M$ FF Wheel problem.

Hello all ... I have a USB M$ FF Wheel, perfect condition. I haven't used it for a while but have decided to get GPL up and running on my machine. I plug in the wheel, load the software (Sidewinder v3.02) but the machine refuses to see the wheel. All I get is a HID Joystick (shown connected). After installation, in the Game controller panel I get a Feedback pro stick showing, (as Not connected), but NO Sidewinder wheel! I have two USB ports on my machine. Using them are a Phillips ToUCam Pro webacm and a M$ Intellimouse. I can uninstall the webcam software and move the mouse to a PS/2 port but my machine still fails to recognise my wheel. The wheel does work .... in the calibration section of the stick my machine **thinks** is connected, the movements of the wheel do show up. The soundcard is an SBLive, (Full). This wheell **used** to work fine. Has anyone any ideas? -- Cheers Mick

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> > Hello all ... > > I have a USB M$ FF Wheel, perfect condition. > > I haven't used it for a while but have decided to get GPL up and running > on my machine. > > I plug in the wheel, load the software (Sidewinder v3.02) but the machine > refuses to see the wheel. All I get is a HID Joystick (shown connected). > After installation, in the Game controller panel I get a Feedback pro > stick showing, (as Not connected), but NO Sidewinder wheel! > > I have two USB ports on my machine. Using them are a Phillips ToUCam Pro > webacm and a M$ Intellimouse. I can uninstall the webcam software and > move the mouse to a PS/2 port but my machine still fails to recognise my > wheel. > > The wheel does work .... in the calibration section of the stick my > machine **thinks** is connected, the movements of the wheel do show up. > > The soundcard is an SBLive, (Full). > > This wheell **used** to work fine. > > Has anyone any ideas? > > -- > Cheers > > Mick

Well, seams to me that you are trying to use wrong software version. If I remember correctly Sidewinder software v3.02 is for M$FF game port version only. USB version of M$FF needs SideWinder software v4.0 -> Matti

On Sat, 12 May 2001 21:02:19 +0300, Matti Jaakkonen <[email hidden]> wrote: >Well, seams to me that you are trying to use wrong software version. If >I remember correctly Sidewinder software v3.02 is for M$FF game port >version only. USB version of M$FF needs SideWinder software v4.0 -> > >Matti Correct. And when you install that software it will ask for the Win9x cdrom to install some other stuff for USB controller. It should still be recognized even without the Sidewinder software installed though. It was on my Win98 system. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Mick have you ever installed the Colin McRae 2 demo or full game? That overwrites the Windows system file responsible for wheel input (hid.dll I think) and means your Sidewinder wheel will not get recognised. I'll try and dig out the posts detailing how to restore the original hid.dll if you like.....? Cheers Jim "Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hello all ... > > I have a USB M$ FF Wheel, perfect condition. > > I haven't used it for a while but have decided to get GPL up and running > on my machine. > > I plug in the wheel, load the software (Sidewinder v3.02) but the machine > refuses to see the wheel. All I get is a HID Joystick (shown connected). > After installation, in the Game controller panel I get a Feedback pro > stick showing, (as Not connected), but NO Sidewinder wheel! > > I have two USB ports on my machine. Using them are a Phillips ToUCam Pro > webacm and a M$ Intellimouse. I can uninstall the webcam software and > move the mouse to a PS/2 port but my machine still fails to recognise my > wheel. > > The wheel does work .... in the calibration section of the stick my > machine **thinks** is connected, the movements of the wheel do show up. > > The soundcard is an SBLive, (Full). > > This wheell **used** to work fine. > > Has anyone any ideas? > > -- > Cheers > > Mick

On Sat, 12 May 2001 20:02:50 +0100, "Jim L" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Mick have you ever installed the Colin McRae 2 demo or full game? That >overwrites the Windows system file responsible for wheel input (hid.dll I >think) and means your Sidewinder wheel will not get recognised. I'll try and >dig out the posts detailing how to restore the original hid.dll if you >like.....? > >Cheers >Jim

Thx for reminding me of that. I have to reinstall CM2.0 and just backed up my hid.dll from windows\system\ so that I can restore it after installing CM2.0. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] mumbled something about ... > > Well, seams to me that you are trying to use wrong software version. If > I remember correctly Sidewinder software v3.02 is for M$FF game port > version only. USB version of M$FF needs SideWinder software v4.0 -> Matti .... you are dead right! I just knew it had to be something simple ... turned out it was me all along! Thanks -- Mick

On Sat, 12 May 2001 21:02:19 +0300, Matti Jaakkonen <[email hidden]> wrote: -snip- > >Well, seams to me that you are trying to use wrong software version. If >I remember correctly Sidewinder software v3.02 is for M$FF game port >version only. USB version of M$FF needs SideWinder software v4.0 -> > >Matti Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v. 3.02! -- /Jesper Rasmussen OBS: Remove -NOWAY- before replying!

On Sat, 12 May 2001 21:02:19 +0300, Matti Jaakkonen -snip- Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v. 3.02! -- /Jesper Rasmussen OBS: Remove -NOWAY- before replying!

On Mon, 14 May 2001 07:18:12 +0200, Jesper Rasmussen <[email hidden]> wrote: >Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v. >3.02! It should be on the cdrom that came with your wheel. v4.0 is only distributed with the hardware that needs it. Maybe contact MS and say you lost your cdrom and they will send you a copy. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Mon, 14 May 2001 08:10:24 -0400, Jagg <[email hidden]> wrote: >>Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v. >>3.02! > >It should be on the cdrom that came with your wheel. v4.0 is only >distributed with the hardware that needs it. Maybe contact MS and say >you lost your cdrom and they will send you a copy. As you already guessed I haven't got the CD (bought my wheel secondhanded). Is there really no site where I can download the software? Or would you (or someone else) email it directly to me (if it's less than 10MBs in size)? I could contact MS but I fear that it might take allmost forever for them to send me another CD ;-( TIA -- /Jesper Rasmussen OBS: Remove -NOWAY- before replying!

In article <[email hidden]>, jr-lbk@-NOWAY- mail1.stofanet.dk mumbled something about ...

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> On Sat, 12 May 2001 21:02:19 +0300, Matti Jaakkonen > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > -snip- > > > > >Well, seams to me that you are trying to use wrong software version. If > >I remember correctly Sidewinder software v3.02 is for M$FF game port > >version only. USB version of M$FF needs SideWinder software v4.0 -> > > > >Matti > > Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v. > 3.02! >

If I can act the expert now ... (as if??) ... v4 is for USB connected controllers. V3.02 is for gameport connected controllers. If you have a USB version of a Sidewinder you should have got a CD with it with the v4 drivers. I did, but fool that I am .... forgot! So much for the sheer power of the human brain eh? -- Mick

On Mon, 14 May 2001 19:43:24 +0100, Mick <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >If I can act the expert now ... (as if??) ... v4 is for USB connected >controllers. V3.02 is for gameport connected controllers. If you have a >USB version of a Sidewinder you should have got a CD with it with the v4 >drivers. > >I did, but fool that I am .... forgot! So much for the sheer power of >the human brain eh?

Hi Mick, I have the USB-version, but I have bought the wheel secondhanded and didn't get the CD. I would appreciate it if someone would email me the drivers (if it's less than 10MBs in size) or point me to a site where I can download it. TIA -- /Jesper Rasmussen OBS: Remove -NOWAY- before replying!

On Tue, 15 May 2001 07:19:50 +0200, Jesper Rasmussen <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have the USB-version, but I have bought the wheel secondhanded and >didn't get the CD. I would appreciate it if someone would email me the >drivers (if it's less than 10MBs in size) or point me to a site where >I can download it. > >TIA Sorry, but it's over 20mb and if I was to do that then I would be breaking the MS license agreement too. Contact the person you bought it from and ask where the driver cdrom is. If you can't contact him/her then you will have to contact MS. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Mon, 14 May 2001 19:15:55 +0200, Jesper Rasmussen <[email hidden]> wrote: >As you already guessed I haven't got the CD (bought my wheel >secondhanded). Is there really no site where I can download the >software? Or would you (or someone else) email it directly to me (if >it's less than 10MBs in size)? I've got the drivers now (thanks Matti ;o) ) so please disregard the request above. -- /Jesper Rasmussen OBS: Remove -NOWAY- before replying!

On Tue, 15 May 2001 07:19:50 +0200, Jesper Rasmussen <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hi Mick, > >I have the USB-version, but I have bought the wheel secondhanded and >didn't get the CD. I would appreciate it if someone would email me the >drivers (if it's less than 10MBs in size) or point me to a site where >I can download it. I've got the drivers now (thanks Matti ;o) ) so please disregard the request above. -- /Jesper Rasmussen OBS: Remove -NOWAY- before replying!