GPL, Voodoo5 Frustrations

After replacing my 2 Voodoo2's with a Voodoo5, I'm experiencing some minor annoyances within GPL. Although the video drivers provided on the Voodoo5 CD (Version 4.12.01.0543, dated 5-16-2001) work with GPL out-of-the-box, the driving screen has an annoying flicker on top and on the left side, when using FSAA. I'm told that updated drivers would eliminate that. After eradicating every vestige of Voodoo, 3Dfx, and Glide from my system (Registry, Windows and Windows\System directories) beforehand, I tried installing updated drivers -- namely Drivers 1.04.00, 1.03.00 and 1.04.01 beta, (all downloaded from www.3dfx.com). However, with each of these drivers, my mouse locks up at the GPL opening screen. To be specific, although I can click on the red and green buttons, it _appears_ that they are being pressed, but nothing happens. However, if I click on Best Laps, View a Replay, etc, I can get to those screens. However, once there, I again cannot press either red or green. I probably should have started this post with these questions: 1. Is it even worthwhile pursuing this further for GPL?. The main reason I would like to update my video drivers is so that I can activate "anti-aliasing" (AA) within the Graphics Quality settings in GPL. (I'm told that the newer drivers would allow this). 2. I already have FSAA set to 2 for Glide within 3Dfx tools. Does that mean that AA is already in effect within GPL, or not? Or does AA in GPL only activate by clicking on it within GPL? In other words, do the updated Voodoo 5 drivers make a significant difference for GPL? I just want to optimize the GPL performance of my new vidcard. After all, that's why I bought it. My system is a Celeron 566@850; 256 Megs RAM; MS Explorer Intellimouse; Windows95 OSR2. Any help with this, from Voodoo5 GPL'ers would be appreciated. (I would appreciate NOT receiving responses saying that "You shoulda bought a ______ instead". ) Thanks. And sorry for the long post. -- Bert -- Bert

First are you using the v1.2 of GPL? Get that installed. Then, YES the Voodoo does AA automatically, in fact you'll probably find you can NOT check the aa box in GPL. But trust me...it's worth it...Just about any driver dated from November on should rock with gpl. You will see a little edging at the far sides of the game window...but I never notice them while driving. 2xfsaa in glide will give you good results at 800x600. You may have to play with the detail sliders some to get a solid 36fps. "BRH" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> After replacing my 2 Voodoo2's with a Voodoo5, I'm experiencing some > minor annoyances within GPL. > > Although the video drivers provided on the Voodoo5 CD (Version > 4.12.01.0543, dated 5-16-2001) work with GPL out-of-the-box, the driving > screen has an annoying flicker on top and on the left side, when using > FSAA. I'm told that updated drivers would eliminate that. After > eradicating every vestige of Voodoo, 3Dfx, and Glide from my system > (Registry, Windows and Windows\System directories) beforehand, I tried > installing updated drivers -- namely Drivers 1.04.00, 1.03.00 and > 1.04.01 beta, (all downloaded from www.3dfx.com). However, with each of > these drivers, my mouse locks up at the GPL opening screen. > > To be specific, although I can click on the red and green buttons, it > _appears_ that they are being pressed, but nothing happens. However, if > I click on Best Laps, View a Replay, etc, I can get to those screens. > However, once there, I again cannot press either red or green. > > I probably should have started this post with these questions: > > 1. Is it even worthwhile pursuing this further for GPL?. The main > reason I would like to update my video drivers is so that I can activate > "anti-aliasing" (AA) within the Graphics Quality settings in GPL. (I'm > told that the newer drivers would allow this).

yes....best card for use with gpl > > 2. I already have FSAA set to 2 for Glide within 3Dfx tools. Does that > mean that AA is already in effect within GPL, or not? Or does AA in GPL > only activate by clicking on it within GPL? In other words, do the > updated Voodoo 5 drivers make a significant difference for GPL? yes...see the first part of my reply. > > I just want to optimize the GPL performance of my new vidcard. After > all, that's why I bought it. i think www.slotweeks.com (that url is from my feeble memory..so you may have to search for slot's site.) has a faq on setting up the various features of the V5. dave henrie

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> > My system is a Celeron 566@850; 256 Megs RAM; MS Explorer Intellimouse; > Windows95 OSR2. > > Any help with this, from Voodoo5 GPL'ers would be appreciated. (I would > appreciate NOT receiving responses saying that "You shoulda bought a > ______ instead". ) > > Thanks. And sorry for the long post. > > -- > Bert > > > > -- > Bert > > >

First, nothing but a Rendition card will let you access the AA setting in GPL. The Voodoo5 handles the AA on its own. I'm waiting for my PCI Voodoo5 to add to my GF2, so I can't tell you much else, but something you might want to look at is an OS update - running Win95 these days makes your system rather vulnerable to anomalies. You could have an outdated DLL or system component that is effecting things in unknown ways. No way to be sure if this is contributing to you problem, but an upgrade to Win98SE (*not* WinME) would be highly recommended. Best of luck - all the people I've heard from swear that 4xFSAA on a Voodoo5 makes GPL look like a new game. That's why I bought one............ Rick

........and that's exactly why I bought one. Thanks for the explanation of AA as it relates to GPL and the Voodoo5. I read at www.simracingmag.com that the updated V5 drivers require DirectX 8 (or 8a). I'm using DX 7.0a, so I guess that I'll have to update DX and try again. Thanks again! Rick Baumhauer wrote:

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> First, nothing but a Rendition card will let you access the AA setting in > GPL. The Voodoo5 handles the AA on its own. > > I'm waiting for my PCI Voodoo5 to add to my GF2, so I can't tell you much > else, but something you might want to look at is an OS update - running > Win95 these days makes your system rather vulnerable to anomalies. You > could have an outdated DLL or system component that is effecting things in > unknown ways. No way to be sure if this is contributing to you problem, but > an upgrade to Win98SE (*not* WinME) would be highly recommended. > > Best of luck - all the people I've heard from swear that 4xFSAA on a Voodoo5 > makes GPL look like a new game. That's why I bought one............ > > Rick

-- Bert

Its your windows 95osr2 thats causing the problem. I had the same problem that you had, its caused by a memory lockup with win95. Are you running any memory managers? If so get rid of them. And then add this line to your windows/system.ini file: (Look at your 386Enh section in system.ini for any memory managers) [vcache] MaxFileCache=16384 MinFileCache=16384 Since you have so much memory, you can set this higher or lower as you need. Some very large programs, like adobe photoshop, might take longer to load. I have 128mb ram and set mine at 8192 with no problems at all. I do use a tnt1 card though, so if this doesnt work try this this fix from the winvroc website: http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc/html/common/winvroc-help.htm#mouse-cursor KC BRH <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > ........and that's exactly why I bought one. Thanks for the explanationof AA > as it relates to GPL and the Voodoo5. I read at www.simracingmag.com thatthe > updated V5 drivers require DirectX 8 (or 8a). I'm using DX 7.0a, so Iguess

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> that I'll have to update DX and try again. > > Thanks again! > > > > Rick Baumhauer wrote: > > > First, nothing but a Rendition card will let you access the AA setting

in > > GPL. The Voodoo5 handles the AA on its own. > > > > I'm waiting for my PCI Voodoo5 to add to my GF2, so I can't tell youmuch > > else, but something you might want to look at is an OS update - running > > Win95 these days makes your system rather vulnerable to anomalies. You > > could have an outdated DLL or system component that is effecting thingsin > > unknown ways. No way to be sure if this is contributing to you problem,but > > an upgrade to Win98SE (*not* WinME) would be highly recommended. > > > > Best of luck - all the people I've heard from swear that 4xFSAA on aVoodoo5

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> > makes GPL look like a new game. That's why I bought one............ > > > > Rick > > -- > Bert > > >

No, I'm not running any memory managers, but I'll give that system.ini tweak a shot. Thanks. {USER_FIRSTNAME} Crocco wrote:

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> Its your windows 95osr2 thats causing the problem. > I had the same problem that you had, its caused by a memory lockup with > win95. Are you running any memory managers? If so get rid of them. And > then add this line to your windows/system.ini file: (Look at your 386Enh > section in system.ini for any memory managers) > > [vcache] > MaxFileCache=16384 > MinFileCache=16384 > > Since you have so much memory, you can set this higher or lower as you need. > Some very large programs, like adobe photoshop, might take longer to load. > I have 128mb ram and set mine at 8192 with no problems at all. I do use a > tnt1 card though, so if this doesnt work try this this fix from the winvroc > website: > http://gpl.gamestats.com/vroc/html/common/winvroc-help.htm#mouse-cursor > > KC > > BRH <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > ........and that's exactly why I bought one. Thanks for the explanation > of AA > > as it relates to GPL and the Voodoo5. I read at www.simracingmag.com that > the > > updated V5 drivers require DirectX 8 (or 8a). I'm using DX 7.0a, so I > guess > > that I'll have to update DX and try again. > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > Rick Baumhauer wrote: > > > > > First, nothing but a Rendition card will let you access the AA setting > in > > > GPL. The Voodoo5 handles the AA on its own. > > > > > > I'm waiting for my PCI Voodoo5 to add to my GF2, so I can't tell you > much > > > else, but something you might want to look at is an OS update - running > > > Win95 these days makes your system rather vulnerable to anomalies. You > > > could have an outdated DLL or system component that is effecting things > in > > > unknown ways. No way to be sure if this is contributing to you problem, > but > > > an upgrade to Win98SE (*not* WinME) would be highly recommended. > > > > > > Best of luck - all the people I've heard from swear that 4xFSAA on a > Voodoo5 > > > makes GPL look like a new game. That's why I bought one............ > > > > > > Rick > > > > -- > > Bert > > > > > >

-- Bert