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NASCAR 4+LinkSys+Multiplayer=Paperweight

13 posts by 10 people · 24 Oct 2001 16:14 UTC - 26 Oct 2001 03:25 UTC

AC_Skinner 24 Oct 2001 16:14 UTC#156333
Hola, I've had bad luck with getting Nascar 4 to work with my LinkSys router, I don't even mind setting my workstation up as a DMZHost for online racing (although all other games can be made to work, except N4). Here is my problem, when connecting to Multiplayer I can see the online servers at Sierra.com, I get an MLAT response, I do not get a ping response and cannot join any servers for racing. Our League has a dedicated server using IP and it's not listed, I cannot join it either. I'm on @home, running a LinkSys Cable/DSL unit patched to BIOs v1.40.1, I have three computers with Static IP configured. One of the machines is a GPL Dedicated Server and it works just as it is supposed to work. Is this a forwarding issue? Or an *.ini issue, I've looked and the *.ini file but I'm not sure what to change. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for you help. Regards, AC_Skinner GROWL Admin
I have connected to and hosted races through a Linksys router without using DMZ with no problems at all. For hosting you need to forward some ports but that's it. Try making yourself pingable in the router setup, although this shouldn't be needed. "AC_Skinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (29 lines)> Hola, > > I've had bad luck with getting Nascar 4 to work with my LinkSys > router, I don't even mind setting my workstation up as a DMZHost for > online racing (although all other games can be made to work, except > N4). > > Here is my problem, when connecting to Multiplayer I can see the > online servers at Sierra.com, I get an MLAT response, I do not get a > ping response and cannot join any servers for racing. Our League has a > dedicated server using IP and it's not listed, I cannot join it > either. > > I'm on @home, running a LinkSys Cable/DSL unit patched to BIOs > v1.40.1, I have three computers with Static IP configured. One of the > machines is a GPL Dedicated Server and it works just as it is supposed > to work. > > Is this a forwarding issue? Or an *.ini issue, I've looked and the > *.ini file but I'm not sure what to change. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance for you help. > > Regards, > > AC_Skinner > GROWL Admin
I have run both DHCP and static IPs on each PC with no issues. "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3bd7072f$[email hidden]... > The one thing that jumps out at me compared to my setup is the fact yousaid > your 3 computers have static IP addressess. I have a simular setup but I'm > using the Router as DHCP for my local lan ip addresses. I'm not 100% sure > but it seems like I read somewhere if you had static IP addresses you hadto > have an IP from your ISP for each machine. Now don't hold me to that, but > its something for you to check into. I know that there was a reason I went > with DHCP, but I can't remember exactly what. I can connect to a N4server > either IP or thru WON.net with no problems, but I have not tried hostingto > know if that works or not. > > > MadDAWG > >
The one thing that jumps out at me compared to my setup is the fact you said your 3 computers have static IP addressess. I have a simular setup but I'm using the Router as DHCP for my local lan ip addresses. I'm not 100% sure but it seems like I read somewhere if you had static IP addresses you had to have an IP from your ISP for each machine. Now don't hold me to that, but its something for you to check into. I know that there was a reason I went with DHCP, but I can't remember exactly what. I can connect to a N4 server either IP or thru WON.net with no problems, but I have not tried hosting to know if that works or not. MadDAWG
Same here.. there is obviously something else wrong/wierd with his system other than N4 "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:KSCB7.45929$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> I have run both DHCP and static IPs on each PC with no issues. > > "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3bd7072f$[email hidden]... > > The one thing that jumps out at me compared to my setup is the fact you > said > > your 3 computers have static IP addressess. I have a simular setup but
I'm > > using the Router as DHCP for my local lan ip addresses. I'm not 100%sure > > but it seems like I read somewhere if you had static IP addresses youhad > to > > have an IP from your ISP for each machine. Now don't hold me to that,but > > its something for you to check into. I know that there was a reason Iwent
Quoted text (12 lines)> > with DHCP, but I can't remember exactly what. I can connect to a N4 > server > > either IP or thru WON.net with no problems, but I have not tried hosting > to > > know if that works or not. > > > > > > MadDAWG > > > > > >
AC, in the server.txt file in your N4 folder you'll find info about hosting behind a router, and you should forward ports 32766 thru 32809 to allow up to 42 users to connect. Ed -- Ed White [email hidden] "Sideways, Slideways, and Every Other Ways" DW on Fox, 2001 "AC_Skinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hola, > > I've had bad luck with getting Nascar 4 to work with my LinkSys > router, I don't even mind setting my workstation up as a DMZHost for > online racing (although all other games can be made to work, except > N4). > > Here is my problem, when connecting to Multiplayer I can see the > online servers at Sierra.com, I get an MLAT response, I do not get a > ping response and cannot join any servers for racing. Our League has a > dedicated server using IP and it's not listed, I cannot join it > either. > > I'm on @home, running a LinkSys Cable/DSL unit patched to BIOs > v1.40.1, I have three computers with Static IP configured. One of the > machines is a GPL Dedicated Server and it works just as it is supposed > to work. > > Is this a forwarding issue? Or an *.ini issue, I've looked and the > *.ini file but I'm not sure what to change. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks in advance for you help. > > Regards, > > AC_Skinner > GROWL Admin
Hola, According to the LinkSys documentation, in order for Port Forwarding to work, you need Static internal IP addresses. Of course, I believe everything I read... From Microsoft of course ;-) L8r. AC_Skinner GROWL Co-Director/Admin "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<3bd7072f$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (12 lines)> The one thing that jumps out at me compared to my setup is the fact you said > your 3 computers have static IP addressess. I have a simular setup but I'm > using the Router as DHCP for my local lan ip addresses. I'm not 100% sure > but it seems like I read somewhere if you had static IP addresses you had to > have an IP from your ISP for each machine. Now don't hold me to that, but > its something for you to check into. I know that there was a reason I went > with DHCP, but I can't remember exactly what. I can connect to a N4 server > either IP or thru WON.net with no problems, but I have not tried hosting to > know if that works or not. > > > MadDAWG
So, the GPL machine that's hosting is also behind the same router? If so, I assume you're forwarding the default GPL port range to that machine's IP address? If you haven't noticed, the default GPL and N4 port ranges are overlapped (in fact they are identical, except N4 has a higher range since it allows up to 42 client connections). As a result, if you're forwarding the default range to your GPL server, the N4 clients running on the other machines will not be able to get ping responses or connect to any servers as all of the return the packets will be forwarded to the GPL machine. Assuming this is what's going on, to get around it you'll simply need to configure one or the other game to use a different (and non-overlapping) port range, which can be done by specifying a non-standard net_server_port in the game's CORE.INI - Eric "AC_Skinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (18 lines)> I've had bad luck with getting Nascar 4 to work with my LinkSys > router, I don't even mind setting my workstation up as a DMZHost for > online racing (although all other games can be made to work, except > N4). > > Here is my problem, when connecting to Multiplayer I can see the > online servers at Sierra.com, I get an MLAT response, I do not get a > ping response and cannot join any servers for racing. Our League has a > dedicated server using IP and it's not listed, I cannot join it > either. > > I'm on @home, running a LinkSys Cable/DSL unit patched to BIOs > v1.40.1, I have three computers with Static IP configured. One of the > machines is a GPL Dedicated Server and it works just as it is supposed > to work. > > Is this a forwarding issue? Or an *.ini issue, I've looked and the > *.ini file but I'm not sure what to change.
I have same problem with almost the same exact setup. It has to be the patch. I was joining, pinging and even hosting races behind my router before the latest (greatest?) patch. I have received no response from Papy. Hey AC, we should keep in touch over this problem. E-mail me. Thanks for your help, Rodney On 24 Oct 2001 09:14:27 -0700, [email hidden] (AC_Skinner) wrote:
Quoted text (29 lines)>Hola, > >I've had bad luck with getting Nascar 4 to work with my LinkSys >router, I don't even mind setting my workstation up as a DMZHost for >online racing (although all other games can be made to work, except >N4). > >Here is my problem, when connecting to Multiplayer I can see the >online servers at Sierra.com, I get an MLAT response, I do not get a >ping response and cannot join any servers for racing. Our League has a >dedicated server using IP and it's not listed, I cannot join it >either. > >I'm on @home, running a LinkSys Cable/DSL unit patched to BIOs >v1.40.1, I have three computers with Static IP configured. One of the >machines is a GPL Dedicated Server and it works just as it is supposed >to work. > >Is this a forwarding issue? Or an *.ini issue, I've looked and the >*.ini file but I'm not sure what to change. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks in advance for you help. > >Regards, > >AC_Skinner >GROWL Admin
According to AC the answer Eric had given fixed the problem. Which is cool. I miss racing against AC, as I can almost always beat him. :) btgoss "Rodney C. Keller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (45 lines)> I have same problem with almost the same exact setup. > > It has to be the patch. I was joining, pinging and even hosting races > behind my router before the latest (greatest?) patch. > > I have received no response from Papy. > > Hey AC, we should keep in touch over this problem. E-mail me. > > Thanks for your help, > Rodney > > On 24 Oct 2001 09:14:27 -0700, [email hidden] (AC_Skinner) > wrote: > > >Hola, > > > >I've had bad luck with getting Nascar 4 to work with my LinkSys > >router, I don't even mind setting my workstation up as a DMZHost for > >online racing (although all other games can be made to work, except > >N4). > > > >Here is my problem, when connecting to Multiplayer I can see the > >online servers at Sierra.com, I get an MLAT response, I do not get a > >ping response and cannot join any servers for racing. Our League has a > >dedicated server using IP and it's not listed, I cannot join it > >either. > > > >I'm on @home, running a LinkSys Cable/DSL unit patched to BIOs > >v1.40.1, I have three computers with Static IP configured. One of the > >machines is a GPL Dedicated Server and it works just as it is supposed > >to work. > > > >Is this a forwarding issue? Or an *.ini issue, I've looked and the > >*.ini file but I'm not sure what to change. > > > >Any suggestions? > > > >Thanks in advance for you help. > > > >Regards, > > > >AC_Skinner > >GROWL Admin >
Hey schooner :-) 'CrashMan' here... I have a linky and host and race with no problems. When I host I forward the ports 35700->35750 to my internal server (different machine than my race box) and can race on that machine and outside machines with no troubles. You have to do a little change to the server launch string and tell the guys they have to connect to a different port but it's not going to kill anyone. Performance is better than when I had the 'server' connected directly and used 'ICS' for the internal connections. "Schooner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XWBB7.45914$[email hidden]... > I have connected to and hosted races through a Linksys router withoutusing
Quoted text (37 lines)> DMZ with no problems at all. > For hosting you need to forward some ports but that's it. Try making > yourself pingable in the router setup, although this shouldn't be needed. > > "AC_Skinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hola, > > > > I've had bad luck with getting Nascar 4 to work with my LinkSys > > router, I don't even mind setting my workstation up as a DMZHost for > > online racing (although all other games can be made to work, except > > N4). > > > > Here is my problem, when connecting to Multiplayer I can see the > > online servers at Sierra.com, I get an MLAT response, I do not get a > > ping response and cannot join any servers for racing. Our League has a > > dedicated server using IP and it's not listed, I cannot join it > > either. > > > > I'm on @home, running a LinkSys Cable/DSL unit patched to BIOs > > v1.40.1, I have three computers with Static IP configured. One of the > > machines is a GPL Dedicated Server and it works just as it is supposed > > to work. > > > > Is this a forwarding issue? Or an *.ini issue, I've looked and the > > *.ini file but I'm not sure what to change. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Thanks in advance for you help. > > > > Regards, > > > > AC_Skinner > > GROWL Admin > >
doesn't matter, as the Linksys throws class C addresses that are "private" non-internet routable. The Linksys uses NAT (network address translation) to route the packets. If his gateway is 192.168.1.1 and he put his DNS server addresses in his TCP-IP settings, he should be good to go. That's for all his internet needs on those systems though, not just N4 via multiplayer. Perhaps he didn't get the connection portion working properly in N4 itself... that can be a bit tricky sometimes for folks. On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:19:33 -0400, "MadDAWG" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)>The one thing that jumps out at me compared to my setup is the fact you said >your 3 computers have static IP addressess. I have a simular setup but I'm >using the Router as DHCP for my local lan ip addresses. I'm not 100% sure >but it seems like I read somewhere if you had static IP addresses you had to >have an IP from your ISP for each machine. Now don't hold me to that, but >its something for you to check into. I know that there was a reason I went >with DHCP, but I can't remember exactly what. I can connect to a N4 server >either IP or thru WON.net with no problems, but I have not tried hosting to >know if that works or not. > > >MadDAWG >
Fixed problem. I deleted all of my forwarding info on my router. Saved changes. This allowed me to join and ping races. I then put the forwarding info back in and saved. I could race and host. Hope this helps someone else. (Seems sketchy that it worked, but it did). Rodney On Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:08:58 GMT, Rodney C. Keller <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (44 lines)>I have same problem with almost the same exact setup. > >It has to be the patch. I was joining, pinging and even hosting races >behind my router before the latest (greatest?) patch. > >I have received no response from Papy. > >Hey AC, we should keep in touch over this problem. E-mail me. > >Thanks for your help, >Rodney > >On 24 Oct 2001 09:14:27 -0700, [email hidden] (AC_Skinner) >wrote: > >>Hola, >> >>I've had bad luck with getting Nascar 4 to work with my LinkSys >>router, I don't even mind setting my workstation up as a DMZHost for >>online racing (although all other games can be made to work, except >>N4). >> >>Here is my problem, when connecting to Multiplayer I can see the >>online servers at Sierra.com, I get an MLAT response, I do not get a >>ping response and cannot join any servers for racing. Our League has a >>dedicated server using IP and it's not listed, I cannot join it >>either. >> >>I'm on @home, running a LinkSys Cable/DSL unit patched to BIOs >>v1.40.1, I have three computers with Static IP configured. One of the >>machines is a GPL Dedicated Server and it works just as it is supposed >>to work. >> >>Is this a forwarding issue? Or an *.ini issue, I've looked and the >>*.ini file but I'm not sure what to change. >> >>Any suggestions? >> >>Thanks in advance for you help. >> >>Regards, >> >>AC_Skinner >>GROWL Admin

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