LWFF switching off FF when overheating, please read if this happens to you

Hi all, Sorry for not being able to offer a solution for that yet. The problem is already boilt down to being triggered by overheating of the motor/board. Taking off the cover is not an option, since the unit looses its stability. To install a fan would cure the prob, but is for sure beyond the capability of the common user. So far the only way to avoid the problem is to crank down the forces. So far the compilation of the r.a.s. know-how. I want to find out, which wheels are affected, since I assume that only a certain batch got this problem. So if you encounter the a.m. problem, please post here: Whel from Taiwan/China gray or red box? serial no batch no. (these numbers under the wheel unit. Cannot check the proper decription right now, since I'm not at home) Cya JensSchumi --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -13 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

Not exactly an answer, but I am pretty convinced that the spiking I get in GPL and N4 with my LWFFGP is heat related. If I play GPL when I first turn on my computer I can play relatively spike free for 20 minutes or so. After that, or if I play GPL after playing some other game first, I get spikes. I know you weren't asking about the GP, but I thought I would throw that in FWIW. "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi all, > Sorry for not being able to offer a solution for that yet. > The problem is already boilt down to being triggered by overheating ofthe > motor/board. Taking off the cover is not an option, since the unitlooses its > stability. To install a fan would cure the prob, but is for surebeyond the > capability of the common user. So far the only way to avoid theproblem is to > crank down the forces. > > So far the compilation of the r.a.s. know-how. > > I want to find out, which wheels are affected, since I assume thatonly a

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> certain batch got this problem. > So if you encounter the a.m. problem, please post here: > Whel from Taiwan/China > gray or red box? > serial no > batch no. > (these numbers under the wheel unit. Cannot check the proper

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> now, since I'm not at home) > > Cya > > JensSchumi > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ > > GPLRank: -13 > Monsters of GPL: sub 200

and what setting are you using in your LWFF software? dave henrie "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%iwo7.72983$[email hidden]... > Not exactly an answer, but I am pretty convinced that the spiking I get

Default Windows settings are 100% for spring and damper forces, Profiler settings are 70% for overall effects strength, and GPL settings are force_feedback_damping = 40, force_feedback_latency = 0.100, and max_steering_torque = 225. I have played around with this a lot, and found that I had to have 100 msec latency or the forces just did not keep up with the vehicle when the rear end got loose, and that with that much latency correction the only way to keep the wheel from constantly chattering was to reduce the overall force level. Admittedly these settings are probably aggravating the spiking some, but I haven't found any combination of settings that totally gets rid of the spikes (other than "off"), so I went for settings that gave good driveability instead. There have been several threads on this problem already, with most people telling me it's a bad pot, but that doesn't explain why I can play NFSPU all day at equivalent force levels with no spiking. My gut feel after researching this as much as I could is that since Papy is trying to directly control motor forces rather than using the spring and damper model, they are overworking the motor, causing excessive heat build-up. That at least would go a long way towards explaining the behavior that Jens is talking about. It doesn't really explain what are clearly spikes in the steering channel, unless thermal expansion is causing the wiper or the connections on the pot to intermittently lose contact. I really need to open it up and have a look at it, I just never seem to have the time. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Atwo7.6885$[email hidden]... > and what setting are you using in your LWFF software? > dave henrie > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%iwo7.72983$[email hidden]... > > Not exactly an answer, but I am pretty convinced that the spiking Iget > >