GPL steering twitch with FF

I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I hold the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the Windows FF controller properties, with no success. I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows 2000. It does it on both machines. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. --Jeff

"Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9bclbn$a3r$[email hidden]... : I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows : 2000. It does it on both machines. : Same here, two totally different machines, LWFF USB. I'll get it in GP3 and F12K as well. The only common thing between my two machines is the SBLive sound card. I've disabled the gameport but it still happens. FWIW, I used to see it with a different wheel too, so it's not the LWFF. I've just adjusted my FF settings and live with it now. [ Joy ] allow_force_feedback = 1 ; Use FF if device has it force_feedback_damping = 40.000000 ; force feedback damping coefficient force_feedback_latency = 0.00 ; force feedback latency (secs) max_steering_torque = 400.000000 ; steering torque in N*in giving max device force SB.

On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:18:48 -0400, "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch >to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the >very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just >one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve >(a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I hold >the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the >Windows FF controller properties, with no success. >

Same story here :-( I also have the Wingman FF GP and have the same problems. Tried different drivers for the wheel, the chipset, the videocard etc. etc. Tried removing all addoncards except the videocard (Asus V7100 Geforce 2MX). Tried another FF GP. Tried reinstalling everything including Windows. Nothing helped, but I seems to me (I'm not sure) that the problem was worse with my old Asus A7Pro mobo - I now have a A7V and the two boards are basicly the same, but my A7V is of a newer revision.

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>I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows >2000. It does it on both machines. > >Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > >--Jeff >

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On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:18:48 -0400, "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch >to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the >very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just >one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve >(a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I hold >the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the >Windows FF controller properties, with no success. >

Same story here :-( I also have the Wingman FF GP and have the same problems. Tried different drivers for the wheel, the chipset, the videocard etc. etc. Tried removing all addoncards except the videocard (Asus V7100 Geforce 2MX). Tried another FF GP. Tried reinstalling everything including Windows. Nothing helped, but I seems to me (I'm not sure) that the problem was worse with my old Asus A7Pro mobo - I now have a A7V and the two boards are basicly the same, but my A7V is of a newer revision.

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>I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows >2000. It does it on both machines. > >Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > >--Jeff >

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same here!! LWFF, twitch! Jeffrey Rowe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9bclbn$a3r$[email hidden]... > I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch > to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the > very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just > one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve > (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady Ihold

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> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the > Windows FF controller properties, with no success. > > I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows > 2000. It does it on both machines. > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > --Jeff > >

hey guys, could anyone of you send me their core.ini so i can get my MS FF working.:-) please Ian

Set the camber for right and left front wheels as close together as possible and try it. Twitch should go away. Sid. "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9bclbn$a3r$[email hidden]... > I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch > to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the > very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just > one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve > (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady Ihold

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> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the > Windows FF controller properties, with no success. > > I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows > 2000. It does it on both machines. > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > --Jeff > >

Are you guys with this problem using USB or serial port? Marc. "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9bclbn$a3r$[email hidden]... > I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch > to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the > very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just > one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve > (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady Ihold

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> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the > Windows FF controller properties, with no success. > > I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows > 2000. It does it on both machines. > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > --Jeff > >

I have this with an MSFF (joystick port) under Win 2K - is it my SB LIve Plat?!?! Doug "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9bclbn$a3r$[email hidden]... > I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch > to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the > very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just > one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve > (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady Ihold

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> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the > Windows FF controller properties, with no success. > > I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows > 2000. It does it on both machines. > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > --Jeff > >

USB "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5QHC6.593754$[email hidden]...

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> Are you guys with this problem using USB or serial port? > > Marc. > > "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9bclbn$a3r$[email hidden]... > > I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will

twitch > > to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the > > very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick,just > > one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause aswerve > > (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I > hold > > the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini andthe

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> > Windows FF controller properties, with no success. > > > > I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows > > 2000. It does it on both machines. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > > > --Jeff > > > > > >

As somebody already mentioned, it could be the camber setting. On the other hand your steering pot could be worn/damaged. JensSchumi On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:18:48 -0400, "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch >to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the<snip> --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -10.1 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

Not with the optical stuf inside my MSFF - and I get this. I also get it banging me down a gear, or looking left or right quickly Doug "JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> As somebody already mentioned, it could be the camber setting. > > On the other hand your steering pot could be worn/damaged. > > JensSchumi > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:18:48 -0400, "Jeffrey Rowe"

<[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel willtwitch

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> >to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the > <snip> > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ > > GPLRank: -10.1 > Monsters of GPL: sub 200

have you check to se if poll with interrupts is checked if it is uncheck it see if that helps i had a twitch like. that this help me .it may not help you but is worth a try On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:35:29 GMT, "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Are you guys with this problem using USB or serial port? > >Marc. > >"Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:9bclbn$a3r$[email hidden]... >> I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch >> to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the >> very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just >> one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve >> (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I >hold >> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the >> Windows FF controller properties, with no success. >> >> I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows >> 2000. It does it on both machines. >> >> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. >> >> --Jeff >> >> >

Hi. I got this too when I first got my LWFF. I changed the force_feedback_damping = 1200.000000 (default value) on core.ini to nearly 0, and it went away. Try it and see. DF Jeffrey Rowe wrote:

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> I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will twitch > to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens at the > very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick, just > one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause a swerve > (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I hold > the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini and the > Windows FF controller properties, with no success. > > I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows > 2000. It does it on both machines. > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > > --Jeff

> have you check to se if poll with interrupts is checked if it is Where do I check that? <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > > have you check to se if poll with interrupts is checked if it is > uncheck it see if that helps i had a twitch like. that this help me > .it may not help you but is worth a try > > > > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:35:29 GMT, "Marc Collins" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Are you guys with this problem using USB or serial port? > > > >Marc. > > > >"Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:9bclbn$a3r$[email hidden]... > >> I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. The steering wheel will

twitch > >> to the left or right every now and then. It almost always happens atthe > >> very end of the Glen's front straight. The twitch is lightning quick,just > >> one or two frames in the replay. But it's violent enough to cause aswerve > >> (a bad thing at the end of that straight). Doesn't matter how steady I > >hold > >> the wheel. I've tinkered with most of the FF settings in core.ini andthe

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> >> Windows FF controller properties, with no success. > >> > >> I have two machines: a P4 with Windows Me and a dual P3 running Windows > >> 2000. It does it on both machines. > >> > >> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. > >> > >> --Jeff > >> > >> > > >

Am Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:18:48 -0400 schrieb "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]>: >I have a Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP. me too >The steering wheel will twitch to the left or right every now and then. I tried to fing out a regularity - no chance... I think the cause of the trouble is to find in USB polling: For a part of a second the wheel is away an then its suddenly back again. The LWFF GP interprets this as a hard input (hard right/hard left steering) of the user an let it feel you. The twitch is happening too w/o FF enabled !!! Perhaps it is possible to solve the problem using an PCI USB card instead onboard USB, who knows !?!? If I find out more, i will tell you... Bye Schubsi