F1RC where is the f'in patch???

This is absurd, are they really develloping a patch, or is it gonna be called F1RC2? Ubisoft of old was much better than this crap they are flinging at us. I think this game patched blows all other competition away, but in it's current state it just blows. Signed, A Very frustrated F1RC owner.

How would ever think that "this game patched blows all other competition away" if you have no idea if or even know what will be in this 'Vaporware Patch' before they do it? Or even if they do it al?? How many months has everyone been wishing/complaining about this now? They apparently, are not consumer friendly but this old news to me!! Thom_j. "Moe Lefaive" wrote:

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| This is absurd, are they really develloping a patch, or is it gonna be | called F1RC2? | Ubisoft of old was much better than this crap they are flinging at us. I | think this game patched blows all other competition away, but in it's | current state it just blows. | Signed, | A Very frustrated F1RC owner.

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Moe, Saw a UK games mag today - can't remember which one - which promised a "first preview of F1RC 2". As an equally frustrated F1RC owner, I just feel like we're going to have to wait for that, ie F1RC 2 is, in fact, the patch. Crappy customer service, but that just seems to be the way most things are nowadays... Rick.

Ubisoft has failed to even respond to numerous e-mails from me, a paying customer, about a video problem that kept me from even running F1RC. Don't hold your breath waiting for a patch, or even a reply to your concerns. You've been burned, face it. Mine's back at EB. Now, Papyrus...there's a developer with some concern about their customers. J. P. Hovercraft Rick Catton wrote:

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> Moe, > > Saw a UK games mag today - can't remember which one - which promised a > "first preview of F1RC 2". > > As an equally frustrated F1RC owner, I just feel like we're going to have to > wait for that, ie F1RC 2 is, in fact, the patch. Crappy customer service, > but that just seems to be the way most things are nowadays... > > Rick.

> > Saw a UK games mag today - can't remember which one - which promised a > "first preview of F1RC 2". > > As an equally frustrated F1RC owner, I just feel like we're going to haveto > wait for that, ie F1RC 2 is, in fact, the patch. Crappy customer service, > but that just seems to be the way most things are nowadays... And if you walk into your local games shop and buy F1RC2, they will keep on screwing you. Why the frig should they make a patch for free, when the there are plenty of suckers out there willing to shell out for a new game. Who's to say the next one will work ?? The customer is King. That has always been the way. it may not seem like it sometimes, but it's true. Wise up. Don't buy F1RC 2.

"J. P. Hovercraft" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Ubisoft has failed to even respond to numerous e-mails from me, a paying > customer, about a video problem that kept me from even running F1RC. Don'thold > your breath waiting for a patch, or even a reply to your concerns. You'vebeen > burned, face it. Mine's back at EB. > Hey, I at least got a response from them--albeit a two-year-old form letter that didn't have the first damn thing to do with F1RC! :-) Jerry Morelock

> Ubisoft has failed to even respond to numerous e-mails from me, a paying > customer, about a video problem that kept me from even running F1RC. Don'thold > your breath waiting for a patch, or even a reply to your concerns. You'vebeen > burned, face it. Mine's back at EB. >Ubi have responded to my emails on the F1RC patch within a day on about 6 occasions now, and historically they have provided excellent CS for F1RS and MGPRS2. Going back to Pod, they also performed well. However, there is no doubt at all that they are now - not months ago as many people moaned about here - in an embarrassing situation regarding the F1RC patch. It's been way too long. > Now, Papyrus...there's a developer with some concern about theircustomers. >Amazing isn't it? See my post in another thread about how GPL/Papy can come into any thread on this group regardless of subject matter! Iain

"Iain Mackenzie> > > Now, Papyrus...there's a developer with some concern about their > customers. > > > Amazing isn't it? See my post in another thread about how GPL/Papy cancome > into any thread on this group regardless of subject matter! > > Iain lets test that theory Iain, I propose to change the thread to a discussion about...chain-smoking overweight cartoon-loving, women who don't know how to use a computer...now lets see where the discussion goes. dave henrie

Hey Dave, now you're talking! That's my favourite subject!! Iain > lets test that theory Iain, I propose to change the thread to a > discussion about...chain-smoking overweight cartoon-loving, women whodon't > know how to use a computer...now lets see where the discussion goes. > dave henrie > >

On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 23:25:44 +0100, "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The customer is King. That has always been the way. it may not seem like it >sometimes, but it's true. >Wise up. Don't buy F1RC 2. >hi, sorry to be at odds with most of the GPL'ers, but I love F1RC. I enjoy the incredible realism of GPL and play that the most, but when I feel like some modern F1 racing, i stick to F1RC. I don't have the problem with the AI as I tend to drive in the top 6 anyway and its a bit safer there. I have GP3 installed with all the addons. Certainly they improve the game tremendously, but I have to say that it doesn't excite me at all. I agree that the patch is overdue & that the current situation is beyond remedy for most. When I look at previous games (especially POD), I have to say that this does *not* appear to be the Ubisoft of old. I would speculate that the involvement of the FIA is just as much, if not more, to blame. Perhaps they should have stuck with the approach to licensing that they had with previous versions. Just bundle a name changer and sound / graphics editors in the box and leave it all up to us. My current F1RC has been updated with improved sound, track graphics & physics patches and so I still am quite happy to play it. As for the hotlapping feature, excellent. The game isn't perfect, but the main fault (AI) doesn't bother me that much. I *will* buy the sequel if it is shown to have fixed all these problems. As for the GP3 2001 addon? It has to be pretty much better than the current GP3 + the 2001 patch + gpxpatch 1.3 for me to consider buying it. As for F12000CS. A distant 3rd. Expecting much more from the sequel. All my own 2cent opinion. Regards, istoff

On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:01:09 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hey Dave, now you're talking! That's my favourite subject!! >Iain > > >> lets test that theory Iain, I propose to change the thread to a >> discussion about...chain-smoking overweight cartoon-loving, women who >don't >> know how to use a computer...now lets see where the discussion goes. >> dave henrie >> >> >

I was speaking to my favourite .chain-smoking overweight cartoon-loving female friend who doesn't know how to use a computer about the whole Papyrus vs Ubisoft debate in relation to...

well, the official patch is not out yet, but as in GPL or GP3 the "unofficial" ones are blossoming. New release from G-rone and the rest of the gang available on http://www.f1rcstation.4players.de:1046/ Get it and try, with the physics update, the sound updates (personnaly I don't like the hudson sounds but...) the car and track updates this is still miles ahead of any other F1sims, I don't have problems with the AI anymore and I really enjoy this game.... "Moe Lefaive" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: D2Z%6.2414$[email hidden]...

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> This is absurd, are they really develloping a patch, or is it gonna be > called F1RC2? > > Ubisoft of old was much better than this crap they are flinging at us. I > think this game patched blows all other competition away, but in it's > current state it just blows. > > Signed, > A Very frustrated F1RC owner. > > >

Well, I'm a GPL'er and totally agree with your assessment of F1RC :) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers> <istoff> wrote > sorry to be at odds with most of the GPL'ers, but I love F1RC. I > enjoy the incredible realism of GPL and play that the most, but when I > feel like some modern F1 racing, i stick to F1RC. I don't have the > problem with the AI as I tend to drive in the top 6 anyway and its a > bit safer there.

Dave Henrie wrote: > lets test that theory Iain, I propose to change the thread to a > discussion about...chain-smoking overweight cartoon-loving, women who don't > know how to use a computer...now lets see where the discussion goes. > dave henrie I bet her GPLRank really sucks though.... -- Fester

Gee Dave, Even woman love Gpl and Papy makes such a challenge with these sims that they beome bigger & larger chain smoking overweight cartoon babes YummmmmmmmY!! hahaha :o)~ Let the thread & flames begin :-) Thom_j. "Dave Henrie" wrote: | lets test that theory Iain, I propose to change the thread to a | discussion about...chain-smoking overweight cartoon-loving, women whodon't | know how to use a computer...now lets see where the discussion goes. | dave henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

Or maybe UF her Sucking is Rank!!! :-) "Uncle Fester" wrote: | I bet her GPLRank really sucks though.... | -- | Fester --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

Iain Mackenzie wrote: > Amazing isn't it? See my post in another thread about how GPL/Papy can come > into any thread on this group regardless of subject matter! Yes, truly amazing isn't...No, wait a moment, this is rec.autos.simulators? GPL is an auto.simulator made by Papy, who also have a catalogue of other such sims and most of the threads here revolve around sim racing, right? So, it may seem amazing to you, but christ knows why!

renTedBoy wrote: > Wise up. Don't buy F1RC 2. What, even if it's a REALLY good sim? Or REALLY REALLY good, what then? Still don't buy it?

100% ok with you. Did you get the 2.0 update from the german site ? Made by G-rone and the rest of the band, it is just great.... <istoff> a �crit dans le message news: [email hidden]... > On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 23:25:44 +0100, "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >The customer is King. That has always been the way. it may not seem likeit

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> >sometimes, but it's true. > >Wise up. Don't buy F1RC 2. > > > hi, > > sorry to be at odds with most of the GPL'ers, but I love F1RC. I > enjoy the incredible realism of GPL and play that the most, but when I > feel like some modern F1 racing, i stick to F1RC. I don't have the > problem with the AI as I tend to drive in the top 6 anyway and its a > bit safer there. > > I have GP3 installed with all the addons. Certainly they improve the > game tremendously, but I have to say that it doesn't excite me at all. > > I agree that the patch is overdue & that the current situation is > beyond remedy for most. When I look at previous games (especially > POD), I have to say that this does *not* appear to be the Ubisoft of > old. I would speculate that the involvement of the FIA is just as > much, if not more, to blame. > > Perhaps they should have stuck with the approach to licensing that > they had with previous versions. Just bundle a name changer and sound > / graphics editors in the box and leave it all up to us. My current > F1RC has been updated with improved sound, track graphics & physics > patches and so I still am quite happy to play it. As for the > hotlapping feature, excellent. The game isn't perfect, but the main > fault (AI) doesn't bother me that much. I *will* buy the sequel if > it is shown to have fixed all these problems. As for the GP3 2001 > addon? It has to be pretty much better than the current GP3 + the > 2001 patch + gpxpatch 1.3 for me to consider buying it. > > As for F12000CS. A distant 3rd. Expecting much more from the sequel. > > All my own 2cent opinion. > > Regards, > istoff >

eh? I take it you are intentionally missing the point, but just in case let me repeat. My point is that no matter what the subject matter in this group, cetain peope insist on getting GPL into the thread whether it's relevant or not. If we were discussing the size of Jacques Villeneuve's underwear, sure enough someone would bang on about how good Papy would be at making underwear if it used the GPL physics engine, and no doubt JV would require a larger size if he improved his GPL rank! Iain "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > > Amazing isn't it? See my post in another thread about how GPL/Papy cancome

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> > into any thread on this group regardless of subject matter! > > Yes, truly amazing isn't...No, wait a moment, this is > rec.autos.simulators? GPL is an auto.simulator made by Papy, who also > have a catalogue of other such sims and most of the threads here revolve > around sim racing, right? > > So, it may seem amazing to you, but christ knows why!

Iain Mackenzie wrote: The usual anti GPL, anti Papy rhetoric. I think it's ALL in your mind, Iain. Seems to me you have a chip on both shoulders! AND I think you have become abscessed :(. Very sad Gerry "Ahhh, this is fun. I like using bad words and engaging in name-calling." -- David G Fisher

Far from it Gerry, I love GPL and over the last 3 years I've used it more than any other sim and still spend a lot more hours a week on it than I should do. There is no anti-Papy rhetoric from me. It's not Papy that is the problem - they are a wonderful bunch of guys who have produced quality sims over the years that I have bought and loved. The problem is with many of the people on this group who are unable to read posts or communicate on a subject without bringing GPL/Papy into it whether relevant or not. If fans of all other sims did the same, this ng would be completely boring! Iain "Gerry Aitken" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > Iain Mackenzie wrote: > > The usual anti GPL, anti Papy rhetoric. > > I think it's ALL in your mind, Iain. Seems to me you have a chip on both > shoulders! AND I think you have become abscessed :(. > > Very sad > > Gerry > > "Ahhh, this is fun. I like using bad words and engaging in > name-calling." -- David G Fisher

Another DGF wanna'be but God only knows why?? phew!! Btw: is it abscessed [like in infected'ly swollen] or obsessed [like in infected'ly swollen in the head] ?? :-) "Gerry Aitken" wrote: | I think it's ALL in your mind, Iain. Seems to me you have a chip on both | shoulders! AND I think you have become abscessed :(. | Very sad | Gerry --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

My humble apologies on my last post Iain!! Your point is well taken!! Gee aint I a nice guy!! :-) "Iain Mackenzie" wrote: | Far from it Gerry, I love GPL and over the last 3 years I've used it more | than any other sim and still spend a lot more hours a week on it than I | should do. There is no anti-Papy rhetoric from me. It's not Papy that is | the problem - they are a wonderful bunch of guys who have produced quality | sims over the years that I have bought and loved. | The problem is with many of the people on this group who are unable toread | posts or communicate on a subject without bringing GPL/Papy into itwhether | relevant or not. | If fans of all other sims did the same, this ng would be completelyboring! | Iain --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

hi, a big download and well worth it :) On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 17:36:42 GMT, "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote: >100% ok with you. > >Did you get the 2.0 update from the german site ? > >Made by G-rone and the rest of the band, it is just great.... > Regards all, istoff

>"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote > Another DGF wanna'be but God only knows why? Yes, Iain is slowly transforming into a DGF clone. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

"Thom j." wrote: > > Another DGF wanna'be but God only knows why?? phew!! > Btw: is it abscessed [like in infected'ly swollen] or obsessed > [like in infected'ly swollen in the head] ?? :-) > Yes it is indeed 'abscessed', with a chip on both shoulders an infection like this is the usual result :( Gerry

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> >sometimes, but it's true. > >Wise up. Don't buy F1RC 2. > > > hi, > > sorry to be at odds with most of the GPL'ers, but I love F1RC. I > enjoy the incredible realism of GPL and play that the most, but when I > feel like some modern F1 racing, i stick to F1RC. I don't have the > problem with the AI as I tend to drive in the top 6 anyway and its a > bit safer there. >

So you drive with 5 AI at beginner level, huh? Ouch! Sorry about that, but surely you'd have been disappointed without at least *one* smart-assed comment wouldn't you? :-) Jerry Morelock

...chain-smoking overweight cartoon-loving, women who don't know how to use a computer certainly aren't running GPL or F1RC...8^) J. P. Hovercraft istoff wrote:

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> On Tue, 3 Jul 2001 08:01:09 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hey Dave, now you're talking! That's my favourite subject!! > >Iain > > > > > >> lets test that theory Iain, I propose to change the thread to a > >> discussion about...chain-smoking overweight cartoon-loving, women who > >don't > >> know how to use a computer...now lets see where the discussion goes. > >> dave henrie > >> > >> > > > I was speaking to my favourite .chain-smoking overweight > cartoon-loving female friend who doesn't know how to use a computer > about the whole Papyrus vs Ubisoft debate in relation to...

On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 23:32:47 GMT, "chainbreaker" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> ><istoff> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> On Mon, 2 Jul 2001 23:25:44 +0100, "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> > >So you drive with 5 AI at beginner level, huh? > >Ouch! Sorry about that, but surely you'd have been disappointed without at >least *one* smart-assed comment wouldn't you? :-) > >Jerry Morelock >

sh*t. who told you? *grin*. actually, i do find that it is quite hard to overtake the AI in beginner level as you come up on them quite quickly because of the speed difference. maybe the AI has the same problem too ? i'm a sucker for eye candy, i guess. the main reason i play it is to prepare me for the f1 broadcast of the same(sort of) tracks. i then like to compare the footage with the game. Regards all, istoff

Ymenard, Thom, Gerry and all the other GPL cult members, wake up!! One of your own has spoken words eerily similiar to the evil ogre..........DGF!! Bring Istoff back into the fold.........before it's too late. :-( DGF <istoff> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> sorry to be at odds with most of the GPL'ers, but I love F1RC. I > enjoy the incredible realism of GPL and play that the most, but when I > feel like some modern F1 racing, i stick to F1RC. I don't have the > problem with the AI as I tend to drive in the top 6 anyway and its a > bit safer there. > > I have GP3 installed with all the addons. Certainly they improve the > game tremendously, but I have to say that it doesn't excite me at all. > > I agree that the patch is overdue & that the current situation is > beyond remedy for most. When I look at previous games (especially > POD), I have to say that this does *not* appear to be the Ubisoft of > old. I would speculate that the involvement of the FIA is just as > much, if not more, to blame. > > Perhaps they should have stuck with the approach to licensing that > they had with previous versions. Just bundle a name changer and sound > / graphics editors in the box and leave it all up to us. My current > F1RC has been updated with improved sound, track graphics & physics > patches and so I still am quite happy to play it. As for the > hotlapping feature, excellent. The game isn't perfect, but the main > fault (AI) doesn't bother me that much. I *will* buy the sequel if > it is shown to have fixed all these problems. As for the GP3 2001 > addon? It has to be pretty much better than the current GP3 + the > 2001 patch + gpxpatch 1.3 for me to consider buying it. > > As for F12000CS. A distant 3rd. Expecting much more from the sequel. > > All my own 2cent opinion. > > Regards, > istoff

He has been punished - I have been assured he wont fail us again <g> Ash

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| Ymenard, Thom, Gerry and all the other GPL cult members, wake up!! | | One of your own has spoken words eerily similiar to the evil | ogre..........DGF!! | | Bring Istoff back into the fold.........before it's too late. :-( | | DGF | | <istoff> wrote in message

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| > sorry to be at odds with most of the GPL'ers, but I love F1RC. I | > enjoy the incredible realism of GPL and play that the most, but when I | > feel like some modern F1 racing, i stick to F1RC. I don't have the | > problem with the AI as I tend to drive in the top 6 anyway and its a | > bit safer there. | > | > I have GP3 installed with all the addons. Certainly they improve the | > game tremendously, but I have to say that it doesn't excite me at all. | > | > I agree that the patch is overdue & that the current situation is | > beyond remedy for most. When I look at previous games (especially | > POD), I have to say that this does *not* appear to be the Ubisoft of | > old. I would speculate that the involvement of the FIA is just as | > much, if not more, to blame. | > | > Perhaps they should have stuck with the approach to licensing that | > they had with previous versions. Just bundle a name changer and sound | > / graphics editors in the box and leave it all up to us. My current | > F1RC has been updated with improved sound, track graphics & physics | > patches and so I still am quite happy to play it. As for the | > hotlapping feature, excellent. The game isn't perfect, but the main | > fault (AI) doesn't bother me that much. I *will* buy the sequel if | > it is shown to have fixed all these problems. As for the GP3 2001 | > addon? It has to be pretty much better than the current GP3 + the | > 2001 patch + gpxpatch 1.3 for me to consider buying it. | > | > As for F12000CS. A distant 3rd. Expecting much more from the sequel. | > | > All my own 2cent opinion. | > | > Regards, | > istoff |

Hey, I like it too. It's an excellent game. cheers, DK "David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K1b27.7515$[email hidden]...

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> Ymenard, Thom, Gerry and all the other GPL cult members, wake up!! > > One of your own has spoken words eerily similiar to the evil > ogre..........DGF!! > > Bring Istoff back into the fold.........before it's too late. :-( > > DGF > > <istoff> wrote in message

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> > sorry to be at odds with most of the GPL'ers, but I love F1RC. I > > enjoy the incredible realism of GPL and play that the most, but when I > > feel like some modern F1 racing, i stick to F1RC. I don't have the > > problem with the AI as I tend to drive in the top 6 anyway and its a > > bit safer there. > > > > I have GP3 installed with all the addons. Certainly they improve the > > game tremendously, but I have to say that it doesn't excite me at all. > > > > I agree that the patch is overdue & that the current situation is > > beyond remedy for most. When I look at previous games (especially > > POD), I have to say that this does *not* appear to be the Ubisoft of > > old. I would speculate that the involvement of the FIA is just as > > much, if not more, to blame. > > > > Perhaps they should have stuck with the approach to licensing that > > they had with previous versions. Just bundle a name changer and sound > > / graphics editors in the box and leave it all up to us. My current > > F1RC has been updated with improved sound, track graphics & physics > > patches and so I still am quite happy to play it. As for the > > hotlapping feature, excellent. The game isn't perfect, but the main > > fault (AI) doesn't bother me that much. I *will* buy the sequel if > > it is shown to have fixed all these problems. As for the GP3 2001 > > addon? It has to be pretty much better than the current GP3 + the > > 2001 patch + gpxpatch 1.3 for me to consider buying it. > > > > As for F12000CS. A distant 3rd. Expecting much more from the sequel. > > > > All my own 2cent opinion. > > > > Regards, > > istoff >

>"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > Ymenard, Thom, Gerry and all the other GPL cult members, wake up!! Perhaps someday you'll understand that I'm not a GPL worshiper. I mean, it's not because I find the multiplayer and the AI in F1RC to be pure bullshit that I'm necessary a "GPL cult member". I call myself just a reasonable man. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

It is just another typical bullshit reply from this [for lack of a better word] "person" {choke} I race 10-20 different sims constantly not including the kill games & I like them all!!! Just some small minded folks put their $.02 where it isnt asked for nor needed but you already know this!! Thom_j. "ymenard" wrote:

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| Perhaps someday you'll understand that I'm not a GPL worshiper. I mean, | it's not because I find the multiplayer and the AI in F1RC to be pure | bullshit that I'm necessary a "GPL cult member". I call myself just a | reasonable man. | -- | -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> | -- May the Downforce be with you... | -- http://www.ymenard.com/ | -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez | Corporation - helping America into the New World... | >"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote | > Ymenard, Thom, Gerry and all the other GPL cult members, wake up!!

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