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I just inexplicably lost about 7 to 12 fps in N4!?!?!?! And this is accurate as I did extensive controlled testing in both D3D and OpenGL, full field and test sessions and I am looking at the spreadsheet I used right now. Solid, consistent results for about 2 weeks until yesterday. I have added nothing to my system. I have changed no settings. Same hardware, same software. The only thing I did was play around with the oc'ing sliders in the nVIDEA control panel--which seemed to slow down the game when pushed upwards!!! Now I have reset it back to "normal" (oc'ing off) and I have lost substantial performance....?? This is bizarre. For the record, I gained decent fps by switching to the nVIDEA 6.50 drivers and DX8.0a. I was very happy with the performance of my rig--now it is approaching borderline. I have lots of RAM and there is no disk activity whatsoever when using N4. I can't explain it. I will uninstall and re-install the video drivers, since I have already tried resetting the N4 graphic config a couple of times...although the read-out on the black set-up screen looks identical each time. I am definitely frustrated. Computers are supposed to be logical and consistent! Marc. -- **************************************************************************** Marc Collins [email hidden] Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? ****************************************************************************

Bizzare? More than likely you may have damaged the CPU on your video card by the overclocking. Once damage, you will be stuck with what you are lucky to end up with. Its not meant to be a flame, but that is what has happened and it's no wonder you've suffered the fps lost. Peter Walker Bagus51 "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GBNp6.397807$[email hidden]... > I just inexplicably lost about 7 to 12 fps in N4!?!?!?! > > And this is accurate as I did extensive controlled testing in both D3D and > OpenGL, full field and test sessions and I am looking at the spreadsheet I > used right now. Solid, consistent results for about 2 weeks until > yesterday. I have added nothing to my system. I have changed nosettings. > Same hardware, same software. The only thing I did was play around withthe > oc'ing sliders in the nVIDEA control panel--which seemed to slow down the > game when pushed upwards!!! Now I have reset it back to "normal" (oc'ing > off) and I have lost substantial performance....?? This is bizarre. > > For the record, I gained decent fps by switching to the nVIDEA 6.50drivers

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> and DX8.0a. I was very happy with the performance of my rig--now it is > approaching borderline. I have lots of RAM and there is no disk activity > whatsoever when using N4. I can't explain it. > > I will uninstall and re-install the video drivers, since I have already > tried resetting the N4 graphic config a couple of times...although the > read-out on the black set-up screen looks identical each time. > > I am definitely frustrated. Computers are supposed to be logical and > consistent! > > Marc. > > > -- >

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I doubt that... unless Marc experiences the same thing with different games... I have also noticed the frame rate drop after 70 laps at Glen it seems more like a memory leak issue... If and when that happens I turn of the lightmaps and gain around 20 fps... I have the game supplied DX and 6.31 detonators... -- Oliver "Peter Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:gVOp6.458$[email hidden]... > Bizzare? More than likely you may have damaged the CPU on your video card by > the overclocking. Once damage, you will be stuck with what you are lucky to > end up with. > > Its not meant to be a flame, but that is what has happened and it's no > wonder you've suffered the fps lost. > > Peter Walker > Bagus51 >

I have heard about similar issues when o'cing the 6.50's! Try the 6.31 with the same setup! -- Oliver "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GBNp6.397807$[email hidden]... > I just inexplicably lost about 7 to 12 fps in N4!?!?!?! > > And this is accurate as I did extensive controlled testing in both D3D and > OpenGL, full field and test sessions and I am looking at the spreadsheet I > used right now. Solid, consistent results for about 2 weeks until > yesterday. I have added nothing to my system. I have changed no settings. > Same hardware, same software. The only thing I did was play around with the > oc'ing sliders in the nVIDEA control panel--which seemed to slow down the > game when pushed upwards!!! Now I have reset it back to "normal" (oc'ing > off) and I have lost substantial performance....?? This is bizarre. > > For the record, I gained decent fps by switching to the nVIDEA 6.50 drivers > and DX8.0a. I was very happy with the performance of my rig--now it is > approaching borderline. I have lots of RAM and there is no disk activity > whatsoever when using N4. I can't explain it. > > I will uninstall and re-install the video drivers, since I have already > tried resetting the N4 graphic config a couple of times...although the > read-out on the black set-up screen looks identical each time. > > I am definitely frustrated. Computers are supposed to be logical and > consistent! > > Marc. > > > -- > **************************************************************************** > Marc Collins > [email hidden] > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > to take effect. Reboot now? > **************************************************************************** > > >

But he said in his post, it was AFTER trying the overclock. Peter Walker Bagus51 "Slick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:988qj6$kaf$[email hidden]... > I doubt that... unless Marc experiences the same thing with different > games... > I have also noticed the frame rate drop after 70 laps at Glen it seemsmore

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> like a memory leak issue... > If and when that happens I turn of the lightmaps and gain around 20 fps... > I have the game supplied DX and 6.31 detonators... > > -- > > Oliver > > > "Peter Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:gVOp6.458$[email hidden]... > > Bizzare? More than likely you may have damaged the CPU on your video

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> by > > the overclocking. Once damage, you will be stuck with what you are lucky > to > > end up with. > > > > Its not meant to be a flame, but that is what has happened and it's no > > wonder you've suffered the fps lost. > > > > Peter Walker > > Bagus51 > > > >

Good deduction, but I am not sure that if the video card was damaged it would slow down...if its CPU was damaged, you would get errors, bad graphics, lock-ups, etc. It may be that the overclocking (supported in the video card's control panel) set some registry setting somewhere that is now causing the general slowdown. I haven't monitored other game's frame rates close enough to know whether it is affecting them...my system is capable of running GPL at 36 fps pretty consistently. It is much easier to tell with N4, because it doesn't have the artificial cap on fps. Marc. "Peter Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hgTp6.433$[email hidden]...

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> But he said in his post, it was AFTER trying the overclock. > > Peter Walker > Bagus51 > > "Slick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:988qj6$kaf$[email hidden]... > > I doubt that... unless Marc experiences the same thing with different > > games... > > I have also noticed the frame rate drop after 70 laps at Glen it seems > more > > like a memory leak issue... > > If and when that happens I turn of the lightmaps and gain around 20

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> > I have the game supplied DX and 6.31 detonators... > > > > -- > > > > Oliver > > > > > > "Peter Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:gVOp6.458$[email hidden]... > > > Bizzare? More than likely you may have damaged the CPU on your video > card > > by > > > the overclocking. Once damage, you will be stuck with what you are

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> > to > > > end up with. > > > > > > Its not meant to be a flame, but that is what has happened and it's no > > > wonder you've suffered the fps lost. > > > > > > Peter Walker > > > Bagus51 > > > > > > > > >

Really--that once you adjust the overclock it does weird things and won't reset when you turn it off? I just want to make sure it's that specific. Thanks, Marc. "Slick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:988tq9$ljg$[email hidden]... > I have heard about similar issues when o'cing the 6.50's! Try the 6.31with

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> the same setup! > > -- > > Oliver > > > "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GBNp6.397807$[email hidden]... > > I just inexplicably lost about 7 to 12 fps in N4!?!?!?! > > > > And this is accurate as I did extensive controlled testing in both D3D

and > > OpenGL, full field and test sessions and I am looking at the spreadsheetI > > used right now. Solid, consistent results for about 2 weeks until > > yesterday. I have added nothing to my system. I have changed no > settings. > > Same hardware, same software. The only thing I did was play around with > the > > oc'ing sliders in the nVIDEA control panel--which seemed to slow downthe > > game when pushed upwards!!! Now I have reset it back to "normal"(oc'ing > > off) and I have lost substantial performance....?? This is bizarre. > > > > For the record, I gained decent fps by switching to the nVIDEA 6.50 > drivers > > and DX8.0a. I was very happy with the performance of my rig--now it is > > approaching borderline. I have lots of RAM and there is no diskactivity

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> > whatsoever when using N4. I can't explain it. > > > > I will uninstall and re-install the video drivers, since I have already > > tried resetting the N4 graphic config a couple of times...although the > > read-out on the black set-up screen looks identical each time. > > > > I am definitely frustrated. Computers are supposed to be logical and > > consistent! > > > > Marc. > > > > > > -- > > >

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> > Marc Collins > > [email hidden] > > > > Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change > > to take effect. Reboot now? > > >

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Do you have apply on startup checked? Try uncheck and oc'ing prior to starting N4... What card do you have? -- Oliver "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:79Wp6.343856$[email hidden]... > Really--that once you adjust the overclock it does weird things and won't > reset when you turn it off? I just want to make sure it's that specific. > > Thanks, > > Marc.