OT: CART vs the IRL vs Nascar

First practice results at Texas are in, I went back and compared the Qualifying times of Last year's IRL race with the Nascar Qualifying record and set those against the Cart Champcar speeds. ( all speeds rounded off because I hate dots...) :> Nascar fastest Q speed. 192 mph IRL Pole last year 215 mph CART practice speeds 233mph...two hundred and thirty three FREAKIN' miles an hour! dave henrie

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:42:34 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> First practice results at Texas are in, I went back and compared the >Qualifying times of Last year's IRL race with the Nascar Qualifying record >and set those against the Cart Champcar speeds. >( all speeds rounded off because I hate dots...) :> > >Nascar fastest Q speed. 192 mph >IRL Pole last year 215 mph >CART practice speeds 233mph...two hundred and thirty three FREAKIN' miles >an hour! >dave henrie

They will probably get to 236 or naybe even 237 tomorrow. It's just first day of practice!

Woohoo I'm gonna be there sunday, under the grandstands in turn 1. Woohoo!!! "ra300z" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:42:34 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > First practice results at Texas are in, I went back and compared the > >Qualifying times of Last year's IRL race with the Nascar Qualifyingrecord > >and set those against the Cart Champcar speeds. > >( all speeds rounded off because I hate dots...) :> > > > >Nascar fastest Q speed. 192 mph > >IRL Pole last year 215 mph > >CART practice speeds 233mph...two hundred and thirty three FREAKIN'miles > >an hour! > >dave henrie > > They will probably get to 236 or naybe even 237 tomorrow. It's just > first day of practice!

Reminds me of that kind simulation in ICR2. I think it rocked for the time! I guess it didn't have Texas but going down the straights at Michigan was pretty cool. "DJR17" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:axpG6.177118$[email hidden]... > Woohoo I'm gonna be there sunday, under the grandstands in turn 1.Woohoo!!! > "ra300z" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:42:34 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > > First practice results at Texas are in, I went back and comparedthe

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> > >Qualifying times of Last year's IRL race with the Nascar Qualifying > record > > >and set those against the Cart Champcar speeds. > > >( all speeds rounded off because I hate dots...) :> > > > > > >Nascar fastest Q speed. 192 mph > > >IRL Pole last year 215 mph > > >CART practice speeds 233mph...two hundred and thirty three FREAKIN' > miles > > >an hour! > > >dave henrie > > > > They will probably get to 236 or naybe even 237 tomorrow. It's just > > first day of practice! > > >

I seem to remember tweeking the stock block Buicks in the original Papy sim, the Indy 500 the simulation. I 'think' the speeds we got were 240mph for the lap average. Of course we all know only Al Unser Sr. could get one of those early stock-blocks to finish...:) dave henrie "JoeZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:cmqG6.94$[email hidden]... > Reminds me of that kind simulation in ICR2. I think it rocked for thetime! > I guess it didn't have Texas but going down the straights at Michigan > was pretty cool. >

Bill Elliott turned a 212.8 mph at Talladega back in '87 (before restrictor plates). Just a few mph off of a IRL car from today ...... makes one wonder what they can do now if left unrestricted

In article <XxqG6.69872$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > > I seem to remember tweeking the stock block Buicks in the original Papy >sim, the Indy 500 the simulation. I 'think' the speeds we got were 240mph >for the lap average. Of course we all know >only Al Unser Sr. could get one of those early stock-blocks to finish...:) I never could, but I could do 240+ laps in a race setup. Of course, I'd always end up in a wreck before the end. In a slower, saner setup I was able to finish occasionally. -Tim

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:55:30 -0500, "JoeZ" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Reminds me of that kind simulation in ICR2. I think it rocked for the time! >I guess it didn't have Texas but going down the straights at Michigan >was pretty cool. The only thing I remember about ICR2 is that after 3 or 4 laps on an oval, my back end would just come out. No matter what I did to the setup. I even tightened up the front and took all the wing out of the front. No matter what I did I still couldn't put more than a handful of laps together on ovals.

On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:42:20 GMT, [email hidden] (The Enigmatic One) wrote:

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>In article <XxqG6.69872$[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... >> >> >> I seem to remember tweeking the stock block Buicks in the original Papy >>sim, the Indy 500 the simulation. I 'think' the speeds we got were 240mph >>for the lap average. Of course we all know >>only Al Unser Sr. could get one of those early stock-blocks to finish...:) > > I never could, but I could do 240+ laps in a race setup. > > Of course, I'd always end up in a wreck before the end. > > In a slower, saner setup I was able to finish occasionally. > > -Tim

My memories of that game were starting dead last and seeing how many positions I could make up on lap1 . If I remember correctly, I could get up to 11th or 12th on lap 1 from 33. My best lap was a 242 or so in the Buick. BTW Al Unser Sr didn't drive an early stock block. Those go back to 1983. The Buick that Al Unser Sr drove to 3rd was in 1992 with an enormous amount of attrition. Was 1997 the last year of the Buick?

The rear-end swapping in ICR2 was a weight transfer bug. felt like your tires suddenly went flat. they fixed that witha patch.. Yes Al didn't run the EARLIEST Buicks...but he was the first guy to get one to finish on the podium.. even led late in the race as I recall(probably due to pitstop shuffling) dave henrie "ra300z" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:42:20 GMT, [email hidden] (The Enigmatic > One) wrote: > > >In article <XxqG6.69872$[email hidden]>, > >[email hidden] says... > >> > >> > >> I seem to remember tweeking the stock block Buicks in the original

Papy > >>sim, the Indy 500 the simulation. I 'think' the speeds we got were240mph > >>for the lap average. Of course we all know > >>only Al Unser Sr. could get one of those early stock-blocks tofinish...:)

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> > > > I never could, but I could do 240+ laps in a race setup. > > > > Of course, I'd always end up in a wreck before the end. > > > > In a slower, saner setup I was able to finish occasionally. > > > > -Tim > > > My memories of that game were starting dead last and seeing how many > positions I could make up on lap1 . If I remember correctly, I could > get up to 11th or 12th on lap 1 from 33. My best lap was a 242 or so > in the Buick. > > BTW Al Unser Sr didn't drive an early stock block. Those go back to > 1983. The Buick that Al Unser Sr drove to 3rd was in 1992 with an > enormous amount of attrition. Was 1997 the last year of the Buick?

>Bill Elliott turned a 212.8 mph at Talladega back in '87 (before restrictor >plates). Just a few mph off >of a IRL car from today ...... makes one wonder what they can do now if left >unrestricted Yea, but do you know how fast an IRL car would go at Talladega? Remember, NASCARs lift at Texas, Atlanta, so on...IRL cars don't. At Talldega, I'd be willing to bet 240/250 would be easy...and a CART might be capable of 270! - Alan

>"Alan Conceicao" <[email hidden]> wrote > Yea, but do you know how fast an IRL car would go at Talladega? IIRC I did a 254mph lap in IndyCar Racing 2 at Talladega. I doubt IRL would go faster then 250, with their limited horsepower. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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>>"Alan Conceicao" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Yea, but do you know how fast an IRL car would go at Talladega? > > >IIRC I did a 254mph lap in IndyCar Racing 2 at Talladega. I doubt IRL would >go faster then 250, with their limited horsepower. > >

I was in the same territory at wht was a much slower Talladega w/CART/IC2. And that was a physics model from 5-6 years ago! I agree that IRL might beat 245 or so...there only so much you can do withn naturally aspirated engines. - Alan

>I was in the same territory at wht was a much slower Talladega w/CART/IC2. >And >that was a physics model from 5-6 years ago! > Perhaps I should explain "slower"....I meant that the dogleg carved off more speed than gained, like the Talladega in N3/N4. - Alan

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Alan Conceicao) writes:

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>>Bill Elliott turned a 212.8 mph at Talladega back in '87 (before restrictor >>plates). Just a few mph off >>of a IRL car from today ...... makes one wonder what they can do now if left >>unrestricted > >Yea, but do you know how fast an IRL car would go at Talladega? Remember, >NASCARs lift at Texas, Atlanta, so on...IRL cars don't. At Talldega, I'd be >willing to bet 240/250 would be easy...and a CART might be capable of 270! >

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