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USB Vs. Game Port Wheel ???

11 posts by 10 people · 07 May 2001 02:13 UTC - 08 May 2001 16:43 UTC

Kyle Clements 07 May 2001 02:13 UTC#186780
Is there any advantage of a USB connection for a driving wheel? Or is a game port better? any additional load on the CPU when going game port or USB? Im currently comparing and hammering out all the different questions i have before buying a new wheel. I like the AVB so far.
In my opinion....there's no "choice" in the matter....USB is far superior to the soundcards' gameport. There's literally too many reasons to list them all in this reply "post." And, there's far more involved with a USB controller than just the "port." Primarily, USB controllers are fully digital...and that's a major step up over analogue controllers....regardless of which port is used. Go with the USB......now the question is.....which controller to buy? Tom
Well I'm having a hell of a time getting my USB wheel to reconnect after re-installing win98se. I got the latest LWFF drivers...but the updated Windows installer, just doesn't finish it's task. so I manually installed the drivers using winzip and the device manager. I did this several months ago, with no problem. But NOW...the wheel won't show as connected. grrrr. dave henrie "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lopJ6.42005$[email hidden]... > In my opinion....there's no "choice" in the matter....USB is far superiorto > the soundcards' gameport. There's literally too many reasons to list them > all in this reply "post." And, there's far more involved with a USB > controller than just the "port." Primarily, USB controllers are fully > digital...and that's a major step up over analoguecontrollers....regardless > of which port is used. Go with the USB......now the question is.....which > controller to buy? > > Tom > >
I don't know of any wheel that is fully digital. I know the LWFF does communicate to the computer via USB (or serial) in a digital form, but it still determines the position of the wheel and pedals via potentiometers. If those pots are going bad the software could think the wheel isn't connected properly. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:N6qJ6.122927$[email hidden]... > Well I'm having a hell of a time getting my USB wheel to reconnect after > re-installing win98se. I got the latest LWFF drivers...but the updated > Windows installer, just doesn't finish it's task. so I manually installed > the drivers using winzip and the device manager. I did this severalmonths > ago, with no problem. But NOW...the wheel won't show as connected. grrrr. > dave henrie > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:lopJ6.42005$[email hidden]... > > In my opinion....there's no "choice" in the matter....USB is farsuperior > to > > the soundcards' gameport. There's literally too many reasons to listthem > > all in this reply "post." And, there's far more involved with a USB > > controller than just the "port." Primarily, USB controllers are fully > > digital...and that's a major step up over analogue > controllers....regardless > > of which port is used. Go with the USB......now the questionis.....which
Quoted text (8 lines)> > controller to buy? > > > > Tom > > > > > > >
I'm also having probs with getting my Sidewinder non-FF wheel to show up in gaming options... it happens if Win98 freezes and I have to do power off / power on (no reset switch on the Compaq...). After that the only way to get it connected is to plug it to another computer and then back to the Compaq... sometimes drivers and Sidewinder software has to be reinstalled. Very annoying and time consuming... I have a multiboot system, and now I use Win2000 for gaming when ever it is possible... it doesn't freeze like Win98 ;) I chose USB 'cause the Compaq doesn't even have a gameport (integrated soundcard). USB does infact take some CPU time... atleast in FPS games there can be some difference in performance between USB and PS/2 mice. Don't know if this applies to game controllers, maybe gameport devices also use the same amount of CPU... - Igor -
Was the wheel disconnected from your PC when you originally installed the drivers? IIRC, you should only plug the wheel in after the drivers are installed. Dave Henrie wrote:
Quoted text (22 lines)> > Well I'm having a hell of a time getting my USB wheel to reconnect after > re-installing win98se. I got the latest LWFF drivers...but the updated > Windows installer, just doesn't finish it's task. so I manually installed > the drivers using winzip and the device manager. I did this several months > ago, with no problem. But NOW...the wheel won't show as connected. grrrr. > dave henrie > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:lopJ6.42005$[email hidden]... > > In my opinion....there's no "choice" in the matter....USB is far superior > to > > the soundcards' gameport. There's literally too many reasons to list them > > all in this reply "post." And, there's far more involved with a USB > > controller than just the "port." Primarily, USB controllers are fully > > digital...and that's a major step up over analogue > controllers....regardless > > of which port is used. Go with the USB......now the question is.....which > > controller to buy? > > > > Tom > > > >
VIA Chipset ? Did you reinstall the VIA USB FilterDriver V1.08 ? ASUS Motherboard? Many ASUS Motherboards are having USB problems with the latest BIOS Updates. The A7V133 is especially bad after rev 1002a, (it's up to 1004 now) and most of us with USB requirements have had to drop back down to 1002a for reliable USB use. Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:N6qJ6.122927$[email hidden]... > Well I'm having a hell of a time getting my USB wheel to reconnect after > re-installing win98se. I got the latest LWFF drivers...but the updated > Windows installer, just doesn't finish it's task. so I manually installed > the drivers using winzip and the device manager. I did this severalmonths > ago, with no problem. But NOW...the wheel won't show as connected. grrrr. > dave henrie > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:lopJ6.42005$[email hidden]... > > In my opinion....there's no "choice" in the matter....USB is farsuperior > to > > the soundcards' gameport. There's literally too many reasons to listthem > > all in this reply "post." And, there's far more involved with a USB > > controller than just the "port." Primarily, USB controllers are fully > > digital...and that's a major step up over analogue > controllers....regardless > > of which port is used. Go with the USB......now the questionis.....which
Quoted text (7 lines)> > controller to buy? > > > > Tom > > > > > >
Is this the Tom Pabst from the Tom's hardware site? Just curious, as I read that site quite a bit... "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lopJ6.42005$[email hidden]... > In my opinion....there's no "choice" in the matter....USB is far superiorto > the soundcards' gameport. There's literally too many reasons to list them > all in this reply "post." And, there's far more involved with a USB > controller than just the "port." Primarily, USB controllers are fully > digital...and that's a major step up over analoguecontrollers....regardless > of which port is used. Go with the USB......now the question is.....which > controller to buy? > > Tom > >
"Pierre Robitaille" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Was the wheel disconnected from your PC when you originally > installed the drivers? IIRC, you should only plug the wheel > in after the drivers are installed. MS Sidewinder's manual says that first plug it in, and then install the drivers... Isn't that the way USB should work? You plug it in and Windows installs / asks for drivers... - Igor -
Depends on what mood Windows Plug and Play is in. If it detects the device at all it will usually try to identify and install it from a pool drivers and information it already has. If that pre-existing pool of information is wrong Windows may decide that your brand new "X" is really a "Z" and proceed to install the wrong drivers and registry entries. These wrong drivers may screw things for your new device even after you install the correct drivers. This is what is happening when you see some folks complain of, for example, going from a 3DFX video card to an NVidia card but the new card does not work properly because of some small, obscure, deeply hidden vestige of the old 3DFX driver. I have a Saitek X36 USB. Drivers for this MUST be installed before it is plugged in or that screwing mentioned above will happen. After that the X36 will never work until you go through the procedure outlined in the instructions to dig out all the wrong stuff Plug and Play installed. "Jussi 'Igor' Koukku" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:leNJ6.10886$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> "Pierre Robitaille" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Was the wheel disconnected from your PC when you originally > > installed the drivers? IIRC, you should only plug the wheel > > in after the drivers are installed. > > MS Sidewinder's manual says that first plug it in, and then install the > drivers... Isn't that the way USB should work? You plug it in and Windows > installs / asks for drivers... > > - Igor - > >

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