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8 posts by 5 people · 14 Oct 2001 22:55 UTC - 19 Oct 2001 05:14 UTC

bb 14 Oct 2001 22:55 UTC#158215
ok not everybody cares... granted- but for those who do, can anyone tell me the logic (other than MONEY and AIR time) why CART decides near the end of some races that run long to change then to 2 hour TIMED events rather than run the full distance? here's my suggestion... make 'em ALL 2 hour events! then those that run up to that point finish on TIME, and if they happen to be clean (dont watch todays race) the fan gets a little more for his money! and you dont change the program in mid stream... c'mon officials its not rocket science- bo bruce
> here's my suggestion... make 'em ALL 2 hour events! then those that > run up to that point finish on TIME, and if they happen to be clean > (dont watch todays race) the fan gets a little more for his money! Thats all gonna be moot pretty soon anyways. next years CBS/SV package has a mimimum 2.5 hour time slot,.. 500 mile races will have a minimum 3.5 hr time slot... the race lenght formula they are currently using will be just fine next year as well. BTW, Glad to see servia is okay after that shunt... it was nasty....
Dave Henrie 15 Oct 2001 04:30 UTC↳ reply to bb#158179
THey just don't decide they race will be a timed event. EVERY CART race has to be finished in two hours. They only declare a timed event when the laps left vs time left looks bad. They try and announce it early enough so that teams working on pit & fuel strategies won't be caught out. So technically they ARE all timed events, but the distances they race are long enough to fill the broadcast window even when there isn't a-lot of yellows. Cart strategy is different from F1 in that they can adjust the fuel mapping while driving and change strategies on the fly. F1 is limited to fuel changes during upcomming pitstops. dave henrie I hearby nominate Orial Servia as an un-official Astronaut. C'mon Ford don't bail out now....hmmm the CART Barber/Dodge series?? dh "bb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> ok not everybody cares... granted- > but for those who do, can anyone tell me the logic (other than MONEY > and AIR time) why CART decides near the end of some races that run > long to change then to 2 hour TIMED events rather than run the full > distance? > > here's my suggestion... make 'em ALL 2 hour events! then those that > run up to that point finish on TIME, and if they happen to be clean > (dont watch todays race) the fan gets a little more for his money! > > and you dont change the program in mid stream... c'mon officials its > not rocket science- > > > bo bruce
Some engine makers may be dropping out, but I suspect we will see others jumping in to fill the void. AFAIK the new formula is basically the same as the IRL formula, so I wouldn't be surprised if some current and former IRL engine makers ended up supplying CART in 2003. "Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> > >Thats all gonna be moot pretty soon anyways. > > Well it may be moot full stop after next year, when there are no > engines available for CART in 2003... > > Rafe Mc
> I hearby nominate Orial Servia as an un-official Astronaut. > C'mon Ford don't bail out now....hmmm the CART Barber/Dodge series?? FORD would be smart to stick around. Cosworth is rumoured to be willing to supply NA champcar motors if they can get someone to badge them,... (about 7 million a year...) Toyota may stick around, if CART goes with a completely (bleahhh, what shitty sounding motors, they sound like an old pickup with a busted manifold ) IRL type formula,... The problem is that damned Niki Lauda. He wants Cosworth to blow off CARt and concentrate on his Jaguar progeam for F1,.. Selfish little prick,... Rumour also is that Dainler/Chrylser wants back in,.. Possibly a Dodge motor in CART... That would be allright.... CART will find some new manufacturers, im pretty sure of that. The problem is timing. 2 years to get new manufacturers online AND with a race motor is pretty damned fast....
On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 04:48:23 GMT, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Some engine makers may be dropping out, but I suspect we will see others >jumping in to fill the void. AFAIK the new formula is basically the >same as the IRL formula, so I wouldn't be surprised if some current and >former IRL engine makers ended up supplying CART in 2003. It's similar, but not identical. No rev limit is one thing, but they still haven't released any details. Problem is that GM and Nissan aren't really interested in CART from what they've said. And Toyota are not really keen to get back in either. And yeah, that timed race thing certainly sucks for those drivers who had fuelled up for the finish. But it gives the results a bizarre twist. Rafe Mc
On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 06:53:20 GMT, "�� Jason_Hoehn ԥ" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (20 lines)> >> I hearby nominate Orial Servia as an un-official Astronaut. >> C'mon Ford don't bail out now....hmmm the CART Barber/Dodge series?? > >FORD would be smart to stick around. Cosworth is rumoured to be willing to >supply NA champcar motors if they can get someone to badge them,... (about 7 >million a year...) Toyota may stick around, if CART goes with a completely >(bleahhh, what shitty sounding motors, they sound like an old pickup with a >busted manifold ) IRL type formula,... The problem is that damned Niki >Lauda. He wants Cosworth to blow off CARt and concentrate on his Jaguar >progeam for F1,.. Selfish little prick,... > >Rumour also is that Dainler/Chrylser wants back in,.. Possibly a Dodge motor >in CART... That would be allright.... > >CART will find some new manufacturers, im pretty sure of that. The problem >is timing. 2 years to get new manufacturers online AND with a race motor is >pretty damned fast.... > >
Ford have rasied the possibility of beig a solo supplier with 2.65l turbo "spec" motors, at $2m a pop, if there is no one else in 2003. Depends if CART is interested in saving the series ir not really... Rafe Mc

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