Merc-Benz Truck Racing :o)

WOW! what an amazing sim Mercedes-Benz truck racing is! I just wish i had a faster puter to run it on! (currently got a 400mhz Celeron. I think a 1.2Ghz Athlon would be nice! Pity i'm skint though) So, what does everyone else think? - brian

"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > WOW! what an amazing sim Mercedes-Benz truck racing is! > > I just wish i had a faster puter to run it on! (currently got a 400mhz > Celeron. I think a 1.2Ghz Athlon would be nice! Pity i'm skint though) > > So, what does everyone else think? It's a great game once you turn off the speed limiter. Why that was included, I'll never know ! And there is a handy benchmark tool thrown in as a useful bonus.

"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote: > It's a great game once you turn off the speed limiter. Why that > was included, I'll never know! No mystery, just read the included manual. In real life the series limits top speed for safety reasons (imagine the forces generated when a 5000 kg vehicle running at 240 km/h runs into something). - George

"George M. Smiley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IyVo6.48$[email hidden]...

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> > "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > It's a great game once you turn off the speed limiter. Why that > > was included, I'll never know! > > No mystery, just read the included manual. In real life the > series limits top speed for safety reasons (imagine the forces > generated when a 5000 kg vehicle running at 240 km/h > runs into something).

It is too slow, as a computer game, with the limiter ON. That is why there is an option to turn it OFF. The mystery is why, when the makers clearly realized this, did they bother having both options. Who the hell plays at the limited pace ?

THe speed limiter is a real-life feature. To have missed it out would be like putting only 3 wheels on a nascar or something... They're limited to, i think, 100 mph. Much more than that and the ensuing accident would have so much energy - quite destructive....i.e. the kinetic energy quadruples if the speed doubles. Just a brief example.... energy = 1/2 * m * v^2 Formula 1 car at 300 kph (Beginning of Villeneuves crash on Sunday) energy = 1/2 * 750 x 83.3 ^ 2 = 2,602,083 Truck only doing 100 kph energy = 1/2 * 10000 (guesstimate) * 27.7 ^ 2 = 3,858,024 Truck doing 200 kph would be 15,432,096 joules. So a 125 mph truck crash, is about 6 times more powerfull as a 190 mph F1 crash.... could job they keep the speed down eh? But yeah - as long as it's turn-on-and-off-able - then speed limiter is alright - it's nice to open them up a little. A GREAT game though, dont you think?! Doug "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9813je$qtcml$[email hidden]...

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> > "RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > WOW! what an amazing sim Mercedes-Benz truck racing is! > > > > I just wish i had a faster puter to run it on! (currently got a 400mhz > > Celeron. I think a 1.2Ghz Athlon would be nice! Pity i'm skint though) > > > > So, what does everyone else think? > > It's a great game once you turn off the speed limiter. Why that was > included, I'll never know ! And there is a handy benchmark tool thrown in

as > a useful bonus. > >

"Douglas Ellison" <mailbox@*spam*douglasellison.co.uk> wrote in message news:GyWo6.14097$[email hidden]... > THe speed limiter is a real-life feature. To have missed it out would be > like putting only 3 wheels on a nascar or something... They're limitedto, > i think, 100 mph. Much more than that and the ensuing accident would have > so much energy - quite destructive....i.e. the kinetic energy quadruplesif

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> the speed doubles. > > Just a brief example.... > > energy = 1/2 * m * v^2 > > Formula 1 car at 300 kph (Beginning of Villeneuves crash on Sunday) > energy = 1/2 * 750 x 83.3 ^ 2 = 2,602,083 > > > Truck only doing 100 kph > energy = 1/2 * 10000 (guesstimate) * 27.7 ^ 2 = 3,858,024 > > Truck doing 200 kph would be 15,432,096 joules. So a 125 mph truck crash, > is about 6 times more powerfull as a 190 mph F1 crash.... could job they > keep the speed down eh? > > But yeah - as long as it's turn-on-and-off-able - then speed limiter is > alright - it's nice to open them up a little. > > A GREAT game though, dont you think?! >

Yes, I agree. And as I drive a truck for my living, I am aware that they are governed. But the GAME is so slow in this mode. That is what I don't understand.

"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote: > It is too slow, as a computer game, with the limiter ON. That > is why there is an option to turn it OFF. The mystery is why, > when the makers clearly realized this, did they bother having > both options. Who the hell plays at the limited pace ? People like me who place having an accurate simulation above simply going fast in a straight line. - George

>"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote > So, what does everyone else think? By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's unfortunate. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

>"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote > It's a great game once you turn off the speed limiter. Why that was > included, I'll never know ! Because the speed limiter is an integral part of Truck racing. Anyway, by turning OFF the limiter you are actually enabling the arcade mode. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote > But the GAME is so slow in this mode. But it's realistic. This is not rec.autos.arcade, remember. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

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> >"George M. Smiley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:IyVo6.48$[email hidden]... >> >> "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> > It's a great game once you turn off the speed limiter. Why that >> > was included, I'll never know! >> >> No mystery, just read the included manual. In real life the >> series limits top speed for safety reasons (imagine the forces >> generated when a 5000 kg vehicle running at 240 km/h >> runs into something). > >It is too slow, as a computer game, with the limiter ON. That is why there >is an option to turn it OFF. The mystery is why, when the makers clearly >realized this, did they bother having both options. Who the hell plays at >the limited pace ? > >

because thats how they race in real life? I would imagine that it is a more challenging race if you are limited in top speed. All trucks will have the same top speed, so it is not a case of the *fastest* truck winning, but who ever drives the most skillfully and who uses the best tactics. Of course, some people would probably want F1 sims to have cars which go at Mach 3. - brian

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>>"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote >> So, what does everyone else think? > > >By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every >aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's unfortunate. > > >

Yeah, i suppose thats why it was reduced to �19.99 in a local Electronics Boutique! - brian

What do you expect - it's, errr, TRUCKS... I want to drive racing cars Doug "RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in > <rK_o6.379803$[email hidden]>: > > >>"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote > >> So, what does everyone else think? > > > > > >By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every > >aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's

unfortunate.

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> > > > > > > Yeah, i suppose thats why it was reduced to �19.99 in a local Electronics > Boutique! > > - > brian > >

"ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rK_o6.379803$[email hidden]... > > > By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every > aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's unfortunate. > >Well ,I'd buy it if I could even find it in this sleepy old Ontario town. The demo sold me with its lumbering great trucks sliding around corners. Unfortuneatly the local software stores seem to know nothing about the title. Even the local EB, normally the best in this area, responded to my enquiry with a "Its not on my list, Sir". Is it widely available in QC? Maybe I should do an Ottawa -Hull run. Dave-Erb

This kind of thinking is why many have not found the fun of F3 in GPL. Just cause the speed is not there, does not mean it is not fun. It is even better for racing when all are slower as no one can just walk away with the lead, unless there is an acident. SLG "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> WOW! what an amazing sim Mercedes-Benz truck racing is! >> >> I just wish i had a faster puter to run it on! (currently got a 400mhz >> Celeron. I think a 1.2Ghz Athlon would be nice! Pity i'm skint though) >> >> So, what does everyone else think? > >It's a great game once you turn off the speed limiter. Why that was >included, I'll never know ! And there is a handy benchmark tool thrown in as >a useful bonus. > >

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I would recommend phoning first. They don't have it in Western Canada either :( I suppose it's only released in Europe? Jason. David Erb wrote:

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> > "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:rK_o6.379803$[email hidden]... > > > > > > By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every > > aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's unfortunate. > > > > > Well ,I'd buy it if I could even find it in this sleepy old Ontario town. > Is it widely available in QC? > Maybe I should do an Ottawa -Hull run. > > Dave-Erb

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**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com **** I'd love to tell you what I think, but I haven't figured out how to buy it yet. Is it even released in the US? -Larry "RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> WOW! what an amazing sim Mercedes-Benz truck racing is! > > I just wish i had a faster puter to run it on! (currently got a 400mhz > Celeron. I think a 1.2Ghz Athlon would be nice! Pity i'm skint though) > > So, what does everyone else think? > > - > brian

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> >"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote > > So, what does everyone else think? > > > By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every > aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's unfortunate. > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how > hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. > > >

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Well I picked it up today, but I am having problems running it on my voodoo2 sli without getting either white or psychedelic trucks. Any ideas/tips anyone? -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rK_o6.379803$[email hidden]... | >"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote | > So, what does everyone else think? | | | By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every | aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's unfortunate. | | | | | -- | -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> | -- May the Downforce be with you... | -- http://www.ymenard.com/ | -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how | hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world. | | |

>"David Erb" <[email hidden]> wrote > Is it widely available in QC? > Maybe I should do an Ottawa -Hull run. Yeah I've seen 3-4 stores who had it (Camelot, CD-Rom d�pot, etc..) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- People think it must be fun to be a genius, but they don't realise how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

| Who the hell plays at the limited pace ? I do. Thank U 4 asking -- U. Pechtold Drivin� N3/N4 at http://www.virtual-oval.de home of GNC (German NASCAR Championship) Flyin� 2 EDDS with FS98 :-)

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>>"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote >> So, what does everyone else think? > > >By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every >aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's unfortunate. > >

It is a good game, and looks good even on my lowly 450-k2 with voodoo3 2000. Pity it only has 7 opponents though. Guess that's why it looks good on my system. 8-) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Steve Garrotto) writes: >This kind of thinking is why many have not found the fun of F3 in GPL. >Just cause the speed is not there, does not mean it is not fun. It is >even better for racing when all are slower as no one can just walk >away with the lead, unless there is an acident. > My take on the F3 is this: Sure, it's probably a blast to be dicing with many other cars. But for someone who's off the pace(like me), you're just driving around by yourself. If that's the case, I'd rather be doing it in F1 than F3 - you get *done* quicker...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <rK_o6.379803$[email hidden]>, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>>"RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote >> So, what does everyone else think? > > >By far, 2000 sim of the year. Others can't even touch it on about every >aspect of the sim. Nobody wants to buy it, though and that's unfortunate. >

I haven't seen it in the US yet. If I had, I'd probably buy it. I liked the demo. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I see your point . . . I have been there all to often :-( SLG [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Steve >Garrotto) writes: > >>This kind of thinking is why many have not found the fun of F3 in GPL. >>Just cause the speed is not there, does not mean it is not fun. It is >>even better for racing when all are slower as no one can just walk >>away with the lead, unless there is an acident. >> > >My take on the F3 is this: Sure, it's probably a blast to be dicing with many >other cars. But for someone who's off the pace(like me), you're just driving >around by yourself. If that's the case, I'd rather be doing it in F1 than F3 - >you get *done* quicker...<g> > >Eldred >-- >Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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Gotta hand you that one... the average level in F3 is simply staggering. I'm weird as I'm both slow and enjoy driving the cars, but it does get lonely away from the sharp end. Jan. =--- EldredP wrote...

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> <snip> > My take on the F3 is this: Sure, it's probably a blast to be > dicing with many other cars. But for someone who's off the > pace(like me), you're just driving around by yourself. If > that's the case, I'd rather be doing it in F1 than F3 - you get > *done* quicker...<g> > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then > beats you with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 05:41:31 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote >> But the GAME is so slow in this mode. > >But it's realistic. This is not rec.autos.arcade, remember. Really? Care to define "arcade" for us, Frank? Try this for starters: http://www.simracingnews.com/article.php?page=1&id=26 (insert obligatory non-offensive emoticon here <G>) -- JB

>"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote > Try this for starters: > http://www.simracingnews.com/article.php?page=1&id=26 > > (insert obligatory non-offensive emoticon here <G>) No it's ok, but my definition of arcade upon what we should discuss in this NG is and will always be the newsgroup charter. Unless we need to change it... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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> I'd love to tell you what I think, but I haven't figured out how to buy it > yet. > > Is it even released in the US? > > -Larry > > "RenderedBrian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > WOW! what an amazing sim Mercedes-Benz truck racing is! > > > > I just wish i had a faster puter to run it on! (currently got a 400mhz > > Celeron. I think a 1.2Ghz Athlon would be nice! Pity i'm skint though) > > > > So, what does everyone else think? > > > > - > > brian > > > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > http://www.usenet.com > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >

I've had it since December and since I spend most of my racing online I was disappointed with this aspect of MBTR. If you have cable then it should be ok (56K for me), if you have ever played F12000 online and seen cars in sky etc.. same happens with this game. Apart from that it's a damm good game even if everything happens at slower pace to a normal race car. The AI is scaleable and even on the default 80% setting it'll take a while before you find yourself up to race speed. In the unlimited mode online is probably the most enjoyable.