Help: GPL, XP, and Voodoo5

I just upgraded to XP. I have a Voodoo 5. The first (only) thing I installed was GPL. I am not able to run it in Glide mode and was wondering if anyone else had this problem. If so how did you solve it? I have applied the d3d patch but whenever I change it to 3dfx in the UI it asks me to restart the game, then switches back to d3d. D3d isn't so bad, but I am trying to see how Glide works. Can anyone help me? I have downloaded and installed some hacked drivers for the voodoo5 card. I first tired the official 3dfx W2k drivers but they blew up half way through the install, and now I am unable to uninstall them. The hacked drivers didn't seem to mind that the w2k drivers didn't uninstall completely. I am cc the flight sim group as I have a number of flight sims that are glide only and would be really bummed if I couldn't get them to work in XP. Also interested in any other migration to XP tips. I figured out how to get my gameport sidewinder wheel installed. XP comes with native support, but setup is not very intuitive. Although the 2d portion of the V5 worked with native support, I couldn't figure out how to make the 3d work without the hacked drivers. Thanks for any help! SC

With the original Windows 2000 Pro drivers for the Voodoo5 run the install and it should bomb out a few times - click 'ignore' for the errors. Reboot and rerun the install. Select to Repair the drivers. This should now allow you to see the 3dfx tools down the bottom right. With GPL I haven't got it but in for Falcon 4.0 Realism Patch 5 (ie. the 1.08i2 .exe file running in Glide) run it in Windows 98/ME Compatibility Mode.by right clicking on the shortcut to the .exe, selecting Compatibility and enabling it. Also make sure you've got the latest Windows XP patches and critical updates. Marco "Steve Canyon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ad4kde$ub73p$[email hidden]... > I just upgraded to XP. I have a Voodoo 5. The first (only) thing Iinstalled

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> was GPL. I am not able to run it in Glide mode and was wondering if anyone > else had this problem. If so how did you solve it? > > I have applied the d3d patch but whenever I change it to 3dfx in the UI it > asks me to restart the game, then switches back to d3d. D3d isn't so bad, > but I am trying to see how Glide works. Can anyone help me? > > I have downloaded and installed some hacked drivers for the voodoo5 card.

I > first tired the official 3dfx W2k drivers but they blew up half waythrough > the install, and now I am unable to uninstall them. The hacked drivers > didn't seem to mind that the w2k drivers didn't uninstall completely. > > I am cc the flight sim group as I have a number of flight sims that are > glide only and would be really bummed if I couldn't get them to work inXP. > > Also interested in any other migration to XP tips. I figured out how toget

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> my gameport sidewinder wheel installed. XP comes with native support, but > setup is not very intuitive. Although the 2d portion of the V5 worked with > native support, I couldn't figure out how to make the 3d work without the > hacked drivers. > > Thanks for any help! > > SC > >

Steve, Here are some drivers that may work http://www.falconfly.de/vsa100.htm or if they fail to work correctly, do a Google Group search of the 3dfx.products.voodoo5 newsgroup. Glenn

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> > I just upgraded to XP. I have a Voodoo 5. The first (only) thing I installed > was GPL. I am not able to run it in Glide mode and was wondering if anyone > else had this problem. If so how did you solve it? > > I have applied the d3d patch but whenever I change it to 3dfx in the UI it > asks me to restart the game, then switches back to d3d. D3d isn't so bad, > but I am trying to see how Glide works. Can anyone help me? > > I have downloaded and installed some hacked drivers for the voodoo5 card. I > first tired the official 3dfx W2k drivers but they blew up half way through > the install, and now I am unable to uninstall them. The hacked drivers > didn't seem to mind that the w2k drivers didn't uninstall completely. > > I am cc the flight sim group as I have a number of flight sims that are > glide only and would be really bummed if I couldn't get them to work in XP. > > Also interested in any other migration to XP tips. I figured out how to get > my gameport sidewinder wheel installed. XP comes with native support, but > setup is not very intuitive. Although the 2d portion of the V5 worked with > native support, I couldn't figure out how to make the 3d work without the > hacked drivers.

I'm currently using 3 different drivers on my 3 PC's equipped with V5 cards, and they perform about the same for what little gaming I have time for these days, I'd start out with the drivers from this place.... http://www.x3dfx.com/ If those doesn't work, go here for a few others http://www.voodoofiles.com/ I've messed around with 4 or 5 different drivers for my V5's and I've seen very little difference from one to the next, neither in performance (3DMark2001) nor quality I have not tried GPL under XP, and my N2002 is sporting some Gfx anomalies which I'll live with until I get my new card Wolfenstein, Medal of Honor, N2002, GTA3, Destroyer Command, Max Payne and a few other games have played rather well, in some cases (I forget which) I have had to use the "Compatibility Mode" option Big thx goes out to the 3Dfx community once again for putting in the effort to keep our cards running a little while longer Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" --Groucho Marx--

Others have already responded to the Glide mode, so I'll tackle the game port SideWinder wheel. Basically, Windows XP has limited native support for game port controllers. This means, you get "basics" and that's all. The 3.x drivers which originally came with SideWinder controllers do not function under Windows XP because they need a .vxd format, and that is no longer supported. Microsoft chose the route to fully support the newer USB devices because most game port controllers are four or five years old now, and not even supported by their manufacturers any longer. The controller industry has moved into USB devices. You mentioned you upgraded to Windows XP. If this was an upgrade installation over an existing Win9x platform, I highly suggest you take the time to do a clean install. You'll see a world of difference in the performance when you rid yourself of the problem areas of Win9x. Remember, you can use a Windows XP upgrade CD on a clean install, as long as you have the qualifying media for the Win9x product. It will ask for the verifying media, you slip in the Win9x CD, it'll say "fine," and tell you to insert the Windows XP CD again. -- Chris H. "Steve Canyon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ad4kde$ub73p$[email hidden]... > I just upgraded to XP. I have a Voodoo 5. The first (only) thing I installed > was GPL. I am not able to run it in Glide mode and was wondering if anyone > else had this problem. If so how did you solve it? > > I have applied the d3d patch but whenever I change it to 3dfx in the UI it > asks me to restart the game, then switches back to d3d. D3d isn't so bad, > but I am trying to see how Glide works. Can anyone help me? > > I have downloaded and installed some hacked drivers for the voodoo5 card. I > first tired the official 3dfx W2k drivers but they blew up half way through > the install, and now I am unable to uninstall them. The hacked drivers > didn't seem to mind that the w2k drivers didn't uninstall completely. > > I am cc the flight sim group as I have a number of flight sims that are > glide only and would be really bummed if I couldn't get them to work in XP. > > Also interested in any other migration to XP tips. I figured out how to get > my gameport sidewinder wheel installed. XP comes with native support, but > setup is not very intuitive. Although the 2d portion of the V5 worked with > native support, I couldn't figure out how to make the 3d work without the > hacked drivers. > > Thanks for any help! > > SC > > >

Thanks Marco. I will try it again until it works. If nothing else a complete install will at least allow me to uninstall and keep my new XP clean. "Marco Formato" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:vomJ8.197434$[email hidden]... > With the original Windows 2000 Pro drivers for the Voodoo5 run the install > and it should bomb out a few times - click 'ignore' for the errors.Reboot > and rerun the install. Select to Repair the drivers. This should nowallow > you to see the 3dfx tools down the bottom right. > > With GPL I haven't got it but in for Falcon 4.0 Realism Patch 5 (ie. the > 1.08i2 .exe file running in Glide) run it in Windows 98/ME Compatibility > Mode.by right clicking on the shortcut to the .exe, selectingCompatibility

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> and enabling it. Also make sure you've got the latest Windows XP patches > and critical updates. > > Marco > > "Steve Canyon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ad4kde$ub73p$[email hidden]... > > I just upgraded to XP. I have a Voodoo 5. The first (only) thing I > installed > > was GPL. I am not able to run it in Glide mode and was wondering if

anyone > > else had this problem. If so how did you solve it? > > > > I have applied the d3d patch but whenever I change it to 3dfx in the UIit > > asks me to restart the game, then switches back to d3d. D3d isn't sobad, > > but I am trying to see how Glide works. Can anyone help me? > > > > I have downloaded and installed some hacked drivers for the voodoo5card.

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> I > > first tired the official 3dfx W2k drivers but they blew up half way > through > > the install, and now I am unable to uninstall them. The hacked drivers > > didn't seem to mind that the w2k drivers didn't uninstall completely. > > > > I am cc the flight sim group as I have a number of flight sims that are > > glide only and would be really bummed if I couldn't get them to work in > XP. > > > > Also interested in any other migration to XP tips. I figured out how to > get > > my gameport sidewinder wheel installed. XP comes with native support,

but > > setup is not very intuitive. Although the 2d portion of the V5 workedwith > > native support, I couldn't figure out how to make the 3d work withoutthe

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> > hacked drivers. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > SC > > > > > >

Thanks Goy. I see that there is no end to XP driver packages and that's very cool. Thanks for the reminder about compatibility mode. "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Steve Canyon wrote: > > > > I just upgraded to XP. I have a Voodoo 5. The first (only) thing Iinstalled > > was GPL. I am not able to run it in Glide mode and was wondering ifanyone > > else had this problem. If so how did you solve it? > > > > I have applied the d3d patch but whenever I change it to 3dfx in the UIit > > asks me to restart the game, then switches back to d3d. D3d isn't sobad, > > but I am trying to see how Glide works. Can anyone help me? > > > > I have downloaded and installed some hacked drivers for the voodoo5card. I > > first tired the official 3dfx W2k drivers but they blew up half waythrough > > the install, and now I am unable to uninstall them. The hacked drivers > > didn't seem to mind that the w2k drivers didn't uninstall completely. > > > > I am cc the flight sim group as I have a number of flight sims that are > > glide only and would be really bummed if I couldn't get them to work inXP. > > > > Also interested in any other migration to XP tips. I figured out how toget > > my gameport sidewinder wheel installed. XP comes with native support,but > > setup is not very intuitive. Although the 2d portion of the V5 workedwith > > native support, I couldn't figure out how to make the 3d work withoutthe

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> > hacked drivers. > > I'm currently using 3 different drivers on my 3 PC's equipped with V5 > cards, and they perform about the same for what little gaming I have > time for these days, I'd start out with the drivers from this place.... > http://www.x3dfx.com/ > > If those doesn't work, go here for a few others > http://www.voodoofiles.com/ > > I've messed around with 4 or 5 different drivers for my V5's and I've > seen very little difference from one to the next, neither in performance > (3DMark2001) nor quality > > I have not tried GPL under XP, and my N2002 is sporting some Gfx > anomalies which I'll live with until I get my new card > > Wolfenstein, Medal of Honor, N2002, GTA3, Destroyer Command, Max Payne > and a few other games have played rather well, in some cases (I forget > which) I have had to use the "Compatibility Mode" option > > Big thx goes out to the 3Dfx community once again for putting in the > effort to keep our cards running a little while longer > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels" > --Groucho Marx--

I'm glad my old wheel is still supported! I can't imagine getting rid of it before it dies. It seems to have a funky calibration routine (hard to describe the problem) but other than that it works fine. I did install a fresh copy of XP--thanks for the tip on how to use the upgrade cd. "Chris H." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CToJ8.69903$[email hidden]... > Others have already responded to the Glide mode, so I'll tackle the game > port SideWinder wheel. Basically, Windows XP has limited native supportfor > game port controllers. This means, you get "basics" and that's all. The > 3.x drivers which originally came with SideWinder controllers do not > function under Windows XP because they need a .vxd format, and that is no > longer supported. Microsoft chose the route to fully support the newerUSB > devices because most game port controllers are four or five years old now, > and not even supported by their manufacturers any longer. The controller > industry has moved into USB devices. > > You mentioned you upgraded to Windows XP. If this was an upgrade > installation over an existing Win9x platform, I highly suggest you takethe > time to do a clean install. You'll see a world of difference in the > performance when you rid yourself of the problem areas of Win9x.Remember, > you can use a Windows XP upgrade CD on a clean install, as long as youhave

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> the qualifying media for the Win9x product. It will ask for the verifying > media, you slip in the Win9x CD, it'll say "fine," and tell you to insert > the Windows XP CD again. > -- > Chris H. > > "Steve Canyon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ad4kde$ub73p$[email hidden]... > > I just upgraded to XP. I have a Voodoo 5. The first (only) thing I > installed > > was GPL. I am not able to run it in Glide mode and was wondering if

anyone > > else had this problem. If so how did you solve it? > > > > I have applied the d3d patch but whenever I change it to 3dfx in the UIit > > asks me to restart the game, then switches back to d3d. D3d isn't sobad, > > but I am trying to see how Glide works. Can anyone help me? > > > > I have downloaded and installed some hacked drivers for the voodoo5card.

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> I > > first tired the official 3dfx W2k drivers but they blew up half way > through > > the install, and now I am unable to uninstall them. The hacked drivers > > didn't seem to mind that the w2k drivers didn't uninstall completely. > > > > I am cc the flight sim group as I have a number of flight sims that are > > glide only and would be really bummed if I couldn't get them to work in > XP. > > > > Also interested in any other migration to XP tips. I figured out how to > get > > my gameport sidewinder wheel installed. XP comes with native support,

but > > setup is not very intuitive. Although the 2d portion of the V5 workedwith > > native support, I couldn't figure out how to make the 3d work withoutthe

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> > hacked drivers. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > SC > > > > > > > >

'Nother cool thing about Windows XP - Take a look at the Files and Settings Transfer Wizard in Help and Support. You can pick and choose which files to save on another drive, a different computer on a LAN or to CD. I use it to cover my tail when it get GPL and F1 2001 "just right." If I need to reformat, all my settings are restored on the games like I never wiped the partition. -- Chris H. "Steve Canyon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ad5cuc$u646a$[email hidden]... > I'm glad my old wheel is still supported! I can't imagine getting rid of it > before it dies. It seems to have a funky calibration routine (hard to > describe the problem) but other than that it works fine. I did install a > fresh copy of XP--thanks for the tip on how to use the upgrade cd. > > > "Chris H." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CToJ8.69903$[email hidden]... > > Others have already responded to the Glide mode, so I'll tackle the game > > port SideWinder wheel. Basically, Windows XP has limited native support > for > > game port controllers. This means, you get "basics" and that's all. The > > 3.x drivers which originally came with SideWinder controllers do not > > function under Windows XP because they need a .vxd format, and that is no > > longer supported. Microsoft chose the route to fully support the newer > USB > > devices because most game port controllers are four or five years old now, > > and not even supported by their manufacturers any longer. The controller > > industry has moved into USB devices. > > > > You mentioned you upgraded to Windows XP. If this was an upgrade > > installation over an existing Win9x platform, I highly suggest you take > the > > time to do a clean install. You'll see a world of difference in the > > performance when you rid yourself of the problem areas of Win9x. > Remember, > > you can use a Windows XP upgrade CD on a clean install, as long as you > have > > the qualifying media for the Win9x product. It will ask for the verifying > > media, you slip in the Win9x CD, it'll say "fine," and tell you to insert > > the Windows XP CD again. > > -- > > Chris H. > > > > "Steve Canyon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:ad4kde$ub73p$[email hidden]... > > > I just upgraded to XP. I have a Voodoo 5. The first (only) thing I > > installed > > > was GPL. I am not able to run it in Glide mode and was wondering if > anyone > > > else had this problem. If so how did you solve it? > > > > > > I have applied the d3d patch but whenever I change it to 3dfx in the UI > it > > > asks me to restart the game, then switches back to d3d. D3d isn't so > bad, > > > but I am trying to see how Glide works. Can anyone help me? > > > > > > I have downloaded and installed some hacked drivers for the voodoo5 > card. > > I > > > first tired the official 3dfx W2k drivers but they blew up half way > > through > > > the install, and now I am unable to uninstall them. The hacked drivers > > > didn't seem to mind that the w2k drivers didn't uninstall completely. > > > > > > I am cc the flight sim group as I have a number of flight sims that are > > > glide only and would be really bummed if I couldn't get them to work in > > XP. > > > > > > Also interested in any other migration to XP tips. I figured out how to > > get > > > my gameport sidewinder wheel installed. XP comes with native support, > but > > > setup is not very intuitive. Although the 2d portion of the V5 worked > with > > > native support, I couldn't figure out how to make the 3d work without > the > > > hacked drivers. > > > > > > Thanks for any help! > > > > > > SC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >