You feel with the 100 k pot you get smoother motion? I have the 50k in my
TSW. The steering was "stepped" if you will. Looks like I need to change
those pots.
DC
Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:afar2g$3o3$[email hidden]...
> Hi folks
>
> Last week I posted a message about the Rockfire USB adapter to get other
> opinions before I bought one. I went ahead a got one and I must say it is
> worth it.
> I tested the unit using both low grade and two brands of high grade potsand
> in all cases the calibration in Windows is rock solid. Change the
> controller back to the standard windows via the games ports and all typeof
> pots had the jitters.
> The onlt thing I had to do was to change the steering pot froma 50k ohm toa
> 100 k ohm to get a smoother movement as the Rockfire tends to have notchy
> movement with the lower pots.
>
> The Rockfire may even speed the game up a little as it is my understanding
> that the standard games ports only runs at 8 mhz and apparently the PC'sCPU
Thanks Nigel...Thomas Enterprises now makes a converter "pass through" box
that allows the the 50k's to be used with an usb converter. I wonder if this
is a good solution?
DC
Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:afbosm$cea$[email hidden]...
> Hi David
>
> Yes the 100k pot are smoother than the 50k. There are about 25 stepswith
> the 50's and about 50 with the 100k's. Some have said that 250k are
> required but I don't know about that yet. I tried a 500k but thecalibration
> wouldn't move at all.
>
> A race in GPL in Vroc proved very good as I felt the steering with the100'k
my
other
> > > opinions before I bought one. I went ahead a got one and I must say it
> is
> > > worth it.
> > > I tested the unit using both low grade and two brands of high gradepots
> > and
> > > in all cases the calibration in Windows is rock solid. Change the
> > > controller back to the standard windows via the games ports and alltype
> > of
> > > pots had the jitters.
> > > The onlt thing I had to do was to change the steering pot froma 50kohm
PC's
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> very smoother and without the jitters I often experienced with the games > port. > > Nigel > > > David Ciemny <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:gu7S8.25650$[email hidden]... > > You feel with the 100 k pot you get smoother motion? I have the 50k inQuoted text (9 lines)
> > TSW. The steering was "stepped" if you will. Looks like I need to change > > those pots. > > > > DC > > Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:afar2g$3o3$[email hidden]... > > > Hi folks > > > > > > Last week I posted a message about the Rockfire USB adapter to getQuoted text (9 lines)
> to > > a > > > 100 k ohm to get a smoother movement as the Rockfire tends to have > notchy > > > movement with the lower pots. > > > > > > The Rockfire may even speed the game up a little as it is my > understanding > > > that the standard games ports only runs at 8 mhz and apparently theQuoted text (22 lines)
> > CPU > > > has to go into a wait state as it waits for the games port to pass the > > > signal. Maybe the Rockfire copes better with today speed CPU. > > > I will do more tests to confirm my idea. > > > > > > Anyway get the Rockfire, its worth it. > > > Discounted price at the moment at > > > http://www.usbcable.com/ > > > > > > Got mine in 5 days from the US to New Zealand. > > > > > > Cya > > > Nigel Nichols > > > Redline Race Controls > > > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
"David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:6IfS8.5441$[email hidden]...
> Thanks Nigel...Thomas Enterprises now makes a converter "pass through" box
> that allows the the 50k's to be used with an usb converter. I wonder ifthis
> is a good solution?
>
> DC
I guess the 100k pots can be used for steering since it probably uses most
of
the pot range (270 degrees).
For pedals (I have not seen the inside of TSW pedals, so they may be
different),
normally the pot is rotated about 90 degrees or less. This means the range
from
lower to upper value is about 1/3 of what it is for a wheel.
If a 250k pot works for pedals, a 100k pot should work ok for a wheel.
Ivar
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> > Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afbosm$cea$[email hidden]... > > Hi David > > > > Yes the 100k pot are smoother than the 50k. There are about 25 steps > with > > the 50's and about 50 with the 100k's. Some have said that 250k are > > required but I don't know about that yet. I tried a 500k but the > calibration > > wouldn't move at all. > > > > A race in GPL in Vroc proved very good as I felt the steering with the > 100'k > > very smoother and without the jitters I often experienced with the games > > port. > > > > Nigel > > > > >Hi folks
Last week I posted a message about the Rockfire USB adapter to get other
opinions before I bought one. I went ahead a got one and I must say it is
worth it.
I tested the unit using both low grade and two brands of high grade pots and
in all cases the calibration in Windows is rock solid. Change the
controller back to the standard windows via the games ports and all type of
pots had the jitters.
The onlt thing I had to do was to change the steering pot froma 50k ohm to a
100 k ohm to get a smoother movement as the Rockfire tends to have notchy
movement with the lower pots.
The Rockfire may even speed the game up a little as it is my understanding
that the standard games ports only runs at 8 mhz and apparently the PC's CPU
has to go into a wait state as it waits for the games port to pass the
signal. Maybe the Rockfire copes better with today speed CPU.
I will do more tests to confirm my idea.
Anyway get the Rockfire, its worth it.
Discounted price at the moment at
http://www.usbcable.com/
Got mine in 5 days from the US to New Zealand.
Cya
Nigel Nichols
Redline Race Controls
http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm
This same convertor can be found at:
http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/prods/usbadp.html
Price is $25 at their site.
Kerry
"Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:afar2g$3o3$[email hidden]...
> Hi folks
>
> Last week I posted a message about the Rockfire USB adapter to get other
> opinions before I bought one. I went ahead a got one and I must say it is
> worth it.
> I tested the unit using both low grade and two brands of high grade potsand
> in all cases the calibration in Windows is rock solid. Change the
> controller back to the standard windows via the games ports and all typeof
> pots had the jitters.
> The onlt thing I had to do was to change the steering pot froma 50k ohm toa
> 100 k ohm to get a smoother movement as the Rockfire tends to have notchy
> movement with the lower pots.
>
> The Rockfire may even speed the game up a little as it is my understanding
> that the standard games ports only runs at 8 mhz and apparently the PC'sCPU
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> has to go into a wait state as it waits for the games port to pass the > signal. Maybe the Rockfire copes better with today speed CPU. > I will do more tests to confirm my idea. > > Anyway get the Rockfire, its worth it. > Discounted price at the moment at > http://www.usbcable.com/ > > Got mine in 5 days from the US to New Zealand. > > Cya > Nigel Nichols > Redline Race Controls > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > >http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/news.html
scroll down to 6/19/02 read down a bit and they are selling the pass through
boxes (external) for tsw for $40.00 US.
DC
Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:afd72t$o8m$[email hidden]...
> By the way. I must mention that I cannot get the Rockfire to work well in
> EA's F12001. In fact I can't get a dual axis controller to work in F12001.
> I can run a single axis unit via the games ports but only as "Custom"
> setup.
> And now that you have brought up F1 2001's "custom" controller setup,,.....
> how or where do you calibrate it or does EA's asume all controllers are
> equal. ????
>
> Advice to other racing sim designers. Ring Papyrus and ask how to make
> setting up a controller simple and effective, not to mention making ituser
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> configurable no matter if you use DirectX or Generic . Don't be ashamed, > just ask. > > Flame away, it's winter here, I could do with warming up. > > > Nigel Nichols > >Hi David
Yes the 100k pot are smoother than the 50k. There are about 25 steps with
the 50's and about 50 with the 100k's. Some have said that 250k are
required but I don't know about that yet. I tried a 500k but the calibration
wouldn't move at all.
A race in GPL in Vroc proved very good as I felt the steering with the 100'k
very smoother and without the jitters I often experienced with the games
port.
Nigel
David Ciemny <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:gu7S8.25650$[email hidden]...
is
to
> a
> > 100 k ohm to get a smoother movement as the Rockfire tends to havenotchy
> > movement with the lower pots.
> >
> > The Rockfire may even speed the game up a little as it is myunderstanding
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> You feel with the 100 k pot you get smoother motion? I have the 50k in my > TSW. The steering was "stepped" if you will. Looks like I need to change > those pots. > > DC > Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afar2g$3o3$[email hidden]... > > Hi folks > > > > Last week I posted a message about the Rockfire USB adapter to get other > > opinions before I bought one. I went ahead a got one and I must say itQuoted text (8 lines)
> > worth it. > > I tested the unit using both low grade and two brands of high grade pots > and > > in all cases the calibration in Windows is rock solid. Change the > > controller back to the standard windows via the games ports and all type > of > > pots had the jitters. > > The onlt thing I had to do was to change the steering pot froma 50k ohmQuoted text (21 lines)
> > that the standard games ports only runs at 8 mhz and apparently the PC's > CPU > > has to go into a wait state as it waits for the games port to pass the > > signal. Maybe the Rockfire copes better with today speed CPU. > > I will do more tests to confirm my idea. > > > > Anyway get the Rockfire, its worth it. > > Discounted price at the moment at > > http://www.usbcable.com/ > > > > Got mine in 5 days from the US to New Zealand. > > > > Cya > > Nigel Nichols > > Redline Race Controls > > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > > > > >I Don't kow how the Rockfire works but I'm guessing that it converts the
analogue signal from the controller into digital before it passes it onto
the USB port.
Anybody know if that it correct
Nigel
Kerry Grant <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:3d1a0637$[email hidden]...
is
to
> a
> > 100 k ohm to get a smoother movement as the Rockfire tends to havenotchy
> > movement with the lower pots.
> >
> > The Rockfire may even speed the game up a little as it is myunderstanding
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> This same convertor can be found at: > > http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/prods/usbadp.html > > Price is $25 at their site. > > Kerry > > "Nigel Nichols" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afar2g$3o3$[email hidden]... > > Hi folks > > > > Last week I posted a message about the Rockfire USB adapter to get other > > opinions before I bought one. I went ahead a got one and I must say itQuoted text (8 lines)
> > worth it. > > I tested the unit using both low grade and two brands of high grade pots > and > > in all cases the calibration in Windows is rock solid. Change the > > controller back to the standard windows via the games ports and all type > of > > pots had the jitters. > > The onlt thing I had to do was to change the steering pot froma 50k ohmQuoted text (21 lines)
> > that the standard games ports only runs at 8 mhz and apparently the PC's > CPU > > has to go into a wait state as it waits for the games port to pass the > > signal. Maybe the Rockfire copes better with today speed CPU. > > I will do more tests to confirm my idea. > > > > Anyway get the Rockfire, its worth it. > > Discounted price at the moment at > > http://www.usbcable.com/ > > > > Got mine in 5 days from the US to New Zealand. > > > > Cya > > Nigel Nichols > > Redline Race Controls > > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > > > > >David
I couldn't find the pass through box you mentioned on the TSW site. Have
you got a URL please
Nigel
Redline Race Controls
http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm
David Ciemny <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:6IfS8.5441$[email hidden]...
> Thanks Nigel...Thomas Enterprises now makes a converter "pass through" box
> that allows the the 50k's to be used with an usb converter. I wonder ifthis
change
it
the
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> is a good solution? > > DC > > Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:afbosm$cea$[email hidden]... > > Hi David > > > > Yes the 100k pot are smoother than the 50k. There are about 25 steps > with > > the 50's and about 50 with the 100k's. Some have said that 250k are > > required but I don't know about that yet. I tried a 500k but the > calibration > > wouldn't move at all. > > > > A race in GPL in Vroc proved very good as I felt the steering with the > 100'k > > very smoother and without the jitters I often experienced with the games > > port. > > > > Nigel > > > > > > David Ciemny <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:gu7S8.25650$[email hidden]... > > > You feel with the 100 k pot you get smoother motion? I have the 50k in > my > > > TSW. The steering was "stepped" if you will. Looks like I need toQuoted text (10 lines)
> > > those pots. > > > > > > DC > > > Nigel Nichols <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:afar2g$3o3$[email hidden]... > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > > > Last week I posted a message about the Rockfire USB adapter to get > other > > > > opinions before I bought one. I went ahead a got one and I must sayQuoted text (24 lines)
> > is > > > > worth it. > > > > I tested the unit using both low grade and two brands of high grade > pots > > > and > > > > in all cases the calibration in Windows is rock solid. Change the > > > > controller back to the standard windows via the games ports and all > type > > > of > > > > pots had the jitters. > > > > The onlt thing I had to do was to change the steering pot froma 50k > ohm > > to > > > a > > > > 100 k ohm to get a smoother movement as the Rockfire tends to have > > notchy > > > > movement with the lower pots. > > > > > > > > The Rockfire may even speed the game up a little as it is my > > understanding > > > > that the standard games ports only runs at 8 mhz and apparently the > PC's > > > CPU > > > > has to go into a wait state as it waits for the games port to passQuoted text (22 lines)
> > > > signal. Maybe the Rockfire copes better with today speed CPU. > > > > I will do more tests to confirm my idea. > > > > > > > > Anyway get the Rockfire, its worth it. > > > > Discounted price at the moment at > > > > http://www.usbcable.com/ > > > > > > > > Got mine in 5 days from the US to New Zealand. > > > > > > > > Cya > > > > Nigel Nichols > > > > Redline Race Controls > > > > http://www.wave.co.nz/~lakewood/Redline2.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >By the way. I must mention that I cannot get the Rockfire to work well in
EA's F12001. In fact I can't get a dual axis controller to work in F1 2001.
I can run a single axis unit via the games ports but only as "Custom"
setup.
And now that you have brought up F1 2001's "custom" controller setup,, .....
how or where do you calibrate it or does EA's asume all controllers are
equal. ????
Advice to other racing sim designers. Ring Papyrus and ask how to make
setting up a controller simple and effective, not to mention making it user
configurable no matter if you use DirectX or Generic . Don't be ashamed,
just ask.
Flame away, it's winter here, I could do with warming up.
Nigel Nichols
I ordered one of the converter boxes today along with the rockfire usb
adapter. Stay tuned for a brief review next week.
DC
David Ciemny <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:pytS8.23268$[email hidden]...
> http://www.thomas-superwheel.com/news.html
>
> scroll down to 6/19/02 read down a bit and they are selling the passthrough
in
ashamed,
