GPL argh....

I have hit the wall. GPL will not run. After many posts to this wonderful newsgroup and with the assistance of many I still fail to get GPL to run. This could be longish so please bare with me.. First my system: AMD 900 Athlon ASUS A7V 256 mb ASUS 7100 MX TV OUT Soundblaster LIVE 5.1 Platinum DVD & Burner I have the latest drives, I have even tried both ASUS 12.60 and Nvidia latest for video. I am at a loss. Game will install no worries. Add latest patch OK. Add D3D patch and this is where probs start. Can get into cockpit but after 1-2 sec it freezes. Ctl+Alt+Del won't help. Must reset computer. Also Wingman wheel is acting strange and will not allow me to calibrate wheel as wheel. sometimes have to have gear paddles as wheels. Also when I have the new tracks installed it won't allow me to even get into the cockpit. It says that track not located, weekend cancelled. Are there people experiancing these prob. Could it be hardware/software conflict. I have re formatted, reinstalled heaps of times. Just wanting to enjoy all the new tracks and changes as I haven't played for sometime. Do I sound desparate...not ashamed to say I am. Many thanks in advance. Russ.

Well Russ....I'm having the same problem (exactly) on one computer....different one on the other. Both attempting to install GPL after a year or so of not having it installed. The computer most similar to yours....does the exact same thing (can't make it to T1 in Nurb without complete lockup). What version of Windows...and DX you running? The other computer is not even that good....can't even enter the track (says: "Can't initialize replay system. Canceling Weekend.)....and that system is using DX 8.0 and Win98SE (same as above)...but has a V5 card installed in it. Both systems have tons of ram (PC133 on the V5 box at 768 megs and PC2100 on the GF3 box, 512 megs). Tom

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote > > The other computer is not even that good....can't even enter the track > (says: "Can't initialize replay system. Canceling Weekend.)....and that > system is using DX 8.0 and Win98SE (same as above)...but has a V5 card > installed in it. Both systems have tons of ram (PC133 on the V5 box at768 > megs and PC2100 on the GF3 box, 512 megs). > > Tom > Tom The machine where you get the "Can't initialise replay" message is the one with 768Mb of RAM isn't it? I know this because this problem occurs when GPL is run on a machine with more than 512Mb of RAM. I believe you can work round this by adding: [ Replay ] replayMemoryOverride = 40000 to your core.ini file. The number is the amount of RAM to use for replays. If you limit it to 256000 maximum then GPL should work on that PC. Someone raised the same question on our tech problem forum here: http://www.legendscentral.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=21&t=00 0078 Sorry but I can't help you with the second PC. Cheers Phil Lee Legends Central Admin http://www.legendscentral.com

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:RzV_6.139267$%[email hidden]... Hi! Phil Lee already answered that question with the failing replay system so I will concentrate on the other one. What I've found out is that in most of the cases where GPL freezes with a GeForce card there is some kind of hardware conflict in the system which doesn't show neither in the system manager nor while playing other games. Mostly the gfx card shares an IRQ with some other PCI device. Especially GeForce cards are very sensitive about this. Make sure that it gets its very own IRQ and you'll be fine. Regards Crash

Tom, Sorry to say but I am glad that someone esle is having the same probs. I am running Windows ME, why I changed I 'II never know and I am running DirectX8.0. Just as a side note I used to be able to get around 3066 on 3D mark 2001 benchmark, now I can't even get 1000! Thanks. "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RzV_6.139267$%[email hidden]... > Well Russ....I'm having the same problem (exactly) on one > computer....different one on the other. Both attempting to install GPL > after a year or so of not having it installed. The computer most similarto

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> yours....does the exact same thing (can't make it to T1 in Nurb without > complete lockup). What version of Windows...and DX you running? > > The other computer is not even that good....can't even enter the track > (says: "Can't initialize replay system. Canceling Weekend.)....and that > system is using DX 8.0 and Win98SE (same as above)...but has a V5 card > installed in it. Both systems have tons of ram (PC133 on the V5 box at

768 > megs and PC2100 on the GF3 box, 512 megs). > > Tom > >

Hi Russ, Does GPL run ok with a fresh install in "software only" mode, with NO addons? Which version of DirectX are you using? I use DirectX 8.0a and don't have any problems. I *think* I read somewhere that some people using the Soundblaster Live Plat have had a few probs with GPL. Have you tried different drivers for it? Is your wheel USB or, is it connected via the SB's Gameport? If you are that desperate, why not simply remove the SB, and see if GPL will run properley without it? I did have a similar problem to you about a month ago, where GPL would load, but I could only drive a few 100 yds say, at the ring, and the PC would freeze, with only the reset button to get out of it! I finally found the "carsound patch" was causing the problem. (Still not sure why). As soon as I put the "original" GPL.exe back, everything was fine again! I used to be able to use the carsound patch with no problems before I got my Herc Ge-Force MX 2 32MB (Love this card so can live without the patch <g>). As for the track not loaded/cancelling weekend. Whenever that happens the problem is either an addon track "incorrect" in your 67Season.ini, a double entry for a track or tracks, or, NOT having the number of tracks in the track folder coincide exactly with the number at the top of 67Season.ini If this is happening with ALL of your tracks, it is almost always a CAR causing the problem. Try running the game with NO car/other updates at all. (I suppose you have tried all this though huh?). Myself, I would also disconnect the Steering wheel, and remove it's software, as you have a steering/GPL prob, and try running GPL with just the "standard Keyboard" setup, and see if the game runs ok. GPL, on starting, immediately checks for the presence of anything other than the standard keys, and if it finds it, will present you automatically with the Callibration screen, so try without the wheel connected as I suggested. Sometimes I "forget" to switch on my TM Ferrari FF wheel, and GPL defaults to the keyboard. I have to go back to Windows, switch on and, re-calibrate! I would also make sure that your MX GFX card is NOT overclocked. My Herc is known to be an excellent GFX card for overclocking, but I had some GPL problems even slightly o'clocked, so now I run it at "normal" speed. I use the "official" Nvidia Det 3 6.50 drivers and have had NO PROBLEMS whatsoever with them in ANY game. Have you checked under device manager for a conflict anywhere with any of your hardware? Yout GFX card is not "sharing" an IRQ is it? I have read of someone having this problem before too! Anyway, try these thing out. If none of these suggestions solves the problem. Post again to this thread, and I am sure I will think of something. Can't keep a fellow GPL'er from the best Sim in the World can we? Sorry this is so long, but I am trying to suggest anything I can think of, and you said you were desperate! Good luck, and please post back either way. Mad Max (Andrew) Member LegendsCentral. "Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SPU_6.10435$[email hidden]... > I have hit the wall. GPL will not run. After many posts to this wonderful > newsgroup and with the assistance of many I still fail to get GPL to run. > > <snip>

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> I have hit the wall. GPL will not run. After many posts to this wonderful > newsgroup and with the assistance of many I still fail to get GPL to run. > > This could be longish so please bare with me.. > > First my system: > > AMD 900 Athlon > ASUS A7V > 256 mb > ASUS 7100 MX TV OUT > Soundblaster LIVE 5.1 Platinum > DVD & Burner > > I have the latest drives, I have even tried both ASUS 12.60 and Nvidia > latest for video.

I'm sorry to hear about your problems. Sadly I cannot be of any help, but I do find something positive in your posting.... If I buy a similar spec'ed system, I'll get my social life back ;-) Jon Andersen

Mad Max, Thanks for your tips. I will go through and try removing the sound card. I have had to working with SBLive Plat but I am prepared to lose that to play the game. More on.... "MAD MAX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Russ, > > Does GPL run ok with a fresh install in "software only" mode, with NO > addons? Which version of DirectX are you using? I use DirectX 8.0a anddon't > have any problems. I *think* I read somewhere that some people using the > Soundblaster Live Plat have had a few probs with GPL. Have you tried > different drivers for it? Is your wheel USB or, is it connected via theSB's > Gameport? If you are that desperate, why not simply remove the SB, and see > if GPL will run properley without it? I did have a similar problem to you > about a month ago, where GPL would load, but I could only drive a few 100 > yds say, at the ring, and the PC would freeze, with only the reset buttonto > get out of it! I finally found the "carsound patch" was causing theproblem. > (Still not sure why). As soon as I put the "original" GPL.exe back, > everything was fine again! I used to be able to use the carsound patchwith > no problems before I got my Herc Ge-Force MX 2 32MB (Love this card so can > live without the patch <g>). > > As for the track not loaded/cancelling weekend. Whenever that happens the > problem is either an addon track "incorrect" in your 67Season.ini, adouble > entry for a track or tracks, or, NOT having the number of tracks in the > track folder coincide exactly with the number at the top of 67Season.ini When I go into the track area there is a file named 67season however it isn't marked as 67season.ini. Should this be the case. > If this is happening with ALL of your tracks, it is almost always a CAR > causing the problem. Try running the game with NO car/other updates atall. > (I suppose you have tried all this though huh?). Correct have tried this and ran OK altho graphics as you would expect were poor. It also ran OK with latest patch for game 1.2.0.1 I think but bring in the D3D patch and probs start. I am currently reading up on IRQ and PCI as Crash suggested. Pretty dumb when it comes to computers. > > Myself, I would also disconnect the Steering wheel, and remove it's > software, as you have a steering/GPL prob, and try running GPL with justthe > "standard Keyboard" setup, and see if the game runs ok. GPL, on starting, > immediately checks for the presence of anything other than the standard > keys, and if it finds it, will present you automatically with the > Callibration screen, so try without the wheel connected as I suggested. > Sometimes I "forget" to switch on my TM Ferrari FF wheel, and GPL defaults > to the keyboard. I have to go back to Windows, switch on and,re-calibrate! > > I would also make sure that your MX GFX card is NOT overclocked. Never overclock...don't know how! My Herc is > known to be an excellent GFX card for overclocking, but I had some GPL > problems even slightly o'clocked, so now I run it at "normal" speed. I use > the "official" Nvidia Det 3 6.50 drivers and have had NO PROBLEMS > whatsoever with them in ANY game. Have you checked under device managerfor > a conflict anywhere with any of your hardware? Yout GFX card is not > "sharing" an IRQ is it? I have read of someone having this problem before > too! > > Anyway, try these thing out. If none of these suggestions solves the > problem. Post again to this thread, and I am sure I will think ofsomething. > Can't keep a fellow GPL'er from the best Sim in the World can we? Sorrythis > is so long, but I am trying to suggest anything I can think of, and yousaid

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> you were desperate! > > Good luck, and please post back either way. > > Mad Max (Andrew) Member LegendsCentral. > > > "Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:SPU_6.10435$[email hidden]... > > I have hit the wall. GPL will not run. After many posts to this

wonderful > > newsgroup and with the assistance of many I still fail to get GPL torun. > > > > <snip> > >

I feel that these probs have kept me away more than the games!! "Jon Andersen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:tI4%6.7680$[email hidden]... > > I have hit the wall. GPL will not run. After many posts to thiswonderful > > newsgroup and with the assistance of many I still fail to get GPL torun.

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> > > > This could be longish so please bare with me.. > > > > First my system: > > > > AMD 900 Athlon > > ASUS A7V > > 256 mb > > ASUS 7100 MX TV OUT > > Soundblaster LIVE 5.1 Platinum > > DVD & Burner > > > > I have the latest drives, I have even tried both ASUS 12.60 and Nvidia > > latest for video. > > I'm sorry to hear about your problems. Sadly I cannot be of any help, but

I > do find something positive in your posting.... > > If I buy a similar spec'ed system, I'll get my social life back ;-) > > Jon Andersen >

Have you switched FSAA on? "Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d_X_6.10571$[email hidden]...

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> Tom, > > Sorry to say but I am glad that someone esle is having the same probs. > > I am running Windows ME, why I changed I 'II never know and I am running > DirectX8.0. > > Just as a side note I used to be able to get around 3066 on 3D mark 2001 > benchmark, now I can't even get 1000! > > Thanks. > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RzV_6.139267$%[email hidden]... > > Well Russ....I'm having the same problem (exactly) on one > > computer....different one on the other. Both attempting to install GPL > > after a year or so of not having it installed. The computer most

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> to > > yours....does the exact same thing (can't make it to T1 in Nurb without > > complete lockup). What version of Windows...and DX you running? > > > > The other computer is not even that good....can't even enter the track > > (says: "Can't initialize replay system. Canceling Weekend.)....and that > > system is using DX 8.0 and Win98SE (same as above)...but has a V5 card > > installed in it. Both systems have tons of ram (PC133 on the V5 box at > 768 > > megs and PC2100 on the GF3 box, 512 megs). > > > > Tom > > > > > >

Sorry not sure what FSAA is? Could you please explain for me. Thanks. "Tim Harrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9hk7hh$4cd$[email hidden]...

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> Have you switched FSAA on? > > > "Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:d_X_6.10571$[email hidden]... > > Tom, > > > > Sorry to say but I am glad that someone esle is having the same probs. > > > > I am running Windows ME, why I changed I 'II never know and I am running > > DirectX8.0. > > > > Just as a side note I used to be able to get around 3066 on 3D mark 2001 > > benchmark, now I can't even get 1000! > > > > Thanks. > > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:RzV_6.139267$%[email hidden]... > > > Well Russ....I'm having the same problem (exactly) on one > > > computer....different one on the other. Both attempting to install

GPL > > > after a year or so of not having it installed. The computer most > similar > > to > > > yours....does the exact same thing (can't make it to T1 in Nurbwithout > > > complete lockup). What version of Windows...and DX you running? > > > > > > The other computer is not even that good....can't even enter the track > > > (says: "Can't initialize replay system. Canceling Weekend.)....andthat > > > system is using DX 8.0 and Win98SE (same as above)...but has a V5 card > > > installed in it. Both systems have tons of ram (PC133 on the V5 boxat

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> > 768 > > > megs and PC2100 on the GF3 box, 512 megs). > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > >

Russ, I've installed SBL! on 5 different 'putas, and on 4 of them the elaborate pgms. that came on the CD would either bring the system to its knees or crash it altogether. I'd recommend taking the "Install drivers only" option from the CD and see if that doesn't help. --Steve Smith "Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:W68%6.10857$[email hidden]... > Mad Max, > > Thanks for your tips. I will go through and try removing the sound card.I > have had to working with SBLive Plat but I am prepared to lose that toplay

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> the game. > > More on.... > > > "MAD MAX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hi Russ, > > > > Does GPL run ok with a fresh install in "software only" mode, with NO > > addons? Which version of DirectX are you using? I use DirectX 8.0a and > don't > > have any problems. I *think* I read somewhere that some people using the > > Soundblaster Live Plat have had a few probs with GPL. Have you tried > > different drivers for it? Is your wheel USB or, is it connected via the > SB's > > Gameport? If you are that desperate, why not simply remove the SB, and

see > > if GPL will run properley without it? I did have a similar problem toyou > > about a month ago, where GPL would load, but I could only drive a few100 > > yds say, at the ring, and the PC would freeze, with only the resetbutton

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> to > > get out of it! I finally found the "carsound patch" was causing the > problem. > > (Still not sure why). As soon as I put the "original" GPL.exe back, > > everything was fine again! I used to be able to use the carsound patch > with > > no problems before I got my Herc Ge-Force MX 2 32MB (Love this card so

can > > live without the patch <g>). > > > > As for the track not loaded/cancelling weekend. Whenever that happensthe

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> > problem is either an addon track "incorrect" in your 67Season.ini, a > double > > entry for a track or tracks, or, NOT having the number of tracks in the > > track folder coincide exactly with the number at the top of 67Season.ini > > When I go into the track area there is a file named 67season however it > isn't marked as 67season.ini. Should this be the case. > > > > If this is happening with ALL of your tracks, it is almost always a CAR > > causing the problem. Try running the game with NO car/other updates at > all. > > (I suppose you have tried all this though huh?). > > Correct have tried this and ran OK altho graphics as you would expect were > poor. It also ran OK with latest patch for game 1.2.0.1 I think but bring

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> the D3D patch and probs start. I am currently reading up on IRQ and PCI as > Crash suggested. Pretty dumb when it comes to computers. > > > > Myself, I would also disconnect the Steering wheel, and remove it's > > software, as you have a steering/GPL prob, and try running GPL with just > the > > "standard Keyboard" setup, and see if the game runs ok. GPL, on

starting, > > immediately checks for the presence of anything other than the standard > > keys, and if it finds it, will present you automatically with the > > Callibration screen, so try without the wheel connected as I suggested. > > Sometimes I "forget" to switch on my TM Ferrari FF wheel, and GPLdefaults

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> > to the keyboard. I have to go back to Windows, switch on and, > re-calibrate! > > > > I would also make sure that your MX GFX card is NOT overclocked. > > Never overclock...don't know how! > > > My Herc is > > known to be an excellent GFX card for overclocking, but I had some GPL > > problems even slightly o'clocked, so now I run it at "normal" speed. I

use > > the "official" Nvidia Det 3 6.50 drivers and have had NO PROBLEMS > > whatsoever with them in ANY game. Have you checked under device manager > for > > a conflict anywhere with any of your hardware? Yout GFX card is not > > "sharing" an IRQ is it? I have read of someone having this problembefore

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> > too! > > > > Anyway, try these thing out. If none of these suggestions solves the > > problem. Post again to this thread, and I am sure I will think of > something. > > Can't keep a fellow GPL'er from the best Sim in the World can we? Sorry > this > > is so long, but I am trying to suggest anything I can think of, and you > said > > you were desperate! > > > > Good luck, and please post back either way. > > > > Mad Max (Andrew) Member LegendsCentral. > > > > > > "Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:SPU_6.10435$[email hidden]... > > > I have hit the wall. GPL will not run. After many posts to this > wonderful > > > newsgroup and with the assistance of many I still fail to get GPL to > run. > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > >

FSAA is a feature first shown on V5 cards and later and slightly less effective on Nvidia video cards. FSAA stands for something like; Full Screen Anti Alias which means it cleans up the picture and removes most of the jagged little lines that remind you your looking at a computer screen. FSAA is enabled in your 3dfx tools section. There is a penalty speedwise for running fsaa. Most folks who used to run at 1024x760 have lowered their screen resoulution to 800x600 and with the FSAA it usually looks better. Nvidia's first attempt at FSAA was a software hack, it was slower and didn't look as good. on thier new card the GF3, they have a new method of FSAA that looks pretty good(equal to 3dfx) but the rumours were the speed penalty would not happen. From what i've seen here, it did. Anytime you add a feature that works on your screen, like FSAA, it's bound to slow down your output. dave henrie "Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Skl%6.11473$[email hidden]...

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> Sorry not sure what FSAA is? > > Could you please explain for me. > > Thanks. > "Tim Harrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9hk7hh$4cd$[email hidden]... > > Have you switched FSAA on? > > > > > > "Russ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:d_X_6.10571$[email hidden]... > > > Tom, > > > > > > Sorry to say but I am glad that someone esle is having the same probs. > > > > > > I am running Windows ME, why I changed I 'II never know and I am

running > > > DirectX8.0. > > > > > > Just as a side note I used to be able to get around 3066 on 3D mark2001

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> > > benchmark, now I can't even get 1000! > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:RzV_6.139267$%[email hidden]... > > > > Well Russ....I'm having the same problem (exactly) on one > > > > computer....different one on the other. Both attempting to install > GPL > > > > after a year or so of not having it installed. The computer most > > similar > > > to > > > > yours....does the exact same thing (can't make it to T1 in Nurb > without > > > > complete lockup). What version of Windows...and DX you running? > > > > > > > > The other computer is not even that good....can't even enter the

track > > > > (says: "Can't initialize replay system. Canceling Weekend.)....and > that > > > > system is using DX 8.0 and Win98SE (same as above)...but has a V5card

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> > > > installed in it. Both systems have tons of ram (PC133 on the V5 box > at > > > 768 > > > > megs and PC2100 on the GF3 box, 512 megs). > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >