CPU WONT LOAD CORRECTLY

PIII 1Ghz cpu CUSL2 mb It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had fallen off Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine Have re-seasted all parts to no avail Any ideas? THANKS Tim

On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:42:32 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>PIII 1Ghz cpu >CUSL2 mb > >It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had fallen off >Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere > >Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz >Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios >Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios >The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 >It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine >Have re-seasted all parts to no avail > >Any ideas?

Since it loads at 750Mhz, that would indicate that you have a P3/1G with a 133fsb (7.5x133=1000 - 7.5x100=750). Are you using PC133 DIMMs? The p3/1G with the 100fsb has a 10x multiplier and uses PC100 DIMMs. They are not the same chip. ~daxe

try resetting the cmos with the jumper on the MB. Uusally just have to shut down machine. Change over jumper to other postion for 10 or 15 secs. change jumper to orig. position and reboot. Definetly need 133mhz ram. Charlie B "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:42:32 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >PIII 1Ghz cpu > >CUSL2 mb > > > >It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had fallen

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> >Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere > > > >Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz > >Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios > >Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios > >The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 > >It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine > >Have re-seasted all parts to no avail > > > >Any ideas? > > > Since it loads at 750Mhz, that would indicate that you have a P3/1G > with a 133fsb (7.5x133=1000 - 7.5x100=750). Are you using PC133 > DIMMs? > > The p3/1G with the 100fsb has a 10x multiplier and uses PC100 DIMMs. > They are not the same chip. > > ~daxe >

It is 133 memory, one chip I will try that Thanks Charlie B <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0b0q6.1233$[email hidden]... > try resetting the cmos with the jumper on the MB. Uusally just have toshut > down machine. Change over jumper to other postion for 10 or 15 secs.change

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> jumper to orig. position and reboot. Definetly need 133mhz ram. > > Charlie B > "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:42:32 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >PIII 1Ghz cpu > > >CUSL2 mb > > > > > >It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had

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> off > > >Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere > > > > > >Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz > > >Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios > > >Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios > > >The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 > > >It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine > > >Have re-seasted all parts to no avail > > > > > >Any ideas? > > > > > > Since it loads at 750Mhz, that would indicate that you have a P3/1G > > with a 133fsb (7.5x133=1000 - 7.5x100=750). Are you using PC133 > > DIMMs? > > > > The p3/1G with the 100fsb has a 10x multiplier and uses PC100 DIMMs. > > They are not the same chip. > > > > ~daxe > > > >

I have this same CPU (P3/1G/133fsb) and the CUSL2-C Mobo. I'll follow this thread to see if I can help you further. When you say it works to manually set 100/100/33, try setting manually to 133/133/33 and see if that works. That's what is behind the auto detect setting for that CPU. ~daxe On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:35:48 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>It is 133 memory, one chip >I will try that >Thanks > >Charlie B <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:0b0q6.1233$[email hidden]... >> try resetting the cmos with the jumper on the MB. Uusally just have to >shut >> down machine. Change over jumper to other postion for 10 or 15 secs. >change >> jumper to orig. position and reboot. Definetly need 133mhz ram. >> >> Charlie B >> "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:[email hidden]... >> > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:42:32 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >PIII 1Ghz cpu >> > >CUSL2 mb >> > > >> > >It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had >fallen >> off >> > >Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere >> > > >> > >Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz >> > >Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios >> > >Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios >> > >The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 >> > >It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine >> > >Have re-seasted all parts to no avail >> > > >> > >Any ideas? >> > >> > >> > Since it loads at 750Mhz, that would indicate that you have a P3/1G >> > with a 133fsb (7.5x133=1000 - 7.5x100=750). Are you using PC133 >> > DIMMs? >> > >> > The p3/1G with the 100fsb has a 10x multiplier and uses PC100 DIMMs. >> > They are not the same chip. >> > >> > ~daxe >> > >> >> >

I did try it and it did not work Im pretty sure I tried all four settings but I cant remember what the 3rd one was Just got back home so Im looking at the manual to see where the CMOS jumpers are ? so far, can you tell what would of caused this? And if so, is the potential bad part the CPU or the MB :) daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I have this same CPU (P3/1G/133fsb) and the CUSL2-C Mobo. I'll follow > this thread to see if I can help you further. > > When you say it works to manually set 100/100/33, try setting manually > to 133/133/33 and see if that works. That's what is behind the auto > detect setting for that CPU. > > ~daxe > > > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:35:48 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >It is 133 memory, one chip > >I will try that > >Thanks > > > >Charlie B <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:0b0q6.1233$[email hidden]... > >> try resetting the cmos with the jumper on the MB. Uusally just have to > >shut > >> down machine. Change over jumper to other postion for 10 or 15 secs. > >change > >> jumper to orig. position and reboot. Definetly need 133mhz ram. > >> > >> Charlie B > >> "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:[email hidden]... > >> > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:42:32 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> > >PIII 1Ghz cpu > >> > >CUSL2 mb > >> > > > >> > >It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had > >fallen > >> off > >> > >Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere > >> > > > >> > >Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz > >> > >Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios > >> > >Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios > >> > >The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 > >> > >It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine > >> > >Have re-seasted all parts to no avail > >> > > > >> > >Any ideas? > >> > > >> > > >> > Since it loads at 750Mhz, that would indicate that you have a P3/1G > >> > with a 133fsb (7.5x133=1000 - 7.5x100=750). Are you using PC133 > >> > DIMMs? > >> > > >> > The p3/1G with the 100fsb has a 10x multiplier and uses PC100 DIMMs. > >> > They are not the same chip. > >> > > >> > ~daxe > >> > > >> > >> > > >

If you can get it to boot and run with 100/100/33 then I would say it is neither the CPU nor the Mobo but the ram which is at fault since the CPU and Mobo *run*, but just won't run @ 133. Since the Mobo is not autodetecting the CPU correctly it probably isnt autodetecting the right core voltage either. Have you checked this out? You can also increase the fsb speed incrementally with the CUSL2 bios. Have you tried running, say 101/101/34 or something like that? ~daxe On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:15:53 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I did try it and it did not work >Im pretty sure I tried all four settings but I cant remember what the 3rd >one was >Just got back home so Im looking at the manual to see where the CMOS jumpers >are >? so far, can you tell what would of caused this? >And if so, is the potential bad part the CPU or the MB > >:) > > >daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> I have this same CPU (P3/1G/133fsb) and the CUSL2-C Mobo. I'll follow >> this thread to see if I can help you further. >> >> When you say it works to manually set 100/100/33, try setting manually >> to 133/133/33 and see if that works. That's what is behind the auto >> detect setting for that CPU. >> >> ~daxe >> >> >> On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:35:48 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> >> wrote: >> >> >It is 133 memory, one chip >> >I will try that >> >Thanks >> > >> >Charlie B <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:0b0q6.1233$[email hidden]... >> >> try resetting the cmos with the jumper on the MB. Uusally just have to >> >shut >> >> down machine. Change over jumper to other postion for 10 or 15 secs. >> >change >> >> jumper to orig. position and reboot. Definetly need 133mhz ram. >> >> >> >> Charlie B >> >> "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >> news:[email hidden]... >> >> > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:42:32 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >PIII 1Ghz cpu >> >> > >CUSL2 mb >> >> > > >> >> > >It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had >> >fallen >> >> off >> >> > >Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere >> >> > > >> >> > >Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz >> >> > >Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios >> >> > >Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios >> >> > >The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 >> >> > >It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine >> >> > >Have re-seasted all parts to no avail >> >> > > >> >> > >Any ideas? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Since it loads at 750Mhz, that would indicate that you have a P3/1G >> >> > with a 133fsb (7.5x133=1000 - 7.5x100=750). Are you using PC133 >> >> > DIMMs? >> >> > >> >> > The p3/1G with the 100fsb has a 10x multiplier and uses PC100 DIMMs. >> >> > They are not the same chip. >> >> > >> >> > ~daxe >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >

For peace of mind you might want to download and run this utility from intel to positively id the cpu. http://support.intel.com/support/processors/tools/frequencyid/ On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:42:32 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>PIII 1Ghz cpu >CUSL2 mb > >It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had fallen off >Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere > >Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz >Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios >Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios >The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 >It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine >Have re-seasted all parts to no avail > >Any ideas? > >THANKS >Tim > >

Ill try that daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > If you can get it to boot and run with 100/100/33 then I would say it > is neither the CPU nor the Mobo but the ram which is at fault since > the CPU and Mobo *run*, but just won't run @ 133. > > Since the Mobo is not autodetecting the CPU correctly it probably > isnt autodetecting the right core voltage either. Have you checked > this out? You can also increase the fsb speed incrementally with the > CUSL2 bios. Have you tried running, say 101/101/34 or something like > that? > > ~daxe > > > > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:15:53 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >I did try it and it did not work > >Im pretty sure I tried all four settings but I cant remember what the 3rd > >one was > >Just got back home so Im looking at the manual to see where the CMOS

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> >are > >? so far, can you tell what would of caused this? > >And if so, is the potential bad part the CPU or the MB > > > >:) > > > > > >daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> I have this same CPU (P3/1G/133fsb) and the CUSL2-C Mobo. I'll follow > >> this thread to see if I can help you further. > >> > >> When you say it works to manually set 100/100/33, try setting manually > >> to 133/133/33 and see if that works. That's what is behind the auto > >> detect setting for that CPU. > >> > >> ~daxe > >> > >> > >> On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:35:48 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >It is 133 memory, one chip > >> >I will try that > >> >Thanks > >> > > >> >Charlie B <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> >news:0b0q6.1233$[email hidden]... > >> >> try resetting the cmos with the jumper on the MB. Uusally just have

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> >> >shut > >> >> down machine. Change over jumper to other postion for 10 or 15 secs. > >> >change > >> >> jumper to orig. position and reboot. Definetly need 133mhz ram. > >> >> > >> >> Charlie B > >> >> "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> >> news:[email hidden]... > >> >> > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 03:42:32 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > >PIII 1Ghz cpu > >> >> > >CUSL2 mb > >> >> > > > >> >> > >It worked prior to shipping but when it arrvived the heatsink had > >> >fallen > >> >> off > >> >> > >Remounted it, there was no apparent damage anywhere > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Upon booting, it defaults to 500mhz > >> >> > >Tried reseating CPU it automattically goes to bios > >> >> > >Tried changing to 1000Mhz but still resets to 500 and loads bios > >> >> > >The only thing that works is manually setting to 100/100/33 > >> >> > >It loads at 750Mhz and everything works fine > >> >> > >Have re-seasted all parts to no avail > >> >> > > > >> >> > >Any ideas? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Since it loads at 750Mhz, that would indicate that you have a

P3/1G > >> >> > with a 133fsb (7.5x133=1000 - 7.5x100=750). Are you using PC133 > >> >> > DIMMs? > >> >> > > >> >> > The p3/1G with the 100fsb has a 10x multiplier and uses PC100DIMMs.

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> >> >> > They are not the same chip. > >> >> > > >> >> > ~daxe > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >

Tried shorting out CMOS, no luck Using 100/100/33 I can get it up to 900 Mhz safely @120/120/40 but anything higher locks up PC or gets the blue screen I have not tried changing the core voltage but its at 1.7 Also used Intel's processor frequency utility and it correctly identifies the CPU at 1 Ghz and 133FSB The memory is from crucial daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > If you can get it to boot and run with 100/100/33 then I would say it > is neither the CPU nor the Mobo but the ram which is at fault since > the CPU and Mobo *run*, but just won't run @ 133. > > Since the Mobo is not autodetecting the CPU correctly it probably > isnt autodetecting the right core voltage either. Have you checked > this out? You can also increase the fsb speed incrementally with the > CUSL2 bios. Have you tried running, say 101/101/34 or something like > that? > > ~daxe

Still sounds to me like the memory is not PC133. Try and borrow some known PC133 from someone and see if that helps. With all you are doing, it seems like the FSB is the stumbling point. That would tend to stumble when the RAM can't keep up. Had you used this RAM in another situation previously? ~daxe On Mon, 12 Mar 2001 04:01:53 GMT, "Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Tried shorting out CMOS, no luck >Using 100/100/33 I can get it up to 900 Mhz safely @120/120/40 but anything >higher locks up PC or gets the blue screen >I have not tried changing the core voltage but its at 1.7 >Also used Intel's processor frequency utility and it correctly identifies >the CPU at 1 Ghz and 133FSB > >The memory is from crucial > >daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> If you can get it to boot and run with 100/100/33 then I would say it >> is neither the CPU nor the Mobo but the ram which is at fault since >> the CPU and Mobo *run*, but just won't run @ 133. >> >> Since the Mobo is not autodetecting the CPU correctly it probably >> isnt autodetecting the right core voltage either. Have you checked >> this out? You can also increase the fsb speed incrementally with the >> CUSL2 bios. Have you tried running, say 101/101/34 or something like >> that? >> >> ~daxe > >

Everything was fine before we shipped it The heatsink had fallen off in shipping and didnt notice until after he turned it on and it locked at the black screen Intel Freq Util correctly identifies the chip but that doesnt mean it wasnt damaged, and thats what scaring me The fan wires were crimped around the memory module and replaced that to no avail At 864mhz he is now getting errors in windows so Im really counting on that memory being bad :) Buying another stick tonight to try that Thanks daxe <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Still sounds to me like the memory is not PC133. Try and borrow some > known PC133 from someone and see if that helps. With all you are > doing, it seems like the FSB is the stumbling point. That would tend > to stumble when the RAM can't keep up. > > Had you used this RAM in another situation previously?