yappin and start racin. That IS the point I was making.
I'm surely not going to waste my time researching your past. What info I've
gotten has come from this thread, in which you spew over and over that your
GPL rank is lower blah blah blah... Meaningless stuff when a guy challenges
you to a race and all you can do is type'n' hide matey...LOL
Go race him like a man. Talk is cheap (and getting cheaper by the line)
"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Who says im a hotlapper? ive finished a good 80% of the 20or so full GP's
> ive entered...and large percentage of the other 200+league races from the
> 6-7 leagues ive been running in....
>
> I think your all talk and no knowledge mate! do some homework myfriend....
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> > David > > Mitch_A <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:v2e39.35729$[email hidden]... > > Wow can't beleive I read all that :-) > > > > The conclusion I come to is David is all talk without backing it up. > > Hotlapping isn't racing. > > > > Grab those balls David and get out on the track and see whatchya got for > > George :) Talk is cheap... > > > > We want a recap..lol.. > > > > Mitch > > > > <<<<major snippage..>>>>> > > > > > >George noone cares mate :)
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> David,
>
> I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O
>
> Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set somekind
alittle
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> > > > monster
> > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of
> > > > consistancy
> > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long timeto
properly
early
> > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every
> > > respect
> > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but thenseemed
stuck
> > with
> > > > GPL
> > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as withGeo
> > > > failed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, thereforsadly
quick,
only
> > > > Gabor,
> > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in thebig
> > > times
> > > > on
> > > > > > GPL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee,Wintrip,
> > > > > Marante,
> > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt,
> > > Reinhold,
> > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman
> > > Furlan,
> > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot.You
its
Geo
> > > hasnt
> > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of
> others
> > > > from
> > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finestyou
> > dont
> > > > > > figure in the equation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that itwas
> > when
> > > i
> > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow thenest,
> > so
> > > > > sadly
> > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps,which
Top
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress andmake
> > your
> > > > > mark
> > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL causeyou
just
and
> > > lets
> > > > > fact
> > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early days of
> > GPL...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadlymate
same
> > > > sentance
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPLback
> > in
> > > > > early
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcinaetc
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I andmany
> > > others
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly,not
you
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> of records. > > You just crack me up. > > Get on the track dickhead! > > The Sandman is Back! > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too chicken > to > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokinQuoted text (9 lines)
> > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and > finish > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I know its > slow > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting backQuoted text (36 lines)
> it > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you to join > > something and I follow? > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > George > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to me, > and > > I > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old has > been > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off my > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > David > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching some > old > > > has > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back isQuoted text (13 lines)
> > only > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > list > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited,Quoted text (17 lines)
> > > reach > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I > could > > > > reach > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the > > fastest, > > > > but > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, > quick > > > > > reliable > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took offQuoted text (15 lines)
> in > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed > > with > > > > what > > > > > i > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate > > champion, > > > > > total > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL onlineQuoted text (8 lines)
> to > > > > fade > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the > speed > > > > till > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer,Quoted text (11 lines)
> > for > > > me > > > > > as > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL > played > > > his > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overlyQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > > doesnt > > > > > he > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybeQuoted text (17 lines)
> > > have > > > > > GPL > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list of > > > > respected > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were > virually > > > no > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > > themselves...But > > > > > thats > > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the > > > scene, > > > > I > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done toQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > > demise, > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been > hanging > > > > > around > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than > > George > > > at > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition > > > playing > > > > > the > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my > GPL > > > > time > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 racesQuoted text (28 lines)
> > by > > > > > modern > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I > dont > > > > play > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly > > hope > > > > once > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed > > > before > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an > impact > > > on > > > > > GPL > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing where > > > > everyone > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there top > > > > ablilties > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. > GPL > > in > > > > the > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case > its > > > not > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out onQuoted text (36 lines)
> > won > > > a > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a > game > > > > called > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing > > wheel > > > > to > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat here > > > > argueing > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for > you. > > Id > > > > > have > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your > proper > > > > > talents. > > > > > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at > GPL > > > when > > > > > it > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that > while > > > > people > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact > remains > > at > > > > the > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon > > > > > convesations > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your notQuoted text (7 lines)
> > fast > > > > of > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the > interest > > > in > > > > it > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out,Quoted text (15 lines)
> > > your > > > > > not > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have > seen > > > > just > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in theQuoted text (12 lines)
> > were > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, > and > > > > what > > > > > > ive > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone > who > > > got > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and theQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > early > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne > back > > > > then > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the > > flocks > > > > of > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the > > > masses. > > > > > By > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. > > Also > > > > the > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit hasQuoted text (11 lines)
> > now > > > > FAR > > > > > > more > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang > > around > > > > the > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had > pissed > > > off > > > > > > things > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where iQuoted text (16 lines)
> > Geo, > > > > as > > > > > he > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even > > have > > > > any > > > > > > good > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research onQuoted text (53 lines)
> > > > George > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all > fits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after > you > > > and > > > > > you > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and > sarcasm > > > to > > > > > save > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in > > Powell's > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd > best > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on > like > > > the > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by > his > > > > words > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > to > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and > > > > eventually > > > > > he > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may > > revert > > > > to > > > > > a > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or youngerQuoted text (66 lines)
> > you > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's > > arguing > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's > > arguing > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
thus spoke "George Sandman":
...> Why does this guy remind me of Savats?
...
now please who�s that?
thx
>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
<snippage>
Your ego has taken control of your body.
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>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
<snippage again>
Hello Derek Smart.
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>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
<another snippage>
The worst here is that you actually think we care here on r.a.s. about that.
Most of us will "Mark this thread as read" after a couple of egoistical
posts from yours. I mean we have better time to spend then reading your
dribble over something we don't care!
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http://home.clara.net/david.powell4/GSrace.html
now be off with you....
David
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
chicken
> > to
> > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin
> alittle
> > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and
> > finish
> > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I knowits
me,
my
some
impressed
every
Kleman
> > > > Furlan,
> > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot.
> You
> > > > have
> > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my listof
> > > > > respected
> > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were
> > virually
> > > > no
> > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high timesof
> > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for
> > > themselves...But
> > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > all part of the game...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got onthe
competition
> > > > playing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and inmy
play....I
> > dont
> > > > > play
> > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. Idearly
> > > hope
> > > > > once
> > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadlydeparted
> > > > before
> > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an
> > impact
> > > > on
> > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playingwhere
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near theretop
> > > > > ablilties
> > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLshayday.
> > GPL
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo'scase
racing
> > > wheel
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sathere
at
of
have
days,
> > and
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > ive
> > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection ofsomeone
onlne
> > back
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrivedthe
> > > flocks
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time tothe
> > > > masses.
> > > > > > By
> > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run offelsewhere.
i
even
after
3rd
> > best
> > > > in
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg etal.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carriedon
> > like
> > > > the
> > > > > > > above
> > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obviousby
may
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> George noone cares mate :) > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > David, > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set some > kind > > of records. > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your tooQuoted text (20 lines)
> > slow > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back > into > > it > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you to join > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > George > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter toQuoted text (7 lines)
> > and > > > I > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old has > > been > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust offQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teachingQuoted text (49 lines)
> > old > > > > has > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back is > the > > > only > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, > has > > > > > monster > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of > > > > > consistancy > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time > to > > > > reach > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I > > could > > > > > reach > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the > > > fastest, > > > > > but > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, > > quick > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > properly > > in > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not overQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > with > > > > > what > > > > > > i > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate > > > champion, > > > > > > total > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online > early > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL inQuoted text (57 lines)
> > > > respect > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then > seemed > > to > > > > > fade > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the > > speed > > > > > till > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, > stuck > > > with > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with > Geo > > > > > failed > > > > > > to > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor > sadly > > > for > > > > me > > > > > > as > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL > > played > > > > his > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly > quick, > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > he > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe > only > > > > > Gabor, > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the > big > > > > times > > > > > on > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, > Wintrip, > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, > > > > Reinhold, > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake,Quoted text (14 lines)
> > > > scene, > > > > > I > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to > its > > > > > demise, > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been > > hanging > > > > > > around > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than > > > George > > > > at > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall inQuoted text (28 lines)
> > GPL > > > > > time > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races > Geo > > > > hasnt > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of > > others > > > > > from > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest > you > > > dont > > > > > > > figure in the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it > was > > > when > > > > i > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the > nest, > > > so > > > > > > sadly > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, > which > > > by > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim IQuoted text (20 lines)
> > its > > > > not > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on > Top > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and > make > > > your > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause > you > > > won > > > > a > > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a > > game > > > > > called > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect forQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > > > argueing > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for > > you. > > > Id > > > > > > have > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your > > proper > > > > > > talents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than youQuoted text (27 lines)
> > GPL > > > > when > > > > > > it > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that > > while > > > > > people > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact > > remains > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not > just > > > fast > > > > > of > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the > > interest > > > > in > > > > > it > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, > and > > > > lets > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early daysQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly > mate > > > > your > > > > > > not > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, IQuoted text (16 lines)
> > seen > > > > > just > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the > same > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL > back > > > in > > > > > > early > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina > etc > > > were > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very earlyQuoted text (9 lines)
> > who > > > > got > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the > very > > > > early > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact itQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > Also > > > > > the > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has > only > > > been > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL > is > > > now > > > > > FAR > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang > > > around > > > > > the > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had > > pissed > > > > off > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be whereQuoted text (16 lines)
> am > > > > today > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and > many > > > > others > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, > not > > > Geo, > > > > > as > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesntQuoted text (20 lines)
> > > have > > > > > any > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on > you > > > > > George > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all > > fits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circleQuoted text (17 lines)
> > you > > > > and > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and > > sarcasm > > > > to > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in > > > Powell's > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now onlyQuoted text (15 lines)
> > his > > > > > words > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and > > > > > eventually > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter heQuoted text (73 lines)
> > > revert > > > > > to > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger > than > > > you > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Well Congrads Dave! you actually showed up.
Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave. I run a total of 8 laps in over 2
years and this guy expects me to run 03's hehe.
Dave won the Glen race I was in. Ran I think 4 laps practice needless to
say not enough to get the feel of the track again. After the start I tried
to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I tagged one
in the right rear. Damaged susp and had to pit. Couple laps later a guy is
sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and he
backs right into my path. Oh well that Sim Racin :-(
So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his. Looking forward to
interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)
Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great? only ran 1:04.38??? geez I
was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty!
George Sandman
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
chicken
> > to
> > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin
> alittle
> > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and
> > finish
> > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I knowits
me,
my
some
impressed
every
Kleman
> > > > Furlan,
> > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot.
> You
> > > > have
> > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my listof
> > > > > respected
> > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were
> > virually
> > > > no
> > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high timesof
> > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for
> > > themselves...But
> > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > all part of the game...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got onthe
competition
> > > > playing
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and inmy
play....I
> > dont
> > > > > play
> > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. Idearly
> > > hope
> > > > > once
> > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadlydeparted
> > > > before
> > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an
> > impact
> > > > on
> > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playingwhere
> > > > > everyone
> > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near theretop
> > > > > ablilties
> > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLshayday.
> > GPL
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo'scase
racing
> > > wheel
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sathere
at
of
have
days,
> > and
> > > > > what
> > > > > > > ive
> > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection ofsomeone
onlne
> > back
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrivedthe
> > > flocks
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time tothe
> > > > masses.
> > > > > > By
> > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run offelsewhere.
i
even
after
3rd
> > best
> > > > in
> > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg etal.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carriedon
> > like
> > > > the
> > > > > > > above
> > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obviousby
may
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> George noone cares mate :) > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > David, > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set some > kind > > of records. > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your tooQuoted text (20 lines)
> > slow > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back > into > > it > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you to join > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > George > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter toQuoted text (7 lines)
> > and > > > I > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old has > > been > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust offQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teachingQuoted text (49 lines)
> > old > > > > has > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back is > the > > > only > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, > has > > > > > monster > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of > > > > > consistancy > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time > to > > > > reach > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I > > could > > > > > reach > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the > > > fastest, > > > > > but > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, > > quick > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > properly > > in > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not overQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > with > > > > > what > > > > > > i > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate > > > champion, > > > > > > total > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online > early > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL inQuoted text (57 lines)
> > > > respect > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then > seemed > > to > > > > > fade > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the > > speed > > > > > till > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, > stuck > > > with > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with > Geo > > > > > failed > > > > > > to > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor > sadly > > > for > > > > me > > > > > > as > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL > > played > > > > his > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly > quick, > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > he > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe > only > > > > > Gabor, > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the > big > > > > times > > > > > on > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, > Wintrip, > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, > > > > Reinhold, > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake,Quoted text (14 lines)
> > > > scene, > > > > > I > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to > its > > > > > demise, > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been > > hanging > > > > > > around > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than > > > George > > > > at > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall inQuoted text (28 lines)
> > GPL > > > > > time > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races > Geo > > > > hasnt > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of > > others > > > > > from > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest > you > > > dont > > > > > > > figure in the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it > was > > > when > > > > i > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the > nest, > > > so > > > > > > sadly > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, > which > > > by > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim IQuoted text (20 lines)
> > its > > > > not > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on > Top > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and > make > > > your > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause > you > > > won > > > > a > > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a > > game > > > > > called > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect forQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > > > argueing > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for > > you. > > > Id > > > > > > have > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your > > proper > > > > > > talents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than youQuoted text (27 lines)
> > GPL > > > > when > > > > > > it > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that > > while > > > > > people > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact > > remains > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not > just > > > fast > > > > > of > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the > > interest > > > > in > > > > > it > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, > and > > > > lets > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early daysQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly > mate > > > > your > > > > > > not > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, IQuoted text (16 lines)
> > seen > > > > > just > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the > same > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL > back > > > in > > > > > > early > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina > etc > > > were > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very earlyQuoted text (9 lines)
> > who > > > > got > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the > very > > > > early > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact itQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > Also > > > > > the > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has > only > > > been > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL > is > > > now > > > > > FAR > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang > > > around > > > > > the > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had > > pissed > > > > off > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be whereQuoted text (16 lines)
> am > > > > today > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and > many > > > > others > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, > not > > > Geo, > > > > > as > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesntQuoted text (20 lines)
> > > have > > > > > any > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on > you > > > > > George > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all > > fits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circleQuoted text (17 lines)
> > you > > > > and > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and > > sarcasm > > > > to > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in > > > Powell's > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now onlyQuoted text (15 lines)
> > his > > > > > words > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and > > > > > eventually > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter heQuoted text (73 lines)
> > > revert > > > > > to > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger > than > > > you > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >hehe you funny guy!
you enjoy that beating on yer chest there guy!
Dont hurt yourself.
Geo
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > > > > > monster
> > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best levelof
> > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a longtime
> > to
> > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anythingI
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> > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake,
> Kleman
> > > > > Furlan,
> > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period iforgot.
> > You
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into mylist
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> > > GPL
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2races
> > Geo
> > > > > hasnt
> > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alotof
> > > others
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at itsfinest
> > you
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> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean,bolcina
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> > you
> > > > > > George
> > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now itall
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> http://home.clara.net/david.powell4/GSrace.html > > now be off with you.... > > David > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > George noone cares mate :) > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > David, > > > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set some > > kind > > > of records. > > > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too > chicken > > > to > > > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin > > alittle > > > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and > > > finish > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I know > its > > > slow > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back > > into > > > it > > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you toQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to > me, > > > and > > > > I > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some oldQuoted text (22 lines)
> > > been > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off > my > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching > some > > > old > > > > > has > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day backQuoted text (14 lines)
> > the > > > > only > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, superQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > could > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the > > > > fastest, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001Quoted text (37 lines)
> > > quick > > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > > properly > > > in > > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over > impressed > > > > with > > > > > > what > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate > > > > champion, > > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online > > early > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in > every > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then > > seemed > > > to > > > > > > fade > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to findQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > speed > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, > > stuck > > > > with > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but asQuoted text (24 lines)
> > Geo > > > > > > failed > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor > > sadly > > > > for > > > > > me > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL > > > played > > > > > his > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly > > quick, > > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeingQuoted text (9 lines)
> > big > > > > > times > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, > > Wintrip, > > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden,Quoted text (17 lines)
> of > > > > > > respected > > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were > > > virually > > > > > no > > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times > of > > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > > > > themselves...But > > > > > > > thats > > > > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on > the > > > > > scene, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it doneQuoted text (8 lines)
> > its > > > > > > demise, > > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been > > > hanging > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us betterQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > > George > > > > > at > > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in > competition > > > > > playing > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL andQuoted text (25 lines)
> > was > > > > when > > > > > i > > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the > > nest, > > > > so > > > > > > > sadly > > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, > > which > > > > by > > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I > play....I > > > dont > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I > dearly > > > > hope > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly > departed > > > > > before > > > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to makeQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > impact > > > > > on > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing > where > > > > > > everyone > > > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there > top > > > > > > ablilties > > > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs > hayday. > > > GPL > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's > case > > > its > > > > > not > > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come outQuoted text (8 lines)
> > Top > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and > > make > > > > your > > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPLQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > game > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for > racing > > > > wheel > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat > here > > > > > > argueing > > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respectQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > you. > > > > Id > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your > > > proper > > > > > > > talents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you > at > > > GPL > > > > > when > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this andQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > while > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact > > > remains > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god orQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not > > just > > > > fast > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the > > > interest > > > > > in > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but driedQuoted text (8 lines)
> > and > > > > > lets > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early days > of > > > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo,Quoted text (21 lines)
> > mate > > > > > your > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I > have > > > seen > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the > > same > > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak ofQuoted text (39 lines)
> > etc > > > > were > > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early > days, > > > and > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > ive > > > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of > someone > > > who > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the > > very > > > > > early > > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it > onlne > > > back > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived > the > > > > flocks > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to > the > > > > > masses. > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off > elsewhere. > > > > Also > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has > > only > > > > been > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart,Quoted text (7 lines)
> > > > around > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had > > > pissed > > > > > off > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to beQuoted text (12 lines)
> i > > am > > > > > today > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and > > many > > > > > others > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rateQuoted text (18 lines)
> > not > > > > Geo, > > > > > > as > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt > even > > > > have > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little researchQuoted text (18 lines)
> > > fits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle > after > > > you > > > > > and > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and > > > sarcasm > > > > > to > > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again thatQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > > Powell's > > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only > 3rd > > > best > > > > > in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried > on > > > like > > > > > the > > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this isQuoted text (11 lines)
> by > > > his > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the > > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship youQuoted text (38 lines)
> > > > > > eventually > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he > may > > > > revert > > > > > > to > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger > > than > > > > you > > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping,Quoted text (21 lines)
> > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping,Quoted text (22 lines)
> > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present your just
an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were the first
laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) and you
were fucking terrible.
As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, as to
me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spending more
time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Id beat
McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers im sure id
beat my chest...
This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest....
David
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
tried
> to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I taggedone
> in the right rear. Damaged susp and had to pit. Couple laps later a guyis
join
has
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commited,
> > has
> > > > > > monster
> > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best levelof
> > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a longtime
> > to
> > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anythingI
times,
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with
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> > only
> > > > > > Gabor,
> > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured inthe
Schmidt,
> > > > > Reinhold,
> > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake,
> Kleman
> > > > > Furlan,
> > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period iforgot.
> > You
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into mylist
to
than
in
> my
> > > GPL
> > > > > > time
> > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2races
> > Geo
> > > > > hasnt
> > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alotof
> > > others
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at itsfinest
> > you
> > > > dont
> > > > > > > > figure in the equation.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 thatit
an
on
cause
> > you
> > > > won
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there wasa
for
that
icon
out,
sadly
GPL
> > back
> > > > in
> > > > > > > early
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean,bolcina
GPL
> > is
> > > > now
> > > > > > FAR
> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used tohang
where
highly,
on
> > you
> > > > > > George
> > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now itall
in
obvious
and
it's
it's
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> Well Congrads Dave! you actually showed up. > > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave. I run a total of 8 laps in over 2 > years and this guy expects me to run 03's hehe. > > Dave won the Glen race I was in. Ran I think 4 laps practice needless to > say not enough to get the feel of the track again. After the start IQuoted text (60 lines)
> sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and he > backs right into my path. Oh well that Sim Racin :-( > > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his. Looking forward to > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-) > > > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great? only ran 1:04.38??? geez I > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty! > > George Sandman > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > George noone cares mate :) > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > David, > > > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set some > > kind > > > of records. > > > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too > chicken > > > to > > > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin > > alittle > > > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya and > > > finish > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I know > its > > > slow > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting back > > into > > > it > > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you toQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matter to > me, > > > and > > > > I > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some oldQuoted text (22 lines)
> > > been > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust off > my > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching > some > > > old > > > > > has > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day backQuoted text (14 lines)
> > the > > > > only > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, superQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > could > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the > > > > fastest, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001Quoted text (37 lines)
> > > quick > > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > > properly > > > in > > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over > impressed > > > > with > > > > > > what > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate > > > > champion, > > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online > > early > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in > every > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then > > seemed > > > to > > > > > > fade > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to findQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > speed > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, > > stuck > > > > with > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but asQuoted text (24 lines)
> > Geo > > > > > > failed > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor > > sadly > > > > for > > > > > me > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL > > > played > > > > > his > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly > > quick, > > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeingQuoted text (9 lines)
> > big > > > > > times > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, > > Wintrip, > > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden,Quoted text (17 lines)
> of > > > > > > respected > > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were > > > virually > > > > > no > > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times > of > > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > > > > themselves...But > > > > > > > thats > > > > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on > the > > > > > scene, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it doneQuoted text (8 lines)
> > its > > > > > > demise, > > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been > > > hanging > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us betterQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > > George > > > > > at > > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in > competition > > > > > playing > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL andQuoted text (25 lines)
> > was > > > > when > > > > > i > > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the > > nest, > > > > so > > > > > > > sadly > > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, > > which > > > > by > > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I > play....I > > > dont > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I > dearly > > > > hope > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly > departed > > > > > before > > > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to makeQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > impact > > > > > on > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing > where > > > > > > everyone > > > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there > top > > > > > > ablilties > > > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs > hayday. > > > GPL > > > > in > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's > case > > > its > > > > > not > > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come outQuoted text (8 lines)
> > Top > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and > > make > > > > your > > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPLQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > game > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for > racing > > > > wheel > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat > here > > > > > > argueing > > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respectQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > you. > > > > Id > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your > > > proper > > > > > > > talents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you > at > > > GPL > > > > > when > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this andQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > while > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact > > > remains > > > > at > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god orQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not > > just > > > > fast > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the > > > interest > > > > > in > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but driedQuoted text (8 lines)
> > and > > > > > lets > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early days > of > > > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo,Quoted text (21 lines)
> > mate > > > > > your > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I > have > > > seen > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the > > same > > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak ofQuoted text (39 lines)
> > etc > > > > were > > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early > days, > > > and > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > ive > > > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of > someone > > > who > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the > > very > > > > > early > > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it > onlne > > > back > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived > the > > > > flocks > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to > the > > > > > masses. > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off > elsewhere. > > > > Also > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has > > only > > > > been > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart,Quoted text (7 lines)
> > > > around > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had > > > pissed > > > > > off > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to beQuoted text (12 lines)
> i > > am > > > > > today > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and > > many > > > > > others > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rateQuoted text (18 lines)
> > not > > > > Geo, > > > > > > as > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt > even > > > > have > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little researchQuoted text (18 lines)
> > > fits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle > after > > > you > > > > > and > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and > > > sarcasm > > > > > to > > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again thatQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > > Powell's > > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only > 3rd > > > best > > > > > in > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried > on > > > like > > > > > the > > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this isQuoted text (11 lines)
> by > > > his > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the > > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship youQuoted text (38 lines)
> > > > > > eventually > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he > may > > > > revert > > > > > > to > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger > > than > > > > you > > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping,Quoted text (21 lines)
> > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping,Quoted text (22 lines)
> > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Im agruing with Geo, he replies hense he is listening :) you keep coming
back here after youve marked as read cause your curious....
Dont come back then :) this is mine and Georges stag fighting thread....you
come here by free will....this arguement has been running for 2weeks and
still your reading and commenting, your making the choice to read here, so
your making the decision to read and waste your time, not me....
If you dont want to read this thread, dont bloody read it :)
David
ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:hNe39.175$[email hidden]...
> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
>
> <another snippage>
>
> The worst here is that you actually think we care here on r.a.s. aboutthat.
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> Most of us will "Mark this thread as read" after a couple of egoistical > posts from yours. I mean we have better time to spend then reading your > dribble over something we don't care! > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >Geez dave only took me 4 more laps to get into the 04's Give me a day!
well I ran 12 laps in 2 years and ran 1:04.9 and you ran 17 laps in one
month and ran 1:04.38 hmmm
yeah your good!
George
Not going away David, I just got Back!
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present yourjust
> an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were the first
> laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) andyou
> were fucking terrible.
>
> As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, as to
> me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spendingmore
> time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Idbeat
> McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers im sureid
to
> > say not enough to get the feel of the track again. After the start I
> tried
> > to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I tagged
> one
> > in the right rear. Damaged susp and had to pit. Couple laps later aguy
> is
> > sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and he
> > backs right into my path. Oh well that Sim Racin :-(
> >
> > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his. Looking forwardto
> > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)
> >
> >
> > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great? only ran 1:04.38??? geezI
some
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> > > > finish
> > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! Iknow
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> I
> > > > could
> > > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not bethe
consumate
> > > > > champion,
> > > > > > > > total
> > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPLonline
racer,
therefor
> > > sadly
> > > > > for
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture ofGPL
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> > > > virually
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the hightimes
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> > the
> > > > > > scene,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw itdone
> to
> > > its
> > > > > > > demise,
> > > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then itsbeen
the
> > > nest,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > > sadly
> > > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of quallaps,
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> > > Top
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progressand
was
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> > > > proper
> > > > > > > > talents.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better thanyou
fact
not
> > > just
> > > > > fast
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seemsthe
days
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> > the
> > > > > flocks
> > > > > > > of
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> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hateand
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> > 3rd
> > > > best
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberget
> > al.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all hadcarried
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> > may
> > > > > revert
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you oryounger
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> beat my chest... > > This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest.... > > David > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well Congrads Dave! you actually showed up. > > > > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave. I run a total of 8 laps in over 2 > > years and this guy expects me to run 03's hehe. > > > > Dave won the Glen race I was in. Ran I think 4 laps practice needlessQuoted text (18 lines)
> > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty! > > > > George Sandman > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > George noone cares mate :) > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > David, > > > > > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and setQuoted text (20 lines)
> > > kind > > > > of records. > > > > > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too > > chicken > > > > to > > > > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin > > > alittle > > > > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at KyaQuoted text (7 lines)
> > its > > > > slow > > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am gettingQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > into > > > > it > > > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you to > join > > > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matterQuoted text (9 lines)
> > me, > > > > and > > > > > I > > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old > has > > > > been > > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dustQuoted text (44 lines)
> > my > > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching > > some > > > > old > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back > is > > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super > commited, > > > has > > > > > > > monster > > > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level > of > > > > > > > consistancy > > > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long > time > > > to > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excelsQuoted text (27 lines)
> > > > > fastest, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 > times, > > > > quick > > > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > > > properly > > > > in > > > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over > > impressed > > > > > with > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was theQuoted text (17 lines)
> > > early > > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in > > every > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then > > > seemed > > > > to > > > > > > > fade > > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find > the > > > > speed > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, goodQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > stuck > > > > > with > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as > with > > > Geo > > > > > > > failed > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak,Quoted text (7 lines)
> > > > played > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, notQuoted text (37 lines)
> > > quick, > > > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing > maybe > > > only > > > > > > > Gabor, > > > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in > the > > > big > > > > > > times > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, > > > Wintrip, > > > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, > Schmidt, > > > > > > Reinhold, > > > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, > > Kleman > > > > > > Furlan, > > > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i > forgot. > > > You > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my > list > > of > > > > > > > respected > > > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL thereQuoted text (7 lines)
> > of > > > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > > > > > themselves...But > > > > > > > > thats > > > > > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent gotQuoted text (37 lines)
> > > > hanging > > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better > than > > > > > George > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in > > competition > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and > in > > my > > > > GPL > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 > races > > > Geo > > > > > > hasnt > > > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot > of > > > > others > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its > finest > > > you > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > figure in the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that > it > > > was > > > > > when > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flowQuoted text (25 lines)
> > > which > > > > > by > > > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I > > play....I > > > > dont > > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I > > dearly > > > > > hope > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly > > departed > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make > an > > > > impact > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing > > where > > > > > > > everyone > > > > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very nearQuoted text (12 lines)
> > top > > > > > > > ablilties > > > > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs > > hayday. > > > > GPL > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's > > case > > > > its > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to comeQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > make > > > > > your > > > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL > cause > > > you > > > > > won > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered thereQuoted text (10 lines)
> a > > > > game > > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for > > racing > > > > > wheel > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt beQuoted text (8 lines)
> > here > > > > > > > argueing > > > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect > for > > > > you. > > > > > Id > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits,Quoted text (9 lines)
> > at > > > > GPL > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and > that > > > > while > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, butQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > > remains > > > > > at > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or > icon > > > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me yourQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > > interest > > > > > > in > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried > out, > > > and > > > > > > lets > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with earlyQuoted text (22 lines)
> > of > > > > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, > sadly > > > mate > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I > > have > > > > seen > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo inQuoted text (26 lines)
> > > same > > > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of > GPL > > > back > > > > > in > > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, > bolcina > > > etc > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early > > days, > > > > and > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > ive > > > > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of > > someone > > > > who > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 andQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > very > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it > > onlne > > > > back > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when IQuoted text (8 lines)
> > the > > > > > > masses. > > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off > > elsewhere. > > > > > Also > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limitQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > only > > > > > been > > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, > GPL > > > is > > > > > now > > > > > > > FAR > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to > hang > > > > > around > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geoQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > > pissed > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be > where > > i > > > am > > > > > > today > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily IQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > many > > > > > > others > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate > highly, > > > not > > > > > Geo, > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, andQuoted text (13 lines)
> > even > > > > > have > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a littleQuoted text (16 lines)
> on > > > you > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it > all > > > > fits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle > > after > > > > you > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving toQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > > sarcasm > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that > in > > > > > Powell's > > > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is nowQuoted text (13 lines)
> > on > > > > like > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is > obvious > > by > > > > his > > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George haveQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you > and > > > > > > > eventually > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matterQuoted text (75 lines)
> > > than > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > it's > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > it's > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Welcome back Geo...
Im sure youll find it boring as hell thesedays, noone plays now apart from
noobs....Even SRM conked out last week as they couldnt fill a server...
I wouldnt bother personally....I do a race a month to release im bored of it
and resign my PC back to a desk, which is exactly what ill do now again for
another month...
Cy in RL
Asta Luego!
David
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
first
> > laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) and
> you
> > were fucking terrible.
> >
> > As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, asto
> > me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spending
> more
> > time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Id
> beat
> > McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers imsure
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> > one
> > > in the right rear. Damaged susp and had to pit. Couple laps later a
> guy
> > is
> > > sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him andhe
> > > backs right into my path. Oh well that Sim Racin :-(
> > >
> > > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his. Lookingforward
> to
> > > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great? only ran 1:04.38???geez
strokin
to
matter
> to
> > > me,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up someold
message
> > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]...
> > > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC sayingteaching
> > > some
> > > > > old
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first dayback
level
> > of
> > > > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me along
has.
in
> > > every
> > > > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, butthen
> > > > seemed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > fade
> > > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while tofind
as
in
Mee,
got
better
and
alot
that
I
make
> > an
> > > > > impact
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a levelplaying
Geo's
for
respect
or
dried
I
of
early
it
time
Stewart,
> > GPL
> > > > is
> > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > FAR
> > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I usedto
it
> > all
> > > > > fits.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' driverscircle
that
Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg
you
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> Geez dave only took me 4 more laps to get into the 04's Give me a day! > > well I ran 12 laps in 2 years and ran 1:04.9 and you ran 17 laps in one > month and ran 1:04.38 hmmm > > yeah your good! > > George > > Not going away David, I just got Back! > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present your > just > > an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were theQuoted text (15 lines)
> id > > beat my chest... > > > > This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest.... > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Well Congrads Dave! you actually showed up. > > > > > > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave. I run a total of 8 laps in overQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > years and this guy expects me to run 03's hehe. > > > > > > Dave won the Glen race I was in. Ran I think 4 laps practice needless > to > > > say not enough to get the feel of the track again. After the start I > > tried > > > to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and IQuoted text (38 lines)
> I > > > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty! > > > > > > George Sandman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > George noone cares mate :) > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > David, > > > > > > > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > > > > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set > some > > > > kind > > > > > of records. > > > > > > > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > > > > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > > > > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too > > > chicken > > > > > to > > > > > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what?Quoted text (19 lines)
> > > > alittle > > > > > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya > and > > > > > finish > > > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I > know > > > its > > > > > slow > > > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting > back > > > > into > > > > > it > > > > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for youQuoted text (10 lines)
> > join > > > > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those thatQuoted text (16 lines)
> > has > > > > > been > > > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust > off > > > my > > > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote inQuoted text (19 lines)
> > is > > > > the > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super > > commited, > > > > has > > > > > > > > monster > > > > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the bestQuoted text (13 lines)
> > time > > > > to > > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels > anything > > I > > > > > could > > > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be > the > > > > > > fastest, > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything heQuoted text (31 lines)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 > > times, > > > > > quick > > > > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > > > > properly > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over > > > impressed > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the > consumate > > > > > > champion, > > > > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL > online > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPLQuoted text (11 lines)
> > the > > > > > speed > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good > racer, > > > > stuck > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, butQuoted text (32 lines)
> > with > > > > Geo > > > > > > > > failed > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, > therefor > > > > sadly > > > > > > for > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of > GPL > > > > > played > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not > overly > > > > quick, > > > > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing > > maybe > > > > only > > > > > > > > Gabor, > > > > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featuredQuoted text (7 lines)
> > the > > > > big > > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal,Quoted text (30 lines)
> > > > Wintrip, > > > > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, > > Schmidt, > > > > > > > Reinhold, > > > > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, > > > Kleman > > > > > > > Furlan, > > > > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i > > forgot. > > > > You > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my > > list > > > of > > > > > > > > respected > > > > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there > were > > > > > virually > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high > times > > > of > > > > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > > > > > > themselves...But > > > > > > > > > thats > > > > > > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talentQuoted text (16 lines)
> on > > > the > > > > > > > scene, > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it > done > > to > > > > its > > > > > > > > demise, > > > > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its > been > > > > > hanging > > > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes usQuoted text (8 lines)
> > than > > > > > > George > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in > > > competition > > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPLQuoted text (9 lines)
> > in > > > my > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 > > races > > > > Geo > > > > > > > hasnt > > > > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prollyQuoted text (10 lines)
> > of > > > > > others > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its > > finest > > > > you > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > figure in the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01Quoted text (21 lines)
> > it > > > > was > > > > > > when > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow > the > > > > nest, > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > sadly > > > > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual > laps, > > > > which > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I > > > play....I > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest.Quoted text (7 lines)
> > > dearly > > > > > > hope > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly > > > departed > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time toQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > where > > > > > > > > everyone > > > > > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near > there > > > top > > > > > > > > ablilties > > > > > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs > > > hayday. > > > > > GPL > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as inQuoted text (27 lines)
> > > case > > > > > its > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come > out > > on > > > > Top > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress > and > > > > make > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL > > cause > > > > you > > > > > > won > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there > was > > a > > > > > game > > > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respectQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > racing > > > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be > sat > > > here > > > > > > > > argueing > > > > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id haveQuoted text (25 lines)
> > for > > > > > you. > > > > > > Id > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, > your > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > talents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than > you > > > at > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and > > that > > > > > while > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but > fact > > > > > remains > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL godQuoted text (15 lines)
> > icon > > > > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your > not > > > > just > > > > > > fast > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems > the > > > > > interest > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all butQuoted text (24 lines)
> > out, > > > > and > > > > > > > lets > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early > days > > > of > > > > > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, > > sadly > > > > mate > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew,Quoted text (9 lines)
> > > have > > > > > seen > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in > the > > > > same > > > > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peakQuoted text (11 lines)
> > GPL > > > > back > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, > > bolcina > > > > etc > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the veryQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > days, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > ive > > > > > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of > > > someone > > > > > who > > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and > the > > > > very > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets factQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > onlne > > > > > back > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I > arrived > > > the > > > > > > flocks > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up bigQuoted text (14 lines)
> to > > > the > > > > > > > masses. > > > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off > > > elsewhere. > > > > > > Also > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit > has > > > > only > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards likeQuoted text (50 lines)
> > hang > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo > had > > > > > pissed > > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be > > where > > > i > > > > am > > > > > > > today > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I > and > > > > many > > > > > > > others > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate > > highly, > > > > not > > > > > > Geo, > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and > doesnt > > > even > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little > research > > on > > > > you > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so nowQuoted text (17 lines)
> > > after > > > > > you > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to > catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate > and > > > > > sarcasm > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread againQuoted text (10 lines)
> > in > > > > > > Powell's > > > > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now > only > > > 3rd > > > > > best > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise withQuoted text (23 lines)
> et > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had > carried > > > on > > > > > like > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is > > obvious > > > by > > > > > his > > > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have > the > > > > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worshipQuoted text (90 lines)
> > and > > > > > > > > eventually > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter > he > > > may > > > > > > revert > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or > younger > > > > than > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > > it's > > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > > it's > > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Also this thread now appears to have dropped to a level of slap and tickle
playground childs banter thats below the standard of whats required for a
fun and bloody deathmatch, its more turning move like a gay boys cat
fight...
The old clutching at straws phrase fits this bill....
On that note I shall refrain from lowering my myself to the level George is
comfortable with ..
P.S VROC is mainly used as a portal for playing Operation Flashpoint
thesedays, you got a copy? i'd love to stick my M16 up your ......
David
George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
first
> > laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) and
> you
> > were fucking terrible.
> >
> > As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, asto
> > me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spending
> more
> > time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Id
> beat
> > McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers imsure
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> > one
> > > in the right rear. Damaged susp and had to pit. Couple laps later a
> guy
> > is
> > > sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him andhe
> > > backs right into my path. Oh well that Sim Racin :-(
> > >
> > > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his. Lookingforward
> to
> > > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great? only ran 1:04.38???geez
strokin
to
matter
> to
> > > me,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up someold
message
> > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]...
> > > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC sayingteaching
> > > some
> > > > > old
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first dayback
level
> > of
> > > > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me along
has.
in
> > > every
> > > > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, butthen
> > > > seemed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > fade
> > > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while tofind
as
in
Mee,
got
better
and
alot
that
I
make
> > an
> > > > > impact
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a levelplaying
Geo's
for
respect
or
dried
I
of
early
it
time
Stewart,
> > GPL
> > > > is
> > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > FAR
> > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I usedto
it
> > all
> > > > > fits.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' driverscircle
that
Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg
you
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> Geez dave only took me 4 more laps to get into the 04's Give me a day! > > well I ran 12 laps in 2 years and ran 1:04.9 and you ran 17 laps in one > month and ran 1:04.38 hmmm > > yeah your good! > > George > > Not going away David, I just got Back! > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present your > just > > an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were theQuoted text (15 lines)
> id > > beat my chest... > > > > This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest.... > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Well Congrads Dave! you actually showed up. > > > > > > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave. I run a total of 8 laps in overQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > years and this guy expects me to run 03's hehe. > > > > > > Dave won the Glen race I was in. Ran I think 4 laps practice needless > to > > > say not enough to get the feel of the track again. After the start I > > tried > > > to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and IQuoted text (38 lines)
> I > > > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty! > > > > > > George Sandman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > George noone cares mate :) > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > David, > > > > > > > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > > > > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set > some > > > > kind > > > > > of records. > > > > > > > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > > > > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > > > > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too > > > chicken > > > > > to > > > > > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what?Quoted text (19 lines)
> > > > alittle > > > > > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya > and > > > > > finish > > > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I > know > > > its > > > > > slow > > > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting > back > > > > into > > > > > it > > > > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for youQuoted text (10 lines)
> > join > > > > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those thatQuoted text (16 lines)
> > has > > > > > been > > > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust > off > > > my > > > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote inQuoted text (19 lines)
> > is > > > > the > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super > > commited, > > > > has > > > > > > > > monster > > > > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the bestQuoted text (13 lines)
> > time > > > > to > > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels > anything > > I > > > > > could > > > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be > the > > > > > > fastest, > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything heQuoted text (31 lines)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 > > times, > > > > > quick > > > > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > > > > properly > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over > > > impressed > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the > consumate > > > > > > champion, > > > > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL > online > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPLQuoted text (11 lines)
> > the > > > > > speed > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good > racer, > > > > stuck > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, butQuoted text (32 lines)
> > with > > > > Geo > > > > > > > > failed > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, > therefor > > > > sadly > > > > > > for > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of > GPL > > > > > played > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not > overly > > > > quick, > > > > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing > > maybe > > > > only > > > > > > > > Gabor, > > > > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featuredQuoted text (7 lines)
> > the > > > > big > > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal,Quoted text (30 lines)
> > > > Wintrip, > > > > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, > > Schmidt, > > > > > > > Reinhold, > > > > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, > > > Kleman > > > > > > > Furlan, > > > > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i > > forgot. > > > > You > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my > > list > > > of > > > > > > > > respected > > > > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there > were > > > > > virually > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high > times > > > of > > > > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > > > > > > themselves...But > > > > > > > > > thats > > > > > > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talentQuoted text (16 lines)
> on > > > the > > > > > > > scene, > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it > done > > to > > > > its > > > > > > > > demise, > > > > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its > been > > > > > hanging > > > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes usQuoted text (8 lines)
> > than > > > > > > George > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in > > > competition > > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPLQuoted text (9 lines)
> > in > > > my > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 > > races > > > > Geo > > > > > > > hasnt > > > > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prollyQuoted text (10 lines)
> > of > > > > > others > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its > > finest > > > > you > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > figure in the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01Quoted text (21 lines)
> > it > > > > was > > > > > > when > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow > the > > > > nest, > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > sadly > > > > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual > laps, > > > > which > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I > > > play....I > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest.Quoted text (7 lines)
> > > dearly > > > > > > hope > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly > > > departed > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time toQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > where > > > > > > > > everyone > > > > > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near > there > > > top > > > > > > > > ablilties > > > > > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs > > > hayday. > > > > > GPL > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as inQuoted text (27 lines)
> > > case > > > > > its > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come > out > > on > > > > Top > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress > and > > > > make > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL > > cause > > > > you > > > > > > won > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there > was > > a > > > > > game > > > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respectQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > racing > > > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be > sat > > > here > > > > > > > > argueing > > > > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id haveQuoted text (25 lines)
> > for > > > > > you. > > > > > > Id > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, > your > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > talents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than > you > > > at > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and > > that > > > > > while > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but > fact > > > > > remains > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL godQuoted text (15 lines)
> > icon > > > > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your > not > > > > just > > > > > > fast > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems > the > > > > > interest > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all butQuoted text (24 lines)
> > out, > > > > and > > > > > > > lets > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early > days > > > of > > > > > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, > > sadly > > > > mate > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew,Quoted text (9 lines)
> > > have > > > > > seen > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in > the > > > > same > > > > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peakQuoted text (11 lines)
> > GPL > > > > back > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, > > bolcina > > > > etc > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the veryQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > days, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > ive > > > > > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of > > > someone > > > > > who > > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and > the > > > > very > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets factQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > onlne > > > > > back > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I > arrived > > > the > > > > > > flocks > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up bigQuoted text (14 lines)
> to > > > the > > > > > > > masses. > > > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off > > > elsewhere. > > > > > > Also > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit > has > > > > only > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards likeQuoted text (50 lines)
> > hang > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo > had > > > > > pissed > > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be > > where > > > i > > > > am > > > > > > > today > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I > and > > > > many > > > > > > > others > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate > > highly, > > > > not > > > > > > Geo, > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and > doesnt > > > even > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little > research > > on > > > > you > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so nowQuoted text (17 lines)
> > > after > > > > > you > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to > catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate > and > > > > > sarcasm > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread againQuoted text (10 lines)
> > in > > > > > > Powell's > > > > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now > only > > > 3rd > > > > > best > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise withQuoted text (23 lines)
> et > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had > carried > > > on > > > > > like > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is > > obvious > > > by > > > > > his > > > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have > the > > > > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worshipQuoted text (90 lines)
> > and > > > > > > > > eventually > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter > he > > > may > > > > > > revert > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or > younger > > > > than > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > > it's > > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > > it's > > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
[HUUUUUGE MEGASNIP OF POINTLESS STUFF]
David give it a rest, you are coming across as more and more of a madman....
Why are you so obsessed with this ??
Mikkel
ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:9De39.168$[email hidden]...
> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
>
> <snippage>
>
> Your ego has taken control of your body.
ALL YOUR EGO ARE BELONG TO POWELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember I was slagging off Pabsts ideas then George funnily after never
being seen in GPL or RAS for month if not years, appears on the scene like a
prick having smelt pussy and wrote this terade of rubbish...
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Mr. David Powell, Excuse me while I ROFLMAO. ok, I will try to get this out
before I bust a gut. Top .05% of all GPLer's? If you consider the people
that stopped racing GPL over the last few years that percentage would
increase drastically. You are fast now as it seems you have been putting in
some serious Sim Racing over the years, BUT I do remember when you were at
the back of the pack! I would hope after running the Sim so long that you
would be fast by now. And funniest thing of all. You said" Only takes me
10laps to learn a track anyway" hehehe is this the same guy that said "i
played GPL for 6months offline before i came online, and caused problems for
the AI not humans players.." 6 months offline? (hmmm dont know how to
indicate a very confused look :-) The Top Drivers in GPL that I know were on
the track the day they got GPL and were not causing any problems for human
players. You must be very confused... or, is it that you are jealous of Tom?
He happens to be the most Hard Core Realistic Sim Racer I know! I try to be
very realistic but don't even come close to Tom. See we try to lift while
shifting, and Tom (MR. Realistic) uses a clutch for every shift. He uses
right foot braking using the Heel and Toe technique while wearing a helmet,
gloves and driving shoes and strapped in with a full harness. Try that and
we will see how fast you really are. Tom wouldn't think of using a small
diameter wheel or paddle shifters for a Nascar Sim. And the sound and
vibration simulated, Man you are not only deaf but you vibrate for the next
couple hours after getting out of his Simulator. and to top that off his
Gas/Elect bill must be outrageous trying to keep it around 115 degrees
around his simulator (j/k about that one) You must excuse Tom. You see he
isn't going to run and post super fantastic hotlaps because he drives the
Sims as if they were real racecars and there is no way in hell that he is
gonna resort to the style of driving that you use to run fastlaps. Now, as
for running the track backwards. I watched at Sears point (when Tom had set
up his Simulator in the Drivers Lounge) as a line formed of NASA race
drivers wanting to sit in the Sim and run Sears Point backwards, and all I
remember hearing was WOW! Guess what David? I have also watched drivers at
Laguna Seca walk the track, well they actually drove to each corner and got
out. They viewed the track forwards, backwards sideways . they look for
cracks, spots anything for reference for braking points, turn-in points,
exit points, elevation changes and so on. Now maybe not all the veteran
drives do this all the time but I bet most have done it in their earlier
racing days and will do it if driving on a new track. So you go on and keep
knocking Tom for trying to help us with some info from real racing
experiences. David, if you don't like his suggestions then don't try them,
but please let other drivers make up their own minds if they want to try
them. Do you really think it wastes alot of time running a few laps
backwards on a track? Even I can find time in a limited schedule to run a
few laps backwards if I so choose. So David, If you are up to the challange,
I will see you (if you dare, no 6 months this time) on the track the day WRL
comes out and we will see who learns the track faster! :-O George Sandman
where in the heck did I put that flame suit?
UNQUOTE..
Last line is a good one, he came here for this, and hes getting it...hes
quite happy to fight with me, and im happy to entertain him in return...
The flames are still burning but I feel Geos suit is nearly expired, once it
has i shall leave....
David
Mikkel Gram-Hansen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> [HUUUUUGE MEGASNIP OF POINTLESS STUFF]
>
> David give it a rest, you are coming across as more and more of amadman....
> Why are you so obsessed with this ??
>
> Mikkel
>
>
>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> you keep coming back here after youve marked as read cause yourcurious....
Why do you ASSume I've marked this thread as read? Can you read?
> Dont come back then :) this is mine and Georges stag fighting thread
This is MY place, my newsgroup. I can do whatever I want here, it's my
home. Don't piss on my house, or you'll get every bloody people in that
house against you. Oh wait, you've already did. Try to show me 1 single
person that is on your side here. Please slap yourself and come back to
reality, and see that everybody here is against you. Oh wait, we must all
be ignorants that can't face the truth and are alienated by something only
you can see?
> If you dont want to read this thread, dont bloody read it :)
Look, it's bloody obvious you are doing this so that you get some attention.
Or else, you wouldn't be posting this in a public area of the Internet, this
newsgroup. You had the clear intention of having everybody else to read
this, and that's why it's pathetic. You have a lack of self-esteem (you'll
deny that but it's evident).
You are not better, or worse, if you can do faster or slower hotlaps then
another person. Whatever somebody chickened out, stopped racing, started
racing after, started racing before, stopped racing after, stopped racing in
the middle, or whatever, it's not important. There is no official
competition, your life won't be more truly because you can fucking lap a
track of a simulation of a real life motorsport year in Formula One a couple
of fraction of a seconds faster then another person. We are all equal in
the end, no?
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-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
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No matter the actual outcome of the race, at least they did race :} That
shows that racing is what's really important here, not ego size.
Mitch
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> ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9De39.168$[email hidden]... > > >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > > <snippage> > > > > Your ego has taken control of your body. > > ALL YOUR EGO ARE BELONG TO POWELL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >George is reading this and why im here...he posted this fucking thread
addressed to me...wake up
ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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attention.
> Or else, you wouldn't be posting this in a public area of the Internet,this
> newsgroup. You had the clear intention of having everybody else to read
> this, and that's why it's pathetic. You have a lack of self-esteem(you'll
> deny that but it's evident).
>
> You are not better, or worse, if you can do faster or slower hotlaps then
> another person. Whatever somebody chickened out, stopped racing, started
> racing after, started racing before, stopped racing after, stopped racingin
> the middle, or whatever, it's not important. There is no official
> competition, your life won't be more truly because you can fucking lap a
> track of a simulation of a real life motorsport year in Formula One acouple
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> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > you keep coming back here after youve marked as read cause your > curious.... > > Why do you ASSume I've marked this thread as read? Can you read? > > > Dont come back then :) this is mine and Georges stag fighting thread > > > This is MY place, my newsgroup. I can do whatever I want here, it's my > home. Don't piss on my house, or you'll get every bloody people in that > house against you. Oh wait, you've already did. Try to show me 1 single > person that is on your side here. Please slap yourself and come back to > reality, and see that everybody here is against you. Oh wait, we must all > be ignorants that can't face the truth and are alienated by something only > you can see? > > > > If you dont want to read this thread, dont bloody read it :) > > Look, it's bloody obvious you are doing this so that you get someQuoted text (13 lines)
> of fraction of a seconds faster then another person. We are all equal in > the end, no? > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> George is reading this and why im here...he posted this fucking thread
> addressed to me...wake up
So?
Anyway, since you've obviously did not counter-argument anything in my post,
it's because of it's truth.
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-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
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Im not hear to argue with you....am i...
ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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post,
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> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > George is reading this and why im here...he posted this fucking thread > > addressed to me...wake up > > So? > > Anyway, since you've obviously did not counter-argument anything in myQuoted text (12 lines)
> it's because of it's truth. > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >Im not hear to argue with you....am i...
> > George is reading this and why im here...he posted this ***ing thread
> > addressed to me...wake up
> So?
> Anyway, since you've obviously did not counter-argument anything in my post,
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> it's because of it's truth. > -- > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World..."Mitch_A" wrote...
> <snip>
> Go race him like a man. Talk is cheap (and getting cheaper
> by the line)
Yeah, it took a new game to pull him over the mark, but eventually even DGF
stepped up and raced. And I got him last time out. -hehehehehe... I could
get used to collecting Daves.
Jan. ;-)
=---
>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Im not hear to argue with you....am i...
With whom you are to argue with? If only him, then send him via email.
Another time, don't forget this is a public area of the Usenet, and that a
post to a single person doesn't exist. You post to the entire community,
that is the only reason why you would post here.
If you don't see this, then there is something more wrong with you now <G>
:)
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-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...
I post here cause its a newsgroup....If geo had sent me a mail personally in
the first place instead of mailing his dirty laundry here for me to take
home...id be argueing via email now..
Remember I didnt start this particular thread in public, but the main reason
im here to arm wrestle for honours did....
Maybe if this so important, youd like to take a dose of your advice and send
your mails to me personally from now on?:) One rule one and one for another
I see...
David
ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Im not hear to argue with you....am i... > > With whom you are to argue with? If only him, then send him via email. > Another time, don't forget this is a public area of the Usenet, and that a > post to a single person doesn't exist. You post to the entire community, > that is the only reason why you would post here. > > > If you don't see this, then there is something more wrong with you now <G> > :) > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >I am starting to think under asshole in the dictionary there is a pic of
Dave Powell. Sorry dave never heard of you, but I have raced George a few
times in GPL and N4. You are not up to his level no way no how.
Dave
David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present yourjust
> an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were the first
> laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) andyou
> were fucking terrible.
>
> As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, as to
> me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spendingmore
> time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Idbeat
> McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers im sureid
to
> > say not enough to get the feel of the track again. After the start I
> tried
> > to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and I tagged
> one
> > in the right rear. Damaged susp and had to pit. Couple laps later aguy
> is
> > sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him and he
> > backs right into my path. Oh well that Sim Racin :-(
> >
> > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his. Looking forwardto
> > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)
> >
> >
> > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great? only ran 1:04.38??? geezI
some
and
> > > > finish
> > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! Iknow
back
to
off
anything
> I
> > > > could
> > > > > > > reach
> > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not bethe
consumate
> > > > > champion,
> > > > > > > > total
> > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPLonline
racer,
therefor
> > > sadly
> > > > > for
> > > > > > me
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture ofGPL
overly
were
> > > > virually
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the hightimes
on
> > the
> > > > > > scene,
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw itdone
> to
> > > its
> > > > > > > demise,
> > > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then itsbeen
the
> > > nest,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > > sadly
> > > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of quallaps,
there
out
> on
> > > Top
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progressand
was
sat
your
> > > > proper
> > > > > > > > talents.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better thanyou
fact
not
> > > just
> > > > > fast
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seemsthe
days
the
the
arrived
> > the
> > > > > flocks
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big timeto
has
had
and
doesnt
research
catch.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hateand
only
> > 3rd
> > > > best
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberget
> > al.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all hadcarried
the
he
> > may
> > > > > revert
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you oryounger
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> beat my chest... > > This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest.... > > David > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Well Congrads Dave! you actually showed up. > > > > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave. I run a total of 8 laps in over 2 > > years and this guy expects me to run 03's hehe. > > > > Dave won the Glen race I was in. Ran I think 4 laps practice needlessQuoted text (18 lines)
> > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty! > > > > George Sandman > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > George noone cares mate :) > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > David, > > > > > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and setQuoted text (20 lines)
> > > kind > > > > of records. > > > > > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too > > chicken > > > > to > > > > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what? strokin > > > alittle > > > > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at KyaQuoted text (7 lines)
> > its > > > > slow > > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am gettingQuoted text (15 lines)
> > > into > > > > it > > > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for you to > join > > > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those that matterQuoted text (9 lines)
> > me, > > > > and > > > > > I > > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up some old > has > > > > been > > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dustQuoted text (44 lines)
> > my > > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC saying teaching > > some > > > > old > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first day back > is > > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super > commited, > > > has > > > > > > > monster > > > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level > of > > > > > > > consistancy > > > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long > time > > > to > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excelsQuoted text (27 lines)
> > > > > fastest, > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 > times, > > > > quick > > > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > > > properly > > > > in > > > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over > > impressed > > > > > with > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was theQuoted text (17 lines)
> > > early > > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in > > every > > > > > > respect > > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then > > > seemed > > > > to > > > > > > > fade > > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find > the > > > > speed > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, goodQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > stuck > > > > > with > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as > with > > > Geo > > > > > > > failed > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak,Quoted text (7 lines)
> > > > played > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, notQuoted text (37 lines)
> > > quick, > > > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing > maybe > > > only > > > > > > > Gabor, > > > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in > the > > > big > > > > > > times > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, > > > Wintrip, > > > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, > Schmidt, > > > > > > Reinhold, > > > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, > > Kleman > > > > > > Furlan, > > > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i > forgot. > > > You > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my > list > > of > > > > > > > respected > > > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL thereQuoted text (7 lines)
> > of > > > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > > > > > themselves...But > > > > > > > > thats > > > > > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent gotQuoted text (37 lines)
> > > > hanging > > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better > than > > > > > George > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in > > competition > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and > in > > my > > > > GPL > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 > races > > > Geo > > > > > > hasnt > > > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot > of > > > > others > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its > finest > > > you > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > figure in the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that > it > > > was > > > > > when > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flowQuoted text (25 lines)
> > > which > > > > > by > > > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I > > play....I > > > > dont > > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I > > dearly > > > > > hope > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly > > departed > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make > an > > > > impact > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing > > where > > > > > > > everyone > > > > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very nearQuoted text (12 lines)
> > top > > > > > > > ablilties > > > > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs > > hayday. > > > > GPL > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's > > case > > > > its > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to comeQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > make > > > > > your > > > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL > cause > > > you > > > > > won > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered thereQuoted text (10 lines)
> a > > > > game > > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for > > racing > > > > > wheel > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt beQuoted text (8 lines)
> > here > > > > > > > argueing > > > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect > for > > > > you. > > > > > Id > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits,Quoted text (9 lines)
> > at > > > > GPL > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and > that > > > > while > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, butQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > > remains > > > > > at > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or > icon > > > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me yourQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > > interest > > > > > > in > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried > out, > > > and > > > > > > lets > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with earlyQuoted text (22 lines)
> > of > > > > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, > sadly > > > mate > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I > > have > > > > seen > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo inQuoted text (26 lines)
> > > same > > > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of > GPL > > > back > > > > > in > > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, > bolcina > > > etc > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early > > days, > > > > and > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > ive > > > > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of > > someone > > > > who > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 andQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > very > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it > > onlne > > > > back > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when IQuoted text (8 lines)
> > the > > > > > > masses. > > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off > > elsewhere. > > > > > Also > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limitQuoted text (14 lines)
> > > only > > > > > been > > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, > GPL > > > is > > > > > now > > > > > > > FAR > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to > hang > > > > > around > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geoQuoted text (13 lines)
> > > > pissed > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be > where > > i > > > am > > > > > > today > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily IQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > many > > > > > > others > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate > highly, > > > not > > > > > Geo, > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, andQuoted text (13 lines)
> > even > > > > > have > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a littleQuoted text (16 lines)
> on > > > you > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it > all > > > > fits. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle > > after > > > > you > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving toQuoted text (11 lines)
> > > > sarcasm > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that > in > > > > > Powell's > > > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is nowQuoted text (13 lines)
> > on > > > > like > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is > obvious > > by > > > > his > > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George haveQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you > and > > > > > > > eventually > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matterQuoted text (75 lines)
> > > than > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > it's > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > it's > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >If youve never heard of me what was the point of your post? :)
DAVID J ROBINSON <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > laps ive done in a month, i was shit and half pissed from dinner :) and
> you
> > were fucking terrible.
> >
> > As i said before George ive nothing to shout about when beating you, asto
> > me your a just an old GPL player from 3years ago who should be spending
> more
> > time with his kids not playing olympic penis measuring with me....if Id
> beat
> > McLean or Wilke today or anyone on my list of honoured sim racers imsure
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> > one
> > > in the right rear. Damaged susp and had to pit. Couple laps later a
> guy
> > is
> > > sitting in the middle of the track and as I try to go around him andhe
> > > backs right into my path. Oh well that Sim Racin :-(
> > >
> > > So lets see how hard David beats on that chest of his. Lookingforward
> to
> > > interesting stuff on his web page too ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Funny thing is he is suppose to be so great? only ran 1:04.38???geez
strokin
to
matter
> to
> > > me,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > know my dicks bigger than yours, I dont need to whip up someold
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> > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]...
> > > > > > > > > While this jerk is typing he is away in VROC sayingteaching
> > > some
> > > > > old
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > been as lesson at RAS? Daves spellin as usual :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When he should be in here, cause right now my first dayback
level
> > of
> > > > > > > > consistancy
> > > > > > > > > > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me along
has.
in
> > > every
> > > > > > > respect
> > > > > > > > > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, butthen
> > > > seemed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > fade
> > > > > > > > > > away as the new drivers got online.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while tofind
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Mee,
got
better
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I
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> > an
> > > > > impact
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > GPL
> > > > > > > > > > in its finest era will get there chance on a levelplaying
Geo's
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Stewart,
> > GPL
> > > > is
> > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > FAR
> > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I usedto
it
> > all
> > > > > fits.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' driverscircle
that
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> I am starting to think under asshole in the dictionary there is a pic of > Dave Powell. Sorry dave never heard of you, but I have raced George a few > times in GPL and N4. You are not up to his level no way no how. > > > Dave > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > George I wont be commenting on this at all, as to everyone present your > just > > an old has been, whos was alwasys gonna get beaten...Those were theQuoted text (15 lines)
> id > > beat my chest... > > > > This is more like swatting a fly with a shovel...no contest.... > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Well Congrads Dave! you actually showed up. > > > > > > Then you got wome wierd buddies Dave. I run a total of 8 laps in overQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > years and this guy expects me to run 03's hehe. > > > > > > Dave won the Glen race I was in. Ran I think 4 laps practice needless > to > > > say not enough to get the feel of the track again. After the start I > > tried > > > to take it easy going it the carousel and 2 guys bunched up and IQuoted text (38 lines)
> I > > > was running 1:04 flat over 3 years ago. Very strange for the almighty! > > > > > > George Sandman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > George noone cares mate :) > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > David, > > > > > > > > > > I have also been seen moving over to let a faster car by :-O > > > > > > > > > > Shame on me. I guess I am suppose to come back first day and set > some > > > > kind > > > > > of records. > > > > > > > > > > You just crack me up. > > > > > > > > > > Get on the track dickhead! > > > > > > > > > > The Sandman is Back! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > To Benchracer Dave, > > > > > > > > > > > > No that was low 20's and you must have spies out cause your too > > > chicken > > > > > to > > > > > > join in yourself. Been sitting there in VROC doing what?Quoted text (19 lines)
> > > > alittle > > > > > > Dave? Over 2 years off first time on the track run 20's at Kya > and > > > > > finish > > > > > > the race. the run Zand and finish that race, ran some 25's! I > know > > > its > > > > > slow > > > > > > but feels diff driving these tubs that are so slow reacting. > > > > > > > > > > > > At least I am not chicken to come to you! > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you join in now so you can beat me while I am getting > back > > > > into > > > > > it > > > > > > and you can beat on yer chest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Or will you ever race? Guess I will just have to wait for youQuoted text (10 lines)
> > join > > > > > > something and I follow? > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk on the Track you idiot! > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > I have proven all i need to over the years to those thatQuoted text (16 lines)
> > has > > > > > been > > > > > > > thats 3secs of the pace thesedays to prove it.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Save yaself the humilation mate...I cant even be arsed to dust > off > > > my > > > > > > > Hyperstim to show you up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > I hear ya in the 21's at kya impressive :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George Sandman <[email hidden]> wrote inQuoted text (19 lines)
> > is > > > > the > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > > chance he has of beating me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > Also it is quite funny that of this > > > > > > > > > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super > > commited, > > > > has > > > > > > > > monster > > > > > > > > > > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the bestQuoted text (13 lines)
> > time > > > > to > > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > > > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels > anything > > I > > > > > could > > > > > > > > reach > > > > > > > > > > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be > the > > > > > > fastest, > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > hes very technical and offers the sport everything heQuoted text (31 lines)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 > > times, > > > > > quick > > > > > > > > > reliable > > > > > > > > > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off > > > > properly > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 2000. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over > > > impressed > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > saw. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the > consumate > > > > > > champion, > > > > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL > online > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPLQuoted text (11 lines)
> > the > > > > > speed > > > > > > > > till > > > > > > > > > > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good > racer, > > > > stuck > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, butQuoted text (32 lines)
> > with > > > > Geo > > > > > > > > failed > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, > therefor > > > > sadly > > > > > > for > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of > GPL > > > > > played > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not > overly > > > > quick, > > > > > > > > doesnt > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > run an F2 league now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing > > maybe > > > > only > > > > > > > > Gabor, > > > > > > > > > > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featuredQuoted text (7 lines)
> > the > > > > big > > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > GPL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal,Quoted text (30 lines)
> > > > Wintrip, > > > > > > > > > Marante, > > > > > > > > > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, > > Schmidt, > > > > > > > Reinhold, > > > > > > > > > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, > > > Kleman > > > > > > > Furlan, > > > > > > > > > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i > > forgot. > > > > You > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my > > list > > > of > > > > > > > > respected > > > > > > > > > > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there > were > > > > > virually > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high > times > > > of > > > > > > > > > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for > > > > > > themselves...But > > > > > > > > > thats > > > > > > > > > > all part of the game... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talentQuoted text (16 lines)
> on > > > the > > > > > > > scene, > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it > done > > to > > > > its > > > > > > > > demise, > > > > > > > > > > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its > been > > > > > hanging > > > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes usQuoted text (8 lines)
> > than > > > > > > George > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in > > > competition > > > > > > > playing > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPLQuoted text (9 lines)
> > in > > > my > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 > > races > > > > Geo > > > > > > > hasnt > > > > > > > > > > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prollyQuoted text (10 lines)
> > of > > > > > others > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its > > finest > > > > you > > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > > > figure in the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01Quoted text (21 lines)
> > it > > > > was > > > > > > when > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow > the > > > > nest, > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > sadly > > > > > > > > > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual > laps, > > > > which > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > modern > > > > > > > > > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I > > > play....I > > > > > dont > > > > > > > > play > > > > > > > > > > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest.Quoted text (7 lines)
> > > dearly > > > > > > hope > > > > > > > > once > > > > > > > > > > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly > > > departed > > > > > > > before > > > > > > > > > > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time toQuoted text (12 lines)
> > > where > > > > > > > > everyone > > > > > > > > > > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near > there > > > top > > > > > > > > ablilties > > > > > > > > > > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs > > > hayday. > > > > > GPL > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > early days was more about who learns fast, but as inQuoted text (27 lines)
> > > case > > > > > its > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come > out > > on > > > > Top > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > finish of competition you have to been there to progress > and > > > > make > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > mark > > > > > > > > > > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL > > cause > > > > you > > > > > > won > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there > was > > a > > > > > game > > > > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respectQuoted text (8 lines)
> > > racing > > > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be > sat > > > here > > > > > > > > argueing > > > > > > > > > > with you, as id know you were talented and Id haveQuoted text (25 lines)
> > for > > > > > you. > > > > > > Id > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, > your > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > talents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than > you > > > at > > > > > GPL > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and > > that > > > > > while > > > > > > > > people > > > > > > > > > > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but > fact > > > > > remains > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL godQuoted text (15 lines)
> > icon > > > > > > > > > convesations > > > > > > > > > > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your > not > > > > just > > > > > > fast > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems > the > > > > > interest > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > shown by VROC members since its release has all butQuoted text (24 lines)
> > out, > > > > and > > > > > > > lets > > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > > > it theres not much competition over there as with early > days > > > of > > > > > > GPL... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, > > sadly > > > > mate > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > one of them :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew,Quoted text (9 lines)
> > > have > > > > > seen > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in > the > > > > same > > > > > > > > sentance > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peakQuoted text (11 lines)
> > GPL > > > > back > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, > > bolcina > > > > etc > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > racing > > > > > > > > > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the veryQuoted text (16 lines)
> > > days, > > > > > and > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > ive > > > > > > > > > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of > > > someone > > > > > who > > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and > the > > > > very > > > > > > > early > > > > > > > > > > stages > > > > > > > > > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets factQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > onlne > > > > > back > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I > arrived > > > the > > > > > > flocks > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up bigQuoted text (14 lines)
> to > > > the > > > > > > > masses. > > > > > > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > > this George had already packed his bags and run off > > > elsewhere. > > > > > > Also > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit > has > > > > only > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > > > in the last year really even for old cards likeQuoted text (50 lines)
> > hang > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo > had > > > > > pissed > > > > > > > off > > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be > > where > > > i > > > > am > > > > > > > today > > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I > and > > > > many > > > > > > > others > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate > > highly, > > > > not > > > > > > Geo, > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and > doesnt > > > even > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little > research > > on > > > > you > > > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so nowQuoted text (17 lines)
> > > after > > > > > you > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > were > > > > > > > > > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to > catch. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate > and > > > > > sarcasm > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > save > > > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread againQuoted text (10 lines)
> > in > > > > > > Powell's > > > > > > > > > eyes > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now > only > > > 3rd > > > > > best > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes,and likewise withQuoted text (23 lines)
> et > > > al. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had > carried > > > on > > > > > like > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > above > > > > > > > > > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is > > obvious > > > by > > > > > his > > > > > > > > words > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have > the > > > > > > > 'ammunition' > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > sort > > > > > > > > > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worshipQuoted text (90 lines)
> > and > > > > > > > > eventually > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > > will relent to your greater ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter > he > > > may > > > > > > revert > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or > younger > > > > than > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > ,whichever > > > > > > > > > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > > it's > > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, > > it's > > > > > > arguing > > > > > > > > > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I am guessing you are a legend in your own mind Dave.
You make one hell of a first impression.
Dave
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> > times in GPL and N4. You are not up to his level no way no how.
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
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> If youve never heard of me what was the point of your post? :) > > > DAVID J ROBINSON <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:R0i39.190$[email hidden]... > > I am starting to think under asshole in the dictionary there is a pic of > > Dave Powell. Sorry dave never heard of you, but I have raced George a>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> I post here cause its a newsgroup....If geo had sent me a mail personallyin
> the first place instead of mailing his dirty laundry here for me to take
> home...id be argueing via email now..
So basically, you are unable to do things by your oneself, that you are
absolutely stuckup in a matter that you will go with what the other does
("Mommy, he started so I continued"). Your ego is unable to grasp that
concept, unable to act as a sentient entity.
> Maybe if this so important, youd like to take a dose of your advice andsend
> your mails to me personally from now on?:) One rule one and one foranother
> I see...
I'm posting here as a fair warning to anybody reading, so that they don't
mess up our community in this newsgroup like you are currently doing. Don't
you see you have no allies here? That nobody is on your side?
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Maybe i dont need allies:)....
Look Ymenard theres a simple solution to our debate here, you shut up and
ill not post anything to you again here ok....if you post me here...ill post
to you here ok...post me privately ill post to you privately...
I await your reply...
BTW your queens looking exposed, watch out I feel were near the checkmate...
Simple isnt it....
David
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> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> > I post here cause its a newsgroup....If geo had sent me a mailpersonally
Don't
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> in > > the first place instead of mailing his dirty laundry here for me to take > > home...id be argueing via email now.. > > So basically, you are unable to do things by your oneself, that you are > absolutely stuckup in a matter that you will go with what the other does > ("Mommy, he started so I continued"). Your ego is unable to grasp that > concept, unable to act as a sentient entity. > > > > Maybe if this so important, youd like to take a dose of your advice and > send > > your mails to me personally from now on?:) One rule one and one for > another > > I see... > > I'm posting here as a fair warning to anybody reading, so that they don't > mess up our community in this newsgroup like you are currently doing.Quoted text (12 lines)
> you see you have no allies here? That nobody is on your side? > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Maybe i dont need allies:)....
The wrong guy is always the lonely one...
> Look Ymenard theres a simple solution to our debate here, you shut up
Don't tell me to shut up. Again, you put yourself more and more into your
own corner. You won't get any help from others by telling me to shut up.
You show a lack of respect, obviously.
> I await your reply...
The thing you don't know is that I'll continue forever. You won't "win"
against me, because nobody wins. I'm a machine, the �ber-Farnk.
It's still fun that instead of doing normal counter-arguing like everybody
else (me per example as demonstrated here), you simply try to omit the
entire replied message with a set of random "non-sensical" replies.
In article <xY939.46762$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren"
<[email hidden]> writes:
>"EldredP" wrote...
>> I'll even provide a server if there's a 'grudge match'...
>
>Hmmm... depends on whether we can get Kruuse and Bjornstad to come out now
>I've passed them on GPLRank. ;-)
Hey, what *did* happen to Jens? I haven't seen him post in a while, but I've
seen Asbjorn post...
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You not a machine as such, more an animal, one that you feed grass into one
end and shit comes out the other....this at monthly periods is accompanied
by a warm and tasty drink called Milk, im here feeding on your rich produce,
once it expires i'll leave you for another cow....
Is that sensical enough?
One more post sorry guys....
I await your reply with baited breath....
David
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> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Maybe i dont need allies:).... > > The wrong guy is always the lonely one... > > > Look Ymenard theres a simple solution to our debate here, you shut up > > Don't tell me to shut up. Again, you put yourself more and more into your > own corner. You won't get any help from others by telling me to shut up. > You show a lack of respect, obviously. > > > I await your reply... > > The thing you don't know is that I'll continue forever. You won't "win" > against me, because nobody wins. I'm a machine, the �ber-Farnk. > > > It's still fun that instead of doing normal counter-arguing like everybody > else (me per example as demonstrated here), you simply try to omit the > entire replied message with a set of random "non-sensical" replies. > > > > >In article <[email hidden]>, "David Powell"
<[email hidden]> writes:
>Who says im a hotlapper? ive finished a good 80% of the 20or so full GP's
>ive entered...and large percentage of the other 200+league races from the
>6-7 leagues ive been running in....
So have I... :-)
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>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> You not a machine as such, more an animal
Another time "Can you read the words that are coming out of my posts?".
I'm the �ber-Farnk.
> Is that sensical enough?
What you don't know is that you look perfectly sane to me, if that's what
your not trying to achieve.
> I await your reply with baited breath....
LOL! I'll continue forever, it's fun to watch you paint more and more the
floor, while not seeing that you're stuck in a corner.
<snip>
<snip>
You're an alien, Eldred ;-)
Jon Andersen
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> >Who says im a hotlapper? ive finished a good 80% of the 20or so full GP's > >ive entered...and large percentage of the other 200+league races from the > >6-7 leagues ive been running in.... > > So have I... :-) > > EldredAs i said in my previous post your more Uber-Farnking Full of Shit but thats
just my take on it....
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> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > You not a machine as such, more an animal > > Another time "Can you read the words that are coming out of my posts?". > > I'm the �ber-Farnk. > > > Is that sensical enough? > > What you don't know is that you look perfectly sane to me, if that's what > your not trying to achieve. > > > > I await your reply with baited breath.... > > LOL! I'll continue forever, it's fun to watch you paint more and more the > floor, while not seeing that you're stuck in a corner. > > > > > >>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> As i said in my previous post your more Uber-Farnking Full of Shit butthats
> just my take on it....
Well �ber-Farnk's opinion and view of the situation is that you are an
egoistical maniac with a severe lack of self-esteem.
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<really big snip>
General recap to date.
1. George Defends Toms post and points out a few details to David.
2. David calls George a has been.
3. George beats some of Daves F1 2002 laps
4. Dave says go beat my Suzuka lap
5. George Does beat Suzuka lap
6.Dave says F1 2002 is coffee coaster
7. George calls Dave chicken
8. Dave says beat Ring time in GPL
9. George loads GPL cause dave wont race other sim
10. Dave falls for Bait to race George who has GPL on HD for 2 hours in
2+years
11. Dave beats George and beats Chest...Now on with you he says.
12 George runs a few more laps and approaches Daves Race times.
13 Dave says Welcome back Geo...
Im sure youll find it boring as hell thesedays, noone plays now apart from
noobs....Even SRM conked out last week as they couldnt fill a server...
I wouldnt bother personally....I do a race a month to release im bored of it
and resign my PC back to a desk, which is exactly what ill do now again for
another month...
Is there a pattern forming here? Is Dave getting ready to say GPL is a
coffee coaster?
Is he setting it up so if he gets beat it is cause he resigned his PC back
to a desk?
What will his next excuse be?
14 George Thanks David for getting him Back into GPL.
15 to come....Dave will post more crap on his web page.
the saga continues....
"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Mitch_A" wrote...
> > <snip>
> > Go race him like a man. Talk is cheap (and getting cheaper
> > by the line)
>
> Yeah, it took a new game to pull him over the mark, but eventually evenDGF
> stepped up and raced. And I got him last time out. -hehehehehe... I could
> get used to collecting Daves.
>
> Jan. ;-)
Sometimes I let the slower guys by just to keep their spirits up. :-p
It's funny, but I raced George about five years ago in CPR (I'm doubt he
remembers me, but I remember the "Sandman"). We raced on the Zone
occasionally and went back and forth holding the top spot at Case's ladder
for awhile. Can't believe that was almost five years already. Time flies.
David G Fisher
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> and resign my PC back to a desk, which is exactly what ill do now againfor
Lol.
Sometimes you need to set the record straight around here before things get
too out of hand. :-)
David G Fisher
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> <really big snip> > > General recap to date. > > 1. George Defends Toms post and points out a few details to David. > 2. David calls George a has been. > 3. George beats some of Daves F1 2002 laps > 4. Dave says go beat my Suzuka lap > 5. George Does beat Suzuka lap > 6.Dave says F1 2002 is coffee coaster > 7. George calls Dave chicken > 8. Dave says beat Ring time in GPL > 9. George loads GPL cause dave wont race other sim > 10. Dave falls for Bait to race George who has GPL on HD for 2 hours in > 2+years > 11. Dave beats George and beats Chest...Now on with you he says. > 12 George runs a few more laps and approaches Daves Race times. > 13 Dave says Welcome back Geo... > > Im sure youll find it boring as hell thesedays, noone plays now apart from > noobs....Even SRM conked out last week as they couldnt fill a server... > > I wouldnt bother personally....I do a race a month to release im bored ofQuoted text (12 lines)
> another month... > > Is there a pattern forming here? Is Dave getting ready to say GPL is a > coffee coaster? > Is he setting it up so if he gets beat it is cause he resigned his PC back > to a desk? > What will his next excuse be? > > 14 George Thanks David for getting him Back into GPL. > 15 to come....Dave will post more crap on his web page. > > the saga continues....Jens is on a simracing break, hope he will be back soon.
Mikkel
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> In article <xY939.46762$[email hidden]>, "JanVerschueren"
> <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> >"EldredP" wrote...
> >> I'll even provide a server if there's a 'grudge match'...
> >
> >Hmmm... depends on whether we can get Kruuse and Bjornstad to come outnow
> >I've passed them on GPLRank. ;-)
>
> Hey, what *did* happen to Jens? I haven't seen him post in a while, butI've
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> and resign my PC back to a desk, which is exactly what ill do now againfor
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> <really big snip> > > General recap to date. > > 1. George Defends Toms post and points out a few details to David. > 2. David calls George a has been. > 3. George beats some of Daves F1 2002 laps > 4. Dave says go beat my Suzuka lap > 5. George Does beat Suzuka lap > 6.Dave says F1 2002 is coffee coaster > 7. George calls Dave chicken > 8. Dave says beat Ring time in GPL > 9. George loads GPL cause dave wont race other sim > 10. Dave falls for Bait to race George who has GPL on HD for 2 hours in > 2+years > 11. Dave beats George and beats Chest...Now on with you he says. > 12 George runs a few more laps and approaches Daves Race times. > 13 Dave says Welcome back Geo... > > Im sure youll find it boring as hell thesedays, noone plays now apart from > noobs....Even SRM conked out last week as they couldnt fill a server... > > I wouldnt bother personally....I do a race a month to release im bored ofQuoted text (15 lines)
> another month... > > Is there a pattern forming here? Is Dave getting ready to say GPL is a > coffee coaster? > Is he setting it up so if he gets beat it is cause he resigned his PC back > to a desk? > What will his next excuse be? > > 14 George Thanks David for getting him Back into GPL. > 15 to come....Dave will post more crap on his web page. > > the saga continues.... > > >you should get to bed earlier 4.48am! its clouding your judgement...
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> >"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote > > As i said in my previous post your more Uber-Farnking Full of Shit but > thats > > just my take on it.... > > > Well �ber-Farnk's opinion and view of the situation is that you are an > egoistical maniac with a severe lack of self-esteem. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >>"David Powell" <[email hidden]> wrote
> you should get to bed earlier 4.48am! its clouding your judgement...
Hmmm, not everybody lives in the same time zone as yours. My post was sent
just before midnight. You know, just before I go to bed as I work the next
day hmm hmm? You should learn a little about the Usenet and the relative
NNTP posting date versus the real date.
Oh yeah and stop top-posting <ducks> ;)
-- Fran�ois M�nard
-- stupid oleaut32.dll
Sounds a bit geeky, i'll avoid that, next thing i'll be saying I own this
place....
You should learn a little about the Usenet and the relative
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> NNTP posting date versus the real date. > > > > > Oh yeah and stop top-posting <ducks> ;) > > > > -- Fran�ois M�nard > -- stupid oleaut32.dll > >George Sandman wrote:
>
> <really big snip>
>
> General recap to date.
>
> 1. George Defends Toms post and points out a few details to David.
I loved this bit, "points out a few details to David", guess that's one
way of putting it, and I thought the English was the masters of
understatement
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
> <really big snip>
> General recap to date.
> 1. George Defends Toms post and points out a few details to David.
I loved this bit, "points out a few details to David", guess that's one
way of putting it, and I thought the English was the masters of
understatement
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
I love the fact that whoever David is having his 'disagreements ' with,
become a star on his web site...:-))
Andy
your warm :)
Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I love the fact that whoever David is having his 'disagreements ' with, > become a star on his web site...:-)) > > > Andy > >>"Andrew" <[email hidden]> wrote
> I love the fact that whoever David is having his 'disagreements ' with,
> become a star on his web site...:-))
I'm not yet on David's walk of fame ;-)
--
-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...
In every sport or any other activity of a competative nature, skill grows as
time goes by. Look at track&fields. Ppl have been dong track&fields for
centurys, maybe thousands of years. How many WRs were set more than 10-20
years old? Those running more 10-20 years ago, doing WRs: were they no good?
They must be, using the logic you present.
GPL is 4 years old.
How dare you say that those doing close to WR laps 2-4 years ago were no
good? BTW: In your list of respected drivers, several of those left the
scene a while ago. If Mr. Sandman isn't worthy of respect, then I fail to
see how a few of the other drivers you mentioned are worthy of respect.
Although you do not say this explicitly about Roland Ehnstr�m, you are
saying that the heroes of the past left before real talent came along.
Roland left the scene approx 2 years ago. He was never number 1. He is still
ranked 31th. Risto Junnilainen left the scene before I came along. He is
still 34th.
In 4 years, you may have gotten a life, and have quit GPL. By that time, you
probably will not be ranked number 10 at GPLrank. You just may find yourself
outside top 100. By your logic, you must be crap, then. You quit before some
real talent came along.
You being number 10 at GPLrank is a snapshot of history. Mr Sandman had his
snapshot a few years ago. Still, you insist on comparing those snapshots as
if they were taken at the same time. Please do that after you have quit GPL,
too. Then you would find that you are being beaten by some, arrogant kid,
telling you that you were no good, racing before real talent came along.
I remember when Barty Mee came along. He was the laughing stock at Vroc. The
one everybody picked on. He did a few surprisingly fast laps, but was
ridiculed for not being able to complete a race. He had been doing GPL for 6
months. Those ridiculing him had been racing for 2 years. Of course he
crashed out more often than the veterans. He had less seat time. But he had
talent. He was fast, in spite of limited seat time. That's the kind of skill
David Powell refuses to acknowledge in his fight with Mr. Sandman. Mr.
Sandman was fast at an early stage, when very few (including Mr Sandman
himself) had much seat time. BTW: when Barty was bragging about his
improvements, and had passed David Powell on GPLrank, Barty bragged about
it, teasing David. David's response was: "I don't care about being fast". In
your fight with Mr. Sandman you have mentioned you being number 10 in
GPLrank, whereas him being 129th, using this as a proof of you being more
talented/faster than him. Did you lie when you said you didn't care about
speed, or are you lying now?
I have met David on track. He is very easy to spot. You do not see him. He
is probably way ahead. Then, he meets some lappers. That's when you realize
David Powell is in the race. He crashes out, trying to pass a lapper, then
yells: "Fool!".
David has beaten me on track. He scared me off track by having more seat
time, and therefore more tactical skills. He would probably kick my butt at
any track at any time. He has always been faster than me. He has been
GPL-ing longer than me.
In this loooong posting, I have been addressing Mr Sandman as Mr Sandman,
and David Powell as David Powell. Why? Figure it out for yourself. Keyword
is: respect.
David Powell may not be the fastest racer on earth, but he is having a close
battle with the only worthy competitor (SAVATS) for being the fastest,
arrogant asshole in the world.
Jon Andersen,
with no respect
"David Powell" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding
news:[email hidden]...
> Also it is quite funny that of thishttp://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html
reliable
i
> saw.
>
> Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate champion,total
to
> stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadly for meas
> with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL played his
> cards to early. Top driver in the early days though.
>
> Hannsson - WHO?
>
> Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick, doesnthe
Marante,
> Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, Reinhold,
> Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman Furlan,
> Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. You haveGPL
> at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list of respected
> drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were virually no
> drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of
> mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for themselves...Butthats
> all part of the game...
>
> Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the scene, I
> and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to its demise,
> GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been hangingaround
> in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :)
>
> As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than George at
> playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition playingthe
sadly
> Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, which bymodern
> standards as slow as shit...
>
> This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I dont play
> F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly hope once
> again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed before
> there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an impact onGPL
> in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing where everyone
> has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there top ablilties
> and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. GPL in the
> early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case its not
> always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Top at the
> finish of competition you have to been there to progress and make yourmark
have
> raced with you during that period and know your limits, your propertalents.
>
> I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at GPL whenit
> came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that while people
> were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact remains at the
> finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or iconconvesations
> unlike all those frequently named ones I list about.
>
> Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not just fast of
> the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the interest in it
> shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, and letsfact
> it theres not much competition over there as with early days of GPL...
>
> Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mate yournot
early
By
> > this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. Also the
> > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has only beenfound
he
:)
> > >
> > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits.
> > >
> > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you andyou
> > were
> > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch.
> > >
> > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm tosave
> > his
> > > ego etched face.
> > >
> > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell'seyes
> > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best inhis
to
> > sort
> > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you and eventuallyhe
> > > will relent to your greater ability.
> > >
> > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revert toa
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> list > and I will talk frankly... > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, has monster > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level of consistancy > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time to reach > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I could reach > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the fastest, but > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, quickQuoted text (9 lines)
> but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properly in 2000. > > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away. > > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed with whatQuoted text (12 lines)
> domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every respect > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemed to fade > away as the new drivers got online. > > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the speed till > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuck with GPL > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL. > > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geo failedQuoted text (9 lines)
> run an F2 league now. > > etc etc > > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe only Gabor, > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the big times on > GPL. > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip,Quoted text (8 lines)
> game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my GPL time > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geo hasnt > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of others from > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest you dont > figure in the equation. > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it was when i > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest, soQuoted text (7 lines)
> with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause you won a > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a game called > GPL is mate, laughable.... > > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing wheel to > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat here argueing > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for you. IdQuoted text (13 lines)
> one of them :) > > David > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seen just > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the same sentance > as > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back inQuoted text (13 lines)
> to > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc were > racing > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, and what > ive > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone who got > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the very early > stages > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne back then > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the flocks of > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the masses.Quoted text (13 lines)
> > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL is now FAR > more > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang around the > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had pissed off > things > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i am today > then > > back them. > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and many others > were > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, not Geo, asQuoted text (11 lines)
> > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even have any > good > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > David > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on you GeorgeQuoted text (9 lines)
> > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like the > above > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by his words > to > > > you George. > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the 'ammunition'Quoted text (54 lines)
> > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you > > ,whichever > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > John > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > Jason > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > John > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > Jason > > > > > ><<G>>
(Andy rushes to David Powell's web site to see what Jon Anderson looks like)
:-))
Andy
Barty was ridiculed for being arrogant :)
ahem...
Jon Andersen <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In every sport or any other activity of a competative nature, skill growsas
> time goes by. Look at track&fields. Ppl have been dong track&fields for
> centurys, maybe thousands of years. How many WRs were set more than 10-20
> years old? Those running more 10-20 years ago, doing WRs: were they nogood?
still
> ranked 31th. Risto Junnilainen left the scene before I came along. He is
> still 34th.
>
> In 4 years, you may have gotten a life, and have quit GPL. By that time,you
> probably will not be ranked number 10 at GPLrank. You just may findyourself
> outside top 100. By your logic, you must be crap, then. You quit beforesome
> real talent came along.
>
> You being number 10 at GPLrank is a snapshot of history. Mr Sandman hadhis
> snapshot a few years ago. Still, you insist on comparing those snapshotsas
> if they were taken at the same time. Please do that after you have quitGPL,
> too. Then you would find that you are being beaten by some, arrogant kid,
> telling you that you were no good, racing before real talent came along.
>
> I remember when Barty Mee came along. He was the laughing stock at Vroc.The
> one everybody picked on. He did a few surprisingly fast laps, but was
> ridiculed for not being able to complete a race. He had been doing GPL for6
> months. Those ridiculing him had been racing for 2 years. Of course he
> crashed out more often than the veterans. He had less seat time. But hehad
> talent. He was fast, in spite of limited seat time. That's the kind ofskill
> David Powell refuses to acknowledge in his fight with Mr. Sandman. Mr.
> Sandman was fast at an early stage, when very few (including Mr Sandman
> himself) had much seat time. BTW: when Barty was bragging about his
> improvements, and had passed David Powell on GPLrank, Barty bragged about
> it, teasing David. David's response was: "I don't care about being fast".In
realize
> David Powell is in the race. He crashes out, trying to pass a lapper, then
> yells: "Fool!".
>
> David has beaten me on track. He scared me off track by having more seat
> time, and therefore more tactical skills. He would probably kick my buttat
close
monster
> > rank, mega monster rank, and quite possibly the best level ofconsistancy
> > with all cars ive every seen a GPL driver. Took me a long time to reach
> > Andis speed, but his overall commitment far excels anything I couldreach
> > for. Andreas is the perfect sim racer IMO, he may not be the fastest,but
2000.
> >
> > Krejcrik - Never that fast, seemed to fade away.
> >
> > Nowitzki - Little know of this driver really, not over impressed withwhat
fade
> > away as the new drivers got online.
> >
> > Stewart - On the scene early on, took Greg a while to find the speedtill
> > about mid 2001...top driver, very level headed, good racer, stuck withGPL
> > to the end and was a big player in the peak of GPL.
> >
> > Ehnstrom - Quick at first, very talanted no doubt, but as with Geofailed
doesnt
> he
> > run an F2 league now.
> >
> > etc etc
> >
> > It is interesting looking at this early list and seeing maybe onlyGabor,
> > Huttu, Wilke, Phelps, Stewart as drivers that featured in the big timeson
respected
I
> > and all the others in my list stuck with it and saw it done to itsdemise,
time
> > and my league racing/MOG/SRM/GPLWS/UKGPL/HGPLM/CHAMPS1-2 races Geo hasnt
> > been in any bar maybe 1-2, therefor for me and prolly alot of othersfrom
play
> > F12002 so I dont care whether your faster to be honest. I dearly hopeonce
> > again with RL that everyone in my list, and those sadly departed before
> > there talents had fully fledged and hadnt had time to make an impact on
> GPL
> > in its finest era will get there chance on a level playing whereeveryone
> > has amassed enough sim knowledge to be at or very near there topablilties
> > and from the off getting straight into racing like GPLs hayday. GPL inthe
> > early days was more about who learns fast, but as in Geo's case its not
> > always who learns fast who comes out on top, as to come out on Top atthe
> > finish of competition you have to been there to progress and make your
> mark
> > with the times. Trying to say your better than me at GPL cause you won a
> > season before 80% of the big names even discovered there was a gamecalled
> > GPL is mate, laughable....
> >
> > If it were anyone in my list that I had built respect for racing wheelto
> > wheel for the last 2years in full GP's etc i wouldnt be sat hereargueing
people
> > were discovering the game and learning to play it, but fact remains atthe
> > finishing post your name doesnt even enter any GPL god or icon
> convesations
> > unlike all those frequently named ones I list about.
> >
> > Sorry chap youll have to wait for RL to prove to me your not just fastof
> > the blocks...F12002 could offer this but sadly it seems the interest init
just
> > > about every driver come and go, and I dont rate Geo in the samesentance
what
then
> > > there were very few racers to be fair, and when I arrived the flocksof
> > > talent were just approaching and GPL opened up big time to the masses.
> By
> > > this George had already packed his bags and run off elsewhere. Alsothe
> > > times run back then were shit to be honest...the limit has only been
> found
> > > in the last year really even for old cards like Stewart, GPL is nowFAR
> > more
> > > difficult to be at the top than back in 2000, I used to hang aroundthe
as
> he
> > > never reached his full potential, stuck at it, and doesnt even haveany
George
words
eventually
> he
> > > > will relent to your greater ability.
> > > >
> > > > Be aware that if Powell smells defeat in this matter he may revertto
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> They must be, using the logic you present. > > GPL is 4 years old. > > How dare you say that those doing close to WR laps 2-4 years ago were no > good? BTW: In your list of respected drivers, several of those left the > scene a while ago. If Mr. Sandman isn't worthy of respect, then I fail to > see how a few of the other drivers you mentioned are worthy of respect. > > Although you do not say this explicitly about Roland Ehnstr�m, you are > saying that the heroes of the past left before real talent came along. > Roland left the scene approx 2 years ago. He was never number 1. He isQuoted text (7 lines)
> your fight with Mr. Sandman you have mentioned you being number 10 in > GPLrank, whereas him being 129th, using this as a proof of you being more > talented/faster than him. Did you lie when you said you didn't care about > speed, or are you lying now? > > I have met David on track. He is very easy to spot. You do not see him. He > is probably way ahead. Then, he meets some lappers. That's when youQuoted text (8 lines)
> any track at any time. He has always been faster than me. He has been > GPL-ing longer than me. > > In this loooong posting, I have been addressing Mr Sandman as Mr Sandman, > and David Powell as David Powell. Why? Figure it out for yourself. Keyword > is: respect. > > David Powell may not be the fastest racer on earth, but he is having aQuoted text (17 lines)
> battle with the only worthy competitor (SAVATS) for being the fastest, > arrogant asshole in the world. > > Jon Andersen, > with no respect > > > > > "David Powell" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding > news:[email hidden]... > > Also it is quite funny that of this > http://home.snafu.de/xoph/sistandf1.html > > list > > and I will talk frankly... > > > > Andreas Wilke - Top driver has done very well, super commited, hasQuoted text (9 lines)
> > hes very technical and offers the sport everything he has. > > > > Marko Vitanen - Fast early on played in very late 2001 times, quick > reliable > > but never quite seemed to get where he going speed wise. > > > > Fromel - Fast driver thesedays, and always has been. > > > > U'Ren - Never made the grade once the GPL thing took off properly inQuoted text (10 lines)
> i > > saw. > > > > Huttu - During the 2000/early 2001, Huttu was the consumate champion, > total > > domination of everything, during the very peak of GPL online early > > 2000/early 2001 Huttu was unstoppable, he grasp of GPL in every respect > > dominated everyone. Masterful. Left us in early 2001. > > > > Arnholm - Very quick early on in GPL 99/early 00, but then seemed toQuoted text (9 lines)
> to > > stay with GPL long enough nd play during the peak, therefor sadly for me > as > > with George was once good, but in the overall picture of GPL played his > > cards to early. Top driver in the early days though. > > > > Hannsson - WHO? > > > > Longfield - Never raced against, average driver, not overly quick,Quoted text (9 lines)
> > GPL. > > > > Add to this list Jon Davies, Lclean, Firlien, Royal, Mee, Wintrip, > Marante, > > Knops, Miskelly, Rosenwieg, Bolcina, Mercer, Prydden, Schmidt, Reinhold, > > Gardewall, Weiland, Weoger, Hudevndiek, Kalisinik, Lake, Kleman Furlan, > > Langraf, Junnilanen and sorry to all from the period i forgot. You have > GPL > > at its best, you notice Georges name doesnt come into my list ofQuoted text (7 lines)
> > drivers as. From the time George was playing GPL there were virually no > > drivers that made it, or stayed with GPL till the high times of > > mid00/late01. 4 of this list have done very well for themselves...But > thats > > all part of the game... > > > > Old Geo left before it all kicked off and some talent got on the scene,Quoted text (8 lines)
> > GPL lost its bite for most in late 2001, since then its been hanging > around > > in VROC waiting for WSC/RL :) > > > > As we hung around and played longer, that makes us better than George at > > playing GPL this cannot be doubted, and afterall in competition playing > the > > game is how you compete. Ive only seriously played GPL and in my GPLQuoted text (11 lines)
> > the late arrivals who enjoyed the fruits of GPL at its finest you dont > > figure in the equation. > > > > GPL was ten times more competitive in late 00/early01 that it was when i > > arrived December 99. But sadly by this time Geo had flow the nest, so > sadly > > Geo is only as fast at GPL than his last setup of qual laps, which by > modern > > standards as slow as shit... > > > > This is therefor why I dont rate you Geo at the sim I play....I dontQuoted text (8 lines)
> > with you, as id know you were talented and Id have respect for you. Id > have > > raced with you during that period and know your limits, your proper > talents. > > > > I and all the all names on my list are miles better than you at GPL when > it > > came to the finishing line, you could have been this and that whileQuoted text (16 lines)
> > shown by VROC members since its release has all but dried out, and lets > fact > > it theres not much competition over there as with early days of GPL... > > > > Theres a lot of drivers i have alot of respect for Geo, sadly mate your > not > > one of them :) > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > David Powell <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > I have been in GPL since 99 on and off playing Andrew, I have seenQuoted text (7 lines)
> > as > > > any of the drivers youve mentioned mate. At the peak of GPL back in > early > > to > > > late 2001 when wilke, greger, stewart, mee, mclean, bolcina etc were > > racing > > > George was nowhere, Geo started played in the very early days, andQuoted text (7 lines)
> > ive > > > seen of him on track since then has been reflection of someone who got > > > washed up and went elsewhere.... > > > > > > Geo missed the boat, he might have been good in 99 and the very early > > stages > > > of 2000. the old Savats and chaz days, but lets fact it onlne backQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > top10-20 baord in the old days, then in 2001 after geo had pissed off > > things > > > got hot! both ranks and racing. Far more effort to be where i am today > > then > > > back them. > > > > > > > > > Geo sadly disappeared before the GPL hayday, luckily I and many others > > were > > > about during this time and its these drivers i rate highly, not Geo,Quoted text (10 lines)
> > good > > > laps in any car bar the eagle.. > > > > > > Good in the old days, nowhere now.... > > > > > > David > > > > > > Andrew <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:aij0lo$rt7$[email hidden]... > > > > After reading this great thread i did a little research on youQuoted text (23 lines)
> :) > > > > > > > > It seems you are/were a real sim racing star,so now it all fits. > > > > > > > > Powell obviously came into the 'elite' drivers circle after you and > you > > > were > > > > the name in lights at the top he was striving to catch. > > > > > > > > His adoration of you is obvious,it comes out in hate and sarcasm to > save > > > his > > > > ego etched face. > > > > > > > > It seems to me after reading all the thread again that in Powell's > eyes > > > > whoever is top now is better,so poor Greger is now only 3rd best in > his > > > > eyes,and likewise with Bolcina,Junnilanen,Crispenberg et al. > > > > > > > > Powell may be top 10(or 10th) now but if all had carried on like the > > above > > > > mentioned,he knows he would be alot lower,this is obvious by hisQuoted text (7 lines)
> > to > > > > you George. > > > > > > > > RAS bully boys need sorting out and you George have the 'ammunition' > to > > > sort > > > > out Powell,you were/are his mentor,he does worship you andQuoted text (56 lines)
> a > > > > different angle,like being wealthier than you or younger than you > > > ,whichever > > > > takes the spoils :) > > > > > > > > Nice work George.:) > > > > > > > > > > > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > John Pancoast <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Lol, no kidding. > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > "jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:09:20 +0100, "David Powell" > > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >I conclude this arguement as pointless.... > > > > > > > > If there is anything more pointless than hotlapping, it's arguing > > > > about hotlapping. > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > >EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Zzz.. Wha!
> Hey, what *did* happen to Jens? I haven't seen him post in a while, but I've
> seen Asbjorn post...
I'm konda on a simracing break as well, actually. I've moved again,
this time to Singapore, and no longer have a PC. For some reason I
ended up buying a mac this time around, so I guess Racer(TM) is the
only racing sim I can run. Once I get any steering device, that is.
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-asbjxrn, going back to lurking mode.
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> In article <xY939.46762$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >"EldredP" wrote... > >> I'll even provide a server if there's a 'grudge match'... > > > >Hmmm... depends on whether we can get Kruuse and Bjornstad to come out now > >I've passed them on GPLRank. ;-)On 27 Aug 2002 09:48:05 +0200, [email hidden]
(=?iso-8859-1?q?Asbj=F8rn_Bj=F8rnstad?=) wrote:
I'm on a simracing break as well.. met a girl, we're going to marry in
June, after that it's time for kids.. but when my kids have grown-up
I'll be back!!
Andre
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>I'm konda on a simracing break as well, actually. I've moved again, >this time to Singapore, and no longer have a PC. For some reason I >ended up buying a mac this time around, so I guess Racer(TM) is the >only racing sim I can run. Once I get any steering device, that is. > >-- > -asbjxrn, going back to lurking mode.[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes:
Hey! Were did you hide away Andre, and why do you pretend you are him
?
:D
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> On 27 Aug 2002 09:48:05 +0200, [email hidden] > (=?iso-8859-1?q?Asbj=F8rn_Bj=F8rnstad?=) wrote: > > >I'm konda on a simracing break as well, actually. I've moved again, > >this time to Singapore, and no longer have a PC. For some reason I > >ended up buying a mac this time around, so I guess Racer(TM) is the > >only racing sim I can run. Once I get any steering device, that is. > > > >-- > > -asbjxrn, going back to lurking mode. > > I'm on a simracing break as well.. met a girl, we're going to marry in > June, after that it's time for kids.. but when my kids have grown-up > I'll be back!!On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:35:17 GMT, Andre Warringa
<[email hidden]> wrote:
> I'm on a simracing break as well.. met a girl, we're going to marry in
> June, after that it's time for kids.. but when my kids have grown-up
> I'll be back!!
>
> Andre
wow, sounds like you're on the fast track to family life, mate,
take it easy and (at least try to ;-) plan every step
carefully. Kids are quite a handful to get used to if you've
been single all this time ;-)
Cheers & good Luck,
Uwe
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"Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad" wrote...
> > > Hmmm... depends on whether we can get Kruuse and
> > > Bjornstad to come out now I've passed them on
> > > GPLRank. ;-)
>
> Zzz.. Wha!
Surprising, ain't it? <vbg>
> > <snip>
> I'm konda on a simracing break as well, actually. I've
> moved again, this time to Singapore, and no longer have
> a PC.
Eh, what exactly did you move to Singapore then? -Just yourself?
> For some reason I ended up buying a mac this time around,
> so I guess Racer(TM) is the only racing sim I can run.
> Once I get any steering device, that is.
An online simmer, buying a Mac... ok, *now* I've seen everything. ;-)
Jan.
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Surprising, ain't it? <vbg>
Eh, what exactly did you move to Singapore then? -Just yourself?
An online simmer, buying a Mac... ok, *now* I've seen everything. ;-)
Jan.
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"Andre Warringa" wrote...
> > <snip>
> I'm on a simracing break as well.. met a girl, we're
> going to marry in June, after that it's time for kids..
> but when my kids have grown-up I'll be back!!
Subject: Andre Warringa
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Jan. ;-)
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On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:11:15 +0200, Uwe Schuerkamp
<[email hidden]> wrote:
2 months after I met her she moved in with me, 2 months after that I
asked her to marry me.. Yup, planning everything slowly and carefully
:)
Andre
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>wow, sounds like you're on the fast track to family life, mate, >take it easy and (at least try to ;-) plan every step >carefully. Kids are quite a handful to get used to if you've >been single all this time ;-) > >Cheers & good Luck, > >UweIn article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes:
>I'm on a simracing break as well.. met a girl, we're going to marry in
>June, after that it's time for kids.. but when my kids have grown-up
>I'll be back!!
Whao - didn't you just start dating her in the spring? Looks like you're fast
OFF the track as well...<g>
Congrats!
Eldred
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[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes:
> I'm on a simracing break as well.. met a girl, we're going to marry in
> June, after that it's time for kids.. but when my kids have grown-up
> I'll be back!!
Congratulations.
But didn't she really admire your Momo? Or was that just a sinister
plot to get you hooked? :-)
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"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes:
Basically me and some suitcases/bags. Sold off my PC/TV and bought a
plane ticket. The mac is a laptop, so it was easy to move.
> > For some reason I ended up buying a mac this time around,
> > so I guess Racer(TM) is the only racing sim I can run.
> > Once I get any steering device, that is.
>
> An online simmer, buying a Mac... ok, *now* I've seen everything. ;-)
Go Ruud, go. Actually, the racing break started a bit before I bought
the Mac, just too much other stuff to do.
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-asbjxrn
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> "Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad" wrote... > > > > I'm kinda on a simracing break as well, actually. I've > > moved again, this time to Singapore, and no longer have > > a PC. > > Eh, what exactly did you move to Singapore then? -Just yourself?ANDRE NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you cant to that man :) oh well whatever, makes you
happy...:)
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