F1 2001, 1 problem solved, a new one raises it's ugly head !

Could some kind peron help me find a solution to my problem ? :) When I first installed F1 2001 on my Athlon 750 with GeForce 2 Pro everything ran quite well except for the pedals which were a bit insensitive and a lack of CPU grunt. So I bought a new PC, Athlon 1.2 GHz with GeForce 3. Out on track and great, the pedals seem to work properly at last :) I continued for a lap or 2 when it just crashed back to desktop. This happens with all the drivers I tried (21.81, 12.90, 12.41 and 11.01) I then tried putting the GeForce 2 back in with the 12.90 drivers (which worked on my Athlon 750) still the same problem. With some drivers I also got graphics corruption when starting a quick race, any other race type was ok though. I tried running in windowed mode and also running FRAPS but no luck. Does anyone have any ideas ? BTW, both systems are listed below AMD Athlon 750 @ 768 Gigabyte GA71XE MB 256MB RAM GeForce 2 Pro SB Live 1024 Realtek NIC card AVM (BT speedway) ISDN card AMD Athlon 1.2 AbitKT7A MB (VIA 4in1 drivers version 432 256MB RAM GeForce 3 SB Live 1024 Realtek NIC card AVM (BT Speedway) ISDN card, now changed to a multitech ISDN card. Nothing besides the Athlon 50 is overclocked and the CPU and system temp seems pretty good 26, 45 Only difference I can think of is the CPU and MB, so can that be the problem and is there a fix?

since you are getting it running and THEN it crashes...it sounds like something other than drivers. Check for the temperature your cpu is running at. A 1.2 should be around 52c or less. Check that your new system isn't sharing abunch of irq's for the soundcard, vid card and the like. good luck tracking this down. ps...desktop set to the same display characteristics as the game?? i.e. 16bit color and the same screen res.. "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9qcn3k$10$[email hidden]... > Could some kind peron help me find a solution to my problem ? :) > > When I first installed F1 2001 on my Athlon 750 with GeForce 2 Pro > everything ran quite well except for the pedals which were a bitinsensitive > and a lack of CPU grunt. > So I bought a new PC, Athlon 1.2 GHz with GeForce 3. Out on track andgreat, > the pedals seem to work properly at last :) I continued for a lap or 2when > it just crashed back to desktop. This happens with all the drivers I tried > (21.81, 12.90, 12.41 and 11.01) > I then tried putting the GeForce 2 back in with the 12.90 drivers (which > worked on my Athlon 750) still the same problem. With some drivers I also > got graphics corruption when starting a quick race, any other race typewas

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> ok though. > > I tried running in windowed mode and also running FRAPS but no luck. > > Does anyone have any ideas ? > > BTW, both systems are listed below > > AMD Athlon 750 @ 768 > Gigabyte GA71XE MB > 256MB RAM > GeForce 2 Pro > SB Live 1024 > Realtek NIC card > AVM (BT speedway) ISDN card > > AMD Athlon 1.2 > AbitKT7A MB (VIA 4in1 drivers version 432 > 256MB RAM > GeForce 3 > SB Live 1024 > Realtek NIC card > AVM (BT Speedway) ISDN card, now changed to a multitech ISDN card. > > Nothing besides the Athlon 50 is overclocked and the CPU and system temp > seems pretty good 26, 45 > > Only difference I can think of is the CPU and MB, so can that be the

problem > and is there a fix? > > > >

I agree, I believe it is the KT7A. If you can try disconnecting the CD drive and testing it. There seem to be some issues with the bus mastering drivers on this board & CD drives. There is a ton of stuff on this board here: http://www.viahardware.com/faq/kt7/kt7faq.htm Hope it helps Tony

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> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9qcn3k$10$[email hidden]... > > Could some kind peron help me find a solution to my problem ? :) > > > > When I first installed F1 2001 on my Athlon 750 with GeForce 2 Pro > > everything ran quite well except for the pedals which were a bit > insensitive > > and a lack of CPU grunt. > > So I bought a new PC, Athlon 1.2 GHz with GeForce 3. Out on track and > great, > > the pedals seem to work properly at last :) I continued for a lap or 2 > when > > it just crashed back to desktop. This happens with all the drivers I

tried > > (21.81, 12.90, 12.41 and 11.01) > > I then tried putting the GeForce 2 back in with the 12.90 drivers (which > > worked on my Athlon 750) still the same problem. With some drivers Ialso

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> > got graphics corruption when starting a quick race, any other race type > was > > ok though. > > > > I tried running in windowed mode and also running FRAPS but no luck. > > > > Does anyone have any ideas ? > > > > BTW, both systems are listed below > > > > AMD Athlon 750 @ 768 > > Gigabyte GA71XE MB > > 256MB RAM > > GeForce 2 Pro > > SB Live 1024 > > Realtek NIC card > > AVM (BT speedway) ISDN card > > > > AMD Athlon 1.2 > > AbitKT7A MB (VIA 4in1 drivers version 432 > > 256MB RAM > > GeForce 3 > > SB Live 1024 > > Realtek NIC card > > AVM (BT Speedway) ISDN card, now changed to a multitech ISDN card. > > > > Nothing besides the Athlon 50 is overclocked and the CPU and system temp > > seems pretty good 26, 45 > > > > Only difference I can think of is the CPU and MB, so can that be the > problem > > and is there a fix? > > > > > > > > > >

Did you just put the old HDD with windows on the new PC? To avoid having to reinstall windows but allow it to locate all the new hardware, etc., delete the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Enum (which removes all the entires below it). On reboot, Windows will recognise all the new hardware and new drivers for them. The other culprit is most likely your BIOS settings for the Abit board. Check your AGP settings, try removing AGP 4x, altering the AGP aperature, etc. Rafe Mc On Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:45:05 +0100, "Tony Rickard" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I agree, I believe it is the KT7A. > >If you can try disconnecting the CD drive and testing it. There seem to be >some issues with the bus mastering drivers on this board & CD drives. > >There is a ton of stuff on this board here: > >http://www.viahardware.com/faq/kt7/kt7faq.htm > >Hope it helps > >Tony > >> "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:9qcn3k$10$[email hidden]... >> > Could some kind peron help me find a solution to my problem ? :) >> > >> > When I first installed F1 2001 on my Athlon 750 with GeForce 2 Pro >> > everything ran quite well except for the pedals which were a bit >> insensitive >> > and a lack of CPU grunt. >> > So I bought a new PC, Athlon 1.2 GHz with GeForce 3. Out on track and >> great, >> > the pedals seem to work properly at last :) I continued for a lap or 2 >> when >> > it just crashed back to desktop. This happens with all the drivers I >tried >> > (21.81, 12.90, 12.41 and 11.01) >> > I then tried putting the GeForce 2 back in with the 12.90 drivers (which >> > worked on my Athlon 750) still the same problem. With some drivers I >also >> > got graphics corruption when starting a quick race, any other race type >> was >> > ok though. >> > >> > I tried running in windowed mode and also running FRAPS but no luck. >> > >> > Does anyone have any ideas ? >> > >> > BTW, both systems are listed below >> > >> > AMD Athlon 750 @ 768 >> > Gigabyte GA71XE MB >> > 256MB RAM >> > GeForce 2 Pro >> > SB Live 1024 >> > Realtek NIC card >> > AVM (BT speedway) ISDN card >> > >> > AMD Athlon 1.2 >> > AbitKT7A MB (VIA 4in1 drivers version 432 >> > 256MB RAM >> > GeForce 3 >> > SB Live 1024 >> > Realtek NIC card >> > AVM (BT Speedway) ISDN card, now changed to a multitech ISDN card. >> > >> > Nothing besides the Athlon 50 is overclocked and the CPU and system temp >> > seems pretty good 26, 45 >> > >> > Only difference I can think of is the CPU and MB, so can that be the >> problem >> > and is there a fix? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >

Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kJly7.8213$[email hidden]... > since you are getting it running and THEN it crashes...it sounds like > something other than drivers. I think you're right ;) > Check for the temperature your cpu is running at. A 1.2 should bearound > 52c or less. It's running at about 45c, as I said in my admittedly long post ;) Check that your new system isn't sharing abunch of irq's for > the soundcard, vid card and the like. I tried installing win ME after the original install of 98SE gave me crashes, a few IRQs were shared but nothing too serious. I think something went totally *tits up* with the ME install as I was having some serious lockups, DUN taking ages to come up and not even N4 would run. I gave up and did a clean install of 98SE. Everything seems ok now, USB and ISDN card share an IRQ but thats all. I still get crashes in F1 2001 though, but they are far less and there is no graphics corruption anymore :) > good luck tracking this down. I think I'll need it <G> > ps...desktop set to the same display characteristics as the game?? > i.e. 16bit color and the same screen res.. Yes it is. Thanks Ian P

Rafe McAuliffe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Did you just put the old HDD with windows on the new PC? No, it was a complete system with an OS installed, I bought it off a friend and everything works (ed) fine before but he didn't have F1 2001 To avoid > having to reinstall windows but allow it to locate all the new > hardware, etc., delete the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Enum (which > removes all the entires below it). On reboot, Windows will recognise > all the new hardware and new drivers for them. Thanks, a nice tip to know, even if I don't need it on this occasion . > > The other culprit is most likely your BIOS settings for the Abit > board. Check your AGP settings, try removing AGP 4x, altering the AGP > aperature, etc. Already tried that, no go. But as I pointed out in my reply to Dave Henrie, it's now running a lot better under a clean install of 98SE ;) > > Rafe Mc > Thanks Ian P

When I find a noCD patch I'll try that. Thanks Ian P Tony Rickard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I agree, I believe it is the KT7A. > > If you can try disconnecting the CD drive and testing it. There seem to be > some issues with the bus mastering drivers on this board & CD drives. > > There is a ton of stuff on this board here: > > http://www.viahardware.com/faq/kt7/kt7faq.htm > > Hope it helps > > Tony