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OT: Episode 2

16 posts by 14 people · 16 May 2002 15:34 UTC - 17 May 2002 23:58 UTC

Colin Reed 16 May 2002 15:34 UTC#119832
Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night and it rocks, enjoy people ... Colin
Hey Colin, you should be working on the sim instead of wasting your time on such trivial things! (says Gregor who is jealous as the films here in Italy are dubbed and he can't quite understand them yet ;) ) -Gregor On 16 May 2002, Colin Reed wrote: > Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night and it > rocks, enjoy people ... > > Colin >
"Colin Reed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night and it > rocks, enjoy people ... >Is Jar-Jar Wanks in it again ? If so, count me out. CGI muppets = shit
redTed 16 May 2002 19:58 UTC#529281
Is Jar-Jar ***s in it again ? If so, count me out. CGI muppets = shit
He is in the movie, for only a tiny bit, but he is a lot better this time, also Yoda is a CGI muppet, but he RULES, so your equation is wrong. -Stuart Becktell "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ac12vn$lst00$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> > "Colin Reed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night and it > > rocks, enjoy people ... > > > Is Jar-Jar Wanks in it again ? If so, count me out. > CGI muppets = shit > >
"Stuart Becktell" <[email hidden]> wrote > He is in the movie, for only a tiny bit, but he is a lot better this time, > also Yoda is a CGI muppet, but he RULES, so your equation is wrong. Indeed. I made this note to some friends before reviews started coming out saying the same. Yoda and some of the other CGI characters outperform the actors when it comes to... acting. How's that for underachieving. -- Frode
> Indeed. I made this note to some friends before reviews started coming > out saying the same. Yoda and some of the other CGI characters > outperform the actors when it comes to... acting. How's that for > underachieving. Every character on the screen - CGI or not - is the result of human creativity. They based Yoda on the original puppet, which was operated by a Person. They probably used some People to flesh out some of his facial expressions. Then the character was animated on a computer operated by a Person. Then the voice (a Person's voice) was used to make him speak. (And of course the CGI software was written by People). All this chest-beating about how CGI is going to replace people is just crap. The computer is just the TOOL. ALL the creativity behind the CGI character is completely human, and will be for the foreseeable future. I'm sure a lot of actors who rely purely on appearance are feeling threatened right now, but the ones with creativity and talent will just expand into this new arena.
ymenard 16 May 2002 23:29 UTC↳ reply to redTed#119692
>"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote > Is Jar-Jar Wanks in it again ? If so, count me out. > CGI muppets = shit How can a CGI be a moppets? <yawn> -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
Takin' my boys tomorrow night. Can't wait! "Colin Reed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night and it > rocks, enjoy people ... > > Colin
"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ChXE8.19582$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> >"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Is Jar-Jar Wanks in it again ? If so, count me out. > > CGI muppets = shit > > How can a CGI be a moppets? > > <yawn>
They style the cgi to maintain the 'look' of the old foam rubber muppets...So they don't suddenly have a yoda with fully aticulated lips etcs..he still has the sense of the puppet motions...or so I've been told...won't get a chance to see it for a few days... dave henrie
"Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:r2XE8.18469$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > Indeed. I made this note to some friends before reviews started coming > > out saying the same. Yoda and some of the other CGI characters > > outperform the actors when it comes to... acting. How's that for > > underachieving. > > Every character on the screen - CGI or not - is the result of human > creativity. They based Yoda on the original puppet, which was operated by
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Quoted text (11 lines)> Person. They probably used some People to flesh out some of his facial > expressions. Then the character was animated on a computer operated by a > Person. Then the voice (a Person's voice) was used to make him speak. (And > of course the CGI software was written by People). > > All this chest-beating about how CGI is going to replace people is just > crap. The computer is just the TOOL. ALL the creativity behind the CGI > character is completely human, and will be for the foreseeable future. I'm > sure a lot of actors who rely purely on appearance are feeling threatened > right now, but the ones with creativity and talent will just expand into > this new arena.
And what a tool it is. Is there really any other way you could have Yoda move around like he did before this one? It's just soooo awesome, lol...and then he picks right back up with the fake limp, lol... Milhouse
Rocks? I've never seen such a pile of shit. Two and a half hours of absolute drudgery with embarrassing dialogue, a chemistry-less teen love interest and a new and ridiculous cast of muppets. I couldn't wait for it to end. I would have walked out, but I didn't want to offend my friends who had bought my ticket (though I did anyway by telling them what I thought). 'Clones' is to action/sci-fi what 'Rocket Robin Hood' was to animation... I'm beginning to think that this generation of TV/filmgoers is simply incapabale of distinguising between quality and nonsene anymore. When I went to opening night of 'Star Wars' in '77, the whole audience was buzzing and the atmosphere was electric. When they blew the Death Star a roar went up from the crowd and the noise and excitement leaving the theatre was incredible. Leaving the opening of 'Clones' last night was like filing out of a wake. If you get a chance to see this picture, for God's sake don't do it. Simon "Colin Reed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night andit > rocks, enjoy people ... > > Colin
On Fri, 17 May 2002 10:45:24 -0400, "Simon Goodwin" <[email hidden]> wrote: When >I went to opening night of 'Star Wars' in '77, the whole audience was >buzzing Could it have been that YOU have changed in the interveaning 25 years? And that your average 7 to 15 year old boy nowadays will think this is great? I like StarWars to take me back to being 8 and not expect it to aim itself at the 32 year old me. Regards Mike
On Fri, 17 May 2002 10:45:24 -0400, "Simon Goodwin" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Rocks? I've never seen such a pile of shit. Two and a half hours of >absolute drudgery with embarrassing dialogue, a chemistry-less teen Hmm... I read a couple of reviews now and most of them were quite positive, especially when comparing E2 to the disgracefull E1.. Anyway, to get you in a better mood again, download and watch this one http://www.theforce.net/theater/shortfilms/troops/ Andre
"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > On Fri, 17 May 2002 10:45:24 -0400, "Simon Goodwin" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Rocks? I've never seen such a pile of shit. Two and a half hours of > >absolute drudgery with embarrassing dialogue, a chemistry-less teen > Hmm... I read a couple of reviews now and most of them were quite > positive, especially when comparing E2 to the disgracefull E1.. The reviews I've seen so far have been about 60% "geez, utter crap, Lucas should retire", 20% "well... It's better than ep1, but it's still mediocre at best" and the last 20% "Redeems the SW saga! Finally the prequel ep1 should have been!". I fall into the first 20% there, btw (not that I'm a reviewer). -- Frode
"Colin Reed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry about this being way off base, but just saw it last night and it > rocks, enjoy people ... > > Colin ITS AWESOME :) Ash

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