Has anyone done this with the Logitech FF GP pedals??
"Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Since adding the squash balls to my MS FF Wheel brake pedal (as mentionedin
> a previous post) I have tahen a second off my Mexico time, several seconds
> off of the 'Ring and beatin my Watkin's Glen time yet AGAIN (and these are
> the only tracks I have spent time on sice). With the 'Ring, I beat my
> previous time after doing one (and only one) lap!
>
> Amazing how two little pieces of rubber can change the feel so much andmake
> such a change to lap imes!
>
> Muzza
>
>
Since adding the squash balls to my MS FF Wheel brake pedal (as mentioned in
a previous post) I have tahen a second off my Mexico time, several seconds
off of the 'Ring and beatin my Watkin's Glen time yet AGAIN (and these are
the only tracks I have spent time on sice). With the 'Ring, I beat my
previous time after doing one (and only one) lap!
Amazing how two little pieces of rubber can change the feel so much and make
such a change to lap imes!
Muzza
I don't know. But doing this sacrifices some of the pedal travel. I would
suggest that the OLD Logitech FF pedals had far too little travel for this
to be successful...
Just get a squash ball and try it. Or anything else spongy/rubbery It's not
like it's gonna cost you a fortune (unless you break your pedals, of
course)!
Muzza
"ML" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Has anyone done this with the Logitech FF GP pedals??
>
> "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:RSz67.22722$[email hidden]...
> > Since adding the squash balls to my MS FF Wheel brake pedal (asmentioned
> in
> > a previous post) I have tahen a second off my Mexico time, severalseconds
> > off of the 'Ring and beatin my Watkin's Glen time yet AGAIN (and theseare
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> > the only tracks I have spent time on sice). With the 'Ring, I beat my > > previous time after doing one (and only one) lap! > > > > Amazing how two little pieces of rubber can change the feel so much and > make > > such a change to lap imes! > > > > Muzza > > > > > >"Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> writes:
I have a squash ball instead of the break spring in my 'old' logitech,
and it is a huge improvement imo. The short travel is not a problem
at all. The short travel on the throttle on the other hand is something
I still can't get used to. So compared to my old (broken and returned)
guillemot, the brake is a lot better and the throttle is a lot worse :-)
_
Mats Lofkvist
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> "ML" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:STz67.267116$[email hidden]... > > Has anyone done this with the Logitech FF GP pedals?? > > I don't know. But doing this sacrifices some of the pedal travel. I would > suggest that the OLD Logitech FF pedals had far too little travel for this > to be successful... >Surpises me that it works, but cool!
"Mats Lofkvist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > suggest that the OLD Logitech FF pedals had far too little travel forthis
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> "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > "ML" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:STz67.267116$[email hidden]... > > > Has anyone done this with the Logitech FF GP pedals?? > > > > I don't know. But doing this sacrifices some of the pedal travel. IQuoted text (12 lines)
> > to be successful... > > > > I have a squash ball instead of the break spring in my 'old' logitech, > and it is a huge improvement imo. The short travel is not a problem > at all. The short travel on the throttle on the other hand is something > I still can't get used to. So compared to my old (broken and returned) > guillemot, the brake is a lot better and the throttle is a lot worse :-) > > _ > Mats Lofkvist > [email hidden]Hehe, ya right.
"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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mentioned
> in
> > a previous post) I have tahen a second off my Mexico time, severalseconds
> > off of the 'Ring and beatin my Watkin's Glen time yet AGAIN (and theseare
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> Use a joystick and watch your times drop even further. > > David G Fisher > > "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RSz67.22722$[email hidden]... > > Since adding the squash balls to my MS FF Wheel brake pedal (asQuoted text (11 lines)
> > the only tracks I have spent time on sice). With the 'Ring, I beat my > > previous time after doing one (and only one) lap! > > > > Amazing how two little pieces of rubber can change the feel so much and > make > > such a change to lap imes! > > > > Muzza > > > > >Use a joystick and watch your times drop even further.
David G Fisher
"Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:RSz67.22722$[email hidden]...
> Since adding the squash balls to my MS FF Wheel brake pedal (as mentionedin
> a previous post) I have tahen a second off my Mexico time, several seconds
> off of the 'Ring and beatin my Watkin's Glen time yet AGAIN (and these are
> the only tracks I have spent time on sice). With the 'Ring, I beat my
> previous time after doing one (and only one) lap!
>
> Amazing how two little pieces of rubber can change the feel so much andmake
> such a change to lap imes!
>
> Muzza
>
>
I can't even do a lap without crashing using a joystick, never mind
improving my best lap time !
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Ian P
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"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Use a joystick and watch your times drop even further.
>
> David G Fisher
>
> "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:RSz67.22722$[email hidden]...
> > Since adding the squash balls to my MS FF Wheel brake pedal (as
mentioned
> in
> > a previous post) I have tahen a second off my Mexico time, several
seconds
> > off of the 'Ring and beatin my Watkin's Glen time yet AGAIN (and these
are
> > the only tracks I have spent time on sice). With the 'Ring, I beat my
> > previous time after doing one (and only one) lap!
> >
> > Amazing how two little pieces of rubber can change the feel so much and
> make
> > such a change to lap imes!
> >
> > Muzza
> >
> >
>
"Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:RSz67.22722$[email hidden]...
> Since adding the squash balls to my MS FF Wheel brake pedal (as mentionedin
> a previous post) I have tahen a second off my Mexico time, several seconds
> off of the 'Ring and beatin my Watkin's Glen time yet AGAIN (and these are
> the only tracks I have spent time on sice). With the 'Ring, I beat my
> previous time after doing one (and only one) lap!
>
> Amazing how two little pieces of rubber can change the feel so much andmake
> such a change to lap imes!
>
> Muzza
>
I wrapped some foam rubber around the pedal 'shaft' then wrapped the whole
lot in duct tape. Limits the travel a little, but feels much better than
the original.
Cheers
Simon
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 20:45:23 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>Use a joystick and watch your times drop even further.
>
>David G Fisher
>can you beat a 1.17 around monza in f1rc which my pal did on a
keyboard? my best keyboard time is about 1.18.5 (i have the ghost)
and my best wheel time is 1.19.3 (or .2, i forget).
unfortunately, my times involve some *heavy* kerb-riding for the first
chicane, so i am not too proud of it. the game does not consider it
an 'invalid lap', but i guess I do.
back to your statement, which joystick do you use / recommend. i used
to love my old CH Flightstick for Indycar. What is a good one to get
today? Also do you use the joystick for all inputs or do you use a
pedal or something else?
Regards all,
istoff
"Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Amazing how two little pieces of rubber can change the feel so much andmake
> such a change to lap imes!
>
> Muzza
> hi Muzza
Glad you like the squash ball trick, I've been using it on my MSFF pedals
for about a year now and can't drive GPL without one now.
Any way I recently found another tweak for the MSFF pedals which makes
nearly as much difference, I noticed when calibrating that GPL didn't seem
to be using the full travel of the pedals, i.e. when you push down either
pedal the calibration goes from 64 down to 0 but you still have about 1cm of
travel before the pedals right down.
I decided to investigate further and got the same results in N3, N4 and
DXTweak so I pulled my pedals apart to check out the pots, and it turns out
that the pots only use about the centre third of there rotation. I haven't
been able to find any replacement pots yet, partly because I haven't tried
that hard :) any partly because the pots Microsoft use are completely blank.
So I decided to try building up the little rubber block behind the pedals so
that they only travel as far as there usable range, it turned out to be a
little under 1cm but both pedals were slightly different. Well what a
difference it made, I can modulate the throttle properly now, before if I
wanted to lift of just a little bit I needed to lift of by a cm before I
could lift by that little bit (I think that's what I mean).
I also now use a whole squash ball under my brake pedal now without it
affecting the pedal range anymore than the other mod did.
Mark
GPLRank +67.83 and dropping fast :)
Monster rank 1068.69 must drive the Honda more :(
I don't have a recommendation. I always use a wheel (just bought a new
Ferrari FF two weeks ago). I was referring to a recent thread where a guy
(dc) said he dropped his GPL rank from a +80 to a -1 in four days by
switching to a joystick. Other hotshoes use a stick as well. Even if I was a
bit faster with a stick, I'd stay with a wheel. It just wouldn't feel right
to me not use one.
My best wheel time at Monza is a 1:19 from April 1 in expert mode. Haven't
run it much since then because I usually follow the season schedule.
David G Fisher
"istoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 20:45:23 GMT, "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Use a joystick and watch your times drop even further. > > > >David G Fisher > > > can you beat a 1.17 around monza in f1rc which my pal did on a > keyboard? my best keyboard time is about 1.18.5 (i have the ghost) > and my best wheel time is 1.19.3 (or .2, i forget). > > unfortunately, my times involve some *heavy* kerb-riding for the first > chicane, so i am not too proud of it. the game does not consider it > an 'invalid lap', but i guess I do. > > back to your statement, which joystick do you use / recommend. i used > to love my old CH Flightstick for Indycar. What is a good one to get > today? Also do you use the joystick for all inputs or do you use a > pedal or something else? > > Regards all, > istoff
Murray,
check out my webpage, I use a doorstopper plus a stupid simple resistor cirquit.
Works wonders.
JensSchumi
On Sun, 22 Jul 2001 13:09:01 GMT, "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>I don't know. But doing this sacrifices some of the pedal travel. I would
>suggest that the OLD Logitech FF pedals had far too little travel for this
>to be successful...
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