Where's the other Nascar2002 track?

I heard that there was supposed to be a 3 mile fantasy oval track to run with no restrictor plates. So where is it?

"David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4hgld$ne4$[email hidden]... > I heard that there was supposed to be a 3 mile fantasy oval track to run > with no restrictor plates. So where is it? If it's in the game, it's in the game (c) Sorry, couldn't resist (doh, EA's gonna sue me now). I think it's called the Coca Cola Super Speedway.

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:24:09 GMT, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:a4hgld$ne4$[email hidden]... >> I heard that there was supposed to be a 3 mile fantasy oval track to run >> with no restrictor plates. So where is it? > >If it's in the game, it's in the game (c) > >Sorry, couldn't resist (doh, EA's gonna sue me now). I think it's called the >Coca Cola Super Speedway.

Why not some road tracks added.. even fantasy roadtracks would be welcome :( Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:24:09 GMT, "Rob Adams" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >"David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:a4hgld$ne4$[email hidden]... > >> I heard that there was supposed to be a 3 mile fantasy oval track torun > >> with no restrictor plates. So where is it? > > > >If it's in the game, it's in the game (c) > > > >Sorry, couldn't resist (doh, EA's gonna sue me now). I think it's calledthe > >Coca Cola Super Speedway. > > Why not some road tracks added.. even fantasy roadtracks would be > welcome :( Because oval tracks (especially fantasy ones where they can make up the surroundings) are MUCH easier to make than road courses. And because they look at the server logs and realize that the majority of online racing happens at Daytona and Talladega (I'm guessing - I've never run N4 online, or even much offline). Nascar = oval, dat's da fax. Road courses are the anomoly, and only in the season for historical reasons. Most Nascar teams would probably jump for joy if Watkins Glen and Sears Point were removed from the calendar.

On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:57:06 GMT, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Nascar = oval, dat's da fax. Road courses are the anomoly, and only in the >season for historical reasons. Most Nascar teams would probably jump for joy >if Watkins Glen and Sears Point were removed from the calendar. Seriously? I'd think that would be the only 2 races the drivers would look forward to.. And indeed, I was very surprised when I only saw ovals being run online.. I'd thought that at least us Europeans would choose for some right turns too :-/ Andre

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:57:06 GMT, "Rob Adams" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > Seriously? I'd think that would be the only 2 races the drivers would > look forward to.. NASCAR is not about tracks, it is all about driver against driver. As opposed to F1 which is all about pit crew against pit crew, CART which is all about driver against management, IRL which is all about Sarah Fisher against the retaining wall, ......

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:57:06 GMT, "Rob Adams" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Nascar = oval, dat's da fax. Road courses are the anomoly, and only inthe > >season for historical reasons. Most Nascar teams would probably jump forjoy

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> >if Watkins Glen and Sears Point were removed from the calendar. > > Seriously? I'd think that would be the only 2 races the drivers would > look forward to.. > And indeed, I was very surprised when I only saw ovals being run > online.. I'd thought that at least us Europeans would choose for some > right turns too :-/ > > Andre

Well look at it from the teams' perspective. They race something like 40 times a year, 2 of which are on road courses. For those road courses they have to 1) have a completely different set of cars, 2) travel relatively far (compared to the Southern ovals), 3) have a completely different setup, and 4) have one of the few drivers who hasn't spent his entire life since he was 10 racing ovals. It's expensive, and many of the teams know they don't have a CHANCE of getting any decent points. On an oval, ANYBODY can win given the right circumstances (yellow at the right time, big crash, whatever). I think the only teams that look forward to the road courses are the ones who aren't in the points race who hire road-course specialists for these races (Ron Fellows for example). The sponsors probably pay them pretty well for those two races, because their car will be near the front instead of many laps down. p.s. I'm guessing that the Europeans who like road courses are doing the same thing as us North Americans: driving GPL.

Actually, not necessarily. Most of them like going to the road courses, some just for the "atmosphere" of the area. Different sets of cars isn't a big deal; they have them for SS, and short tracks anyway. The distance isn't either, as they go near those same courses for oval races anyway, let alone Michigan i.e. Rusty Wallace, Ricky Rudd, Gordon, Stewart, Andretti, and others really like them. Some don't like every oval either, no big deal. Ken Schrader hates Martinsville. The races at Riverside produced some great races with Tim Richmond, Darrell Waltrip, and others. In fact, that was the only time there was some serious whining about road courses, and that was because of the travel(before every team was using planes, and they drove there), and at that time, it was the only circuit out west. Actually, while many fans wish they'd go away, the drivers usually have feel the other way about them. -John "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Hgbb8.3254$Qq1.15838@shaw-ty2... > "> > Well look at it from the teams' perspective. They race something like 40 > times a year, 2 of which are on road courses. For those road courses they > have to 1) have a completely different set of cars, 2) travel relativelyfar > (compared to the Southern ovals), 3) have a completely different setup,and > 4) have one of the few drivers who hasn't spent his entire life since hewas

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> 10 racing ovals. > > It's expensive, and many of the teams know they don't have a CHANCE of > getting any decent points. On an oval, ANYBODY can win given the right > circumstances (yellow at the right time, big crash, whatever). > > I think the only teams that look forward to the road courses are the ones > who aren't in the points race who hire road-course specialists for these > races (Ron Fellows for example). The sponsors probably pay them pretty

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> for those two races, because their car will be near the front instead of > many laps down. > > p.s. I'm guessing that the Europeans who like road courses are doing the > same thing as us North Americans: driving GPL. > >

And there ya go, two completely opposite opinions. Take yer pick ;) I have no factual basis for my opinion, just guessing. If I was running a Nascar team I would see the road courses as a waste of resources. But since that is never gonna happen, it's a moot point... "John Pancoast" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Actually, not necessarily. Most of them like going to the road courses, > some just for the "atmosphere" of the area. Different sets of cars isn'ta > big deal; they have them for SS, and short tracks anyway. The distance > isn't either, as they go near those same courses for oval races anyway,let

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> alone Michigan i.e. > > Rusty Wallace, Ricky Rudd, Gordon, Stewart, Andretti, and others really > like them. Some don't like every oval either, no big deal. Ken Schrader > hates Martinsville. > > The races at Riverside produced some great races with Tim Richmond, > Darrell Waltrip, and others. In fact, that was the only time there was

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> serious whining about road courses, and that was because of the > travel(before every team was using planes, and they drove there), and at > that time, it was the only circuit out west. > > Actually, while many fans wish they'd go away, the drivers usually have > feel the other way about them. > > -John > > > "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Hgbb8.3254$Qq1.15838@shaw-ty2... > > "> > > Well look at it from the teams' perspective. They race something like 40 > > times a year, 2 of which are on road courses. For those road courses

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> > have to 1) have a completely different set of cars, 2) travel relatively > far > > (compared to the Southern ovals), 3) have a completely different setup, > and > > 4) have one of the few drivers who hasn't spent his entire life since he > was > > 10 racing ovals. > > > > It's expensive, and many of the teams know they don't have a CHANCE of > > getting any decent points. On an oval, ANYBODY can win given the right > > circumstances (yellow at the right time, big crash, whatever). > > > > I think the only teams that look forward to the road courses are the

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> > who aren't in the points race who hire road-course specialists for these > > races (Ron Fellows for example). The sponsors probably pay them pretty > well > > for those two races, because their car will be near the front instead of > > many laps down. > > > > p.s. I'm guessing that the Europeans who like road courses are doing the > > same thing as us North Americans: driving GPL. > > > > > >

Its the Coca Cola track. Its there cos i was driving... 240mph! Dont expect to win if u r at the back of the pack. Luke "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<a4hgld$ne4$[email hidden]>... > I heard that there was supposed to be a 3 mile fantasy oval track to run > with no restrictor plates. So where is it?

Dont know why people always resort to nascar isnt racing cos its just ovals. If you dont like it nobody else really cares, people like it not because the tracks are complex but because the racing stategies are complex, and racing at 200mph a few mm away from 2 other drivers around a turn is exciting for some people. If you feel like posting crap that points out the obvious, do some posts about how truck racing is crap because they only go 160kph and weigh too much, or old F1 cars are crap because they handle bad and dont have any wings.... get over it guys Luke "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<m9Ya8.3926$7n.10493@shaw-ty1>...

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> "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 23:24:09 GMT, "Rob Adams" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >"David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:a4hgld$ne4$[email hidden]... > > >> I heard that there was supposed to be a 3 mile fantasy oval track to > run > > >> with no restrictor plates. So where is it? > > > > > >If it's in the game, it's in the game (c) > > > > > >Sorry, couldn't resist (doh, EA's gonna sue me now). I think it's called > the > > >Coca Cola Super Speedway. > > > > Why not some road tracks added.. even fantasy roadtracks would be > > welcome :( > > Because oval tracks (especially fantasy ones where they can make up the > surroundings) are MUCH easier to make than road courses. And because they > look at the server logs and realize that the majority of online racing > happens at Daytona and Talladega (I'm guessing - I've never run N4 online, > or even much offline). > > Nascar = oval, dat's da fax. Road courses are the anomoly, and only in the > season for historical reasons. Most Nascar teams would probably jump for joy > if Watkins Glen and Sears Point were removed from the calendar.

On 15 Feb 2002 15:57:04 -0800, [email hidden] (Luke Phillips) wrote:

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>Dont know why people always resort to nascar isnt racing cos its just >ovals. If you dont like it nobody else really cares, people like it >not because the tracks are complex but because the racing stategies >are complex, and racing at 200mph a few mm away from 2 other drivers >around a turn is exciting for some people. If you feel like posting >crap that points out the obvious, do some posts about how truck racing >is crap because they only go 160kph and weigh too much, or old F1 cars >are crap because they handle bad and dont have any wings.... get over >it guys > >Luke

I'm not complaining about the ovals or oval racing. I like the 2 roadtracks in N4 very much, while I don't really like the ovals and the strategy involved, just not my type of racing. I simply wished there would be some more roadtracks for N4. Let's hope Noonans converter works with 2002.. anyone tried that yet? Andre

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>Dont know why people always resort to nascar isnt racing cos its just >ovals. If you dont like it nobody else really cares, people like it >not because the tracks are complex but because the racing stategies >are complex, and racing at 200mph a few mm away from 2 other drivers >around a turn is exciting for some people. If you feel like posting >crap that points out the obvious, do some posts about how truck racing >is crap because they only go 160kph and weigh too much, or old F1 cars >are crap because they handle bad and dont have any wings.... get over >it guys

How did you get all that venom from what Rob posted? Are we reading the same post? Someone asked a question, and he answered it. Besides, Rob never even SAID he didn't like NASCAR racing... Geez, what's YOUR issue? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <a4i1sg$eu1q$[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> writes: >NASCAR is not about tracks, it is all about driver against driver. As >opposed to F1 which is all about pit crew against pit crew, CART which >is all about driver against management, IRL which is all about Sarah >Fisher against the retaining wall, ...... Ouch...!<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPLRank - under construction... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Silverstone would rock in NR2002. I never have gotten the hang of Sears Point, but I love running the Glen, and Silverstone would bee cool to. Gonna have to try copying over Silverstone from N4 into NR2002. I don't hold much hope for it working since I already tried Chicagoland from NR2002 into N4. MadDAWG

In article <3c714aef$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Silverstone would rock in NR2002. I never have gotten the hang of Sears > Point, but I love running the Glen, and Silverstone would bee cool to. Gonna > have to try copying over Silverstone from N4 into NR2002. I don't hold much > hope for it working since I already tried Chicagoland from NR2002 into N4. > Don't bother - it doesn't work (I tried it) - it just says "can't load track". -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

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> > In article <3c714aef$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > says... > > Silverstone would rock in NR2002. I never have gotten the hang of Sears > > Point, but I love running the Glen, and Silverstone would bee cool to. Gonna > > have to try copying over Silverstone from N4 into NR2002. I don't hold much > > hope for it working since I already tried Chicagoland from NR2002 into N4. > > > > Don't bother - it doesn't work (I tried it) - it just says "can't load > track".

The guys are looking into it.... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:16:42 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: >> Don't bother - it doesn't work (I tried it) - it just says "can't load >> track". > >The guys are looking into it.... Good news, hope they get it working! And uhmm.. is David planning on converting the.. err.. I hardly dare to ask it.. the Ring? Andre

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Andre Warringa wrote:

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> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:16:42 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >> Don't bother - it doesn't work (I tried it) - it just says "can't load > >> track". > > > >The guys are looking into it.... > > Good news, hope they get it working! And uhmm.. is David planning on > converting the.. err.. I hardly dare to ask it.. the Ring?

Not sure if it's possible, there seems to be a limit to how long a track can be in N4, I seem to remember something about this from a discussion the guys had one night, whether or not the same limit applies to N2002.......but if it's possible, there will be several guys in the "crew" pushing him to convert it :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com

On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:12:35 +0100, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: >Not sure if it's possible, there seems to be a limit to how long a track >can be in N4, I seem to remember something about this from a discussion >the guys had one night, whether or not the same limit applies to >N2002.......but if it's possible, there will be several guys in the >"crew" pushing him to convert it :-) Hmm.. If that problem is really there in N4, I can't imagine it would be gone in N4, they didn't have any reason to remove the track length limit.. unless they read here how bad people want to drive Nascars on the Ring and removed the track limit especially for us! Hey I can dream, can't I? Andre

It's in the game. Coca-Cola. It's a blast, but IMHO Chicago is the most fun of all the new tracks. -Larry "David Hearn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:a4hgld$ne4$[email hidden]... > I heard that there was supposed to be a 3 mile fantasy oval track to run > with no restrictor plates. So where is it? > >

Andre Warringa wrote: > > Hmm.. If that problem is really there in N4, I can't imagine it would > be gone in N4, they didn't have any reason to remove the track length > limit.. unless they read here how bad people want to drive Nascars on > the Ring and removed the track limit especially for us! > Hey I can dream, can't I? Sure you can....just don't hold your breath :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com