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Mercedes-Benz World Racing (PC) - for sale

24 posts by 5 people · 24 Feb 2006 23:20 UTC - 26 Feb 2006 06:12 UTC

Mercedes-Benz World Racing sale prompts shipping cost spat

A seller advertised a PC copy of Mercedes-Benz World Racing on eBay. Alan Bernardo criticised the shipping charge, leading to an argument about Priority Mail costs and honesty, with some jokes. Others noted the PC version was not sold in US stores but could be bought from Germany.

for sale/tradeMercedes-Benz World Racing

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Ah, how refreshing -- an uninformed, opinionated, know-nothing troll who brings nothing of value to the discussion. Allow me to educate you a bit: Priority Mail for a package this size is typically $3.50, and I always ship using delivery confirmation to protect all parties involved, which usually brings the shipping costs up to around $4.20. Add in the cost for the box and tape, plus my time to box it up, plus the time it takes at the post office to ship the package, plus the typical PayPal fees, and I usually end up LOSING money on the "shipping" end of things. If you can do it for less, then bully for you. And, on those rare occasions where the shipping costs are significantly LESS than my advertised price, I often offer to refund the difference to the buyer -- which is exactly what I offered to do for the person in the UK who recently bought my copy of Mercedes-Benz Truck Racing that I had posted on ebay. Interestingly enough, the buyer chose not to take me up on my offer, which indicates that he was pretty satisfied with what I charged. Look at my ebay feedback -- 100% positive feedback, no complaints. Apparently a lot of folks have no problem with my shipping fees, so why is it any concern of yours? Now, go learn some Internet etiquette . . . and while you're at it, learn to spell -- it's "infomercial," as in "information" + "commercial."
I really didn't expect you to say, yes, my shipping cost is a bit high. I still don't believe, no matter what facts of your own you provide, that it costs 5.50 to mail something as tiny as a PC game. But good luck on your sale-- maybe you can get some chips and fancy dip once the cash comes in. And thanks on that spelling. I knew I had it wrong but let it go as is. I always appreciate when someone lets me know about a spelling error (seriously). Alanb
I have three raspberry ruffles for sale. Four if you can consider two empty but nonetheless smashing wrappers to constitute one whole raspberry ruffle. Fourpence for the lot, four pounds shipping via her Majesty's purveyors.
Alan, Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and as I said, I do often refund the difference.
jbodin 25 Feb 2006 01:26 UTC↳ reply to Ludwig#12916
Whoa -- I loves me some raspberry ruffles! Could you post them on ebay and charge me an outrageous amount for shipping, too? ;-)
Ludwig 25 Feb 2006 01:30 UTC↳ reply to jbodin#12918
You're getting very American on me JB. I fear lawsuits lurking if the raspberry ruffles in question fail to assuage your desires.
"jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (12 lines)| Alan, | | Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use | Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the | shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that | they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is | no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an | inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and | that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- | my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and | as I said, I do often refund the difference. |
No big deal. I'm curious to know why you are selling this game, or is it just one of a number of games you are selling. I mean, ten bucks isn't going to get you much. But then if you sell 100 items, inflate those shipping costs a bit, you could make over $200. In the grand scheme of things, however, I could care less. I'm not buying your game and if someone wants to (with shipping), that's good for you and the buyer. That's what it's all about. Alanb
I don't think MBWR for the PC was ever released in the states -- I could be wrong, but my version is an import version, and I've never seen it in stores hereabouts.
> I don't think MBWR for the PC was ever released in the states -- I > could be wrong, but my version is an import version, and I've never > seen it in stores hereabouts. I bought my copy from http://www.gogamer.com , but they no longer carry it. Here's a link to stores that still sell it in the USA: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000859TN/102-3959991-3199341?v=glance I made some videos a long time ago. http://jeffareid.net/wr1/wr1c14.wmv http://jeffareid.net/wr1/wr1nv5.wmv
Alan Bernardo wrote:
Quoted text (28 lines)> "jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > | Alan, > | > | Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use > | Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the > | shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that > | they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is > | no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an > | inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and > | that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- > | my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and > | as I said, I do often refund the difference. > | > > No big deal. I'm curious to know why you are selling this game, or is it > just one of a number of games you are selling. I mean, ten bucks isn't > going to get you much. > > But then if you sell 100 items, inflate those shipping costs a bit, you > could make over $200. In the grand scheme of things, however, I could care > less. I'm not buying your game and if someone wants to (with shipping), > that's good for you and the buyer. That's what it's all about. > > Alanb > > >
That's commerce, Alan, that's the internet. Great to see you are still one of the biggest ****s on this group! Did you ever manage to drive a whole lap of Monza with GLP?
"muffled titter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ej3Mf.18201$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)| Alan Bernardo wrote: | > "jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | > news:[email hidden]... | > | Alan, | > | | > | Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use | > | Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the | > | shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that | > | they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is | > | no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an | > | inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and | > | that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- | > | my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and | > | as I said, I do often refund the difference. | > | | > | > No big deal. I'm curious to know why you are selling this game, or is
it | > just one of a number of games you are selling. I mean, ten bucks isn't | > going to get you much. | > | > But then if you sell 100 items, inflate those shipping costs a bit, you | > could make over $200. In the grand scheme of things, however, I could care
Quoted text (10 lines)| > less. I'm not buying your game and if someone wants to (with shipping), | > that's good for you and the buyer. That's what it's all about. | > | > Alanb | > | > | > | That's commerce, Alan, that's the internet. Great to see you are still | one of the biggest ****s on this group! Did you ever manage to drive a | whole lap of Monza with GLP?
Overcharging for shipping and doing other dishonest things to get money (not saying the original poster was doing all this), is not commerce, it's fraud. It's nice to see you've come to this group, nameless, attacking character, and transposing letters. The GPL reference (even if you got it wrong) is not a surprising one, since a very decent number of GPL racers are a pompous group, always claiming an elite status. I claim someone is over-charging for shipping and you call it commerce. That's your opinion (albeit rather an odd one). I guess you don't allow people to have opinions, unless they agree with your own? Alanb
Alan Bernardo wrote:
Quoted text (54 lines)> "muffled titter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Ej3Mf.18201$[email hidden]... > | Alan Bernardo wrote: > | > "jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > | > news:[email hidden]... > | > | Alan, > | > | > | > | Priority Mail is always $3.50, at the very least. I always opt to use > | > | Delivery Confirmation because it lets both me and the seller track the > | > | shipment (which helps protect the buyer), and nobody can claim that > | > | they didn't receive the package (which helps protect me), and there is > | > | no signature or pickup required on the receiving end (so it's not an > | > | inconvenience for the buyer). Add that to a Priority Mail parcel, and > | > | that ALWAYS comes up to at least $4.20. Given that, you are right -- > | > | my $5.50 as-listed price does come in a bit high, but not by much, and > | > | as I said, I do often refund the difference. > | > | > | > > | > No big deal. I'm curious to know why you are selling this game, or is > it > | > just one of a number of games you are selling. I mean, ten bucks isn't > | > going to get you much. > | > > | > But then if you sell 100 items, inflate those shipping costs a bit, you > | > could make over $200. In the grand scheme of things, however, I could > care > | > less. I'm not buying your game and if someone wants to (with shipping), > | > that's good for you and the buyer. That's what it's all about. > | > > | > Alanb > | > > | > > | > > | That's commerce, Alan, that's the internet. Great to see you are still > | one of the biggest ****s on this group! Did you ever manage to drive a > | whole lap of Monza with GLP? > > Overcharging for shipping and doing other dishonest things to get money (not > saying the original poster was doing all this), is not commerce, it's fraud. > > It's nice to see you've come to this group, nameless, attacking character, > and transposing letters. > > The GPL reference (even if you got it wrong) is not a surprising one, since > a very decent number of GPL racers are a pompous group, always claiming an > elite status. > > I claim someone is over-charging for shipping and you call it commerce. > That's your opinion (albeit rather an odd one). I guess you don't allow > people to have opinions, unless they agree with your own? > > Alanb > >
He's not forcing anyone to buy it. Buyer beware!
| > | He's not forcing anyone to buy it. Buyer beware! I can see I'm wasting my time. Nice argument, which goes something like this: I steal something (or get it dishonestly), and put it up for sale. And since I'm not forcing anyone to buy this piece of merchandise (or whatever it is), it's perfectly fine how I got it or how I plan to distribute it or what I charge. That's why gasoline companies can charge whatever they want for gas, irregardless of market prices. After all, they're not forcing anyone to buy it. (BTW, I'm curious, what the heck is "Buyer beware!" supposed to mean.) Alanb
Alan Bernardo wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)> | > > | He's not forcing anyone to buy it. Buyer beware! > > I can see I'm wasting my time. Nice argument, which goes something like > this: I steal something (or get it dishonestly), and put it up for sale. > And since I'm not forcing anyone to buy this piece of merchandise (or > whatever it is), it's perfectly fine how I got it or how I plan to > distribute it or what I charge. > > That's why gasoline companies can charge whatever they want for gas, > irregardless of market prices. After all, they're not forcing anyone to buy > it. > > (BTW, I'm curious, what the heck is "Buyer beware!" supposed to mean.) > > Alanb
I'm okay with you having a problem with my shipping rates, Alan, but you're not implying that I stole my copy of MBWR, or came by it dishonestly, are you? ???
"jbodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)| | Alan Bernardo wrote: | > | > | > | He's not forcing anyone to buy it. Buyer beware! | > | > I can see I'm wasting my time. Nice argument, which goes something like | > this: I steal something (or get it dishonestly), and put it up for sale. | > And since I'm not forcing anyone to buy this piece of merchandise (or | > whatever it is), it's perfectly fine how I got it or how I plan to | > distribute it or what I charge. | > | > That's why gasoline companies can charge whatever they want for gas, | > irregardless of market prices. After all, they're not forcing anyone to
buy
Quoted text (12 lines)| > it. | > | > (BTW, I'm curious, what the heck is "Buyer beware!" supposed to mean.) | > | > Alanb | | I'm okay with you having a problem with my shipping rates, Alan, but | you're not implying that I stole my copy of MBWR, or came by it | dishonestly, are you? | | ??? |
No, of course not. I was only commenting on the other poster, who said that it doesn't much matter how a seller came to piece of merchandise, as long as that person wasn't forcing others to purchase it. Alanb

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