Castle Combe - excellent

Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! A really challenging track considering its shortness - Quarry in particular is going to take a very long time to get right. The number of times I've ended up in that cornfield...! I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). The visual appearance of the place is excellent - it's instantly recognisable, and all the paths, banks etc seem to be in the right place. Can't see the BRSCC stand by the pits, though - maybe that's only in the highest-quality version <g> My only slight quibble is with the appearance of the spectators - the circuit is in Wiltshire, for heaven's sake: where are all the kids in Manchester United shirts!? -- "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

I have to agree, its a brilliant effort. And its soo nice to see these smaller local tracks that are the backbone of worldwide motorsport getting redone for gpl. dan "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > > > -- > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

Mike Cotchin and Fred Normenmark (dont kill me if I got the spelling wrong Fred!) are to be congratulated. They ploughed literally THOUSANDS of hours of work into this - and it shows. I was lucky enough to be involved in some Beta Testing and a few 3do's - but Mike's persistance with accuracy and iterative improvement of the track itself can not be praised highley enough imho. There are 3 types of tracks that get released for GPL. The Crap, the Average and the Exquisit. CC is so far into the later category - it redefines it imo. Doug "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vj1fq$fqs0u$[email hidden]...

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> I have to agree, its a brilliant effort. And its soo nice to see these > smaller local tracks that are the backbone of worldwide motorsport getting > redone for gpl. > dan > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the > > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they > > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > > > > > > -- > > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism > > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. > > > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > >

Couldn't agree more, congratulations guys. "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vj287$fhckj$[email hidden]... > Mike Cotchin and Fred Normenmark (dont kill me if I got the spellingwrong > Fred!) are to be congratulated. > > They ploughed literally THOUSANDS of hours of work into this - and itshows. > I was lucky enough to be involved in some Beta Testing and a few 3do's -but > Mike's persistance with accuracy and iterative improvement of the track > itself can not be praised highley enough imho. > > There are 3 types of tracks that get released for GPL. The Crap, theAverage

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> and the Exquisit. > > CC is so far into the later category - it redefines it imo. > > Doug > > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9vj1fq$fqs0u$[email hidden]... > > I have to agree, its a brilliant effort. And its soo nice to see these > > smaller local tracks that are the backbone of worldwide motorsport

getting

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> > redone for gpl. > > dan > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the > > > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they > > > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > > > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed

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> > > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. > > > > > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > > > > > >

Where might one be able to find this track? "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > > A really challenging track considering its shortness - Quarry in > particular is going to take a very long time to get right. The number > of times I've ended up in that cornfield...! > > I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - > the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be > useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). > > The visual appearance of the place is excellent - it's instantly > recognisable, and all the paths, banks etc seem to be in the right > place. Can't see the BRSCC stand by the pits, though - maybe that's > only in the highest-quality version <g> > > My only slight quibble is with the appearance of the spectators - the > circuit is in Wiltshire, for heaven's sake: where are all the kids in > Manchester United shirts!? > > -- > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

I have to agree... Castle Combe is one of the best add-on's I've seen so far for GPL.. Quite a remarkable achivement imho. -- ed_ The GPLEA -------------------------------------- - My name is Elliott Forbes Robinson. Spell it, please. - E-F-R. No, no, spell your name. - E-F-R!! "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> skrev i melding news:[email hidden]... > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > > A really challenging track considering its shortness - Quarry in > particular is going to take a very long time to get right. The number > of times I've ended up in that cornfield...! > > I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - > the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be > useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). > > The visual appearance of the place is excellent - it's instantly > recognisable, and all the paths, banks etc seem to be in the right > place. Can't see the BRSCC stand by the pits, though - maybe that's > only in the highest-quality version <g> > > My only slight quibble is with the appearance of the spectators - the > circuit is in Wiltshire, for heaven's sake: where are all the kids in > Manchester United shirts!? > > -- > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

It's here Jay: http://www.designerslaboratory.com/gpl/index.html It has a wonderful authentic quality that's tough to define about it. The more I drive it, the more I love it. Ian www.simbin.com "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XwaT7.11217$MM5.1036723@rwcrnsc53...

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> Where might one be able to find this track? > > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the > > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they > > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > > > > A really challenging track considering its shortness - Quarry in > > particular is going to take a very long time to get right. The number > > of times I've ended up in that cornfield...! > > > > I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - > > the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be > > useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). > > > > The visual appearance of the place is excellent - it's instantly > > recognisable, and all the paths, banks etc seem to be in the right > > place. Can't see the BRSCC stand by the pits, though - maybe that's > > only in the highest-quality version <g> > > > > My only slight quibble is with the appearance of the spectators - the > > circuit is in Wiltshire, for heaven's sake: where are all the kids in > > Manchester United shirts!? > > > > -- > > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism > > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. > > > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > >

Forgot www.simbin.com!!! LOL :-) -Jacob "Ian Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ag8T7.10058$[email hidden]...

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> Couldn't agree more, congratulations guys. > > > "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9vj287$fhckj$[email hidden]... > > Mike Cotchin and Fred Normenmark (dont kill me if I got the spelling > wrong > > Fred!) are to be congratulated. > > > > They ploughed literally THOUSANDS of hours of work into this - and it > shows. > > I was lucky enough to be involved in some Beta Testing and a few 3do's - > but > > Mike's persistance with accuracy and iterative improvement of the track > > itself can not be praised highley enough imho. > > > > There are 3 types of tracks that get released for GPL. The Crap, the > Average > > and the Exquisit. > > > > CC is so far into the later category - it redefines it imo. > > > > Doug > > > > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9vj1fq$fqs0u$[email hidden]... > > > I have to agree, its a brilliant effort. And its soo nice to see these > > > smaller local tracks that are the backbone of worldwide motorsport > getting > > > redone for gpl. > > > dan > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that

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> > > > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > > > > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed > fascism > > > > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. > > > > > > > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > > > > > > > > > > > >

Thanks!!! Excellent Circut! "Ian Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WMaT7.10602$[email hidden]...

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> It's here Jay: > http://www.designerslaboratory.com/gpl/index.html > > It has a wonderful authentic quality that's tough to define about it. > The more I drive it, the more I love it. > > Ian > www.simbin.com > > "Jay J" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XwaT7.11217$MM5.1036723@rwcrnsc53... > > Where might one be able to find this track? > > > > > > > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the > > > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they > > > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > > > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > > > > > > A really challenging track considering its shortness - Quarry in > > > particular is going to take a very long time to get right. The number > > > of times I've ended up in that cornfield...! > > > > > > I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - > > > the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be > > > useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). > > > > > > The visual appearance of the place is excellent - it's instantly > > > recognisable, and all the paths, banks etc seem to be in the right > > > place. Can't see the BRSCC stand by the pits, though - maybe that's > > > only in the highest-quality version <g> > > > > > > My only slight quibble is with the appearance of the spectators - the > > > circuit is in Wiltshire, for heaven's sake: where are all the kids in > > > Manchester United shirts!? > > > > > > -- > > > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed

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Hey! Thanks Jacob, how could I forget www.SimBin.com ?? "Jacob Butner" <jbutner@*REMOVE-MEsimracing.org> wrote in message news:9vjh7a$abrg$[email hidden]...

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> Forgot www.simbin.com!!! > > LOL :-) > > -Jacob > > "Ian Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Ag8T7.10058$[email hidden]... > > Couldn't agree more, congratulations guys. > > > > > > "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9vj287$fhckj$[email hidden]... > > > Mike Cotchin and Fred Normenmark (dont kill me if I got the spelling > > wrong > > > Fred!) are to be congratulated. > > > > > > They ploughed literally THOUSANDS of hours of work into this - and it > > shows. > > > I was lucky enough to be involved in some Beta Testing and a few

3do's - > > but > > > Mike's persistance with accuracy and iterative improvement of thetrack

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> > > itself can not be praised highley enough imho. > > > > > > There are 3 types of tracks that get released for GPL. The Crap, the > > Average > > > and the Exquisit. > > > > > > CC is so far into the later category - it redefines it imo. > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:9vj1fq$fqs0u$[email hidden]... > > > > I have to agree, its a brilliant effort. And its soo nice to see

these

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> > > > smaller local tracks that are the backbone of worldwide motorsport > > getting > > > > redone for gpl. > > > > dan > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that > the > > > > > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that > they > > > > > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I > > > > > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right

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How could anyone forget www.simbin.com with the number of times www.simbin.com is posted here. Of course, if I'd created www.simbin.com I'd mention www.simbin.com a lot as well, especially on www.simbin.com related topics. Or perhaps put www.simbin.com in my .sig. Ben Coleman in no way affiliated with www.simbin.com "Ian Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:g_cT7.20340$[email hidden]...

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> Hey! Thanks Jacob, how could I forget www.SimBin.com ?? > > > > > > "Jacob Butner" <jbutner@*REMOVE-MEsimracing.org> wrote in message > news:9vjh7a$abrg$[email hidden]... > > Forgot www.simbin.com!!! > > > > LOL :-) > > > > -Jacob > > > > "Ian Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Ag8T7.10058$[email hidden]... > > > Couldn't agree more, congratulations guys. > > > > > > > > > "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:9vj287$fhckj$[email hidden]... > > > > Mike Cotchin and Fred Normenmark (dont kill me if I got the

spelling > > > wrong > > > > Fred!) are to be congratulated. > > > > > > > > They ploughed literally THOUSANDS of hours of work into this - andit

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> > > shows. > > > > I was lucky enough to be involved in some Beta Testing and a few > 3do's - > > > but > > > > Mike's persistance with accuracy and iterative improvement of the > track > > > > itself can not be praised highley enough imho. > > > > > > > > There are 3 types of tracks that get released for GPL. The Crap, the > > > Average > > > > and the Exquisit. > > > > > > > > CC is so far into the later category - it redefines it imo. > > > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:9vj1fq$fqs0u$[email hidden]... > > > > > I have to agree, its a brilliant effort. And its soo nice to see > these > > > > > smaller local tracks that are the backbone of worldwide motorsport > > > getting > > > > > redone for gpl. > > > > > dan > > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in

message > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to seethat > > the > > > > > > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the sitethat > > they > > > > > > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, andI

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> > > > > > think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right > pain! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed > > > fascism > > > > > > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. > > > > > > > > > > > > The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): > http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Ok enough, thank you! Ian www.microsoft.com "Ben Coleman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > How could anyone forget www.simbin.com with the number of times > www.simbin.com is posted here. Of course, if I'd created www.simbin.comI'd

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> mention www.simbin.com a lot as well, especially on www.simbin.com related > topics. Or perhaps put www.simbin.com in my .sig. > > Ben Coleman > in no way affiliated with www.simbin.com > > "Ian Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:g_cT7.20340$[email hidden]... > > Hey! Thanks Jacob, how could I forget www.SimBin.com ?? > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jacob Butner" <jbutner@*REMOVE-MEsimracing.org> wrote in message > > news:9vjh7a$abrg$[email hidden]... > > > Forgot www.simbin.com!!! > > > > > > LOL :-) > > > > > > -Jacob > > > > > > "Ian Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:Ag8T7.10058$[email hidden]... > > > > Couldn't agree more, congratulations guys. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:9vj287$fhckj$[email hidden]... > > > > > Mike Cotchin and Fred Normenmark (dont kill me if I got the > spelling > > > > wrong > > > > > Fred!) are to be congratulated. > > > > > > > > > > They ploughed literally THOUSANDS of hours of work into this - and > it > > > > shows. > > > > > I was lucky enough to be involved in some Beta Testing and a few > > 3do's - > > > > but > > > > > Mike's persistance with accuracy and iterative improvement of the > > track > > > > > itself can not be praised highley enough imho. > > > > > > > > > > There are 3 types of tracks that get released for GPL. The Crap,

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> > > > Average > > > > > and the Exquisit. > > > > > > > > > > CC is so far into the later category - it redefines it imo. > > > > > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > "Dan Leach" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > news:9vj1fq$fqs0u$[email hidden]... > > > > > > I have to agree, its a brilliant effort. And its soo nice to see > > these > > > > > > smaller local tracks that are the backbone of worldwide

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> > > > getting > > > > > > redone for gpl. > > > > > > dan > > > > > > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in > message > > > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > > Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see > that > > > the > > > > > > > fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site > that > > > they > > > > > > > wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others,

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endorsed > > > > fascism > > > > > > > in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean politicalscientist.

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On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:17:56 -0000, "Ian Bell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ok enough, thank you! > >Ian >www.microsoft.com Lol :) Andre

On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:17:56 -0000, "Ian Bell" >Ok enough, thank you! >Ian >www.microsoft.com Lol :) Andre

Hi David, > I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - > the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be > useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). there is no use in having the 5th gear, thats why i only made it a 4gear setup :) cya Andy

Hi David, there is no use in having the 5th gear, thats why i only made it a 4gear setup :) cya Andy

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> Hi David, > > > I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - > > the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be > > useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). > > there is no use in having the 5th gear, thats why i only made it > a 4gear setup :) > > cya Andy

Exactly as the readme says (and common sense would suggest) Makes you wonder about some people! Doug

Why didnt you make it the conventional way then? 1st. for start - only... (as it should be!) 2nd to 5th for the rest. -- ed_ "Andreas Wilke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9vl3np$t8m$07$[email hidden]... > Hi David, > > > I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - > > the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be > > useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). > > there is no use in having the 5th gear, thats why i only made it > a 4gear setup :) > > cya Andy > > >

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:hCoT7.3458$[email hidden]... > Why didnt you make it the conventional way then? > > 1st. for start - only... (as it should be!) > 2nd to 5th for the rest. because im an Insect. I fell off every 2nd lap from the track, so only have to shift down 3 gears instead of 4. cya Andy

a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motor race EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars - not quite as fast as F1s- were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970, and Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to modify the AI to make them faster ? Thanks once more for a great track Ian On 16 Dec 2001 20:47:08 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote:

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>Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the >fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they >wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I >think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain! > >A really challenging track considering its shortness - Quarry in >particular is going to take a very long time to get right. The number >of times I've ended up in that cornfield...! > >I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible - >the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be >useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though). > >The visual appearance of the place is excellent - it's instantly >recognisable, and all the paths, banks etc seem to be in the right >place. Can't see the BRSCC stand by the pits, though - maybe that's >only in the highest-quality version <g> > >My only slight quibble is with the appearance of the spectators - the >circuit is in Wiltshire, for heaven's sake: where are all the kids in >Manchester United shirts!?

Douglas Ellison <[email hidden]> wrote on 17 Dec 2001: > Exactly as the readme says (and common sense would suggest) > > Makes you wonder about some people! > > Doug You *read* readmes before jumping in the car? Wow - get on to Guinness, someone. -- "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

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> > a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motor race > EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI > cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars - not quite as > fast as F1s- were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970, and > Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to > modify the AI to make them faster ?

Are they trunding round at 50mph? If you use GPLAIM or AItweaker it screws them up. Without either of those addons they run sub 1min laps.

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> > a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motor race > EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI > cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars - not quite as > fast as F1s- were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970, and > Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to > modify the AI to make them faster ? >

Oh I LOVE how slow they are...in an AI race I look like the mut's nuts there at the mo! ;-)

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> > a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motor race > > EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI > > cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars - not quite as > > fast as F1s- were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970, and > > Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to > > modify the AI to make them faster ? > > Are they trunding round at 50mph? > If you use GPLAIM or AItweaker it screws them up. Without either of > those addons they run sub 1min laps.

They need to be doing sub-50 second laps to be competitive. The fastest F1 lap of the (original) Castle Combe was something ridiculous like 40 seconds (mind you, that was a somewhat newer F1 ;-) Andy -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk

Andy Laurence <[email hidden]> wrote on 18 Dec 2001: > They need to be doing sub-50 second laps to be competitive. The > fastest F1 lap of the (original) Castle Combe was something > ridiculous like 40 seconds (mind you, that was a somewhat newer F1 > ;-) Wrong. The outright lap record (which of course, following the chicanes' introduction now stands as an all-time record) is 50.59 seconds, set by Nigel Greensall in a Tyrrell 023 on August 25th 1997. -- "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

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> > They need to be doing sub-50 second laps to be competitive. The > > fastest F1 lap of the (original) Castle Combe was something > > ridiculous like 40 seconds (mind you, that was a somewhat newer F1 > > ;-) > > Wrong. The outright lap record (which of course, following the > chicanes' introduction now stands as an all-time record) is 50.59 > seconds, set by Nigel Greensall in a Tyrrell 023 on August 25th 1997.

.... in damp conditions. He was the class of the field that day. It was amazing to see these cars so close, especially at tower where there is so little runoff. You feel like you could reach out and touch them. They mentioned in the commentary that they were testing before the meeting, and in the dry had managed something along the lines of 43 seconds. It was a few years ago now, so I can't remember the exact number. Obviously, this is an unofficial record as it neither happened in a race nor qualifying. Andy -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:53:07 -0000, "Andy Laurence" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> > a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motor race >> > EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI >> > cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars - not quite as >> > fast as F1s- were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970, and >> > Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to >> > modify the AI to make them faster ? >> >> Are they trunding round at 50mph? >> If you use GPLAIM or AItweaker it screws them up. Without either of >> those addons they run sub 1min laps. > >They need to be doing sub-50 second laps to be competitive. The fastest F1 >lap of the (original) Castle Combe was something ridiculous like 40 seconds >(mind you, that was a somewhat newer F1 ;-) > >Andy

a couple of thiungs : I have not used the track too much so far but find Jack Brabham is fastest with a 1:09 something. 1967 F1s trundling round Quarry at 35/40mph (as Parkes does) - c'mon guys ! I still maintain that somewhere around 55/56/57 secs would be a reaonable time for a front-running car of that era in optimal conditions round Combe. I have a default set-up for GPL Ian

> >> > a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motorrace > >> > EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI > >> > cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars - not quiteas

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> >> > fast as F1s- were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970, and > >> > Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to > >> > modify the AI to make them faster ? > >> > >> Are they trunding round at 50mph? > >> If you use GPLAIM or AItweaker it screws them up. Without either of > >> those addons they run sub 1min laps. > > > >They need to be doing sub-50 second laps to be competitive. The fastest

F1 > >lap of the (original) Castle Combe was something ridiculous like 40seconds

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> >(mind you, that was a somewhat newer F1 ;-) > > a couple of thiungs : > > I have not used the track too much so far but find Jack Brabham is > fastest with a 1:09 something. 1967 F1s trundling round Quarry at > 35/40mph (as Parkes does) - c'mon guys !

I've been round there somewhat quicker than that in an XR2i! It's not that sharp a turn, it's just long. The knack for Quarry is to take Folly wide so you're on the right just before Avon Rise. If you complete your left turn on the way up Avon Rise, then you can brake in a straight line (and not spin) when the car goes light at the top of Avon Rise. > I still maintain that somewhere around 55/56/57 secs would be a > reaonable time for a front-running car of that era in optimal > conditions round Combe. Indeed it would. The record for an F1 car of that era is about 55 seconds. Andy -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk

Andy Laurence <[email hidden]> wrote on 19 Dec 2001: > .... in damp conditions. He was the class of the field that day. <snip> And I'd chosen to go to what turned out to be a stunningly boring sportscar race at Donington instead. <sob> -- "We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist. The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

> > .... in damp conditions. He was the class of the field that day. > <snip> > > And I'd chosen to go to what turned out to be a stunningly boring > sportscar race at Donington instead. <sob> Sorry, didn't mean to show you what you missed ;-) Worrying how if I shut my eyes, I can still see and hear Nigel Greensall shooting up Avon Rise in the distance at 180mph! Funny how you always remember the things in the distance rather than the action right in front of you?! Andy -- PC-Based Multimedia System http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms NB: Spamtrap - my name @yahoo.co.uk