Cable Upside Bandwidth Increasing?

I grabbed this bit off a ZDNet News release today........seems we have some "hope" for the future of individual race hosting on home-based cable systems. That's the good news! The bad news is its probably 2 years away. Tom Pabst *********** ZDNet news: "A new cable Internet standard slated to be finalized later this year could boost cable modem speeds, clearing the way for a raft of new services. Denver-based CableLabs, the cable industry's research and development arm, announced recently that it will certify a new version of DOCSIS (Data Over Cable Service Interface Specification), the technology protocol cable operators use to deliver high-speed Net access using cable modems. The latest version, which will be called DOCSIS 2.0, significantly increases cable bandwidth, or network capacity, particularly for so-called upstream transmissions, according to CableLabs. The standard, which will be finished by year's end, is designed to triple the speed at which cable modem users may send data and Internet traffic. But equipment--certified as being based on the standard--is unlikely to be ready for more than a year, some analysts say."

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:_46m7.53549$[email hidden]: > I grabbed this bit off a ZDNet News release today........seems we have > some "hope" for the future of individual race hosting on home-based > cable systems. That's the good news! The bad news is its probably 2 > years away. > > Tom Pabst But latency is more than issue than throughput :) Z. -- Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

Tiered cable packages are being tested here in NC. (Time Warner "Road Runner" cable). There is going to be a 4X2 package available apparently. (4Mb down/2Mb up). Requires a router and is intended for businesses at approx $499 a month. Zonky <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in > news:_46m7.53549$[email hidden]: > > > I grabbed this bit off a ZDNet News release today........seems we have > > some "hope" for the future of individual race hosting on home-based > > cable systems. That's the good news! The bad news is its probably 2 > > years away. > > > > Tom Pabst > > But latency is more than issue than throughput :) > > Z. > > > > -- > Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

We've got a couple of new housing developments that are wiring fiber connections right up to the homes. Methinks that should provide all the bandwidth a serious sim-racer needs. Now all I need is a couple of hundred thousand Bucks to afford such a house...:) dave henrie "SimRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:S1am7.249067$[email hidden]...

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> Tiered cable packages are being tested here in NC. (Time Warner "Road > Runner" cable). There is going to be a 4X2 package available apparently. > (4Mb down/2Mb up). Requires a router and is intended for businesses at > approx $499 a month. > > > > > Zonky <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:_46m7.53549$[email hidden]: > > > > > I grabbed this bit off a ZDNet News release today........seems we have > > > some "hope" for the future of individual race hosting on home-based > > > cable systems. That's the good news! The bad news is its probably 2 > > > years away. > > > > > > Tom Pabst > > > > But latency is more than issue than throughput :) > > > > Z. > > > > > > > > -- > > Please remove my_pants when replying by email. > >

Businesses can already get that here in Cincy. SimRacer wrote:

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> Tiered cable packages are being tested here in NC. (Time Warner "Road > Runner" cable). There is going to be a 4X2 package available apparently. > (4Mb down/2Mb up). Requires a router and is intended for businesses at > approx $499 a month. > > Zonky <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > news:_46m7.53549$[email hidden]: > > > > > I grabbed this bit off a ZDNet News release today........seems we have > > > some "hope" for the future of individual race hosting on home-based > > > cable systems. That's the good news! The bad news is its probably 2 > > > years away. > > > > > > Tom Pabst > > > > But latency is more than issue than throughput :) > > > > Z. > > > > > > > > -- > > Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:_46m7.53549$[email hidden]... > > The latest version, which will be called DOCSIS 2.0, significantlyincreases > cable bandwidth, I read something about this elsewhere yesterday. DOCSIS 2.0 makes use (in part) of S-CDMA to increase speed. Shaw Cable in Canada is a full S-CDMA (Terayon equipment) system without DOCSIS 1, 2 or bloody 3... The modems have a theoretical max of 45Mbps... if only I could convince them to let me have that speed :-) Dale.

>>I grabbed this bit off a ZDNet News release today........seems we have some "hope" for the future of individual race hosting on home-based cable systems.<< Tom, just a question. I have a cable modem (AT & T Cyber Surfer) and have hosted races with up to 10-12 friends (local) just using my ip address (not running through papy) without a hitch. Is this what your talking about? Am I just lucky or is there something I'm missing. Thanks Michael Loos Gasoline Alley...The Fastest Show In Radio! Nationwide Saturdays at 10:00 pm Eastern - 7:00 pm Pacific Find your local affiliate at www.GasolineAlleyOnline.net

No Michael....you are not "lucky".....that sounds about right for a cable connection "race host." I don't recall the exact numbers (maybe someone can refresh or confirm this information???) but it takes about 12 KB upside bandwidth per client in N4 (client is a person joining a race). With a cable upside limit of 128 KB (theoretical....it actually is about 120KB or so)....that means an N4 host server on such a system could handle about 10-12 clients (race participants). Much more than that and the connection stability for all clients starts to deteriorate rapidly. Is that about right....all you MP guru's out there? Regards, Tom

Depends on the cable system. The ComCast nodes in SE Michigan that were formerly MediaOne nodes have kept MediaOne's 300 kb upstream rate. I have confirmed this numerous times with test uploads. Not sure what other areas have. "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nO8n7.63862$[email hidden]... > No Michael....you are not "lucky".....that sounds about right for acable > connection "race host." > > I don't recall the exact numbers (maybe someone can refresh or confirmthis > information???) but it takes about 12 KB upside bandwidth per clientin N4 > (client is a person joining a race). With a cable upside limit of 128KB > (theoretical....it actually is about 120KB or so)....that means an N4host > server on such a system could handle about 10-12 clients (race > participants). Much more than that and the connection stability forall

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> clients starts to deteriorate rapidly. > > Is that about right....all you MP guru's out there? > > Regards, > > Tom > > >

Haqsau wrote: > > Depends on the cable system. The ComCast nodes in SE Michigan that were > formerly MediaOne nodes have kept MediaOne's 300 kb upstream rate. I > have confirmed this numerous times with test uploads. Not sure what > other areas have. You live in SE Mich HackSaw? Where abouts? I'm in Taylor. -- Fester

Small world! I live in Ann Arbor. "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Haqsau wrote: > > > > Depends on the cable system. The ComCast nodes in SE Michigan thatwere > > formerly MediaOne nodes have kept MediaOne's 300 kb upstream rate.I

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> > have confirmed this numerous times with test uploads. Not sure what > > other areas have. > > > You live in SE Mich HackSaw? Where abouts? I'm in Taylor. > > -- > > Fester

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>Subject: Re: Cable Upside Bandwidth Increasing? >From: "Haqsau" [email hidden] >Date: 09/10/2001 10:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time >Message-id: <J2fn7.64810$[email hidden]> > >Small world! I live in Ann Arbor. > > >"Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> Haqsau wrote: >> > >> > Depends on the cable system. The ComCast nodes in SE Michigan that >were >> > formerly MediaOne nodes have kept MediaOne's 300 kb upstream rate. >I >> > have confirmed this numerous times with test uploads. Not sure what >> > other areas have. >> >> >> You live in SE Mich HackSaw? Where abouts? I'm in Taylor. >> >> -- >> >> Fester

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In article <Drbn7.64197$[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> writes: >Depends on the cable system. The ComCast nodes in SE Michigan that were >formerly MediaOne nodes have kept MediaOne's 300 kb upstream rate. I >have confirmed this numerous times with test uploads. Not sure what >other areas have. How did you test that? I considered Comcast, but I'm going with Ameritech for now. I'm curious what kind of speeds I'll get... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

we are locked in by AT&T@homeBroadband..or whatever name they choose this week, to 128k up. I'm on an older part of the city net and get 1.5mbs to1.8mbs downstream...they SAY that sometime next year, they will break up my node into 3rds and I should start getting 2 to 3 mbps dave henrie the easist way to check it was with napster. Have a cable user dload a song from you and watch it peak at 11 or 12 kbs while you are dloading a mp3 at 100+ kbs. dh "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <Drbn7.64197$[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Depends on the cable system. The ComCast nodes in SE Michigan that were > >formerly MediaOne nodes have kept MediaOne's 300 kb upstream rate. I > >have confirmed this numerous times with test uploads. Not sure what > >other areas have. > > How did you test that? I considered Comcast, but I'm going with Ameritech

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> now. I'm curious what kind of speeds I'll get... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in <20010918183756.28076.00000182@nso- da.aol.com>:

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>In article <J2fn7.64810$[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>Small world! I live in Ann Arbor. >> > >Cool - I *work* in Ann Arbor...<g> > >Eldred

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Remind me why Steely Dan doesn't want to go back to Ann Arbor anymore??? :) dave henrie "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9121DA212dscurlock@news... > [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in<20010918183756.28076.00000182@nso-

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> da.aol.com>: > > >In article <J2fn7.64810$[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" > ><[email hidden]> writes: > > > >>Small world! I live in Ann Arbor. > >> > > > >Cool - I *work* in Ann Arbor...<g> > > > >Eldred

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> Remind me why Steely Dan doesn't want to go back to Ann Arbor anymore??? >:) >dave henrie >"Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:9121DA212dscurlock@news... >> [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in ><20010918183756.28076.00000182@nso- >> da.aol.com>: >> >> >In article <J2fn7.64810$[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" >> ><[email hidden]> writes: >> > >> >>Small world! I live in Ann Arbor. >> >> >> > >> >Cool - I *work* in Ann Arbor...<g> >> > >> >Eldred

I have no idea. I've never seen them... It would be a good show, though. I', sure I'm just missing the joke here.<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <9121DA212dscurlock@news>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) writes:

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>[email hidden] (EldredP) wrote in ><20010918183756.28076.00000182@nso- >da.aol.com>: > >>In article <J2fn7.64810$[email hidden]>, "Haqsau" >><[email hidden]> writes: >> >>>Small world! I live in Ann Arbor. >>> >> >>Cool - I *work* in Ann Arbor...<g> >> >>Eldred > > >And I just shipped a motorcycle exhaust system to the guy I sold it to, who >lives in....wait for it..... Ann Arbor! Cosmic man. >

Uh oh... Our server admin had a motorcycle wreck a couple of months ago. She said they got the replacement parts from someone on Ebay. She's at a meeting now, so I can't ask who they bought the parts from. That would be just SCARY... <cue Twilight Zone music...> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +360.54... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.