N4 Ratings..anyone really know

I've gotten mixed responses to this in the past so please pardon the repeat. Can anyone tell me how to upate ratings for the driver in N4? Some have said it is automatic...others recommend going to a website (that I can't find by the way), others say use "update me" whatever the hell that is. I have raced in approx 15 "rated" pick up races, 2 wins, but no change to ratings. Still all 0's. Is this normal or am I just a pathetic driver :) Any help appreciated, Dan

Little is known about the scoring system. Papyrus will not document it, which is horseshit. But, this much is sure. You have to run in races that have the scoring enabled. Look for the 0-10 number, which is what most use. It shows the range of skill levels that can join that race. If it just has a "-" in that column, or is empty, then running that race will not count towards your skill ranking at all. -Larry "Dixiemandan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've gotten mixed responses to this in the past so please pardon therepeat. > Can anyone tell me how to upate ratings for the driver in N4? Some havesaid it > is automatic...others recommend going to a website (that I can't find bythe > way), others say use "update me" whatever the hell that is. I have racedin > approx 15 "rated" pick up races, 2 wins, but no change to ratings. Stillall > 0's. Is this normal or am I just a pathetic driver :) Any helpappreciated, > Dan

I knew if I opened my mouth wide enough my foot would fit. Just after posting I ran N4 online and now have rating. Patience patience

I will tell you what I think. We are rated from 1-10. There is an average number required to move up in rating. You get a score each time you race. You could move up a rating in just one race if say you win it and there was30 cars in it. Your race scores will be averaged to together until you either go up a rating or down. Only the last 10 races average. The score you get in the race depends on how many cars and your finishing position. You only get points compared to other drivers within 2 ratings of you. You will not get points for beating a rating 6 driver if you are only a 1, and vice versa. So, if you finish 5th out of 15, you would subtract the points of the cars ahead of you from the points you receive from being ahead of the others 10 cars. But only cars within 2 ratings will effect your score. In your case if you are racing race after race and finishing mid pack or farther back you will never get a rating. The cars ahead will always negate the cars behind. When I race I look at how many have entered, If there are 28 in race, then I know I have to finish at least14th or better to even possibly get a positive score. -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] "Dixiemandan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I've gotten mixed responses to this in the past so please pardon the repeat. > Can anyone tell me how to upate ratings for the driver in N4? Some have said it > is automatic...others recommend going to a website (that I can't find by the > way), others say use "update me" whatever the hell that is. I have raced in > approx 15 "rated" pick up races, 2 wins, but no change to ratings. Still all > 0's. Is this normal or am I just a pathetic driver :) Any help appreciated, > Dan

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> I've gotten mixed responses to this in the past so please pardon the repeat. > Can anyone tell me how to upate ratings for the driver in N4? Some have said it > is automatic...others recommend going to a website (that I can't find by the > way), others say use "update me" whatever the hell that is. I have raced in > approx 15 "rated" pick up races, 2 wins, but no change to ratings. Still all > 0's. Is this normal or am I just a pathetic driver :) Any help appreciated, > Dan >

I don't know the precise calaulctaions they use, but the deal is this: 1) The races have to be setup with skill limits, or it won't count towards your skill level. It'll usually say "0-10" in the skill column. 2) The lower your skill, the easier it is to gain skill points, because... 3) If you finish ahead of someone with a higher skill rating, your skill "factor" is higher than if you were to beat someone with a lower skill rating. If you finish ahead of a BUNCH of folks with higher or equal skill, the chances are pretty good that you'll move up a notch after that race, especially if you place in the top 5 or 10. 4) I think I've heard that the skill rating system won't kick in for races with fewer than 10 people in the race. 5) I believe that it may be harder/impossible to get a skill increase if you race in arcade races as wll, but I'm not sure. The key to increasing your skill in pickup races is this - compete in big-field events (20+ cars already joined) that have skill limits posted, and don't qualify (so that you start in the back). At this point, you stand a pretty good chance of placing in the top 10 because a lot of people who get wrecked out on lap one will usually quit. Do your best to avoid the accidents and intentional wreckers, and you'll stand a good chance of increasing your skill (or at least taking a big step towards doing so. The moment of most imminent danger for a back-marker at the start of an online pickup race is lap one/turn one. If you can make it through unscathed, you should stand a good chance of finishing well. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity" http://www.paddedwall.org/john DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends http://www.paddedwall.org/demons DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 (in development) http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2 Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Wow, both very interesting theories and very informative. Thanks for the info, I plan to try a few things. Thanks again, Dan

Dixiemandan wrote ... > I've gotten mixed responses to this in the past so please pardon therepeat. > Can anyone tell me how to upate ratings for the driver in N4? Some havesaid it > is automatic...others recommend going to a website (that I can't find bythe > way), others say use "update me" whatever the hell that is. One of the things that can lead to mixed responses is that we could be talking about 2 different things when we talk about "driver ratings". You were clearly talking about your own on-line ranking on the Sierra servers. It sounds like some of the people who responded to you were talking about the "driver ratings" built into the computer cars that cause Dale Jarrett's car to average better results than Kenny Wallace's. There are websites that can give you numbers to put in for each of the cars to simulate last year's (or this year's) results.

>One of the things that can lead to mixed responses is that we could be >talking about 2 different things when we talk about "driver ratings" Absolutley right. I should have been clearer about online rankings and not offline driver info. Thanks for the input, Dan