Another racer death :-(

Canadian Racer Killed in Car Accident MIRABEL, Quebec (AP) - Jean-Francois Gaulin, a racer on the developmental Formula 2000 series, was killed along with two passengers Tuesday when his speeding Porsche crashed into an electric pole. Cpl. Jean Finet of Quebec provincial police said the car, which might have lost a tire, was probably going more than 150 mph on Highway 15, a six-lane road that runs north from Montreal. ``That's a fact,'' Finet said. ``The car was going very, very fast.'' The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular bar nearby. The car, driven by the 28-year-old Gaulin, flipped over three times before slamming into a utility pole. ``He was a very affable, very reserved young man,'' Didier Schrannen, a journalist who covered the racing circuit, said of Gaulin. '`I don't know what kind of habits he had as a driver on the road, but I know he was very prudent on the race course.'' The other man and woman who died were in their late 20s or early 30s. A 29-year-old woman, the fourth occupant in the car, was hospitalized in serious but stable condition. Their names were not released by authorities. -- Fester

Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > bar nearby. this is not a "racer" death. It is the death of an idiot intent on reckless driving in an uncontrolled enviroment. He just happened to race as well. Z. -- Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

I agree with ya, Zonky. They just left a bar, and decided to go on a joyride at 156 mph. Pretty stupid if you ask me. Zonky <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > > bar nearby. > > this is not a "racer" death. It is the death of an idiot intent on

reckless > driving in an uncontrolled enviroment. He just happened to race as well. > > Z. > > -- > Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

Ah, 156 in a 62. Sounds like he deserved to die. Pity the innocent people with him. "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Canadian Racer Killed in Car Accident > > MIRABEL, Quebec (AP) - Jean-Francois Gaulin, a racer > on the developmental Formula 2000 series, was killed > along with two passengers Tuesday when his speeding > Porsche crashed into an electric pole. > > Cpl. Jean Finet of Quebec provincial police said the car, > which might have lost a tire, was probably going more than > 150 mph on Highway 15, a six-lane road that runs north > from Montreal. > > ``That's a fact,'' Finet said. ``The car was going very, very > fast.'' > > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > bar nearby. > > The car, driven by the 28-year-old Gaulin, flipped over > three times before slamming into a utility pole. > > ``He was a very affable, very reserved young man,'' Didier > Schrannen, a journalist who covered the racing circuit, > said of Gaulin. > > '`I don't know what kind of habits he had as a driver on the > road, but I know he was very prudent on the race course.'' > > The other man and woman who died were in their late 20s > or early 30s. A 29-year-old woman, the fourth occupant in > the car, was hospitalized in serious but stable condition. > > Their names were not released by authorities. > > -- > > Fester

"Eddie Pettit" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > Ah, 156 in a 62. Sounds like he deserved to die. Pity the innocent > people with him. Really? If he'd been drinking- then they were stupid If he was speeding that much and they didn't even ask him to stop... Z. -- Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

What an idiot. CW "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Canadian Racer Killed in Car Accident > > MIRABEL, Quebec (AP) - Jean-Francois Gaulin, a racer > on the developmental Formula 2000 series, was killed > along with two passengers Tuesday when his speeding > Porsche crashed into an electric pole. > > Cpl. Jean Finet of Quebec provincial police said the car, > which might have lost a tire, was probably going more than > 150 mph on Highway 15, a six-lane road that runs north > from Montreal. > > ``That's a fact,'' Finet said. ``The car was going very, very > fast.'' > > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > bar nearby. > > The car, driven by the 28-year-old Gaulin, flipped over > three times before slamming into a utility pole. > > ``He was a very affable, very reserved young man,'' Didier > Schrannen, a journalist who covered the racing circuit, > said of Gaulin. > > '`I don't know what kind of habits he had as a driver on the > road, but I know he was very prudent on the race course.'' > > The other man and woman who died were in their late 20s > or early 30s. A 29-year-old woman, the fourth occupant in > the car, was hospitalized in serious but stable condition. > > Their names were not released by authorities. > > -- > > Fester

Hate to see another death in this world but I really think this guy had it coming. I grew up having a father who was a volunteer fireman and now I myself have become one. I've seen things like this more often than I care to see. My opinion is if your gonna go fast in your personal car, have the common sense to do it in a controlled environment on a race track. Most tracks have "open to the public" type things where all you need is a certification from the track or an SCCA liscence and you can race on the weekend. Regardless of stupidity, my condolences do go out to the families of those involved...the loss of a loved one is still a loss no matter what the circumstances. Chris "Its something unpredictible but in the end is right, I hope you had the time of your life."-Greenday

Agreed. "Zonky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > > bar nearby. > > this is not a "racer" death. It is the death of an idiot intent on

reckless > driving in an uncontrolled enviroment. He just happened to race as well. > > Z. > > -- > Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

does this mean Black hole motor sports WON'T be setting up a memorandum site? Cowen Wilson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> What an idiot. > > CW > > "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Canadian Racer Killed in Car Accident > > > > MIRABEL, Quebec (AP) - Jean-Francois Gaulin, a racer > > on the developmental Formula 2000 series, was killed > > along with two passengers Tuesday when his speeding > > Porsche crashed into an electric pole. > > > > Cpl. Jean Finet of Quebec provincial police said the car, > > which might have lost a tire, was probably going more than > > 150 mph on Highway 15, a six-lane road that runs north > > from Montreal. > > > > ``That's a fact,'' Finet said. ``The car was going very, very > > fast.'' > > > > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > > bar nearby. > > > > The car, driven by the 28-year-old Gaulin, flipped over > > three times before slamming into a utility pole. > > > > ``He was a very affable, very reserved young man,'' Didier > > Schrannen, a journalist who covered the racing circuit, > > said of Gaulin. > > > > '`I don't know what kind of habits he had as a driver on the > > road, but I know he was very prudent on the race course.'' > > > > The other man and woman who died were in their late 20s > > or early 30s. A 29-year-old woman, the fourth occupant in > > the car, was hospitalized in serious but stable condition. > > > > Their names were not released by authorities. > > > > -- > > > > Fester > >

"Eddie Pettit" <[email hidden]> writes: > Ah, 156 in a 62. Sounds like he deserved to die. Pity the innocent people > with him. I wouldn't say drunk driving should be penalized with death, but a drunk driver should have his licence and car removed for a pretty long time. A traffic death is always said, but as Zonky said, doing 156 mph drunk is kind of asking for it. -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

I know I might get flamed for this... but I for one dont feel sorry for this driver at all. Only an idiot would drive at over 150mph in a 60 mph zone. I'm sorry, but this chap was asking for it! ed_ Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> skrev i meldingsnyheter:[email hidden]...

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> Canadian Racer Killed in Car Accident > > MIRABEL, Quebec (AP) - Jean-Francois Gaulin, a racer > on the developmental Formula 2000 series, was killed > along with two passengers Tuesday when his speeding > Porsche crashed into an electric pole. > > Cpl. Jean Finet of Quebec provincial police said the car, > which might have lost a tire, was probably going more than > 150 mph on Highway 15, a six-lane road that runs north > from Montreal. > > ``That's a fact,'' Finet said. ``The car was going very, very > fast.'' > > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > bar nearby. > > The car, driven by the 28-year-old Gaulin, flipped over > three times before slamming into a utility pole. > > ``He was a very affable, very reserved young man,'' Didier > Schrannen, a journalist who covered the racing circuit, > said of Gaulin. > > '`I don't know what kind of habits he had as a driver on the > road, but I know he was very prudent on the race course.'' > > The other man and woman who died were in their late 20s > or early 30s. A 29-year-old woman, the fourth occupant in > the car, was hospitalized in serious but stable condition. > > Their names were not released by authorities. > > -- > > Fester

You are absolutely right. Not only was he endangering his life and the lives of those in the car with him -- who had a CHOICE and decided themselves to ride with him -- but he was endangering the lives of completely innocent people who did NOT have a choice in the matter. I'm just glad he didn't kill anyone who wasn't in the car with him. I feel sorry for his family, but the way I look at it this is one less moronic jackass that I have to worry about killing a member of MY family. Todd Walker GPLRank: +94.28 twalker at jam dot rr dot com http://twalker.d2g.com On Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:06:47 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I know I might get flamed for this... but I for one dont feel sorry for >this driver at all. >Only an idiot would drive at over 150mph in a 60 mph zone. >I'm sorry, but this chap was asking for it! > >ed_ > > >Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> skrev i >meldingsnyheter:[email hidden]... >> Canadian Racer Killed in Car Accident >> >> MIRABEL, Quebec (AP) - Jean-Francois Gaulin, a racer >> on the developmental Formula 2000 series, was killed >> along with two passengers Tuesday when his speeding >> Porsche crashed into an electric pole. >> >> Cpl. Jean Finet of Quebec provincial police said the car, >> which might have lost a tire, was probably going more than >> 150 mph on Highway 15, a six-lane road that runs north >> from Montreal. >> >> ``That's a fact,'' Finet said. ``The car was going very, very >> fast.'' >> >> The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche >> Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. >> The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular >> bar nearby. >> >> The car, driven by the 28-year-old Gaulin, flipped over >> three times before slamming into a utility pole. >> >> ``He was a very affable, very reserved young man,'' Didier >> Schrannen, a journalist who covered the racing circuit, >> said of Gaulin. >> >> '`I don't know what kind of habits he had as a driver on the >> road, but I know he was very prudent on the race course.'' >> >> The other man and woman who died were in their late 20s >> or early 30s. A 29-year-old woman, the fourth occupant in >> the car, was hospitalized in serious but stable condition. >> >> Their names were not released by authorities. >> >> -- >> >> Fester >

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> Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]: > > > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > > bar nearby. > > this is not a "racer" death. It is the death of an idiot intent on

reckless > driving in an uncontrolled enviroment. He just happened to race as well. >Thank you.

> > this is not a "racer" death. It is the death of an idiot intent onreckless > driving in an uncontrolled enviroment. He just happened to race as well. Agreed for once !! MS > > Z. > > -- > Please remove my_pants when replying by email.

Ed Solheim <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:n8q_6.579$[email hidden]... > I know I might get flamed for this... but I for one dont feel sorry for > this driver at all. > Only an idiot would drive at over 150mph in a 60 mph zone. > I'm sorry, but this chap was asking for it! I can only say thank heavens that he never killed anybody OUTSIDE of his own car as well. MS

Mark Seery <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ULq_6.27959$[email hidden]...

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> > Ed Solheim <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:n8q_6.579$[email hidden]... > > I know I might get flamed for this... but I for one dont feel sorry for > > this driver at all. > > Only an idiot would drive at over 150mph in a 60 mph zone. > > I'm sorry, but this chap was asking for it! > > I can only say thank heavens that he never killed anybody OUTSIDE of his

own > car as well. >like that moron on Long Island did yesterday....sad.

Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote on 27 Jun 2001: <snip> > The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > bar nearby.<snip> > '`I don't know what kind of habits he had as a driver on the > road, but I know he was very prudent on the race course.''<snip> Much as I hate to see anyone die, I have to reserve my sympathies in this case pretty much entirely for the passengers (assuming they weren't egging him on) and the families. There's no indicatioon as to whether the driver was drunk, but frankly 156 in a 62 zone tells its own story. Yes, I know I haven't mentioned the name. Bluntly, I'm not at all sure he deserves it. -- David. (GPLRank handicap -6.57 [*hooray!*]; Monsters +271.79) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

The two girls were asking him to stop speeding, that he was mad... He answered "Hey no problem I once drove a formula 1". The survivor whom just had met him in that bar, also said that is radar detector was continually beeping, they just had past a Patrol car at slow speed minutes before the accident. I just read that in the newspaper tonight. Denis -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

"Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Eddie Pettit" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Ah, 156 in a 62. Sounds like he deserved to die. Pity the innocentpeople > > with him. > > I wouldn't say drunk driving should be penalized with death, but a > drunk driver should have his licence and car removed for a pretty longtime.

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> > A traffic death is always said, but as Zonky said, doing 156 mph drunk > is kind of asking for it. > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying

How do you know he was drunk?

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> "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Eddie Pettit" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > Ah, 156 in a 62. Sounds like he deserved to die. Pity the innocent > people > > > with him. > > > > I wouldn't say drunk driving should be penalized with death, but a > > drunk driver should have his licence and car removed for a pretty long > time. > > > > A traffic death is always said, but as Zonky said, doing 156 mph drunk > > is kind of asking for it. > > > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin > > remove .spam when replying > > How do you know he was drunk?

They had been to a bar. And even one beer reduces the ability to drive a car so much that it shouldn't be done. -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

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> The lone survivor in the car told police the Porsche > Carrera 2001 was going 156 mph at the time of the crash. > The speed limit is 62 mph. The four had just left a popular > bar nearby. > > The car, driven by the 28-year-old Gaulin, flipped over > three times before slamming into a utility pole.

It's amazing that anyone survived - an auto crash at that speed is more like an aircraft accident. And four people in a Porsche Carrera! The seats in the back are only really big enough for 5 year olds. - Michael