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N4 regular wheel or FF wheels

7 posts by 5 people · 13 Mar 2001 13:42 UTC - 15 Mar 2001 00:51 UTC

Rob 13 Mar 2001 13:42 UTC#196298
I have a Thrustmaster Pro Digital racing wheel now. It is not the second edition it is the original digital wheel. It works good with my games. But I was thing of getting rid of it and moving to a FF wheel. Will the experience be a lot better. If so which would you guys suggest. The Microsoft FF wheel, or the Saitek FF wheel. Those are the two I have been looking at. The Microsoft wheel goes for $129. The Saitek is on clearance for $79.50. Is there much difference between these two. Thanks for the help. Rob
Larry 13 Mar 2001 17:55 UTC↳ reply to Rob#196223
Forget the Saitek. I've never heard a good word about it. Very cheaply made. The MSFFW is good hardware. Best pedals in the business. However, the SideWinder software is frustrating, and it's pretty much a "Take it or leave it" release. MS is not known for updating this software. Ever. Win2K operation is Dicey. If you get a MSFFW, do NOT get the Gameport version. Make sure you get the USB version. Even if you find a Gameport version cheap, skip it. The SideWinder software it comes with is not, and never will be, Win2K compatible. The version that comes with the USB model is _barely_ compatible, sometimes. -Larry "Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hspr6.300$[email hidden]... > I have a Thrustmaster Pro Digital racing wheel now. It is not the second > edition it is the original digital wheel. It works good with my games. ButI > was thing of getting rid of it and moving to a FF wheel. Will theexperience > be a lot better. > > If so which would you guys suggest. The Microsoft FF wheel, or the SaitekFF
Quoted text (10 lines)> wheel. Those are the two I have been looking at. The Microsoft wheel goes > for $129. The Saitek is on clearance for $79.50. > > Is there much difference between these two. > > Thanks for the help. > > Rob > >
Ian P 13 Mar 2001 18:58 UTC↳ reply to Larry#196234
Why not the gameport version? The USB version is considerably more CPU hungry than the gameport version, I've tried both and kept my old gameport wheel. I missed the beginning of this thread so if it's because he's running win 2000 and it's incompatible with the gameport version thats a good reason ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Catr6.99124$[email hidden]... > If you get a MSFFW, do NOT get the Gameport version. Make sure you get the > USB version. Even if you find a Gameport version cheap, skip it. The > SideWinder software it comes with is not, and never will be, Win2K > compatible. > > The version that comes with the USB model is _barely_ compatible, sometimes. > > -Larry
Larry 13 Mar 2001 19:08 UTC↳ reply to Ian P#196244
If you ever intend to do anything under Win2K, you MUST avoid the Gameport version. The only driver that works, at all (sometimes), is the built-in SideWinder mini-driver, and you loose almost all features of the hardware when you do use it. The 3.02 software that ships with the Gameport version will not install at all under Win2K, and since it hasn't been updated in, oh, 2 years or so it's apparant that MS has no intention of doing so. Hell, they won't even update the newer 4.0 software for the USB models! I'm not sure I agree that the USB version uses more cycles thant the gameport version. I have both, and it doesn't feel that way to me. You could be right, it just doesn't feel that way. -Larry "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:C5ur6.1981$Q7.57399@stones... > Why not the gameport version? The USB version is considerably more CPU > hungry than the gameport version, I've tried both and kept my old gameport > wheel. I missed the beginning of this thread so if it's because he'srunning > win 2000 and it's incompatible with the gameport version thats a goodreason
Quoted text (23 lines)> ;) > > -- > Ian P > <email invalid due to spam> > > > Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Catr6.99124$[email hidden]... > > > If you get a MSFFW, do NOT get the Gameport version. Make sure you get > the > > USB version. Even if you find a Gameport version cheap, skip it. The > > SideWinder software it comes with is not, and never will be, Win2K > > compatible. > > > > The version that comes with the USB model is _barely_ compatible, > sometimes. > > > > -Larry > > >
Ian P 13 Mar 2001 21:17 UTC↳ reply to Larry#196274
I'm considering getting win 2000, but it won't affect my gaming at all, it will be installed on my other PC which is a work machine ;) I tried the MSFF wheels on my older PC P2 333, 128MB RAM, Voodoo3 3000 running win 98se. In GPL with the gameport version I maintained a constant 36fps but with the USB version it dropped to about 30 at certain points on the track. With a faster system the difference may be negligible or even un noticable. I took the USB wheel back before upgrading to my current Athlon so can't compare them on this machine. Just another question, will the version 4.0 software that works with Win 2000 work with the gameport wheel ? -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:teur6.99156$[email hidden]... > If you ever intend to do anything under Win2K, you MUST avoid the Gameport > version. > > The only driver that works, at all (sometimes), is the built-in SideWinder > mini-driver, and you loose almost all features of the hardware when you do > use it. > > The 3.02 software that ships with the Gameport version will not install at > all under Win2K, and since it hasn't been updated in, oh, 2 years or so it's > apparant that MS has no intention of doing so. > > Hell, they won't even update the newer 4.0 software for the USB models! > > I'm not sure I agree that the USB version uses more cycles thant the > gameport version. I have both, and it doesn't feel that way to me. You > could be right, it just doesn't feel that way. > > -Larry >
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:17:34 -0000, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)>I'm considering getting win 2000, but it won't affect my gaming at all, it >will be installed on my other PC which is a work machine ;) >I tried the MSFF wheels on my older PC P2 333, 128MB RAM, Voodoo3 3000 >running win 98se. In GPL with the gameport version I maintained a constant >36fps but with the USB version it dropped to about 30 at certain points on >the track. With a faster system the difference may be negligible or even un >noticable. I took the USB wheel back before upgrading to my current Athlon >so can't compare them on this machine. > >Just another question, will the version 4.0 software that works with Win >2000 work with the gameport wheel ?
Any USB device is a system bus hog! That is why I try to limit USB use. I have a Logitech FF GP wheel and it is great (the pedals do suck a bit but the wheel is hot). RB
The very besty wheel out there imo is the Act Labs Force RS. I ve compared it to the micrisoft and the new and old logitech and its is the strongest force and the most dynamic feel by far! :) "Razorback" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:17:34 -0000, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I'm considering getting win 2000, but it won't affect my gaming at all,it > >will be installed on my other PC which is a work machine ;) > >I tried the MSFF wheels on my older PC P2 333, 128MB RAM, Voodoo3 3000 > >running win 98se. In GPL with the gameport version I maintained aconstant > >36fps but with the USB version it dropped to about 30 at certain pointson > >the track. With a faster system the difference may be negligible or evenun > >noticable. I took the USB wheel back before upgrading to my currentAthlon
Quoted text (12 lines)> >so can't compare them on this machine. > > > >Just another question, will the version 4.0 software that works with Win > >2000 work with the gameport wheel ? > > Any USB device is a system bus hog! > > That is why I try to limit USB use. I have a Logitech FF GP wheel and > it is great (the pedals do suck a bit but the wheel is hot). > > RB >

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