Death to RSC.

There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser. An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also contact if the problem persists. We apologise for any inconvenience. ---------------- I appreciate what they are doing, but I really wish everyone would come (back) to R.A.S. (And please don't take the thread header to heart. Although I have been on usenet and web forums long enough to know some Wonk is going to reply to the header and header alone. Screw you, non message reading replier!) MRSisson -- LOAD "GPL",8 SEARCHING FOR GPL LOADING READY. RUN

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> > I appreciate what they are doing, but I really wish everyone would come > (back) to R.A.S. > > (And please don't take the thread header to heart. Although I have been > on usenet and web forums long enough to know some Wonk is going to reply > to the header and header alone. Screw you, non message reading replier!) > > > MRSisson

I agree about people coming back to R.A.S. I think the success of web based forums is due to people not knowing how to set up a news reader and also being wowed by the look of web based forum (and those horrible waste of space aviators or whatever they are called.) It is to bad that they don't realize the extreme inefficiency of web based forums. I'll continue to use RSC (when they are available) because for now that is where the good discussion are. Russell

ras always has been and always will be the best discussion place for sims. Idiots get crucified and people say it how it is and can be as enthusiastic, emotional and harsh as they feel appropriate without fear of being moderated by old women. The only survivors here, as in the wild, are the smart and the strong - just as it should be. RAS - moderated by nature :) "Michael Sisson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.1d4b5bca2d1efdef989681@nntp...

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> There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. > Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser. > > An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also > contact if the problem persists. > > We apologise for any inconvenience. > > > ---------------- > > > I appreciate what they are doing, but I really wish everyone would come > (back) to R.A.S. > > (And please don't take the thread header to heart. Although I have been > on usenet and web forums long enough to know some Wonk is going to reply > to the header and header alone. Screw you, non message reading replier!) > > > MRSisson > -- > LOAD "GPL",8 > > SEARCHING FOR GPL > LOADING > READY. > RUN

Byron Forbes wrote: > RAS - moderated by nature :) Moderation of the voluntarily run sim racing forums seems to becoming an ever increasing nightmare with threats of these enthusiast run organisations suing each other as parts of the sim community seem hell bent on self destruction. Sure it is easy for me to say as I am not one of those being "wronged" in print but it does seem a worrying trend. As it continues to fragment into huddled groups RAS is likely to be the only group for the entire sim racing community.

Just for the sake of discussion, I'm going to somewhat disagree. I think there are some real advantages to RSC (when it's not down). First of all my ISP has always been terrible about picking up messages and expiring them very quickly. So, it was never all that useful for research or looking back. The introduction of deja helped but then I was back on the web. Having all of the separate forums on RSC I think is much more useful than one big newsgroup for all sims. One of the big issues I've always had with RAS in it's heyday (say around the peek of GPL) was that topics quickly got off topic or people chimed in with useless comments. Especially with the absolute dominance and superiority complex of GPL users, topics about other games quickly turned into how that particular game wasn't 'sim' enough and shouldn't even be discussed. So I think it's great there's a place where without interference people can discuss GTR, RBR, and also TOCA and Flatout. just some thoughts Tim "Michael Sisson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:MPG.1d4b5bca2d1efdef989681@nntp...

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> There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. > Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser. > > An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also > contact if the problem persists. > > We apologise for any inconvenience. > > > ---------------- > > > I appreciate what they are doing, but I really wish everyone would come > (back) to R.A.S. > > (And please don't take the thread header to heart. Although I have been > on usenet and web forums long enough to know some Wonk is going to reply > to the header and header alone. Screw you, non message reading replier!) > > > MRSisson > -- > LOAD "GPL",8 > > SEARCHING FOR GPL > LOADING > READY. > RUN

[email hidden] (R Keating) wrote: > I think the success of web based forums is due to people > not knowing how to set up a news reader No, it's because many people can surf the web at work/school but not read newsgroups. IMO anyway :-) Andrew McP

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> > ras always has been and always will be the best discussion place for sims. > Idiots get crucified and people say it how it is and can be as enthusiastic, > emotional and harsh as they feel appropriate without fear of being moderated > by old women. The only survivors here, as in the wild, are the smart and the > strong - just as it should be. > > RAS - moderated by nature :)

I'm not an old woman....... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" wrote... >> <snip> > I'm not an old woman....... But neither do you moderate RSC, if I'm not mistaken? Jan. =---

Hey Byron - I got banned from RSC but am still alive here - does that me a survivor? ;-) "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:42e1ec79$0$31973$[email hidden]...

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> ras always has been and always will be the best discussion place for sims. > Idiots get crucified and people say it how it is and can be as > enthusiastic, emotional and harsh as they feel appropriate without fear of > being moderated by old women. The only survivors here, as in the wild, are > the smart and the strong - just as it should be. > > RAS - moderated by nature :) > > > > "Michael Sisson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:MPG.1d4b5bca2d1efdef989681@nntp... >> There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. >> Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser. >> >> An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also >> contact if the problem persists. >> >> We apologise for any inconvenience. >> >> >> ---------------- >> >> >> I appreciate what they are doing, but I really wish everyone would come >> (back) to R.A.S. >> >> (And please don't take the thread header to heart. Although I have been >> on usenet and web forums long enough to know some Wonk is going to reply >> to the header and header alone. Screw you, non message reading replier!) >> >> >> MRSisson >> -- >> LOAD "GPL",8 >> >> SEARCHING FOR GPL >> LOADING >> READY. >> RUN > >

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> > "Goy Larsen" wrote... > >> <snip> > > I'm not an old woman....... > > But neither do you moderate RSC, if I'm not mistaken? > > Jan. > =---

Byron might not have been referring to RSC alone :) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Tim McCausland" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wAsEe.40922$[email hidden]...

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> > Having all of the separate forums on RSC I think is much more useful than > one big newsgroup for all sims. One of the big issues I've always had with > RAS in it's heyday (say around the peek of GPL) was that topics quickly > got off topic or people chimed in with useless comments. Especially with > the absolute dominance and superiority complex of GPL users, topics about > other games quickly turned into how that particular game wasn't 'sim' > enough and shouldn't even be discussed. >

Yes, I think that for specific and technical discussions, especially by modders, that RSC and the like are good places that filter out the nonsense. They can be decent places to run leagues from too. The 2 best things about ras are - 1/ It will never go down 2/ There will never be a better place to get an idea about the quality of new releases. Even a liberally moderated forum can discourage people from being as damning as they'd like to be and should be. One can shed all niceness and be as honest and accurate as they please with the entirety of the English language at their disposal! :)

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> Jan Verschueren wrote: >> >> "Goy Larsen" wrote... >> >> <snip> >> > I'm not an old woman....... >> >> But neither do you moderate RSC, if I'm not mistaken? >> >> Jan. >> =--- > > Byron might not have been referring to RSC alone :) >

Dunno why you think I'm referring to you Goy :) And in fact, in particular, I'm not. Just pointing out the general differences between ras and any moderated forum. So how is Gronk, anyway? LOL.

"alex martini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:plAEe.7830$[email hidden]... > Hey Byron - I got banned from RSC but am still alive here - does that me > a survivor? ;-) So far! :)

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> > "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Jan Verschueren wrote: > >> > >> "Goy Larsen" wrote... > >> >> <snip> > >> > I'm not an old woman....... > >> > >> But neither do you moderate RSC, if I'm not mistaken? > >> > >> Jan. > >> =--- > > > > Byron might not have been referring to RSC alone :) > > > > Dunno why you think I'm referring to you Goy :)

LOL, just busting your chops, didn't think you'd take it personally and btw, you're off the list, on the other hand, if had taken it personally, I can take a few jabs in the other direction :), comes with the job > And in fact, in particular, I'm not. Just pointing out the general > differences between ras and any moderated forum. > > So how is Gronk, anyway? LOL. He left about the same time you did, still see him posting on other forums though Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> >> So how is Gronk, anyway? LOL. > > He left about the same time you did, still see him posting on other > forums though > Maybe he saw my post b4 it was deleted - mission accomplished! :)

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:02:34 GMT, Tony Rickard wrote: > As it continues to fragment into huddled groups RAS is likely to be the > only group for the entire sim racing community. For me, RAS still is *the* definite source of reliable information about new racing sims or getting help with old ones. I find web forums slow, cumbersome to navigate, and I usually cannot use emacs to create new posts. ;^) fsck those bouncing smileys, ascii still rocks when it comes to exchange of information. All the best, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:45 +0100 (BST), Andrew MacPherson wrote: > No, it's because many people can surf the web at work/school but not > read newsgroups. IMO anyway :-) > http://groups.google.com puts you back in a web browser, but is a half-decent interface if you read only a couple of usenet groups. You can even post from your gmail account. Of course, posting from google won't make you a "mechanic" or whatever silly honors webforums tend to use after you've posted a couple of times ;-) All the best, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

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> > On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:45 +0100 (BST), Andrew MacPherson wrote: > > No, it's because many people can surf the web at work/school but not > > read newsgroups. IMO anyway :-) > > > > http://groups.google.com puts you back in a web browser, but is a > half-decent interface if you read only a couple of usenet groups. You > can even post from your gmail account. Of course, posting from google > won't make you a "mechanic" or whatever silly honors webforums tend to > use after you've posted a couple of times ;-)

I'm "Sven the Berserk" (Erik the Viking reference) on Team Tundra's forum, nothing silly about that :) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "goyl at nettx dot no" http://www.theuspits.com "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........" --Groucho Marx--

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> There seems to have been a slight problem with the database. > Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser. > > An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also > contact if the problem persists. > > We apologise for any inconvenience. > > > ---------------- > > > I appreciate what they are doing, but I really wish everyone would come > (back) to R.A.S. > > (And please don't take the thread header to heart. Although I have been > on usenet and web forums long enough to know some Wonk is going to reply > to the header and header alone. Screw you, non message reading replier!) > > > MRSisson

It's down again with the same database error message :( I read a couple of those forums daily ... well maybe not today :(

Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?= <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:02:34 GMT, Tony Rickard wrote: >> As it continues to fragment into huddled groups RAS is likely to be the >> only group for the entire sim racing community. > > For me, RAS still is *the* definite source of reliable information > about new racing sims or getting help with old ones. I find web forums > slow, cumbersome to navigate, and I usually cannot use emacs to create > new posts. ;^) fsck those bouncing smileys, ascii still rocks when it > comes to exchange of information. > > All the best, uwe

I'm with you Hooover, not sure how definitive ras it is at the moment but it's format is definitely my preference. Plowing through multiple web forums is way too tedious. Don

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> I agree about people coming back to R.A.S. I think the success of web > based forums is due to people not knowing how to set up a news reader > and also being wowed by the look of web based forum (and those horrible > waste of space aviators or whatever they are called.) It is to bad that > they don't realize the extreme inefficiency of web based forums. > > I'll continue to use RSC (when they are available) because for now that > is where the good discussion are.

When I first started on web based boards I thought they were horrible. Now I find them far better than usenet. The interface is much better, the moderation gets rid of the dheads, photos are easily posted, sticky topics, sub sections, yada yada. Charlie

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Don Scurlock) wrote: > Plowing through multiple web > forums is way too tedious. I've said before in similar discussions that I wish some clever person would come up with a "newsreader" for multiple forums. You'd think it'd be possible, but I guess if it was simple someone would have done it by now. Andrew McP

"Charlie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > When I first started on web based boards I thought they were horrible. > Now I find them far better than usenet. The interface is much better, > the moderation gets rid of the dheads, photos are easily posted, sticky > topics, sub sections, yada yada. > Sometimes the moderation gets rid of everyone but the dickheads. Moderation is completely dependent on the moderator. Moderation can also often amount to a moderator being a rude arse sticking his nose into a conversation that's none of his business. When it becomes a territorial, dictator thing where you need to be a clone of the modertor (minus the power, of course - many suffer from the mentality that it's ok for them to have a cock and balls so long as no one else does), that becomes a worthless forum. Photos are good, but there's nothing stopping someone puting up a link here.

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> Sometimes the moderation gets rid of everyone but the dickheads. > Moderation is completely dependent on the moderator. Moderation can also > often amount to a moderator being a rude arse sticking his nose into a > conversation that's none of his business. When it becomes a territorial, > dictator thing where you need to be a clone of the modertor (minus the > power, of course - many suffer from the mentality that it's ok for them to > have a cock and balls so long as no one else does), that becomes a worthless > forum. > > Photos are good, but there's nothing stopping someone puting up a link > here.

I'm not trying to convert anyone, just putting forward a point of view. There are benefits to web forums, but the only real benefit I see to usenet is download speed, and that's pretty much a non issue with broadband. Charlie

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:41 +0100 (BST), Andrew MacPherson wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > (Don Scurlock) wrote: > >> Plowing through multiple web >> forums is way too tedious. > > I've said before in similar discussions that I wish some clever > person would come up with a "newsreader" for multiple forums. You'd > think it'd be possible, but I guess if it was simple someone would > have done it by now. > > Andrew McP

Well, some forums offer RSS syndications which you could then add to your firefox bookmarks or whatever, but that's nowhere near newsreader functionality. cheers, uwe -- GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Charlie) wrote: > but the only real benefit I see to > usenet is download speed, Depends how you use newsgroups. I download all new messages to all the groups I belong to and read them in "offline" mode. That means you (a) don't miss something because it was in a thread you didn't check (b) can filter out people/threads which annoy you (though I very rarely do this) (c) can glance at every message quickly, only reading the stuff that interests you thoroughly. I guess that's an extension to (a) really, but it's a huge factor in the usenet equation for me. Doing the same thing in forums is a *much* more clumsy and time consuming affair. Andrew McP

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> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 07:41 +0100 (BST), Andrew MacPherson wrote: > >>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] >>(Don Scurlock) wrote: >> >> >>>Plowing through multiple web >>>forums is way too tedious. >> >>I've said before in similar discussions that I wish some clever >>person would come up with a "newsreader" for multiple forums. You'd >>think it'd be possible, but I guess if it was simple someone would >>have done it by now. >> >>Andrew McP > > > Well, some forums offer RSS syndications which you could then add to > your firefox bookmarks or whatever, but that's nowhere near newsreader > functionality. > > cheers, uwe >

Another option would be to just subscribe to the groups and have all the posts emailed to you. Write a rule to dump them in a folder and then you'd have pure text grouped by subject. I don't know if RSC offers email notification like that, but the SimBin forum does. Only thing is it just sends you the first post and then you have to go to the site and subscribe to the thread if you want to receive the replies via email (at least that's as far as I've gotten with it). Russell

"Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:42e759a1$0$454$[email hidden]...

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> > "Charlie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> >> When I first started on web based boards I thought they were horrible. >> Now I find them far better than usenet. The interface is much better, >> the moderation gets rid of the dheads, photos are easily posted, sticky >> topics, sub sections, yada yada. >> > > Sometimes the moderation gets rid of everyone but the dickheads. > Moderation is completely dependent on the moderator. Moderation can also > often amount to a moderator being a rude arse sticking his nose into a > conversation that's none of his business. When it becomes a territorial, > dictator thing where you need to be a clone of the modertor (minus the > power, of course - many suffer from the mentality that it's ok for them to > have a cock and balls so long as no one else does), that becomes a > worthless forum. > > Photos are good, but there's nothing stopping someone puting up a link > here.

A fine description of RSC Byron - and, since this is the 2nd time I find myself agreeing with one of your posts, it's clear that therapy is now in order ...

[email hidden] (Andrew MacPherson) wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] > (Don Scurlock) wrote: > >> Plowing through multiple web >> forums is way too tedious. > > I've said before in similar discussions that I wish some clever > person would come up with a "newsreader" for multiple forums. You'd > think it'd be possible, but I guess if it was simple someone would > have done it by now. > > Andrew McP

I have tried it. Not a "newsreader" (no point doing yet another newsreader, there're few good existing ones), but a proxy that was converting web-based forums into NNTP feed. It is not particularly difficult, just a matter of parsing web pages. Unfortunately, your average forum is full of bugs and errors, so you have to write your own custom parser for each forum working around those bugs. And what's even worse, forums seem to be in a state of constant rebugging (rebugging is a process of replacing old bugs with a new ones). Altogether, it does not seem to be a worthwhile task. At least until the quality of web forums improves. Alex.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (alexti) wrote: > I have tried it. Well done for trying. I suspected that even without bugs the multiple forum formats would make it a difficult project. Andrew McP

"alex martini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aNUFe.9456$[email hidden]...

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> > "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:42e759a1$0$454$[email hidden]... >> >> "Charlie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >>> >>> When I first started on web based boards I thought they were horrible. >>> Now I find them far better than usenet. The interface is much better, >>> the moderation gets rid of the dheads, photos are easily posted, sticky >>> topics, sub sections, yada yada. >>> >> >> Sometimes the moderation gets rid of everyone but the dickheads. >> Moderation is completely dependent on the moderator. Moderation can also >> often amount to a moderator being a rude arse sticking his nose into a >> conversation that's none of his business. When it becomes a territorial, >> dictator thing where you need to be a clone of the modertor (minus the >> power, of course - many suffer from the mentality that it's ok for them >> to have a cock and balls so long as no one else does), that becomes a >> worthless forum. >> >> Photos are good, but there's nothing stopping someone puting up a link >> here. > A fine description of RSC Byron - and, since this is the 2nd time I find > myself agreeing with one of your posts, it's clear that therapy is now in > order ... >

I'll book you an apointment with doctor Todt - he'll tell you what you want to hear! :)

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> Byron Forbes wrote: > >> Sometimes the moderation gets rid of everyone but the dickheads. >> Moderation is completely dependent on the moderator. Moderation can also >> often amount to a moderator being a rude arse sticking his nose into a >> conversation that's none of his business. When it becomes a territorial, >> dictator thing where you need to be a clone of the modertor (minus the >> power, of course - many suffer from the mentality that it's ok for them >> to >> have a cock and balls so long as no one else does), that becomes a >> worthless >> forum. >> >> Photos are good, but there's nothing stopping someone puting up a link >> here. > > I'm not trying to convert anyone, just putting forward a point of view. > There are benefits to web forums, but the only real benefit I see to > usenet is download speed, and that's pretty much a non issue with > broadband. >

The only thing I miss in here is a few good emoticons. :) Anyone know if emoticons for usenet is a possibility or maybe even in the works?

> Hey Byron - I got banned from RSC but am still alive here - does that me a survivor? ;-) Why where you banned? Personally I quit RSC because of their policy of pubicly attaching warning label to their members. I got a warning for posting a link to a video that one of the moderators claimed was copywrighted, when in fact the video was public domain. When I explained that this false accuastion was the equivalent of defamation of character, the moderators at RSC got all nervous and asked me to re-agree to their policies, which I refused to do and I quit RSC instead, asking them to delete all my posts, which they did. As far as I know RSC is the only forum that pubicly adds warning labels to it's members.

And, as we are all aware, being pubicly attached to your member can be extremely painful! BK "Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jWQIe.259436$Qo.52243@fed1read01... > > Hey Byron - I got banned from RSC but am still alive here - does thatme a survivor? ;-) > > Personally I quit RSC because of their policy of pubicly attaching warning > label to their members.

Yes, but it does seem like a fair policy, attaching a warning label to a member, for any known to have VD. I suppose the leaking puss, blood, sores and scabs is enough warning in most cases though so..................... "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:42f487da$[email hidden]...

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> And, as we are all aware, being pubicly attached to your member can be > extremely painful! > > BK > > "Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jWQIe.259436$Qo.52243@fed1read01... >> > Hey Byron - I got banned from RSC but am still alive here - does that > me a survivor? ;-) >> >> Personally I quit RSC because of their policy of pubicly attaching >> warning >> label to their members. > >

> Yes, but it does seem like a fair policy, attaching a warning label to a member, for any known to have VD. I suppose > the leaking puss, blood, sores and scabs is enough warning in most cases though so..................... Note also that the RSC warning are yellow (low) and red (severe), which seems appropriate. So RSC should be known as the Scarlet Letter forum site. Their site was shut down a long time ago because of complaints to their ip host about links in their site, so they are a bit more paranoid than most sites. On the other extreme, there's Pirate Bay in Sweden, which I found when looking for the NR2005 mod. I'm not sure what else they have there, but their "legal threats" section is pretty funny. http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php

"pus".................."puss" is a cat. :) BK "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:42f5c997$0$15518$[email hidden]... > I suppose the leaking puss,

Right you are Mr Spellchecker! :) However, what this really means is the English can't even get their own language right anymore! lol. "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "pus".................."puss" is a cat. > > :) > > BK > > "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:42f5c997$0$15518$[email hidden]... > >> I suppose the leaking puss, > >

Are you English, Byron? BK "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:42f6f8c6$0$15512$[email hidden]... > However, what this really means is the English can't even get theirown > language right anymore! lol. >

No. "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:42f714f1$[email hidden]...

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> Are you English, Byron? > > BK > > "Byron Forbes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:42f6f8c6$0$15512$[email hidden]... >> However, what this really means is the English can't even get their > own >> language right anymore! lol. >> > >

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alex martini wrote: > Hey Byron - I got banned from RSC but am still alive here - does that me a > survivor? ;-) No, just a dipshit.

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> alex martini wrote: >> Hey Byron - I got banned from RSC but am still alive here - does that me >> a >> survivor? ;-) > > No, just a dipshit. >

Oh dear ... and to think someone called you a prick extraordinaire (or something, I forget what) ... but that guy was wrong for sure - there's nothing extroirdinaire about you at all, is there jason?

alex martini wrote: > Oh dear ... and to think someone called you a prick extraordinaire (or > something, I forget what) ... but that guy was wrong for sure - there's > nothing extroirdinaire about you at all, is there jason? Shouldn't you be working on some new fiction for your tabloid?

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> alex martini wrote: > >> Oh dear ... and to think someone called you a prick extraordinaire (or >> something, I forget what) ... but that guy was wrong for sure - there's >> nothing extroirdinaire about you at all, is there jason? > > Shouldn't you be working on some new fiction for your tabloid?

Yup - and you? Still aspiring to be the pivot boy in an RSC circle-jerk?

alex martini wrote: > Yup - and you? Still aspiring to be the pivot boy in an RSC circle-jerk? It's funny you say that, considering I've been banned in the past. I guess not going around and acting like a martyr makes me some sort of raging fan boy, huh? How's the National Enquirer of sim racing magazines doing?

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> > alex martini wrote: > >> Yup - and you? Still aspiring to be the pivot boy in an RSC circle-jerk? > > It's funny you say that, considering I've been banned in the past. I > guess not going around and acting like a martyr makes me some sort of > raging fan boy, huh? > > How's the National Enquirer of sim racing magazines doing?

Very well thanks - waiting for the expose of you playing soggy-biscuit with John Schoen and friends ... Btw, what would be the NY Times of sim racing magazines?

alex martini wrote: > Very well thanks - waiting for the expose of you playing soggy-biscuit with > John Schoen and friends ... Who is John Schoen? Sounds vaguely familiar, but I have no idea who you're talking about.

"jason moyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> alex martini wrote: > >> Very well thanks - waiting for the expose of you playing soggy-biscuit >> with >> John Schoen and friends ... > > Who is John Schoen? Sounds vaguely familiar, but I have no idea who > you're talking about.

You should know better than lying to the gutter rag-press - we have evidence! And soon we'll have photo-shop too!

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> alex martini wrote: > > > Very well thanks - waiting for the expose of you playing soggy-biscuit with > > John Schoen and friends ... > > Who is John Schoen? Sounds vaguely familiar, but I have no idea who > you're talking about. > >

Believe he was mentioned as being one of the 'Naziist', RSC moderators... allegedly. ;-) -- Pete Ives Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email