Controller setup - will this work?

After far too long a time away, I've decided to get back into the wonderful world of sim-racing. My current system is running XP Pro. I have an old original model TSW who's wheel is really worn out. The pedals are fine though. What I was thinking was to put DK pots in the TSW pedals and connect the unit via a Rockfire/Radio Shack USB adapter to one USB port. I could then hook up a Logitech Momo wheel as another controller to the other USB port. OK, I know what you're thinking. Just send the wheel back to TSW for repairs or send my pedals in to get them rewired for the Momo. Well, A) I've never tried force feedback so I'm not ever certain I'll like it and B) if I don't like FF then I'd like to get the TSW upgraded to a real Momo wheel, paddle shifters, etc... which would mean the pedals would have to go back a second time to get the original wiring put back. So anyway, would my idea of TSW pedals via an adapter plus a Logitech Momo as a second controller work? I know all the Papy sims support multiple controllers. How about F12002? Any word on GP4? Thanks, Bill

"Bill Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aeqj5r$ich$[email hidden]...

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> > So anyway, would my idea of TSW pedals via an adapter plus a Logitech Momo > as a second controller work? I know all the Papy sims support multiple > controllers. How about F12002? Any word on GP4? > > Thanks, > Bill

F1 2002 definitely supports 2 controllers. I have a BRD Sim Classic wheel and Speed7 pedals connected via USB as one controller and a USB RS Shifter connected as a second one. F1 2002 recognises both controllers. Phil --- Racesim Central Administrator http://www.racesimcentral.com

I took the plunge and snipped the wires to the Momo pedals, then connected them to the pots on my TSW pedal rig. Now my Momo wheel and TSW2 pedals are all on controller 1. I left the clutch on contoller 2 which uses the Rockfire USB adapter. My OS is Windows XP Home. I also spent the extra bucks and got the TE Momo pedal pads. Together with the Momo wheel you can't beat the look - especially when you're sitting in a Ferrari! E-mail me if you want specifics. I don't use the clutch too much so I haven't checked to see if it (controller 2) is recognized in F1-2002 or GP4. I'll mail you tonight and let you know... Regarding the feel of the force feedback from the Momo wheel - it ROCKS. I've tried them all. It's solid and feels great. In F1-2002 you can feel everything. I could never go back to non-force feedback. When I bought the wheel at Best Buy I opted for the 2 year replacement warranty as well in case anything breaks. In my opinion the Momo Wheel/TSW pedal combination (with pads, of course!) is an excellent combination. You won't be disappointed - go ahead and either wire them or get them wired together. Dave Jr and Sr will take care to get everything just right if you opt to send them in. Before I had a true analog clutch they built me a custom clutch rig with an on/off switch that I could move up and down the axis so the clutch engaged where I wanted it to. Recently I sent my pedal rig back in because I was getting "jitters" in my raw data. TE totally refurbed my pedals for free - I paid for the pots, but they put new wiring and springs in and a new plastic cover on the pedals as well. I've always been very impressed with their work. Good luck. I'll get back to you regarding the 2 controller Q. - David Cook "Bill Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aeqj5r$ich$[email hidden]...

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> After far too long a time away, I've decided to get back into the > wonderful world of sim-racing. My current system is running XP Pro. I > have an old original model TSW who's wheel is really worn out. The > pedals are fine though. What I was thinking was to put DK pots in the > TSW pedals and connect the unit via a Rockfire/Radio Shack USB adapter to > one USB port. I could then hook up a Logitech Momo wheel as another > controller to the other USB port. > > OK, I know what you're thinking. Just send the wheel back to TSW for > repairs or send my pedals in to get them rewired for the Momo. Well, > A) I've never tried force feedback so I'm not ever certain I'll like it > and B) if I don't like FF then I'd like to get the TSW upgraded to a > real Momo wheel, paddle shifters, etc... which would mean the pedals > would have to go back a second time to get the original wiring put back. > > So anyway, would my idea of TSW pedals via an adapter plus a Logitech Momo > as a second controller work? I know all the Papy sims support multiple > controllers. How about F12002? Any word on GP4? > > Thanks, > Bill

Wow. You guys are fast! Thanks for the information. There's only one problem. Now I can't wait to get everything!!! -Bill

David, David, David, Not to deny TSW any well-deserved revenue, but why did you "spring for the extra bucks" to buy TSW-sourced MOMO pedal pads when yer MOMO *came* with MOMO pedal pads...that fit almost exactly--no hacksaws, drills, files, blow-torches, or arc welders neccessary. A couple-three washers and they bolt right up! --Steve "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aeqkh6$jd8$[email hidden]... > I took the plunge and snipped the wires to the Momo pedals, then connected > them to the pots on my TSW pedal rig. Now my Momo wheel and TSW2 pedalsare > all on controller 1. I left the clutch on contoller 2 which uses the > Rockfire USB adapter. My OS is Windows XP Home. > > I also spent the extra bucks and got the TE Momo pedal pads. Togetherwith > the Momo wheel you can't beat the look - especially when you're sitting ina > Ferrari! E-mail me if you want specifics. I don't use the clutch toomuch > so I haven't checked to see if it (controller 2) is recognized in F1-2002or > GP4. I'll mail you tonight and let you know... > > Regarding the feel of the force feedback from the Momo wheel - it ROCKS. > I've tried them all. It's solid and feels great. In F1-2002 you can feel > everything. I could never go back to non-force feedback. When I boughtthe > wheel at Best Buy I opted for the 2 year replacement warranty as well in > case anything breaks. > > In my opinion the Momo Wheel/TSW pedal combination (with pads, of course!) > is an excellent combination. You won't be disappointed - go ahead and > either wire them or get them wired together. Dave Jr and Sr will takecare > to get everything just right if you opt to send them in. Before I had a > true analog clutch they built me a custom clutch rig with an on/off switch > that I could move up and down the axis so the clutch engaged where Iwanted > it to. Recently I sent my pedal rig back in because I was getting"jitters" > in my raw data. TE totally refurbed my pedals for free - I paid for the > pots, but they put new wiring and springs in and a new plastic cover onthe

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> pedals as well. I've always been very impressed with their work. > > Good luck. I'll get back to you regarding the 2 controller Q. > > - David Cook > > "Bill Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aeqj5r$ich$[email hidden]... > > After far too long a time away, I've decided to get back into the > > wonderful world of sim-racing. My current system is running XP Pro. I > > have an old original model TSW who's wheel is really worn out. The > > pedals are fine though. What I was thinking was to put DK pots in the > > TSW pedals and connect the unit via a Rockfire/Radio Shack USB adapter

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> > one USB port. I could then hook up a Logitech Momo wheel as another > > controller to the other USB port. > > > > OK, I know what you're thinking. Just send the wheel back to TSW for > > repairs or send my pedals in to get them rewired for the Momo. Well, > > A) I've never tried force feedback so I'm not ever certain I'll like it > > and B) if I don't like FF then I'd like to get the TSW upgraded to a > > real Momo wheel, paddle shifters, etc... which would mean the pedals > > would have to go back a second time to get the original wiring put back. > > > > So anyway, would my idea of TSW pedals via an adapter plus a Logitech

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> > as a second controller work? I know all the Papy sims support multiple > > controllers. How about F12002? Any word on GP4? > > > > Thanks, > > Bill > >

Bill, I sent my new MOMO wheel and old TSW pedals back to TSW and Bill, Jr. did an absolutely fabulous job of mating the two together, no problems, just an incredible feeling of the best FF wheel with sensitive...and, more importantly...controllable pedals. I've been setting new PBs every time out with this combo. Highly recommended. --Steve Smith "Bill Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aeqj5r$ich$[email hidden]...

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> After far too long a time away, I've decided to get back into the > wonderful world of sim-racing. My current system is running XP Pro. I > have an old original model TSW who's wheel is really worn out. The > pedals are fine though. What I was thinking was to put DK pots in the > TSW pedals and connect the unit via a Rockfire/Radio Shack USB adapter to > one USB port. I could then hook up a Logitech Momo wheel as another > controller to the other USB port. > > OK, I know what you're thinking. Just send the wheel back to TSW for > repairs or send my pedals in to get them rewired for the Momo. Well, > A) I've never tried force feedback so I'm not ever certain I'll like it > and B) if I don't like FF then I'd like to get the TSW upgraded to a > real Momo wheel, paddle shifters, etc... which would mean the pedals > would have to go back a second time to get the original wiring put back. > > So anyway, would my idea of TSW pedals via an adapter plus a Logitech Momo > as a second controller work? I know all the Papy sims support multiple > controllers. How about F12002? Any word on GP4? > > Thanks, > Bill

I'm a freak - I dunno!? I really dig the TE Momo pads. The stock Logitech pads are cool for sure, but not as cool as mine ;) Anyways that was a time when the cash flow was doing pretty good... I've drooled many times over that Momo wheel on TE's website wondering how I could connect it to my Logitech Momo rig, hehe. That's extreme - and it'll never happen - but it would be damn cool! - David "Steve Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ck6Q8.33941$[email hidden]...

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> David, David, David, > > Not to deny TSW any well-deserved revenue, but why did you "spring for the > extra bucks" to buy TSW-sourced MOMO pedal pads when yer MOMO *came* with > MOMO pedal pads...that fit almost exactly--no hacksaws, drills, files, > blow-torches, or arc welders neccessary. A couple-three washers and they > bolt right up! > > --Steve > > "David L. Cook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:aeqkh6$jd8$[email hidden]... > > I took the plunge and snipped the wires to the Momo pedals, then

connected > > them to the pots on my TSW pedal rig. Now my Momo wheel and TSW2 pedals

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>On 19 Jun 2002 18:39:55 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill Mette) wrote: > >>ut DK pots in the >>TSW pedals and connect the unit via a Rockfire/Radio Shack USB adapter > >What's a 'rockfire adapter'? > >

"Bill Mette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aeqj5r$ich$[email hidden]... > as a second controller work? I know all the Papy sims support multiple > controllers. How about F12002? Any word on GP4? > > Thanks, > Bill > One thing I know about F1 2002 just from the demo - the Force Feedback is simply AMAZING! This is what FF has been all hyped up to be since it was introduced. They make brilliant use of FF to make you actually feel like you are driving the car. -- --------------------- Rob Berryhill

"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 19 Jun 2002 18:39:55 GMT, [email hidden] (Bill Mette) wrote: > > >ut DK pots in the > >TSW pedals and connect the unit via a Rockfire/Radio Shack USB adapter > > What's a 'rockfire adapter'? It's a 15-Pin D gameport to USB adapter - with preset controller modes such as 2-4 axis 4 buttons, 2 axis 8 buttons, etc. - David Cook