Re: New Logitech/Momo wheel, Wow!

Wonder if/how it compares to the Act-Labs Force RS? "AndrewS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fp4l7.9245$[email hidden]... > Everyone should check out the early info about the new Logitech wheel over > at High Gear. > > http://www.sportplanet.com/hg/ > >

Everyone should check out the early info about the new Logitech wheel over at High Gear. http://www.sportplanet.com/hg/

notice the same shite pedals - just tarted up a little bit. Doug "AndrewS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fp4l7.9245$[email hidden]... > Everyone should check out the early info about the new Logitech wheel over > at High Gear. > > http://www.sportplanet.com/hg/ > >

on the same page it also showed the ferrari wheel looks like the same shite with new labels !!! Douglas Ellison <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:oQ4l7.690$[email hidden]...

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> notice the same shite pedals - just tarted up a little bit. > > Doug > > "AndrewS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fp4l7.9245$[email hidden]... > > Everyone should check out the early info about the new Logitech wheel

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> > at High Gear. > > > > http://www.sportplanet.com/hg/ > > > > > >

at least my MSFF never been rebadged as mutton dressed as lamb I prefer mutton anyway Doug "Gill Bates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> on the same page it also showed the ferrari wheel > looks like the same shite with new labels !!! > > > > Douglas Ellison <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:oQ4l7.690$[email hidden]... > > notice the same shite pedals - just tarted up a little bit. > > > > Doug > > > > "AndrewS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:fp4l7.9245$[email hidden]... > > > Everyone should check out the early info about the new Logitech wheel > over > > > at High Gear. > > > > > > http://www.sportplanet.com/hg/ > > > > > > > > > > > >

at least my MSFF never been rebadged as mutton dressed as lamb I prefer mutton anyway Doug

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> on the same page it also showed the ferrari wheel > looks like the same shite with new labels !!! > > notice the same shite pedals - just tarted up a little bit. > > Doug > > > Everyone should check out the early info about the new Logitech wheel > over > > > at High Gear. > > > http://www.sportplanet.com/hg/

I'm sure you've noticed how it looks almost identical to the old LWFF wheel. Either they wanted to use all the old LWFF parts they still had or they didn't have the money to design something new. Either way the pedals still press down instead of forward, and they still look to have very little travel. I wouldn't buy one. "AndrewS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fp4l7.9245$[email hidden]... > Everyone should check out the early info about the new Logitech wheel over > at High Gear. > > http://www.sportplanet.com/hg/ > >

"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xq6l7.97155$[email hidden]... > > I wouldn't buy one. > ...unless you are goin to use it with different pedals that is.

Exactly - I'm already using CH Pedals, and my existing LWFF is approaching 2 years old. For the asking price, I'm definitely interested in picking the new wheel up. It would undoubtedly make for a good combination with the new Act-Labs pedals and shifter. Rick "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Yy6l7.97197$[email hidden]...

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> > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:xq6l7.97155$[email hidden]... > > > > I wouldn't buy one. > > > > ...unless you are goin to use it with different pedals that is. > >

I love my old LWFF wheel. I do use trustmaster pedals with it though. I would like to say that I am real disappointed with Logitech. If you need a part on the old wheel, forget it. They do not even have pots. It would take a lot for me to buy another wheel from them with that kind of support. "Rick Baumhauer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9n3280$4q37e$[email hidden]... > Exactly - I'm already using CH Pedals, and my existing LWFF is approaching2 > years old. For the asking price, I'm definitely interested in picking the > new wheel up. It would undoubtedly make for a good combination with thenew

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> Act-Labs pedals and shifter. > > Rick > > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Yy6l7.97197$[email hidden]... > > > > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:xq6l7.97155$[email hidden]... > > > > > > I wouldn't buy one. > > > > > > > ...unless you are goin to use it with different pedals that is. > > > > > >

I have ordered one already, costing 413 AUD. I also have a GPL shifter and have ordered the act-lab pedals. I agree that the pedals that come with it are crap, so maybe I will hook them up to my old LWFF (which currently have T2 pedals) and perhaps sell it (after I make some new cables for the pulleys). Jaker Amjet

Yep, I'm using a similar setup myself, using the wheel from a Guillemot Ferrari and the pedals from the MS Precision Racing Wheel *but* the huge disadvantage to this is that it only works with GPL. Almost every other game has a controller setup so bad that it can't cope when the pedals aren't connected to the wheel. Which means I can't play F1RC and GP500, and SBK 2001 has no force-feedback (for some strange reason). I'm still looking for the holy grail, a wheel/pedal set with a nice wheel, good FF, no slowdown, durable pedals with plenty of travel (that press forward), and decent driver software (ie a laucher so I don't have to constantly change the settings every time I want to run a game). The MOMO wheel doesn't qualify, so I hope Guillemot have done a good job with the pedals, shifters and software on their new FF GT. "Rick Baumhauer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9n3280$4q37e$[email hidden]... > Exactly - I'm already using CH Pedals, and my existing LWFF is approaching2 > years old. For the asking price, I'm definitely interested in picking the > new wheel up. It would undoubtedly make for a good combination with thenew

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> Act-Labs pedals and shifter. > > Rick > > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Yy6l7.97197$[email hidden]... > > > > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:xq6l7.97155$[email hidden]... > > > > > > I wouldn't buy one. > > > > > > > ...unless you are goin to use it with different pedals that is. > > > > > >

Simon I went on TM's site to look at the new GT, Is it a scaled down version of the orignal Guillemot aka Ferrari wheel or no? I'm asking as when I looked on the sites, the GT was $30 Cheaper then the Original Ferrari & it did not mention anything about analog paddles on the GT wheel? Do you know which is the better of the 2 wheels? Tia.. Thom_j. "Simon Brown" wrote: <snipped> | The MOMO wheel doesn't qualify, so I hope Guillemot have done a good job | with the pedals, shifters and software on their new FF GT. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/2001

Doesn't the limited edition Logi wheel have ball races, better motors and a 270 degree turn as per the Force RS and unlike the red wheeled LWFF? Andi. "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JRml7.171896$[email hidden]...

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> Simon I went on TM's site to look at the new GT, Is it a scaled down > version of the orignal Guillemot aka Ferrari wheel or no? I'm asking as > when I looked on the sites, the GT was $30 Cheaper then the Original > Ferrari & it did not mention anything about analog paddles on the GT > wheel? Do you know which is the better of the 2 wheels? > Tia.. Thom_j. > > "Simon Brown" wrote: > <snipped> > | The MOMO wheel doesn't qualify, so I hope Guillemot have done a good job > | with the pedals, shifters and software on their new FF GT. > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/2001 > >

Dont have a clue? I dont have one and only use Ferrari wheels :) Ooops maybe you were asking Simon?? sorry if you was :) "Andi Cole" wrote: | Doesn't the limited edition Logi wheel have ball races, better motors anda

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| 270 degree turn as per the Force RS and unlike the red wheeled LWFF? | | Andi. | | | "Thom j." wrote: | > Simon I went on TM's site to look at the new GT, Is it a scaled down | > version of the orignal Guillemot aka Ferrari wheel or no? I'm asking as | > when I looked on the sites, the GT was $30 Cheaper then the Original | > Ferrari & it did not mention anything about analog paddles on the GT | > wheel? Do you know which is the better of the 2 wheels? | > Tia.. Thom_j. | > | > "Simon Brown" wrote: | > <snipped> | > | The MOMO wheel doesn't qualify, so I hope Guillemot have done a good

job | > | with the pedals, shifters and software on their new FF GT. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/2001

"Jaker Amjet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have ordered one already, costing 413 AUD. I also have a GPL shifter > and have ordered the act-lab pedals. > > Jaker Amjet Ordered from where? I haven't seen Logitech taking orders.

Ordered from techbuy.com.au. They say they will be getting them in around the 1st week of October. Jaker Amjet

I just learned from another thread here that the Momo-wheel uses the gear-driven guts from the newer GP-wheel. So I expect that even with ball bearings the wheel still feels like stirring in a plastics-recyling bin :-( With cable drive the wheel would be a steal IMO. JensSchumi On Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:28:29 GMT, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I'm sure you've noticed how it looks almost identical to the old LWFF wheel. >Either they wanted to use all the old LWFF parts they still had or they >didn't have the money to design something new. Either way the pedals still >press down instead of forward, and they still look to have very little >travel. > >I wouldn't buy one.

--------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://jensschumi.tripod.com/ GPLRank: -13 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

It's pretty confusing. I just had a look on the US Thrustmaster site, they have a wheel called the Nascar Pro Force Feedback with black pedals tops at �99.99, and another wheel called the Force Feedback Racing Wheel with light grey pedal tops for $129.99. The $129.99 wheel is the one I think you and me have got and the $99.99 one is the new one. Funnily enough the Nascar Pro FF doesn't have a Ferrari badge, yet the new FF GT Racing Wheel does have a Ferrari badge. Anyway, as far as I can tell, the FF GT Racing Wheel is the UK name for the Nascar Pro FF. I think it was at ECTS because it hasn't been released in the UK yet. I don't know how cut-down the Nascar Pro FF/FF GT is, but it doesn't mention the 3lb motor in the specs, so it maybe less powerful, which might explain the price difference. "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qVvl7.173609$[email hidden]... > Dont have a clue? I dont have one and only use Ferrari wheels :) > Ooops maybe you were asking Simon?? sorry if you was :) >

Ok, I see it at Buy.com too. http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10310990&hdwt=30804&loc=14617 "Jaker Amjet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Ordered from techbuy.com.au. They say they will be getting them in > around the 1st week of October. > > Jaker Amjet >

Buy.com has it here for $162 http://www.us.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10310990&hdwt=30804&loc=14617

Plus as stated in my last re-post it seems not to have anaolog paddles either! Damm I hope they never drop the 3lb moter version with those analog paddles behind the hweel or my azz is grass! Grrrrrr :( Hell I'll buy 2 more if this occurs and I have 2 right now!! "Simon Brown" wrote: | It's pretty confusing. I just had a look on the US Thrustmaster site,they | have a wheel called the Nascar Pro Force Feedback with black pedals topsat | �99.99, and another wheel called the Force Feedback Racing Wheel withlight | grey pedal tops for $129.99. | | The $129.99 wheel is the one I think you and me have got and the $99.99one | is the new one. Funnily enough the Nascar Pro FF doesn't have a Ferrari | badge, yet the new FF GT Racing Wheel does have a Ferrari badge. | | Anyway, as far as I can tell, the FF GT Racing Wheel is the UK name forthe | Nascar Pro FF. I think it was at ECTS because it hasn't been released in | the UK yet. | | I don't know how cut-down the Nascar Pro FF/FF GT is, but it doesn'tmention

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| the 3lb motor in the specs, so it maybe less powerful, which might explain | the price difference. | | "Thom j." wrote: | > Dont have a clue? I dont have one and only use Ferrari wheels :) | > Ooops maybe you were asking Simon?? sorry if you was :) | > | | |

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Simon, FYI: I use an LWFF with TSW pedals (not connected to each other) with more than just GPL. In F1RC, as you set up your controller(s) press slowly on the pedals and you'll see various axes scroll by -- some of these will be for your separate pedals. Experiment a bit, and you should be able to use 2 separate controllers with F1RC. N4 is another that comes to mind, which can recognize multiple controllers. Sadly, I think that you're correct about SBK 2001 from what I recall.. That's a strange one since the FF worked fine in SBK2000. NFSPU is another which can be configured to recognize 2 controllers. Hope this helps.... Bert Simon Brown wrote:

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> Yep, I'm using a similar setup myself, using the wheel from a Guillemot > Ferrari and the pedals from the MS Precision Racing Wheel *but* the huge > disadvantage to this is that it only works with GPL. Almost every other > game has a controller setup so bad that it can't cope when the pedals aren't > connected to the wheel. Which means I can't play F1RC and GP500, and SBK > 2001 has no force-feedback (for some strange reason). > > I'm still looking for the holy grail, a wheel/pedal set with a nice wheel, > good FF, no slowdown, durable pedals with plenty of travel (that press > forward), and decent driver software (ie a laucher so I don't have to > constantly change the settings every time I want to run a game). > > The MOMO wheel doesn't qualify, so I hope Guillemot have done a good job > with the pedals, shifters and software on their new FF GT. > > "Rick Baumhauer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9n3280$4q37e$[email hidden]... > > Exactly - I'm already using CH Pedals, and my existing LWFF is approaching > 2 > > years old. For the asking price, I'm definitely interested in picking the > > new wheel up. It would undoubtedly make for a good combination with the > new > > Act-Labs pedals and shifter. > > > > Rick > > > > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Yy6l7.97197$[email hidden]... > > > > > > "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:xq6l7.97155$[email hidden]... > > > > > > > > I wouldn't buy one. > > > > > > > > > > ...unless you are goin to use it with different pedals that is. > > > > > > > > > >

-- Bert

On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 13:10:55 -0400, "Rick Baumhauer" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Exactly - I'm already using CH Pedals, and my existing LWFF is approaching 2 >years old. For the asking price, I'm definitely interested in picking the >new wheel up. It would undoubtedly make for a good combination with the new >Act-Labs pedals and shifter. Same thoughts here, allthough I will keep my CH pedals untill those new BRD pedals will be released. I read some good reports about the Momo wheel.. yes, unfortunately it still uses gears instead of the older cable-driven wheels (which I still use now) but according to the guy who tested it, it is was much better than the crappy LWFF GP wheel, he hardly noticed the gears, contrary to the GP wheel. The pedals also seem to have improved btw - steel toppings and they tilt a bit - no idea how it works but again according to the testguy they worked much better than the original LWFF pedals. Andre

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>Rick > >"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Yy6l7.97197$[email hidden]... >> >> "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:xq6l7.97155$[email hidden]... >> > >> > I wouldn't buy one. >> > >> >> ...unless you are goin to use it with different pedals that is. >> >> >