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Re: NOTICE of Newsgroup Removal: rec.autos.simulators

27 posts by 15 people · 21 Nov 2001 22:41 UTC - 23 Nov 2001 07:08 UTC

Fake newsgroup removal notice and r.a.s. trolls of old

Steve Blankenship warned that a 'newsgroup removal' notice was a troll's forgery, and another poster explained that replying to HipCrime's cross-posts floods news.admin.net-abuse. Gerry Aitken posted a crude parody reply, and the thread reminisced about past r.a.s. troublemakers, including the 1997 'Le Chicken' episode.

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Steve Blankenship 21 Nov 2001 22:41 UTC#150997
In case you're wondering, Ignore the idiot troll amusing himself... SB "Dickie Gonzales - Usenet Administrator" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7Ued6.7815$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (14 lines)> Newsgroup rec.autos.simulators slated for REMOVAL on 21 Nov 2001 22:09:49 GMT. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hello my name is Dickie Gonzales, and I am writing to alert > the regular readers of rec.autos.simulators that it will be removed > from Usenet on 21 Nov 2001 22:09:49 GMT. This action will be taken by all > news servers, so clients are advised to update their > readers accordingly. > > Thank you for your kind attention, > Dickie Gonzales > > -- > I was rejecting coconuts to filthy Alejandro, who's ordering to the car's navel.
Gerry Aitken 21 Nov 2001 23:07 UTC#151024
Thanks for the 'alert' dickie! BTW, while you were administering to usenet, I shagged your ugly wife. :) She was the scabbard and I was the sword, so to speak, and a mighty fine fit she was too. While 'tis true to say, she was sweeter taken than she ever would be willing, in truth, it's fair to add, I'm sure not all of her objected. ;) Dickie Gonzales - Usenet Administrator wrote while oblivious to the fact his wife was being pumped: <SNIP> Sneering regards Gerry Aitken
Hi Gerry, reminds me of the guy who wanted to take over r.a.s a few years ago... I still remember him saying something to the effect that we should trust him, he'd be a good leader... <g> Achim "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Thanks for the 'alert' dickie!
(unknown) 22 Nov 2001 03:45 UTC#150972
Steve Blankenship <[email hidden]> wrote: > Ignore the idiot troll amusing himself.... Please do NOT post responses to HipCrime's post without checking the "Newsgroups:" header in your post or you will be doing just what he wants. Those posts are all going to news.admin.net-abuse.email. His goal is to get you to flood that group for him. --------------------------------------------------- Don't worry about it. The group is not going down. The message was pure harassment (of news.admin.net-abuse.email, actually). The message is a HipCrime post. It is a "punishment run" rather than one of his spam runs. There are newsgroups in which 90% of the posts are his spam (usually a BTV Industries modem hijacking porn dialer, though other times "affiliate" porn spam). The goal of this post is to get you to post a followup. Why? So you can help him out. How? But taking part in his flooding of NANAE (news.admin.net-abuse.email). You can often recognize his posts due to the random Markov text (see the last line in this post) and the fact that his "punishment runs" use a "Followup-To:" header redirecting posts to a newsgroup he wants to get back it if it does not accept him as the Lord High Ruler of Usenet and accept his posts as being properly 90% of the allowed posts (a few months ago, when he targeted a Sherlock Holmes group frequented by many minors, one day, there were 100 posts - over 70 were porn ads apparently from him or the HipClones). A few weeks ago you may have seen an obscenity of Bin Laden buggering Bush. That was to get folks to post followups. They were directected to NANAE (it was at attempt to get you to flood NANAE for him). Then you may have seen a "Formatting Your Hard Disk" post (JavaScript pretending to format your hard disk). That was another. A few days ago you may have seen an illegal obscenity of "little boys - I have tapes to sell and trade" wherein the fraudulent "from" address was that of a regular in NANAE (fraud, identity theft). Soon after than you may have seen "Access Greed" a post supporting spam - again, to get you to post a followup - which was directed to NANAE. Now this. These are all HipCrime or one of his HipClones. If you *do* post a followup, be sure to change the newgroups header so it goes to the group in which you have seen the original post - or you will be doing just what he wants you to do ... help him flood NANAE. ----------------------------------------- You can do a search on message text for "HipCrime" at groups.google.com (USENET) or google.com (the WEB), for example, or visit NANAE (news.admin.net-abuse.email) and post a question about him (there are folks there more knowledgeable than I about his current routines). He is a spammer. He finds and uses open PROXYs (unsecured proxies used on home systems with high bandwidth - cable and DSL modem connections) to post hundreds of thousands of messages - each with a different subject line (he uses a random Markov text generator - you can often recognize his posts, or HipClones - his followers with whom he shares his programmes - by the subject line - often there is random text also in the message, even after embedded UUencoded binaries - the random text is used to avoid being blocked/filtered by systems that block multiple posts of messages with identical bodies/subject_lines). He considers himself the Lord High Ruler of Usenet and strongly objects to those groups that do not accept him or spam and "punishes" them. How to punish such a group? The obvious is to find an open PROXY (high bandwidth) and use that to post hundreds of thousands of messages to the target group - each with a different subject line (so they cannot be blocked by the subject line) - however, in some groups, the members don't fall for it, notice the path/source in the header and block on the source. How to punish such a group? Easy. Don't flood it! Flood every other newsgroup! *But* use messages designed to induce folks in those groups to post a followup message *and* set the "Followup-To:" header in the original post to that of the target group! If twenty folks in each of 20,000 newsgroups each post a followup all of which go to the target newsgroup - a flood! He has managed to get others to flood a newsgroup for him and the posts can't be blocked based on the path since they (the followups) come from all over! -------------------------------------------------------------------- If you want to post a followup message to one of his posts (whatever it is) to alert regulars of your group about what the message is and what it does, after choosing to post, check the "Newsgroups" header in the message. If it has been changed (due to a "Followup-To:" header in the original post to that of a group HipCrime is targetting for punishment) you will have to change it back to the group in which the original post appeared so as not to contribute to flooding the targetted group (as HipCrime desires) and so that the visitors to your group actually get to see your post! Don't worry about his having tricked you. Quite a few have fallen for this ploy. He'll be doing it again, with a different type of post, again (in a week or so) I am sure. He has been around for months. Well, he has been around much longer, but he has been doing this for months...
In article <3bfc74ce$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > >He considers himself the Lord High Ruler of Usenet and strongly >objects to those groups that do not accept him or spam and >"punishes" them. Interesting. Doesn't this suggest the obvious solution of a shallow grave? -Tim
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:41:01 GMT, "Steve Blankenship" <[email hidden]> wrote: >In case you're wondering, Ignore the idiot troll amusing himself... > >SB Just wondering - Is RAS being moderated? I never get the spam posts, I allways only see the replies. I also didn't get the original post of this thread - and I don't think I miss any other posts in threads.. Andre
Quoted text (17 lines)>"Dickie Gonzales - Usenet Administrator" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7Ued6.7815$[email hidden]... >> Newsgroup rec.autos.simulators slated for REMOVAL on 21 Nov 2001 22:09:49 GMT. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Hello my name is Dickie Gonzales, and I am writing to alert >> the regular readers of rec.autos.simulators that it will be removed >> from Usenet on 21 Nov 2001 22:09:49 GMT. This action will be taken by all >> news servers, so clients are advised to update their >> readers accordingly. >> >> Thank you for your kind attention, >> Dickie Gonzales >> >> -- >> I was rejecting coconuts to filthy Alejandro, who's ordering to the car's navel. > >
On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:29:34 +0100, "Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>Hi Gerry, > >reminds me of the guy who wanted to take over r.a.s a few years ago... I >still remember him saying something to the effect that we should trust him, >he'd be a good leader... <g> > >Achim
That was Ymenard? :) Andre
Quoted text (7 lines)> >"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Thanks for the 'alert' dickie! > > >
[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes:
Quoted text (8 lines)> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:41:01 GMT, "Steve Blankenship" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >In case you're wondering, Ignore the idiot troll amusing himself... > > > >SB > > Just wondering - Is RAS being moderated?
No. > I never get the spam posts, I allways only see the replies. It may be your newsserver. I didn't get that post either AFAIR > I also didn't get the original post of this thread - and I don't think > I miss any other posts in threads.. Do you miss any posts at all ? :) -- Olav K. Malmin, anonymous news-addict ass. remove .spam when replying
Olav K. Malmin 22 Nov 2001 09:31 UTC#528633
Quoted text (8 lines)> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:41:01 GMT, "Steve Blankenship" > >In case you're wondering, Ignore the idiot troll amusing himself... > >SB > Just wondering - Is RAS being moderated?
No. It may be your newsserver. I didn't get that post either AFAIR Do you miss any posts at all ? :) -- Olav K. Malmin, anonymous news-*** ass. remove .spam when replying
On 22 Nov 2001 10:31:23 +0100, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)>[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:41:01 GMT, "Steve Blankenship" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >In case you're wondering, Ignore the idiot troll amusing himself... >> > >> >SB >> >> Just wondering - Is RAS being moderated? > >No. > >> I never get the spam posts, I allways only see the replies. > >It may be your newsserver. I didn't get that post either AFAIR
But it's so typical, its allways the spam mails than don't show up on my server - which is a good thing, but I wonder how come.. Andre
Quoted text (9 lines)> >> I also didn't get the original post of this thread - and I don't think >> I miss any other posts in threads.. > >Do you miss any posts at all ? :) > >-- >Olav K. Malmin, anonymous news-addict ass. >remove .spam when replying
[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > But it's so typical, its allways the spam mails than don't show up on > my server - which is a good thing, but I wonder how come.. Server may not accept heavy crossposting, acticles that are identical and posted to 15 different groups etc. -- -asbjxrn
Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote on 22 Nov 2001: > Just wondering - Is RAS being moderated? > I never get the spam posts, I allways only see the replies.<snip> Are you using cis.dfn.de? They seem to be very good about filtering out this type of spam (though I still get to see it 'cause of all the people who insist on quoting it *in full* in their replies - grrr!) -- Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com
On 22 Nov 2001 12:00:01 GMT, [email hidden] (David Buttery) wrote:
Quoted text (10 lines)>Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote on 22 Nov >2001: > >> Just wondering - Is RAS being moderated? >> I never get the spam posts, I allways only see the replies. ><snip> > >Are you using cis.dfn.de? They seem to be very good about filtering out >this type of spam (though I still get to see it 'cause of all the >people who insist on quoting it *in full* in their replies - grrr!)
Indeed :) That's probably it, thanks (thanks to asbjorn too :) Andre > >-- >Sceptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which >deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense -- Carl Sagan > >The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com
Hi mate Joachim Trensz wrote: > > Hi Gerry, > > reminds me of the guy who wanted to take over r.a.s a few years ago... I > still remember him saying something to the effect that we should trust him, > he'd be a good leader... <g> Tom Pabst? Gerry
"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> Hi mate > > Joachim Trensz wrote: > > > > Hi Gerry, > > > > reminds me of the guy who wanted to take over r.a.s a few years ago... I > > still remember him saying something to the effect that we should trust
him, > > he'd be a good leader... <g> > > Tom Pabst? > > Gerry I thought it was some French guy. :) Don Burnette
Joachim Trensz 22 Nov 2001 17:32 UTC#528635
Hi Andre, Could be. I think he was French, and I was speechless when I read his messages <g> Achim
Hi Spamless, thanks for the warning. My header in Outlook Express only shows r.a.s - is it safe to assume that my reply then only goes to r.a.s? Or should I look elsewhere, too, to eliminate cross-posting-addresses? Thanks in advance Achim
Joachim Trensz wrote: > > Hi Gerry, > > > Tom Pabst? > > sounds like him ;-) Hehe, from the same mould maybe. The type that can't open their mouths without a big lump of shit falling out. But they do add colour ;) Gerry
>"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote > Could be. I think he was French, and I was speechless when I read his > messages <g> Must... protect... my.. past.... heritage... LOL -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
>"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote > > reminds me of the guy who wanted to take over r.a.s a few years ago... I > > still remember him saying something to the effect that we should trusthim, > > he'd be a good leader... <g> > > Tom Pabst? <Ouch> Actually, you guys don't remember LeChicken? Here's the original post from 1997 : ============================== I am Le Chicken! On this Friday, December the 12th, 1997, I enter rec.autos.simulators and I hereby proclaim myself the Official Chicken of r.a.s., and supreme ruler of all chicken-kind. (Which pretty much excludes most of you...) I will occassionally take part in sensible (..and sometimes not so sensible) discussions, but my main purpose in this news group will be to make fun out of, poke fun at, to be funny (..or at least try), and to lighten up the atmosphere in the newsgroup. I have some basic commandments (..more of which might be added at a later date) which I hope everyone will follow: 1. I am Le Chicken 2. I am the Official Chicken and Poultry Representative of this newsgroup. 3. I am the supreme ruler of all chicken-kind (..again, that excludes most of you). 4. There is no other Le Chicken besides me. 5. There are no chickens higher than me. Ignore any of these commandments, and I'll ship you off to KFC faster than you say "Kluck". Le Chicken Official Chicken of r.a.s. =================== <roll eyes> -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
ymenard wrote: > > >"Joachim Trensz" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Could be. I think he was French, and I was speechless when I read his > > messages <g> > > Must... protect... my.. past.... heritage... LOL LeChicken!! I miss him... <g> -- Fester
Gerry, Funniest post I've read in years! Pure Python. --Steve "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (16 lines)> Thanks for the 'alert' dickie! > > BTW, while you were administering to usenet, I shagged your ugly wife. > :) She was the scabbard and I was the sword, so to speak, and a mighty > fine fit she was too. While 'tis true to say, she was sweeter taken than > she ever would be willing, in truth, it's fair to add, I'm sure not all > of her objected. ;) > > Dickie Gonzales - Usenet Administrator wrote while oblivious to the fact > his wife was being pumped: > > <SNIP> > > Sneering regards > > Gerry Aitken
"ymenard" <[email hidden]> writes:
Quoted text (13 lines)> >"Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > reminds me of the guy who wanted to take over r.a.s a few years ago... I > > > still remember him saying something to the effect that we should trust > him, > > > he'd be a good leader... <g> > > > > Tom Pabst? > > <Ouch> > > Actually, you guys don't remember LeChicken? Here's the original post from > 1997 : >
[SNIP] Crap, I remember that! -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

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