forget racing legends-- what would you pay for this ??

http://www.force-dynamics.com/ Well ?

"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > Well ? I just dont get it. ? - Why do some have this gigantic bug up there arse because some folks like the Racing Legend concept ? / Borchers

If the person that did that drawing is building the thing, I don't think I would even sit in it, due to the injuries I might receive. Better have some good insurance if you plant you ass in that contraption. In article <7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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nothing wrong with liking it, only there is nothing to like at the moment......... sudesh "Karsten Borchers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d32e866$0$46311$[email hidden]...

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> "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > > > Well ? > > I just dont get it. ? > - Why do some have this gigantic bug up there arse because some folks like > the Racing Legend concept ? > > / Borchers > >

Was a serious question. No bug up this ass. Say, you aren't a member of that West cult, are you ??? "Karsten Borchers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d32e866$0$46311$[email hidden]...

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> "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > > > Well ? > > I just dont get it. ? > - Why do some have this gigantic bug up there arse because some folks like > the Racing Legend concept ? > > / Borchers > >

lol You would be a lot more careful about wrecking in it, 'cause you know you would be killed when it collapsed on you...... I like the idea,though, and am glad to see someone working on it. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> If the person that did that drawing is building the thing, > I don't think I would even sit in it, due to the injuries I > might receive. Better have some good insurance if you plant > you ass in that contraption. > > In article <7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > > > Well ? > > > > > > > > > >

sudesh Bhagwandin wrote: > > nothing wrong with liking it, only there is nothing to like at the > moment......... > That the thing with concepts...

"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5UBY8.72954$[email hidden]... > Was a serious question. No bug up this ass. Say, you aren't a member ofthat > West cult, are you ??? And was a serious answer ;) - Yes I'm a believer.. / Borchers

Just think what fun you could have if this motion simulator gets produced, and if RL lives up to the hype, and they let you stop working in the community garden long enough to enjoy them together..... :) "Karsten Borchers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d32f004$0$46215$[email hidden]...

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> "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:5UBY8.72954$[email hidden]... > > Was a serious question. No bug up this ass. Say, you aren't a member of > that > > West cult, are you ??? > > And was a serious answer ;) > - Yes I'm a believer.. > > / Borchers > > >

"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:P8CY8.73065$[email hidden]... > Just think what fun you could have if this motion simulator gets produced, > and if RL lives up to the hype, and they let you stop working in the > community garden long enough to enjoy them together..... > > :) Are you religious ? / Borchers

No. "Karsten Borchers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d32f365$0$46320$[email hidden]... > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:P8CY8.73065$[email hidden]... > > Just think what fun you could have if this motion simulator getsproduced,

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> > and if RL lives up to the hype, and they let you stop working in the > > community garden long enough to enjoy them together..... > > > > :) > > Are you religious ? > > / Borchers > > > >

"jon" wrote... > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > Well ? There is a snag... I got room for another program on my computer. I don't have room to install *that*. Jan. =---

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:13:23 -0400, "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote: >http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > >Well ? Very cool. If it worked well (with a lot of commercial games) I don't know, maybe $1000?

"jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > Well ? I chekced some months ago and I think they guessed $ 10-15k. It is not meant for personal use, but there will be a less expensive mass production version later as far as I understood. $1000-2000 might be acceptable for me if I knew it was very good. I guess the first home g-force generators should be a lot simpler in design. Mybe the simple version is just front back tilt and something like 10-15 degrees in each direction. Would be nice to feel weight transfer. Ivar

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> > sudesh Bhagwandin wrote: > > > > nothing wrong with liking it, only there is nothing to like at the > > moment......... > > >

That'S the thing with concepts...

Well from the looks of this website, it looks complicated, but over at the Racer website they describe it as being a "chair". "Ivar Sandstad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LpEY8.5698$[email hidden]...

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> > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > > > Well ? > > I chekced some months ago and I think they guessed $ 10-15k. > It is not meant for personal use, but there will be a less expensive > mass production version later as far as I understood. > > $1000-2000 might be acceptable for me if I knew it was very good. > > I guess the first home g-force generators should be a lot simpler in > design. Mybe the simple version is just front back tilt and something > like 10-15 degrees in each direction. Would be nice to feel weight > transfer. > > > Ivar > > >

I would pay US$2-3000 �1500-2000 for an "immersion" simulator experience, including g-force chassis, curved or multiple angle screens, FF pedals etc. There is a rider on this. The technology must add to producing a realistic experience. Another way of putting is that all sensory input should give me finer control over the virtual car. My concern from experience the arcade type g-force simulators is that they are a fun gimmick, but totally unrealistic. "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]...

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Now that I am cleared of my "ppl against the RL thing" bug, I can see again. This heat is getting to me ;) Man how blind can one be. I reacted totally foolish, sorry Jon. (and others) First I saw it as a sick joke, but hey it wasnt. It's the real deal. :D It's a very cool concept there. Looks expensive though ? Should be interresting to follow their progress. Best regards. Karsten Borchers "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]...

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Hey, with all the tension building in here, who could blame you? :) "Karsten Borchers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3d334065$0$46260$[email hidden]... > Now that I am cleared of my "ppl against the RL thing" bug, I can seeagain. > This heat is getting to me ;) > Man how blind can one be. I reacted totally foolish, sorry Jon. (andothers)

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> > First I saw it as a sick joke, but hey it wasnt. It's the real deal. :D > It's a very cool concept there. Looks expensive though ? > > Should be interresting to follow their progress. > > Best regards. > > Karsten Borchers

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:13:23 -0400, "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote: >http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > >Well ? Nothing. My niece will make scribbles for me all day for free.

IIRC, the NADS project at the University at Iowa cost several tens of millions of dollars. If I ever win the lottery, I plan on buying myself something similar. I wonder if the who I could get to write software for it? http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/departments/nrd-12/NationalAdvancedDriverSimula tor.html Gerald "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]...

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Gerald Moore heeft geschreven in bericht ... >IIRC, the NADS project at the University at Iowa cost several tens of >millions of dollars. > >http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/departments/nrd-12/NationalAdvancedDriverSimula >tor.html The Dutch are geared towards the "simracers" with a lookalike http://www.xs4all.nl/~rhoevers/ see f1 simulation button motion button Hans

Yeah, I imagine they still got a loooong way to go b4 it would be realistic enough to be worth it. "Tim Epstein" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9lHY8.3317$[email hidden]... > I would pay US$2-3000 �1500-2000 for an "immersion" simulator experience, > including g-force chassis, curved or multiple angle screens, FF pedalsetc. > > There is a rider on this. The technology must add to producing a realistic > experience. Another way of putting is that all sensory input should giveme

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> finer control over the virtual car. > > My concern from experience the arcade type g-force simulators is that they > are a fun gimmick, but totally unrealistic. > > > > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > > > Well ? > > > > > > > > > >

I have heard stories (urban myth's ?) of guys in the full motion flight simulators who screamed when they saw the ground rushing up at them. If they are true, I would say ten's of millions of dollars would be a small price to pay. :) "Gerald Moore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XnLY8.23967$[email hidden]... > IIRC, the NADS project at the University at Iowa cost several tens of > millions of dollars. If I ever win the lottery, I plan on buying myself > something similar. I wonder if the who I could get to write software for > it? > >http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/departments/nrd-12/NationalAdvancedDriverSimula

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> tor.html > > Gerald > > > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > > > Well ? > > > > > > > > > >

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:40:20 -0400, "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Well from the looks of this website, it looks complicated, but over at the >Racer website they describe it as being a "chair". Well, that was just my personal word. :) It's more of a motion platform. Chair was more of a historical word, but having been to Fokker here in the Netherlands that's not really a good term for the fancy stuff they have. ;-) Ruud van Gaal Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/ Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

I think RAS should organize a road trip to Iowa City to check this thing out. I mean, it's supposed to be the most advanced motor vehicle simulator on the planet, wouldn't they want to hear from RAS to make sure they got it right? Also, I'll bet they can never get enough volunteers to drive the thing when they are doing their "Effects of Alcohol Intoxication on Motor Vehicle Operation" studies... we should definitely help them out, especially if they are supplying the beer... cheers, Gerald "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<_ILY8.76283$[email hidden]>...

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> I have heard stories (urban myth's ?) of guys in the full motion flight > simulators who screamed when they saw the ground rushing up at them. If > they are true, I would say ten's of millions of dollars would be a small > price to pay. :) > > > > "Gerald Moore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XnLY8.23967$[email hidden]... > > IIRC, the NADS project at the University at Iowa cost several tens of > > millions of dollars. If I ever win the lottery, I plan on buying myself > > something similar. I wonder if the who I could get to write software for > > it? > > > > > http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/departments/nrd-12/NationalAdvancedDriverSimula > > tor.html > > > > Gerald > > > > > > > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > > > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > > > > > Well ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

"Gerald Moore" wrote... > I think RAS should organize a road trip to Iowa City > to check this thing out. I mean, it's supposed to be the > most advanced motor vehicle simulator on the planet, > wouldn't they want to hear from RAS to make sure > they got it right? No need... "it's no GPL". Forgone conclusion. Jan. :-) =---

ahhh..... "Ruud van Gaal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:40:20 -0400, "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Well from the looks of this website, it looks complicated, but over atthe

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> >Racer website they describe it as being a "chair". > > Well, that was just my personal word. :) > It's more of a motion platform. Chair was more of a historical word, > but having been to Fokker here in the Netherlands that's not really a > good term for the fancy stuff they have. ;-) > > Ruud van Gaal > Free car sim: http://www.racer.nl/ > Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

isn't nads short for gonads? -- Tim White INTRAC Motorsports www.birds-i-view.com/intrac "Gerald Moore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XnLY8.23967$[email hidden]... > IIRC, the NADS project at the University at Iowa cost several tens of > millions of dollars. If I ever win the lottery, I plan on buying myself > something similar. I wonder if the who I could get to write software for > it? > > http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/departments/nrd-12/NationalAdvancedDriverSimula > tor.html > > Gerald > > > > "jon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:7sBY8.72714$[email hidden]... > > http://www.force-dynamics.com/ > > > > Well ? > > > > > > > > > >

"sudesh Bhagwandin" <[email hidden]> blabbed in news:[email hidden]: > nothing wrong with liking it, only there is nothing to like at the > moment......... The fact the West brothers had the integrity not to sellout and *try* and see their vision through is enough to like already. Some of you just don't get it.

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 00:48:58 -0000, Codex <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"sudesh Bhagwandin" <[email hidden]> blabbed in >news:[email hidden]: > >> nothing wrong with liking it, only there is nothing to like at the >> moment......... > >The fact the West brothers had the integrity not to sellout and *try* and >see their vision through is enough to like already. Some of you just don't >get it.

Hear, hear... Remco