new computer-N4-Nvidia help needed

OK gurus need some advice. Bought a new Sony Vaio desktop. Price was right...drawback is video card. TNT 2 model 64 32 meg. Can't replace it for a year without voiding warranty on the computer. When I first loaded N4 d3d gave 35-38 fps with all features on and world view at half. Decided to try open GL and got 19-22. Switched back to d3d and now get 22-27. Also now when racing AL the car wont come up to speed. Sounds like engine is sputtering, almost like hitting a rev limiter but much too soon. All happened after I tried open GL. All was fine before. Can Rivatuner be used by a computer moron? Sure don't want to screw it up further. Can't follow Tom Pabst set up cause this card doesn't have the advanced menu. All I have under advanced settings is "overlay controls". I got this framerate on my 400 celery with 16 meg card. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions. System: Windows XP Home ed 1.7 Pentium 4 256 133 ram Nvidia Riva TNT 2 model 64 video card Analog devices integrated sound directx 8.1 80 gig HD blah blah blah Thanks again

Any chance you can get the place you bought it from to install a better Video card? Sorry, can't help with the problem though :-( "Dixiemandan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK gurus need some advice. Bought a new Sony Vaio desktop. Price was > right...drawback is video card. TNT 2 model 64 32 meg. Can't replace itfor a > year without voiding warranty on the computer. When I first loaded N4 d3dgave > 35-38 fps with all features on and world view at half. Decided to try openGL > and got 19-22. Switched back to d3d and now get 22-27. Also now whenracing AL > the car wont come up to speed. Sounds like engine is sputtering, almostlike > hitting a rev limiter but much too soon. All happened after I tried openGL. > All was fine before. Can Rivatuner be used by a computer moron? Sure don'twant > to screw it up further. Can't follow Tom Pabst set up cause this carddoesn't > have the advanced menu. All I have under advanced settings is "overlay > controls". I got this framerate on my 400 celery with 16 meg card. Thanksin

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> advance for any and all suggestions. > System: > Windows XP Home ed > 1.7 Pentium 4 > 256 133 ram > Nvidia Riva TNT 2 model 64 video card > Analog devices integrated sound > directx 8.1 > 80 gig HD blah blah blah > Thanks again

Have you tried the later Nvidia drivers, like the 21.83's? What drivers are you using now? You should be able to tell in the nvidia tab on your properties. You may want to go to nvidia.com and grab the 21.83 official drivers. Be sure and follow the instructions for installing them. You probably have vsynch enabled in OpenGL, and /or antialiasing on. The Nvidia drivers will give you the options to enable/disable these and more in both opengl and d3d. Open GL should give you the best performance in N4. Don Burnette "Dixiemandan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > OK gurus need some advice. Bought a new Sony Vaio desktop. Price was > right...drawback is video card. TNT 2 model 64 32 meg. Can't replace itfor a > year without voiding warranty on the computer. When I first loaded N4 d3dgave > 35-38 fps with all features on and world view at half. Decided to try openGL > and got 19-22. Switched back to d3d and now get 22-27. Also now whenracing AL > the car wont come up to speed. Sounds like engine is sputtering, almostlike > hitting a rev limiter but much too soon. All happened after I tried openGL. > All was fine before. Can Rivatuner be used by a computer moron? Sure don'twant > to screw it up further. Can't follow Tom Pabst set up cause this carddoesn't > have the advanced menu. All I have under advanced settings is "overlay > controls". I got this framerate on my 400 celery with 16 meg card. Thanksin

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> advance for any and all suggestions. > System: > Windows XP Home ed > 1.7 Pentium 4 > 256 133 ram > Nvidia Riva TNT 2 model 64 video card > Analog devices integrated sound > directx 8.1 > 80 gig HD blah blah blah > Thanks again

That video card is an incredible bottleneck in the company of the p4. I would ask the shop if they can help you out with a Ge-Force upgrade. iksteh "Dixiemandan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... <snip>

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> System: > Windows XP Home ed > 1.7 Pentium 4 > 256 133 ram > Nvidia Riva TNT 2 model 64 video card > Analog devices integrated sound > directx 8.1 > 80 gig HD blah blah blah > Thanks again

Thanks folks. As for the store upgrading the card their response was that the warranty would still be good "if the new video card isn't the problem". Thanks for the driver suggestion Don, I'll give em a try. One good feature of Win XP is the driver rollback feature. If the new ones don't improve performance I can just roll back to the original. Any experience with Rivatuner...out there?

HI DON I get flickering when I disable V syn any idea what's wrong ??? Don Burnette <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XIEM7.22620$[email hidden].. . > Have you tried the later Nvidia drivers, like the21.83's? What drivers are > you using now? You should be able to tell in thenvidia tab on your > properties. You may want to go to nvidia.com and grabthe 21.83 official > drivers. Be sure and follow the instructions forinstalling them. > You probably have vsynch enabled in OpenGL, and /orantialiasing on. The > Nvidia drivers will give you the options toenable/disable these and more in

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> both opengl and d3d. > Open GL should give you the best performance in N4. > > Don Burnette > > > > "Dixiemandan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > OK gurus need some advice. Bought a new Sony Vaio

desktop. Price was > > right...drawback is video card. TNT 2 model 64 32meg. Can't replace it > for a > > year without voiding warranty on the computer. WhenI first loaded N4 d3d > gave > > 35-38 fps with all features on and world view athalf. Decided to try open > GL > > and got 19-22. Switched back to d3d and now get22-27. Also now when > racing AL > > the car wont come up to speed. Sounds like engineis sputtering, almost > like > > hitting a rev limiter but much too soon. Allhappened after I tried open > GL. > > All was fine before. Can Rivatuner be used by acomputer moron? Sure don't > want > > to screw it up further. Can't follow Tom Pabst setup cause this card > doesn't > > have the advanced menu. All I have under advancedsettings is "overlay > > controls". I got this framerate on my 400 celerywith 16 meg card. Thanks

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> in > > advance for any and all suggestions. > > System: > > Windows XP Home ed > > 1.7 Pentium 4 > > 256 133 ram > > Nvidia Riva TNT 2 model 64 video card > > Analog devices integrated sound > > directx 8.1 > > 80 gig HD blah blah blah > > Thanks again > >

Hmm, not you shouldn't get flickering. Not sure what might be causing that. Don Burnette "john Metcow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> HI DON > > I get flickering when I disable V syn > any idea what's wrong ??? > > > > Don Burnette <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XIEM7.22620$[email hidden].. > . > > Have you tried the later Nvidia drivers, like the > 21.83's? What drivers are > > you using now? You should be able to tell in the > nvidia tab on your > > properties. You may want to go to nvidia.com and grab > the 21.83 official > > drivers. Be sure and follow the instructions for > installing them. > > You probably have vsynch enabled in OpenGL, and /or > antialiasing on. The > > Nvidia drivers will give you the options to > enable/disable these and more in > > both opengl and d3d. > > Open GL should give you the best performance in N4. > > > > Don Burnette > > > > > > > > "Dixiemandan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > OK gurus need some advice. Bought a new Sony Vaio > desktop. Price was > > > right...drawback is video card. TNT 2 model 64 32 > meg. Can't replace it > > for a > > > year without voiding warranty on the computer. When > I first loaded N4 d3d > > gave > > > 35-38 fps with all features on and world view at > half. Decided to try open > > GL > > > and got 19-22. Switched back to d3d and now get > 22-27. Also now when > > racing AL > > > the car wont come up to speed. Sounds like engine > is sputtering, almost > > like > > > hitting a rev limiter but much too soon. All > happened after I tried open > > GL. > > > All was fine before. Can Rivatuner be used by a > computer moron? Sure don't > > want > > > to screw it up further. Can't follow Tom Pabst set > up cause this card > > doesn't > > > have the advanced menu. All I have under advanced > settings is "overlay > > > controls". I got this framerate on my 400 celery > with 16 meg card. Thanks > > in > > > advance for any and all suggestions. > > > System: > > > Windows XP Home ed > > > 1.7 Pentium 4 > > > 256 133 ram > > > Nvidia Riva TNT 2 model 64 video card > > > Analog devices integrated sound > > > directx 8.1 > > > 80 gig HD blah blah blah > > > Thanks again > > > > >

>john Metcow <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:[email hidden]... > HI DON > > I get flickering when I disable V syn > any idea what's wrong ??? > Could be too high or too low a refresh rate. 60-85 Hz seems to be the normal sweet spot. -- - Will DeRivera - http://www.numic.net - http://www.luxt.com