This might be of some interest to you folks here -- I have a mint copy
of MBWR on PC CD-ROM listed on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8262871610
Bidding ends Wednesday, March 1st.
-- John Bodin
Mercedes-Benz World Racing sale prompts shipping cost spat
A seller advertised a PC copy of Mercedes-Benz World Racing on eBay. Alan Bernardo criticised the shipping charge, leading to an argument about Priority Mail costs and honesty, with some jokes. Others noted the PC version was not sold in US stores but could be bought from Germany.
for sale/tradeMercedes-Benz World Racing
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"jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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You're charging $5.50 for shipping, USPS?
You ever made an info-mertial?
I'll pass.
Alanb
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| This might be of some interest to you folks here -- I have a mint copy | of MBWR on PC CD-ROM listed on ebay: | | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8262871610 | | Bidding ends Wednesday, March 1st. | | -- John Bodin |Ah, how refreshing -- an uninformed, opinionated, know-nothing troll
who brings nothing of value to the discussion.
Allow me to educate you a bit:
Priority Mail for a package this size is typically $3.50, and I always
ship using delivery confirmation to protect all parties involved, which
usually brings the shipping costs up to around $4.20. Add in the cost
for the box and tape, plus my time to box it up, plus the time it takes
at the post office to ship the package, plus the typical PayPal fees,
and I usually end up LOSING money on the "shipping" end of things. If
you can do it for less, then bully for you.
And, on those rare occasions where the shipping costs are significantly
LESS than my advertised price, I often offer to refund the difference
to the buyer -- which is exactly what I offered to do for the person in
the UK who recently bought my copy of Mercedes-Benz Truck Racing that I
had posted on ebay. Interestingly enough, the buyer chose not to take
me up on my offer, which indicates that he was pretty satisfied with
what I charged.
Look at my ebay feedback -- 100% positive feedback, no complaints.
Apparently a lot of folks have no problem with my shipping fees, so why
is it any concern of yours?
Now, go learn some Internet etiquette . . . and while you're at it,
learn to spell -- it's "infomercial," as in "information" +
"commercial."
I really didn't expect you to say, yes, my shipping cost is a bit high.
I still don't believe, no matter what facts of your own you provide, that it
costs 5.50 to mail something as tiny as a PC game.
But good luck on your sale-- maybe you can get some chips and fancy dip once
the cash comes in.
And thanks on that spelling. I knew I had it wrong but let it go as is. I
always appreciate when someone lets me know about a spelling error
(seriously).
Alanb
I have three raspberry ruffles for sale. Four if you can consider two
empty but nonetheless smashing wrappers to constitute one whole
raspberry ruffle. Fourpence for the lot, four pounds shipping via her
Majesty's purveyors.
Alan,
Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use
Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the
shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that
they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is
no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an
inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and
that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right --
my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and
as I said, I do often refund the difference.
Whoa -- I loves me some raspberry ruffles! Could you post them on ebay
and charge me an outrageous amount for shipping, too?
;-)
You're getting very American on me JB.
I fear lawsuits lurking if the raspberry ruffles in question fail to
assuage your desires.
Isn't MBWR still available in local stores?
"jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No big deal. I'm curious to know why you are selling this game, or is it
just one of a number of games you are selling. I mean, ten bucks isn't
going to get you much.
But then if you sell 100 items, inflate those shipping costs a bit, you
could make over $200. In the grand scheme of things, however, I could care
less. I'm not buying your game and if someone wants to (with shipping),
that's good for you and the buyer. That's what it's all about.
Alanb
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| Alan, | | Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use | Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the | shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that | they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is | no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an | inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and | that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- | my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and | as I said, I do often refund the difference. |I don't think MBWR for the PC was ever released in the states -- I
could be wrong, but my version is an import version, and I've never
seen it in stores hereabouts.
> I don't think MBWR for the PC was ever released in the states -- I
> could be wrong, but my version is an import version, and I've never
> seen it in stores hereabouts.
I bought my copy from http://www.gogamer.com , but they no longer carry it.
Here's a link to stores that still sell it in the USA:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000859TN/102-3959991-3199341?v=glance
I made some videos a long time ago.
http://jeffareid.net/wr1/wr1c14.wmv
http://jeffareid.net/wr1/wr1nv5.wmv
> Here's a link to stores that still sell it in the USA:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000859TN/102-3959991-3199341?v=glance
Oops, that's the XBOX version, sorry.
Computer Universe still carries MBWR, but they are located
in Germany. I've purchased GTR and GTLegends from them in the
past.
http://www.computeruniverse.net/default.asp
Computer Universe has the German version for 10 Euro, which is about
$12, plus shipping.
Jeff Reid wrote:
> > Here's a link to stores that still sell it in the USA:
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000859TN/102-3959991-3199341?v=glance
>
> Oops, that's the XBOX version, sorry.
As I said, I don't think MBWR for the PC was ever released in the
states.
> As I said, I don't think MBWR for the PC was ever released in the
> states.
True, but when it was first released, www.gogamer.com, a US online
retailer was selling it.
Alan Bernardo wrote:
That's commerce, Alan, that's the internet. Great to see you are still
one of the biggest ****s on this group! Did you ever manage to drive a
whole lap of Monza with GLP?
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> "jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | Alan, > | > | Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use > | Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the > | shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that > | they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is > | no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an > | inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and > | that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- > | my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and > | as I said, I do often refund the difference. > | > > No big deal. I'm curious to know why you are selling this game, or is it > just one of a number of games you are selling. I mean, ten bucks isn't > going to get you much. > > But then if you sell 100 items, inflate those shipping costs a bit, you > could make over $200. In the grand scheme of things, however, I could care > less. I'm not buying your game and if someone wants to (with shipping), > that's good for you and the buyer. That's what it's all about. > > Alanb > > >
"muffled titter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| > just one of a number of games you are selling. I mean, ten bucks isn't
| > going to get you much.
| >
| > But then if you sell 100 items, inflate those shipping costs a bit, you
| > could make over $200. In the grand scheme of things, however, I could care
Overcharging for shipping and doing other dishonest things to get money (not
saying the original poster was doing all this), is not commerce, it's fraud.
It's nice to see you've come to this group, nameless, attacking character,
and transposing letters.
The GPL reference (even if you got it wrong) is not a surprising one, since
a very decent number of GPL racers are a pompous group, always claiming an
elite status.
I claim someone is over-charging for shipping and you call it commerce.
That's your opinion (albeit rather an odd one). I guess you don't allow
people to have opinions, unless they agree with your own?
Alanb
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| Alan Bernardo wrote: | > "jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > | Alan, | > | | > | Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use | > | Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the | > | shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that | > | they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is | > | no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an | > | inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and | > | that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- | > | my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and | > | as I said, I do often refund the difference. | > | | > | > No big deal. I'm curious to know why you are selling this game, or isQuoted text (10 lines)
| > less. I'm not buying your game and if someone wants to (with shipping), | > that's good for you and the buyer. That's what it's all about. | > | > Alanb | > | > | > | That's commerce, Alan, that's the internet. Great to see you are still | one of the biggest ****s on this group! Did you ever manage to drive a | whole lap of Monza with GLP?Alan Bernardo wrote:
He's not forcing anyone to buy it. Buyer beware!
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> "muffled titter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Ej3Mf.18201$[email hidden]... > | Alan Bernardo wrote: > | > "jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:[email hidden]... > | > | Alan, > | > | > | > | Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use > | > | Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the > | > | shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that > | > | they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is > | > | no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an > | > | inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and > | > | that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- > | > | my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and > | > | as I said, I do often refund the difference. > | > | > | > > | > No big deal. I'm curious to know why you are selling this game, or is > it > | > just one of a number of games you are selling. I mean, ten bucks isn't > | > going to get you much. > | > > | > But then if you sell 100 items, inflate those shipping costs a bit, you > | > could make over $200. In the grand scheme of things, however, I could > care > | > less. I'm not buying your game and if someone wants to (with shipping), > | > that's good for you and the buyer. That's what it's all about. > | > > | > Alanb > | > > | > > | > > | That's commerce, Alan, that's the internet. Great to see you are still > | one of the biggest ****s on this group! Did you ever manage to drive a > | whole lap of Monza with GLP? > > Overcharging for shipping and doing other dishonest things to get money (not > saying the original poster was doing all this), is not commerce, it's fraud. > > It's nice to see you've come to this group, nameless, attacking character, > and transposing letters. > > The GPL reference (even if you got it wrong) is not a surprising one, since > a very decent number of GPL racers are a pompous group, always claiming an > elite status. > > I claim someone is over-charging for shipping and you call it commerce. > That's your opinion (albeit rather an odd one). I guess you don't allow > people to have opinions, unless they agree with your own? > > Alanb > >| >
| He's not forcing anyone to buy it. Buyer beware!
I can see I'm wasting my time. Nice argument, which goes something like
this: I steal something (or get it dishonestly), and put it up for sale.
And since I'm not forcing anyone to buy this piece of merchandise (or
whatever it is), it's perfectly fine how I got it or how I plan to
distribute it or what I charge.
That's why gasoline companies can charge whatever they want for gas,
irregardless of market prices. After all, they're not forcing anyone to buy
it.
(BTW, I'm curious, what the heck is "Buyer beware!" supposed to mean.)
Alanb
Alan Bernardo wrote:
I'm okay with you having a problem with my shipping rates, Alan, but
you're not implying that I stole my copy of MBWR, or came by it
dishonestly, are you?
???
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> | > > | He's not forcing anyone to buy it. Buyer beware! > > I can see I'm wasting my time. Nice argument, which goes something like > this: I steal something (or get it dishonestly), and put it up for sale. > And since I'm not forcing anyone to buy this piece of merchandise (or > whatever it is), it's perfectly fine how I got it or how I plan to > distribute it or what I charge. > > That's why gasoline companies can charge whatever they want for gas, > irregardless of market prices. After all, they're not forcing anyone to buy > it. > > (BTW, I'm curious, what the heck is "Buyer beware!" supposed to mean.) > > Alanb
"jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No, of course not. I was only commenting on the other poster, who said that
it doesn't much matter how a seller came to piece of merchandise, as long as
that person wasn't forcing others to purchase it.
Alanb
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| | Alan Bernardo wrote: | > | > | > | He's not forcing anyone to buy it. Buyer beware! | > | > I can see I'm wasting my time. Nice argument, which goes something like | > this: I steal something (or get it dishonestly), and put it up for sale. | > And since I'm not forcing anyone to buy this piece of merchandise (or | > whatever it is), it's perfectly fine how I got it or how I plan to | > distribute it or what I charge. | > | > That's why gasoline companies can charge whatever they want for gas, | > irregardless of market prices. After all, they're not forcing anyone toQuoted text (12 lines)
| > it. | > | > (BTW, I'm curious, what the heck is "Buyer beware!" supposed to mean.) | > | > Alanb | | I'm okay with you having a problem with my shipping rates, Alan, but | you're not implying that I stole my copy of MBWR, or came by it | dishonestly, are you? | | ??? |Oh, okay then -- no problem. Thanks for clearing that up!
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