N4 Patch won't install! It deleted my Nascar Racing 4 .exe!!

Hi, I put the patch in the same directory as the game. I seem to remember this is how I got around patch problems with Sierra and Papyrus. Well, I received some error message (as expected!) during the patch problem, then I tried to run the patch again. Low and behold it couldn't find the Nascar Racing 4 exe as it got deleted during the patching "process". I didn't see anything on the Papy site about where to put the patch. Am I not supposed to put it in the same directory as the game? I guess now I have to reinstall N4!! Thanks, -pw

I'm not sure why putting it in your N4 directory would cause that too happen, but there certainly is no need to run it from within the directory. Every patch I have installed I have downloaded to a "temp" directory and installed from there. Don Burnette "pw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9qlenj$7s7$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > I put the patch in the same directory as the game. I seem to remember > this is how I got around patch problems with Sierra and Papyrus. > > Well, I received some error message (as expected!) during the patch > problem, then I tried to run the patch again. Low and behold it > couldn't find the Nascar Racing 4 exe as it got deleted during the > patching "process". > > I didn't see anything on the Papy site about where to put the patch. > Am I not supposed to put it in the same directory as the game? > > I guess now I have to reinstall N4!! > > Thanks, > > -pw

Typical Sierra/Papy! I reinstalled N4 and it AGAIN DELETED THE EXE! All it left was a readme for the new version! I have never seen a buggier and more frustrating patching process, etc.. than with N4. Screw the new patch. Hopefully I can start from scratch and patch to last version. -pw

hmmmm....wonder how come nobody else is pissing and moaning about the patch install..mine went fine....Papy/Sierra @ fault?..dont think so..dont be so sharp of tongue dude...its YOUR shit that aint right! -- Michael Ross

>hmmmm....wonder how come nobody else is pissing and moaning about the patch >install..mine went fine....Papy/Sierra @ fault?..dont think so..dont be so >sharp of tongue dude...its YOUR shit that aint right! So, what could be wrong with my ****, eh? I had Windows explorer open one time during the install. I saw the N4 exe vanish! Twice the patch deleted the N4 exe! And it's MY fault?? -pw

did you download into a temp folder?....is it 8.25 megs?..maybe its a bad download?...I dont know...something goofy is going on with your pc. -- Michael Ross

>hmmmm....wonder how come nobody else is pissing and moaning about the patch >install..mine went fine....Papy/Sierra @ fault?..dont think so..dont be so >sharp of tongue dude...its YOUR shit that aint right! Again, My **** DUDE????? Did you have any extras installed, or just an ordinary install?? Here is part of the reason I am complaining about Papy/Sierra (and why I am bothering to respond to someone like yourself is beyond me!): -I uninstalled N4 and reinstalled it -It would not load (stuck at the splash screen). Been there many times and SO HAVE OTHERS HERE! -If I remember correctly, that is because the install program can not handle it's own long file name with spaces in it (that includes the "Start In" box of the shortcut and the shortcut itself). -I ran the patch, and it did install w/o any errors and it "finished" this time. -But, again, N4 would not run. -I look in the c:\papyrus\Nascar Racing 4 directory, and THERE IS NO "NASCAR RACING 4.exe"! Instead the patch replaced it with "Nascar~1.exe" Okay, Know-it-all! That is MY fault?? How do you suggest I get N4 up and running now, DUDE! I know! Maybe I ought to start smoking the stuff you are smoking, eh? -pw

>did you download into a temp folder?....is it 8.25 megs?..maybe its a bad >download?...I dont know...something goofy is going on with your pc. Nah, nothing with my PC. It's just N4 that has given my problems since the day it came out. It is now installed on a brand new (and different) PC. The patch did "complete" after I uninstalled and removed it completely, then repatched it. But, now it won't run because the game/patch can't handle it's own long-file names (with spaces in it). Thanks! -pw

http://community.sierra.com/WebX?[email hidden]^1@.ee78371 try this link and start smoking dude..you need it! -- Michael Ross

Been checking out the forums and its seems many are having problems with the patch. So maybe his shit is right and patch isn't! :-) Pete "Michael Ross" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FErz7.88385$[email hidden]... > hmmmm....wonder how come nobody else is pissing and moaning about thepatch

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> install..mine went fine....Papy/Sierra @ fault?..dont think so..dont be so > sharp of tongue dude...its YOUR shit that aint right! > > -- > Michael Ross > >

Even with the older patch, I had this problem on my system. The patch renames NASCAR Racing 4.exe to NASCAR~1.exe. I just go back in and rename it and tada. It works. Now, I'm having a problem connecting with the Sierra server for multiplayer matchups. It keeps saying my game is out of date, runs the auto updater, and then says my game is up to date. I know it's not a CD Key issue :). Anyone else having this problem? In article <rnvz7.7399$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Been checking out the forums and its seems many are having > problems with the patch. So maybe his shit is right and patch isn't! :-) > > Pete > > "Michael Ross" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:FErz7.88385$[email hidden]... > > hmmmm....wonder how come nobody else is pissing and moaning about the > patch > > install..mine went fine....Papy/Sierra @ fault?..dont think so..dont be so > > sharp of tongue dude...its YOUR shit that aint right! > > > > -- > > Michael Ross > > > > > > >

What fixed my problem is renaming these files back to the long format. "NASCAR~1.EXE" > "NASCAR Racing 4.EXE" "RENDSE~1.DLL" > "RENDSERVER.DLL" "SIERRA~1.DLL" > "SIERRAUPN4RES.DLL" To see the last 2 files you need to make sure that you are viewing all files in the Windows Explorer "View" settings for you N4 folder. pw wrote:

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> Hi, > > I put the patch in the same directory as the game. I seem to remember > this is how I got around patch problems with Sierra and Papyrus. > > Well, I received some error message (as expected!) during the patch > problem, then I tried to run the patch again. Low and behold it > couldn't find the Nascar Racing 4 exe as it got deleted during the > patching "process". > > I didn't see anything on the Papy site about where to put the patch. > Am I not supposed to put it in the same directory as the game? > > I guess now I have to reinstall N4!! > > Thanks, > > -pw

Bob Geddes here is right, it simply renamed the same files that the first patch renamed too, big deal. Fix the long filenames and the game will run fine and you will be able to connect to Sierra. Bob Geddes <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> What fixed my problem is renaming these files back to the long format. > > "NASCAR~1.EXE" > "NASCAR Racing 4.EXE" > > "RENDSE~1.DLL" > "RENDSERVER.DLL" > > "SIERRA~1.DLL" > "SIERRAUPN4RES.DLL" > > > To see the last 2 files you need to make sure that you are viewing all > files > in the Windows Explorer "View" settings for you N4 folder. > > pw wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I put the patch in the same directory as the game. I seem to remember > > this is how I got around patch problems with Sierra and Papyrus. > > > > Well, I received some error message (as expected!) during the patch > > problem, then I tried to run the patch again. Low and behold it > > couldn't find the Nascar Racing 4 exe as it got deleted during the > > patching "process". > > > > I didn't see anything on the Papy site about where to put the patch. > > Am I not supposed to put it in the same directory as the game? > > > > I guess now I have to reinstall N4!! > > > > Thanks, > > > > -pw >

I had some problems with the 1.1 patch but lately when I re-installed, when I used the BHMotorsports DL it was fine. All the others would give the LFN corruption. I tried to patch on 3 different machines with all 4 download sources today and they each did the LFN corruption. I'm running WinMe, three different hardware/software configs and the only common thing is Me itself. But... LeagueMates have patched with Me and 2k without problems so I dunno... "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZtCz7.15002$[email hidden]...

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> Bob Geddes here is right, it simply renamed the same files that the first > patch renamed too, big deal. Fix the long filenames and the game will run > fine and you will be able to connect to Sierra. > > > Bob Geddes <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What fixed my problem is renaming these files back to the long format. > > > > "NASCAR~1.EXE" > "NASCAR Racing 4.EXE" > > > > "RENDSE~1.DLL" > "RENDSERVER.DLL" > > > > "SIERRA~1.DLL" > "SIERRAUPN4RES.DLL" > > > > > > To see the last 2 files you need to make sure that you are viewing all > > files > > in the Windows Explorer "View" settings for you N4 folder. > > > > pw wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I put the patch in the same directory as the game. I seem to remember > > > this is how I got around patch problems with Sierra and Papyrus. > > > > > > Well, I received some error message (as expected!) during the patch > > > problem, then I tried to run the patch again. Low and behold it > > > couldn't find the Nascar Racing 4 exe as it got deleted during the > > > patching "process". > > > > > > I didn't see anything on the Papy site about where to put the patch. > > > Am I not supposed to put it in the same directory as the game? > > > > > > I guess now I have to reinstall N4!! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -pw > > > >

Thank you. I missed the rendse~1.dll file. R.A.S. RULEZ! In article <ZtCz7.15002$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> Bob Geddes here is right, it simply renamed the same files that the first > patch renamed too, big deal. Fix the long filenames and the game will run > fine and you will be able to connect to Sierra. > > > Bob Geddes <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What fixed my problem is renaming these files back to the long format. > > > > "NASCAR~1.EXE" > "NASCAR Racing 4.EXE" > > > > "RENDSE~1.DLL" > "RENDSERVER.DLL" > > > > "SIERRA~1.DLL" > "SIERRAUPN4RES.DLL" > > > > > > To see the last 2 files you need to make sure that you are viewing all > > files > > in the Windows Explorer "View" settings for you N4 folder. > > > > pw wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I put the patch in the same directory as the game. I seem to remember > > > this is how I got around patch problems with Sierra and Papyrus. > > > > > > Well, I received some error message (as expected!) during the patch > > > problem, then I tried to run the patch again. Low and behold it > > > couldn't find the Nascar Racing 4 exe as it got deleted during the > > > patching "process". > > > > > > I didn't see anything on the Papy site about where to put the patch. > > > Am I not supposed to put it in the same directory as the game? > > > > > > I guess now I have to reinstall N4!! > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -pw > > > > >

There appears to be a bug in the Wise installer which on some systems can cause long file names to be truncated to 8.3 format during the patch process. The Sierra.com multiplayer login does a CRC check on the executables and DLLs, and if they are not named properly they will not be found and hence fail the check resulting in the "out of date" error. Rename the following files: NASCAR~1.exe > "NASCAR Racing 4.exe" Sierra~1.dll > "SierraUpN4Res.dll" rendse~1.dll > "Rendserver.dll" And perhaps: Paintkit\n4paint~1.rsc > Paintkit\n4paintkit.rsc - Eric "Dan Clarke/GamePen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Even with the older patch, I had this problem on my system. The patch > renames NASCAR Racing 4.exe to NASCAR~1.exe. > > I just go back in and rename it and tada. It works. > > Now, I'm having a problem connecting with the Sierra server for > multiplayer matchups. It keeps saying my game is out of date, runs the > auto updater, and then says my game is up to date. > > I know it's not a CD Key issue :). > > Anyone else having this problem?

>Even with the older patch, I had this problem on my system. The patch >renames NASCAR Racing 4.exe to NASCAR~1.exe. > >I just go back in and rename it and tada. It works. > That's what I did right off the bat. Learned from experience w/ previous N4 patches, etc.. Just wanted to see if surfer/doper dude could figure it out for himself :-) -pw

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>Now, I'm having a problem connecting with the Sierra server for >multiplayer matchups. It keeps saying my game is out of date, runs the >auto updater, and then says my game is up to date. > >I know it's not a CD Key issue :). > >Anyone else having this problem? > > >In article <rnvz7.7399$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> Been checking out the forums and its seems many are having >> problems with the patch. So maybe his shit is right and patch isn't! :-) >> >> Pete >> >> "Michael Ross" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:FErz7.88385$[email hidden]... >> > hmmmm....wonder how come nobody else is pissing and moaning about the >> patch >> > install..mine went fine....Papy/Sierra @ fault?..dont think so..dont be so >> > sharp of tongue dude...its YOUR shit that aint right! >> > >> > -- >> > Michael Ross >> > >> > >> >> >>

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>What fixed my problem is renaming these files back to the long format. > >"NASCAR~1.EXE" > "NASCAR Racing 4.EXE" > >"RENDSE~1.DLL" > "RENDSERVER.DLL" > >"SIERRA~1.DLL" > "SIERRAUPN4RES.DLL" > > >To see the last 2 files you need to make sure that you are viewing all >files >in the Windows Explorer "View" settings for you N4 folder. >

Thanks Bob! I figured out the 1st one. N4 is up and running. What are the last two for? Multiplayer? -pw

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>pw wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I put the patch in the same directory as the game. I seem to remember >> this is how I got around patch problems with Sierra and Papyrus. >> >> Well, I received some error message (as expected!) during the patch >> problem, then I tried to run the patch again. Low and behold it >> couldn't find the Nascar Racing 4 exe as it got deleted during the >> patching "process". >> >> I didn't see anything on the Papy site about where to put the patch. >> Am I not supposed to put it in the same directory as the game? >> >> I guess now I have to reinstall N4!! >> >> Thanks, >> >> -pw

> Been checking out the forums and its seems many are having >problems with the patch. So maybe his shit is right and patch isn't! :-) > > Pete > You are right on Pete! <BG> Anyone know if it's safe to install the Meatwater SoundPack? I did a total reinstall of N4 then applied the patch. The sound is so lame now! Boy did I get used to Meatwater's soundpack! -pw

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>"Michael Ross" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:FErz7.88385$[email hidden]... >> hmmmm....wonder how come nobody else is pissing and moaning about the >patch >> install..mine went fine....Papy/Sierra @ fault?..dont think so..dont be so >> sharp of tongue dude...its YOUR shit that aint right! >> >> -- >> Michael Ross >> >> >

>http://community.sierra.com/WebX?[email hidden]^1@.ee78371 > Thanks for the help/link. -pw >try this link and start smoking dude..you need it!

In article <9qo55c$o1o$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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> > Been checking out the forums and its seems many are having > >problems with the patch. So maybe his shit is right and patch isn't! :-) > > > > Pete > > > > You are right on Pete! <BG> > > Anyone know if it's safe to install the Meatwater SoundPack? I did a > total reinstall of N4 then applied the patch. The sound is so lame > now! Boy did I get used to Meatwater's soundpack!

I patched with Meatwaters sound pack still on there, no problems. Cheers, Rod.

I patched with Mea***ers sound pack still on there, no problems. Cheers, Rod.

Probably renamed, not deleted. -Larry "pw" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9qlenj$7s7$[email hidden]...

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> Hi, > > I put the patch in the same directory as the game. I seem to remember > this is how I got around patch problems with Sierra and Papyrus. > > Well, I received some error message (as expected!) during the patch > problem, then I tried to run the patch again. Low and behold it > couldn't find the Nascar Racing 4 exe as it got deleted during the > patching "process". > > I didn't see anything on the Papy site about where to put the patch. > Am I not supposed to put it in the same directory as the game? > > I guess now I have to reinstall N4!! > > Thanks, > > -pw

This is covered in on their web site. It's a file naming problem. They have a batch file to fix it. -Larry "Dan Clarke/GamePen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Even with the older patch, I had this problem on my system. The patch > renames NASCAR Racing 4.exe to NASCAR~1.exe. > > I just go back in and rename it and tada. It works. > > Now, I'm having a problem connecting with the Sierra server for > multiplayer matchups. It keeps saying my game is out of date, runs the > auto updater, and then says my game is up to date. > > I know it's not a CD Key issue :). > > Anyone else having this problem? > > > In article <rnvz7.7399$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > Been checking out the forums and its seems many are having > > problems with the patch. So maybe his shit is right and patch isn't! :-) > > > > Pete > > > > "Michael Ross" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:FErz7.88385$[email hidden]... > > > hmmmm....wonder how come nobody else is pissing and moaning about the > > patch > > > install..mine went fine....Papy/Sierra @ fault?..dont think so..dont

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> > > sharp of tongue dude...its YOUR shit that aint right! > > > > > > -- > > > Michael Ross > > > > > > > > > > > >