OT: CART to race in F1 circuit in 2002!

Speaking of CART.. I just read on Autosport.com that the Champcars will visit a *former* F1 venue next season :-) They've made a 4 year deal that sees them holding races at Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez near Mexico City. The track, whilch is also featured in GPL (old version that is) hosted an F1 race as late as 1992. (Won by Nigel Mansell in Williams if my memory serves me right...) Should be really cool to see the Champcars on this nice track :-) -- ed_

"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Speaking of CART.. I just read on Autosport.com that the Champcars will > visit a *former* F1 venue next season :-) > They've made a 4 year deal that sees them holding races at Autodromo > Hermanos Rodriguez near Mexico City. The track, whilch is also featured in > GPL (old version that is) hosted an F1 race as late as 1992. (Won by Nigel > Mansell in Williams if my memory serves me right...) > > Should be really cool to see the Champcars on this nice track :-)

Indeed it will. And the basic track layout is very equal to the GPL track, apart from the following: - A chicane before T1 - T1 is now a right-left-right configuration - The approach to the hairpin is shorter - Another chicane before the entrance to the last corner The funny thing about this Mexico City race is that the organizers already had 150.000 enquieries about tickets when the race was still a rumour. The stand capacity will be 300.000 and they talk about 100.000 more in general admission. How they are going to cram 400.000 people around the track is a different question, but in the end of the day it will outnumber the Indy500 as the biggest one day sporting event. :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

Lest we all forget why F1 no longer visits Mexico City: riots that make Europe's soccer hooligans look like the Vienna Boys Choir! "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:af4m7.11388$[email hidden]... > Speaking of CART.. I just read on Autosport.com that the Champcars will > visit a *former* F1 venue next season :-) > They've made a 4 year deal that sees them holding races at Autodromo > Hermanos Rodriguez near Mexico City. The track, whilch is also featuredin > GPL (old version that is) hosted an F1 race as late as 1992. (Won byNigel

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> Mansell in Williams if my memory serves me right...) > > Should be really cool to see the Champcars on this nice track :-) > > > -- > ed_ > >

FOOTBALL!!!! ;-) "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nL4m7.440217$[email hidden]...

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> Lest we all forget why F1 no longer visits Mexico City: riots that make > Europe's soccer hooligans look like the Vienna Boys Choir! > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:af4m7.11388$[email hidden]... > > Speaking of CART.. I just read on Autosport.com that the Champcars will > > visit a *former* F1 venue next season :-) > > They've made a 4 year deal that sees them holding races at Autodromo > > Hermanos Rodriguez near Mexico City. The track, whilch is also

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> in > > GPL (old version that is) hosted an F1 race as late as 1992. (Won by > Nigel > > Mansell in Williams if my memory serves me right...) > > > > Should be really cool to see the Champcars on this nice track :-) > > > > > > -- > > ed_ > > > > > >

But look how CART is having to try to beat the Indy 500. Let's see now, shall we? Indianapolis: population ~1million, Indy 500 attendance: 400-450,000 Mexico City: population ~22million, Hopeful attendance: 400-450,000 And it gets better when they look to China for the hope there. CART is having to go to huge areas of dense population in order to equal attendance for a race in the MidWest United States in a rather small city. No race that CART can come up with will ever replace the stature of the Indy 500. They've tried before (US500) and they now appear to be trying again. The race can be quite good, but it will never replace Indy in any shape or form. -Pav On 7 Sep 2001, Olav K. Malmin wrote:

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> "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Speaking of CART.. I just read on Autosport.com that the Champcars will > > visit a *former* F1 venue next season :-) > > They've made a 4 year deal that sees them holding races at Autodromo > > Hermanos Rodriguez near Mexico City. The track, whilch is also featured in > > GPL (old version that is) hosted an F1 race as late as 1992. (Won by Nigel > > Mansell in Williams if my memory serves me right...) > > > > Should be really cool to see the Champcars on this nice track :-) > > Indeed it will. And the basic track layout is very equal to the GPL > track, apart from the following: > > - A chicane before T1 > - T1 is now a right-left-right configuration > - The approach to the hairpin is shorter > - Another chicane before the entrance to the last corner > > The funny thing about this Mexico City race is that the organizers > already had 150.000 enquieries about tickets when the race was still a > rumour. The stand capacity will be 300.000 and they talk about 100.000 > more in general admission. How they are going to cram 400.000 people > around the track is a different question, but in the end of the day it > will outnumber the Indy500 as the biggest one day sporting event. :) > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying >

Sorry--FUSSbol! --Steve "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kd5m7.36597$[email hidden]...

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> FOOTBALL!!!! ;-) > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nL4m7.440217$[email hidden]... > > Lest we all forget why F1 no longer visits Mexico City: riots that make > > Europe's soccer hooligans look like the Vienna Boys Choir! > > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:af4m7.11388$[email hidden]... > > > Speaking of CART.. I just read on Autosport.com that the Champcars

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> > > visit a *former* F1 venue next season :-) > > > They've made a 4 year deal that sees them holding races at Autodromo > > > Hermanos Rodriguez near Mexico City. The track, whilch is also > featured > > in > > > GPL (old version that is) hosted an F1 race as late as 1992. (Won by > > Nigel > > > Mansell in Williams if my memory serves me right...) > > > > > > Should be really cool to see the Champcars on this nice track :-) > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ed_ > > > > > > > > > > > >

Stephen Smith wrote: > > Sorry--FUSSbol! Sorry - Fussball! ;)

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> > --Steve > > "GBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:kd5m7.36597$[email hidden]... > > FOOTBALL!!!! ;-) > > > > "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:nL4m7.440217$[email hidden]... > > > Lest we all forget why F1 no longer visits Mexico City: riots that make > > > Europe's soccer hooligans look like the Vienna Boys Choir!

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On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:55:38 -0400, John Pavlicek <[email hidden]> wrote: >But look how CART is having to try to beat the Indy 500. Let's see now, >shall we? > >Indianapolis: population ~1million, Indy 500 attendance: 400-450,000 Plus 250million throughout the country that travel a LONG way to see one of the most historical and famous races today.

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>Mexico City: population ~22million, Hopeful attendance: 400-450,000 > >And it gets better when they look to China for the hope there. CART is >having to go to huge areas of dense population in order to equal >attendance for a race in the MidWest United States in a rather small city. > >No race that CART can come up with will ever replace the stature of the >Indy 500. They've tried before (US500) and they now appear to be trying >again. The race can be quite good, but it will never replace Indy in any >shape or form. >

I don't think they're even considering trying to replace the Indy 500. That's almost impossible, the race has close to 100 years of history behind it. I think they're simply trying to put on new races in new markets, expanding the series globally. And they're doing alright, if they quit all this ridiculous politics and controversy they seem to love. All in all, looks like it'll be a fantastic race. :) Rafe Mc

I'm glad you realize, too, that it's not the IRL that CART is having a problem upstaging, it's the Indy 500. I truly think there would be just as many people in the stands if the race consisted of Barber Dodge students and cars. 3/4 of the crowd is there for Jim Neighbors(sp?), the balloons, the party, or just to say they've been there. I know... I've only missed 5 since '81. Warlock! John Pavlicek wrote:

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> But look how CART is having to try to beat the Indy 500. Let's see now, > shall we? > > Indianapolis: population ~1million, Indy 500 attendance: 400-450,000 > Mexico City: population ~22million, Hopeful attendance: 400-450,000 > > And it gets better when they look to China for the hope there. CART is > having to go to huge areas of dense population in order to equal > attendance for a race in the MidWest United States in a rather small city. > > No race that CART can come up with will ever replace the stature of the > Indy 500. They've tried before (US500) and they now appear to be trying > again. The race can be quite good, but it will never replace Indy in any > shape or form. > > -Pav > > On 7 Sep 2001, Olav K. Malmin wrote: > > > "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > Speaking of CART.. I just read on Autosport.com that the Champcars will > > > visit a *former* F1 venue next season :-) > > > They've made a 4 year deal that sees them holding races at Autodromo > > > Hermanos Rodriguez near Mexico City. The track, whilch is also featured in > > > GPL (old version that is) hosted an F1 race as late as 1992. (Won by Nigel > > > Mansell in Williams if my memory serves me right...) > > > > > > Should be really cool to see the Champcars on this nice track :-) > > > > Indeed it will. And the basic track layout is very equal to the GPL > > track, apart from the following: > > > > - A chicane before T1 > > - T1 is now a right-left-right configuration > > - The approach to the hairpin is shorter > > - Another chicane before the entrance to the last corner > > > > The funny thing about this Mexico City race is that the organizers > > already had 150.000 enquieries about tickets when the race was still a > > rumour. The stand capacity will be 300.000 and they talk about 100.000 > > more in general admission. How they are going to cram 400.000 people > > around the track is a different question, but in the end of the day it > > will outnumber the Indy500 as the biggest one day sporting event. :) > > > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin > > remove .spam when replying > >