F1 2001 Dramatic FPS Improvement with Det 7.58 and Fraps 1.5

Picked this up on High Gears forums NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial framerate boost. I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! Regards Mike

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:44:48 +0100, Mike Blackmore <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Picked this up on High Gears forums > >NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and >the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial >framerate boost. >I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! > >I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race >on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was >on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. > >I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! > >Regards Mike

We knew about the Fraps trick, but did the 7.58 drivers give the extra fps boost? Andre

Hi Andre yes its an improvement over and above the usual fraps increase. The main boost for me is being able to have image quality at Full before it used to chug and now its smooth 40 fps + at everywhere apart from Indy for some reason there its still in the 30's. Regards Mike On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:50:48 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:44:48 +0100, Mike Blackmore ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Picked this up on High Gears forums >> >>NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and >>the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial >>framerate boost. >>I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! >> >>I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race >>on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was >>on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. >> >>I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! >> >>Regards Mike > >We knew about the Fraps trick, but did the 7.58 drivers give the extra >fps boost? > >Andre

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:06:24 +0100, Mike Blackmore <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi Andre yes its an improvement over and above the usual fraps >increase. The main boost for me is being able to have image quality >at Full before it used to chug and now its smooth 40 fps + at >everywhere apart from Indy for some reason there its still in the >30's. > >Regards Mike

Well thanks for the tip then! I missed LHZ's original post since it was buried deep down inside a thread :) I'm using 12.90 right now, let's see what the 7.58 will bring me :) Andre

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: >We knew about the Fraps trick, but did the 7.58 drivers give the extra >fps boost? Why does running *another* program concurrently increase the frame rate? It sounds like it should be the other way around... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On 17 Oct 2001 16:53:35 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >>We knew about the Fraps trick, but did the 7.58 drivers give the extra >>fps boost? > >Why does running *another* program concurrently increase the frame rate? It >sounds like it should be the other way around... > >Eldred

Yep, it's very weird and so far I haven't seen a plausible explanation.. but the increase of fps while running fraps is quite dramatically.. yesterday I forgot to run fraps first, started f1 2001 wondered why the hell f1 2001 suddenly run so jerky.. :) Andre

The 7.58 result in crashing F1 2001 for me, so I stay with 12.90 I think DOK On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 15:06:24 +0100, Mike Blackmore <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hi Andre yes its an improvement over and above the usual fraps >increase. The main boost for me is being able to have image quality >at Full before it used to chug and now its smooth 40 fps + at >everywhere apart from Indy for some reason there its still in the >30's. > >Regards Mike > > > >On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:50:48 GMT, [email hidden] >(Andre Warringa) wrote: > >>On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:44:48 +0100, Mike Blackmore >><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>Picked this up on High Gears forums >>> >>>NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and >>>the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial >>>framerate boost. >>>I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! >>> >>>I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race >>>on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was >>>on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. >>> >>>I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! >>> >>>Regards Mike >> >>We knew about the Fraps trick, but did the 7.58 drivers give the extra >>fps boost? >> >>Andre

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:53:54 +0200, Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote: >On 17 Oct 2001 16:53:35 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >Yep, it's very weird and so far I haven't seen a plausible >explanation.. but the increase of fps while running fraps is quite >dramatically.. yesterday I forgot to run fraps first, started f1 2001 >wondered why the hell f1 2001 suddenly run so jerky.. :) Are you actually seeing the Fraps counter? What OS are you running? I am in W2k with Gforce 2 and neither windowed or FS is showing the FRAPS counter. A friend of mine said the same thing although he is on XP. >Andre

2 follow up questions please What is Fraps (and where dio I get it) and When i tried to up date my Ndivia drivers I got just one choice to download from Ndivia site which appeared to be a universal driver (i think it was 21.xx) how do I select the specific drivers you are recommending pleae. On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:44:48 +0100, Mike Blackmore <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Picked this up on High Gears forums > >NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and >the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial >framerate boost. >I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! > >I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race >on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was >on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. > >I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! > >Regards Mike >

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:49:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Eric Fesler) wrote:

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>On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:53:54 +0200, Andre Warringa ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>On 17 Oct 2001 16:53:35 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >> >>Yep, it's very weird and so far I haven't seen a plausible >>explanation.. but the increase of fps while running fraps is quite >>dramatically.. yesterday I forgot to run fraps first, started f1 2001 >>wondered why the hell f1 2001 suddenly run so jerky.. :) > >Are you actually seeing the Fraps counter? What OS are you running? >I am in W2k with Gforce 2 and neither windowed or FS is showing the >FRAPS counter. A friend of mine said the same thing although he is on >XP.

Yes I see the counter.. I run W98. I installed the 7.58 but didn't notice a single fps improvement compared to the 12.90 drivers :-/ Andre > > >>Andre

I've been using 7.58 all along. They work better than anything else on GPL w. a variety of TNTs and GF2 Ultras. "Mike Blackmore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Picked this up on High Gears forums > > NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and > the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial > framerate boost. > I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! > > I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race > on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was > on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. > > I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! > > Regards Mike >

FRAPS is a utility that will display frames per second on screen while in the game. It's at www.fraps.com. -- Joe Marques "Glenn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > 2 follow up questions please > > What is Fraps (and where dio I get it) > > and > > When i tried to up date my Ndivia drivers I got just one choice to > download from Ndivia site which appeared to be a universal driver (i > think it was 21.xx) how do I select the specific drivers you are > recommending pleae. > > > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:44:48 +0100, Mike Blackmore > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Picked this up on High Gears forums > > > >NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and > >the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial > >framerate boost. > >I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! > > > >I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race > >on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was > >on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. > > > >I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! > > > >Regards Mike > > >

Mike, what are your system specs? TIA -- Joe Marques "Mike Blackmore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Picked this up on High Gears forums > > NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and > the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial > framerate boost. > I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! > > I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race > on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was > on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. > > I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! > > Regards Mike >

Glenn, Try this link http://www.fraps.com/ Todd "Glenn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> 2 follow up questions please > > What is Fraps (and where dio I get it) > > and > > When i tried to up date my Ndivia drivers I got just one choice to > download from Ndivia site which appeared to be a universal driver (i > think it was 21.xx) how do I select the specific drivers you are > recommending pleae. > > > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:44:48 +0100, Mike Blackmore > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Picked this up on High Gears forums > > > >NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and > >the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial > >framerate boost. > >I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! > > > >I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race > >on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was > >on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. > > > >I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! > > > >Regards Mike > > >

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001 23:17:46 GMT, [email hidden] (Glenn) wrote:

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>2 follow up questions please > >What is Fraps (and where dio I get it) > >and > >When i tried to up date my Ndivia drivers I got just one choice to >download from Ndivia site which appeared to be a universal driver (i >think it was 21.xx) how do I select the specific drivers you are >recommending pleae.

fraps http://www.fraps.com fraps is a small utility that measures your framerate and somehow manages to make F1 2001 -much- faster while you run fraps. Drivers http://www.reactorcritical.com/ Andre

EldredP <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > > >We knew about the Fraps trick, but did the 7.58 drivers give the extra > >fps boost? > > Why does running *another* program concurrently increase the frame rate?

It > sounds like it should be the other way around... > > Eldred Strangely, it was the only way to get a smooth framerate in GPL on my notebook. 4-5 fps without, 30+ fps with Fraps. I don't know why... Maybe Fraps nudges its elbow into the game engine every 1/30th of a second and says "Yo, aren't you supposed to be doing something?" :-) Stephen

None of this has really worked for me, the best I can do is with the 21.81 drivers and windowed. At least I can play it in 1024 x 768, all graphics are one click down from the max. I'm using GF2mx and Celeron 850 if anyone's interested. Naim "Mike Blackmore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Picked this up on High Gears forums > > NZX_Lorne over there posted that by using nVidia 7.58 ref Drivers and > the latest version of Fraps on his Geforce2 GTS he got a substantial > framerate boost. > I gave it a try and WOW !!!!!!!! > > I can now run everything maxed at 1280 x 960 at 40 + FPS in the race > on my Geforce2 GTS. Before I could get 40 + but the image quality was > on high not full and visually it makes quite a difference. > > I recommend everyone try it I was sceptical but it worked ! > > Regards Mike >

Athlon 1.4 256mb Geforce2 GTS Fortissiomo 2 Sound Regards Mike On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 03:07:18 GMT, "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote: >Mike, what are your system specs? > >TIA

Thanks, that's the upgrade I'm looking into right now since I can't race this game, only hot lap. I'm currently running a PIII 600 @ 672, 256 mb ram and a V5 5500. 1024x768, 16-bit with everything maxed I get 20-35 fps hot lapping and a whopping 4 fps at the start of a race, ouch. Once the field thins a bit I jump to 9 fps. ;-) Time to order a new mobo, chip, and ram. I'll see if the V5 5500 does ok with the extra power, if not I'm going with a Geforce 3. -- Joe Marques "Mike Blackmore" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Athlon 1.4 > 256mb > Geforce2 GTS > Fortissiomo 2 Sound > > Regards Mike > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 03:07:18 GMT, "Joe Marques" <Joe > [email hidden]> wrote: > > >Mike, what are your system specs? > > > >TIA >

Well, i am finally not locking up under windows XP AND fast fps. Trick: windows mode on, fraps on, AND windows desktop to same setting as in F1 2001 AND desktop refresh rate set to 60 hz (which is terrible for all other applications). DOK On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:14:46 GMT, "Joe Marques" <Joe [email hidden]> wrote:

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>Thanks, that's the upgrade I'm looking into right now since I can't race >this game, only hot lap. I'm currently running a PIII 600 @ 672, 256 mb ram >and a V5 5500. 1024x768, 16-bit with everything maxed I get 20-35 fps hot >lapping and a whopping 4 fps at the start of a race, ouch. Once the field >thins a bit I jump to 9 fps. ;-) Time to order a new mobo, chip, and ram. >I'll see if the V5 5500 does ok with the extra power, if not I'm going with >a Geforce 3.