Does anyone know how I can convert a CD into floppys. I have an old 486
Laptop with no OS installed, and havent been able to find drivers to get the
external CD working so I can install Win95. I'd like to get it up and
running just to use for e-mail, and web browsing while I'm on the road.
TIA
TK
"Tony Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Does anyone know how I can convert a CD into floppys. I have an old486
> Laptop with no OS installed, and havent been able to find drivers toget the
> external CD working so I can install Win95. I'd like to get it up and
> running just to use for e-mail, and web browsing while I'm on theroad.
It would be easier for you to add a CD ROM drive and an IDE card to the
486 instead.
--KC
I have thirty 3.5" floppies that will do the install of Win95, I was
able to make them somehow, but I can not remember. I could maybe send
them to you, but I do not know if any have gone bad.
SLG
"Tony Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)
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> Does anyone know how I can convert a CD into floppys. I have an old 486 >Laptop with no OS installed, and havent been able to find drivers to get the >external CD working so I can install Win95. I'd like to get it up and >running just to use for e-mail, and web browsing while I'm on the road. > >TIA > >TK > >You could use Winrar to create rar files of everything in the \Win95
directory and copy them to floppies and then to your HD. Then do an
install from the HD.
Brian Oster
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:30:34 GMT, [email hidden] (Steve
Garrotto) wrote:
Brian Oster
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>I have thirty 3.5" floppies that will do the install of Win95, I was >able to make them somehow, but I can not remember. I could maybe send >them to you, but I do not know if any have gone bad. > >SLG > >"Tony Kelley" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> Does anyone know how I can convert a CD into floppys. I have an old 486 >>Laptop with no OS installed, and havent been able to find drivers to get the >>external CD working so I can install Win95. I'd like to get it up and >>running just to use for e-mail, and web browsing while I'm on the road. >> >>TIA >> >>TK >> >> > > >(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new >and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are >due to too many English classes/teachers) >Can't think of anything more time consuming than copying to floppy.
All you need is to copy the various files in the /win95 directory to
your HDD. You can even do this from dos. Try using a win98 startup
disk and enable CDROM support, this should have suitable drivers for
your CDrom drive.
Rafe Mc
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:01:13 -0500, "Tony Kelley"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
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> Does anyone know how I can convert a CD into floppys. I have an old 486 >Laptop with no OS installed, and havent been able to find drivers to get the >external CD working so I can install Win95. I'd like to get it up and >running just to use for e-mail, and web browsing while I'm on the road. > >TIA > >TK >
"Brian Oster" <bgoster@*remove_to_email*swbell.net> wrote in message
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> You could use Winrar to create rar files of everything in the \Win95
> directory and copy them to floppies and then to your HD. Then do an
> install from the HD.
How can you unrar them from the HD if the OS is not installed?
Create a self extracting rar file i.e. an exe. Use any boot disk to
boot up the pc and you should be able to copy all the rar files to the
hd and then run the *.exe file to selft extract. The only thing i'm
not sure about is if winrar requires a gui interface to run or if it
can be run from the command line. I know a long time ago I used to
make self extracting zip files and I could zip them with the option to
span several disks, but I have not tried it with winrar so I am not
100% certain. Any way you do it, it's gonna require lots of floppies
and lots of time.
Brian Oster
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:45:31 -0500, "lane" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
Brian Oster
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> >"Brian Oster" <bgoster@*remove_to_email*swbell.net> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> You could use Winrar to create rar files of everything in the \Win95 >> directory and copy them to floppies and then to your HD. Then do an >> install from the HD. > >How can you unrar them from the HD if the OS is not installed? >Tony, Use a Windows 98/ME startup floppy? As these have more drivers to
recognize a better variety of older CD-Rom drives, IDE & SCSI. Then run the
setup from the Win9x CD?
Or try to make a boot floppy, fun, remember those old DOS switch commands?
Here;
http://www.pcnineoneone.com/howto/cdboot1.html
More fun if it is a oddball SCSI CD drive.
Other than that, the easiest way to put an OS on an old computer that you
can't/or pain in the ass (SCSI) use CD-Rom drive, is to format the drive
(preferably FAT32 if big enough of a drive) remove the drive, make it a
slave, put it in a working computer, copy the CD windows cab files to a
directory (Win95) and run setup from there after you put the drive back in
the 486. Make sure you reset the drive to master! Being a laptop it will be
a major pain. How's the battery? Doing an OS install and trying to find or
buying a battery for a old laptop is usually the death knell for old
laptops. You would probably be better off finding a (I've seen) new laptop
for less than $600 US (old stock), or a used laptop IMO.
I wouldn't bother with the Win95 floppy version as most of these versions
are Win95a (some Win95b OSR2 laptop floppies are known to exist and that is
what you really need) which is totally bogus for PnP driver conflicts, and
mainly will not recognize SCSI CD Drives.
Ahh the days of installing a OS from floppies, sitting around and swapping
floppies, heh. Old, very old, bad, but good to learn on to resolve IRQ
conflicts heh. :-)
I have seen on the web that there is a way to make Win9x install floppies,
but it's been awhile for Win95 days. Do Da Search. All my old Win95 links
are dead.
Windows 95 b, c, & d OSR2 were only available as a OEM install and mostly
found on a CD or old MSDN CD's
486's are getting a little aged for use, as the hard drives (mostly less
than 8 gigs, less for laptops) that these motherboards can use are about to
old (5 + years) for safe data storage. Hope your Email isn't to important to
you.
Rotsa Ruck, :-)
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The Chicago Daily News headline reads:
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"Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Yea, that's the best way. Those cdrom drivers on a Win98 startup disk are
generic and should work with just about any IDE cdrom drive.
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> Can't think of anything more time consuming than copying to floppy. > > All you need is to copy the various files in the /win95 directory to > your HDD. You can even do this from dos. Try using a win98 startup > disk and enable CDROM support, this should have suitable drivers for > your CDrom drive. > > Rafe Mc
"Brian Oster" <bgoster@*remove_to_email*swbell.net> wrote in message
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There may be an old dos version somewhere, I've only ever used Winrar though
and needs Windows installed first to use. There are command line versions of
the Ace compression program around so this would probably work too.
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> Create a self extracting rar file i.e. an exe. Use any boot disk to > boot up the pc and you should be able to copy all the rar files to the > hd and then run the *.exe file to selft extract. The only thing i'm > not sure about is if winrar requires a gui interface to run or if it > can be run from the command line. I know a long time ago I used to > make self extracting zip files and I could zip them with the option to > span several disks, but I have not tried it with winrar so I am not > 100% certain. Any way you do it, it's gonna require lots of floppies > and lots of time. > > Brian OsterOn Wed, 13 Mar 2002 07:41:14 -0500, "lane" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
The only problem is if it isn't an ide cdrom. I have an old 2x cd rom
that will not work with the win98 boot disk. The cd has its own isa
card and requires its drivers to work (still works and I still use it
btw). Anything from recent history should work however.
Brian Oster
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> >"Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Can't think of anything more time consuming than copying to floppy. >> >> All you need is to copy the various files in the /win95 directory to >> your HDD. You can even do this from dos. Try using a win98 startup >> disk and enable CDROM support, this should have suitable drivers for >> your CDrom drive. >> >> Rafe Mc > >Yea, that's the best way. Those cdrom drivers on a Win98 startup disk are >generic and should work with just about any IDE cdrom drive. >On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:02:33 GMT, Brian Oster
<bgoster@*remove_to_email*swbell.net> wrote:
If the Win98 disk doesn't work try a linux boot disk. Download one of
the Slackware 8.0 boot floppy images . They have disk images for
various types of CDROMs, scsi etc. Boot with one of them then copy
files from the CD to your HD and install it from the HD. I remember I
had to do this with a weird CD that my friend had. Here's a snippet
of the readme.txt
Here's a description of the disks:
These are the bootdisks for IDE based systems. All IDE bootdisks
support IDE hard drives and CD-ROM drives, plus additional support
listed below.
aztech.i CD-ROM drives: Aztech CDA268-01A, Orchid CD-3110,
Okano/Wearnes CDD110, Conrad TXC, CyCDROM CR520, CR540.
cdu31a.i Sony CDU31/33a CD-ROM.
cdu535.i Sony CDU531/535 CD-ROM.
cm206.iPhilips/LMS cm206 CD-ROM with cm260 adapter card.
goldstar.i Goldstar R420 CD-ROM (sometimes sold in a 'Reveal
Multimedia Kit').
isp16.i Supports ISP16/MAD16/Mozart CD-ROM drives.
Boot time command line options (or 'append=' options
in /etc/lilo.conf) are:
isp16=<port>,<irq>,<dma>,<drive_type>
Valid values for drive_type include: Sanyo, Panasonic
(same as Sanyo), Sony and Mitsumi. Default values are:
port=0x340, irq=0, dma=0, drive_type=Sanyo.
mcdx.i **NON-IDE** Mitsumi CD-ROM support.
sbpcd.i Matsushita, Kotobuki, Panasonic, CreativeLabs
(Sound Blaster), Longshine and Teac NON-IDE
CD-ROM
support. IMPORTANT! I can't possibly stress
enough
that this disk is *not* for IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM
drives,
which include nearly all of the drives made by
these
manufacturers recently. For IDE/ATAPI CD-ROM
drives,
use bare.i.
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>The only problem is if it isn't an ide cdrom. I have an old 2x cd rom >that will not work with the win98 boot disk. The cd has its own isa >card and requires its drivers to work (still works and I still use it >btw). Anything from recent history should work however. > > >Brian Oster
"Brian Oster" <bgoster@*remove_to_email*swbell.net> wrote in message
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> The only problem is if it isn't an ide cdrom. I have an old 2x cd rom
> that will not work with the win98 boot disk. The cd has its own isa
> card and requires its drivers to work (still works and I still use it
> btw). Anything from recent history should work however.
Geez, time to retire that 2X drive! :-)
I just put in a Liteon DVD drive to go alongside my Ricoh CDRW drive. It's
magic. Both have no problems with copy protection and read subchannel data
and work with the Win98 startup disk. Plus I can boot straight to cdrom with
no startup disk.
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 09:01:26 -0500, "lane" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
I have a couple of old junkers that I use for testing. Only use the
drive really to load the OS installing files to HD and to install
other software.
Brian Oster
