My mother board and AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1ghz showed up today.
I expect the 256megs of Crucial Cas 2 memory to arrive tomorrow. But I have
a question or two. The heatsink and fan that come with the chip has
a bit of double-sided tape and a couple of brackets to attach it to the cpu.
Does this setup actually work? The mother board has a separate sheet
warning about heat and using Thermal Paste. What should I do? Install
the factory heatsink or gob on some radio shack goo?
dave henrie
Go for the goo!
:)
Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> My mother board and AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1ghz showed up today.
> I expect the 256megs of Crucial Cas 2 memory to arrive tomorrow. But Ihave
> a question or two. The heatsink and fan that come with the chip has
> a bit of double-sided tape and a couple of brackets to attach it to thecpu.
> Does this setup actually work? The mother board has a separate sheet
> warning about heat and using Thermal Paste. What should I do? Install
> the factory heatsink or gob on some radio shack goo?
> dave henrie
>
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 03:44:34 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
Get some thermal paste and remove the tape. Use the goo sparingly too.
Just a thin layer is all that is needed.
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> My mother board and AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1ghz showed up today. >I expect the 256megs of Crucial Cas 2 memory to arrive tomorrow. But I have >a question or two. The heatsink and fan that come with the chip has >a bit of double-sided tape and a couple of brackets to attach it to the cpu. >Does this setup actually work? The mother board has a separate sheet >warning about heat and using Thermal Paste. What should I do? Install >the factory heatsink or gob on some radio shack goo? >dave henrieHey, Dave -- better get that Athlon up and running quick, because I
just passed you in the F1CS2K Rank!
;-)
-- JB
F1CS2K Rank Handicap 59.118
http://f1cs2krank.dhs.org/
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 03:44:34 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
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> My mother board and AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1ghz showed up today. >I expect the 256megs of Crucial Cas 2 memory to arrive tomorrow. But I have >a question or two. The heatsink and fan that come with the chip has >a bit of double-sided tape and a couple of brackets to attach it to the cpu. >Does this setup actually work? The mother board has a separate sheet >warning about heat and using Thermal Paste. What should I do? Install >the factory heatsink or gob on some radio shack goo? >dave henrie >
"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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yeahyeahyeah...I saw that...dogboy! :)
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> Hey, Dave -- better get that Athlon up and running quick, because I > just passed you in the F1CS2K Rank! > > ;-) > > -- JB > F1CS2K Rank Handicap 59.118 > http://f1cs2krank.dhs.org/If you're going to 'overclock' your processor - then try and remove the
stuff that comes on the bottom of the heat sink and replace with something
like "Arctic Silver" - various overclocking stores have it.
Otherwise - just make sure you peel the cover off that tape on the Heatsink,
and be carefull when installing it (try pulling up on the heatsink as you
push down on the metal brakets) Lots of sob-stories about people crushing
the core of the T'bird!
Now that I've scared you enough - enjoy your hardware!
Doug
"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> My mother board and AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1ghz showed up today.
> I expect the 256megs of Crucial Cas 2 memory to arrive tomorrow. But Ihave
> a question or two. The heatsink and fan that come with the chip has
> a bit of double-sided tape and a couple of brackets to attach it to thecpu.
> Does this setup actually work? The mother board has a separate sheet
> warning about heat and using Thermal Paste. What should I do? Install
> the factory heatsink or gob on some radio shack goo?
> dave henrie
>
-"No Sarcasm At All Tom" Wow you know your puters don't ya?-
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe you can build me a puter sometime if your in the NJ area?
{ok now I am being a tad sarcastic. <g> but U do know ur stuff!}
Cheers Thom_j.
"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Dave...
|
| I just finished building one of those rigs.....about 20 days ago. You are
| in for more than a "heat-sink" issue....depending on the mobo (which onedid
| you get?). Sorry I didn't respond to this earlier....I saw this post
| (heading), but I'm having problems with RAS posts not showing the "sender"
| and didn't realize this post was yours.....until it was pointed out to me
| this morning.<snipped for NG space>
MSI(Microstar K7t Turbo(rev 3) I'm worried, the AGP socket looks
dangerously close to the clips that hold the memory sticks. I don't know
if my monster sized V5 will clear the clips.
dave
"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Dave...
>
> I just finished building one of those rigs.....about 20 days ago. You are
> in for more than a "heat-sink" issue....depending on the mobo (which onedid
today
"blow
> hole" fan (I'm using a 120mm blow hole...right next to the vid card). I
> have nearly $300 invested in "fans" for this new race box (including a
> monitor exhaust fan)....all hooked up through a separate fan controllerand
so
find
> (anything under 350 watt ps is not acceptable....with your rig at
> least....and Antec's PP403X - 400 watt power supply is the "swear too" by
> all the computer techies...power supply with a massive 245 watts acrossthe
> +5 V and 3.3V outputs.......they make the best "aftermarket" powersupplies
> in the world......bar none). Make sure you "slit zip" all your ribbon
> straps....you need the best internal case airflow you can get....and this
> new technique is awesome.
>
> **Now....for the nightmare. Depending on the mobo you bought....you willbe
> playing with chipset drivers, BIOS flash, etc. .....to find a "set" that
> works well together. It took me 10-days just to get the system to boot
> cleanly.....and to function properly with the video card drivers (I'm now
> using the 7.52's......I think the 10.50's are a hoax...and I know the7.23's
> are a hoax...be careful). But, once done.....this system screams....and I
> have not OC'd the cpu yet (low 9000 3DMark2000 scores).......1600 x 16 res
> N4 FPS in the 70's to 90's with 42 cars...mid 40's at "starts" from backof
> the field ....I get solid mid 40's running at 2080 x 16 **WITH** 2x2LODFSAA
> (all else the same)....in OpenGl (although at this res....the FSAA isn'tall
3.
> And, it will make an "adequate" race box into an "awesome" race box right
> now! I know you are a 3dfx man......so am I. I had no other video cardin
> my systems for the last 3 or 4 years. But, I have both a V5 and a GF2ULTRA
> (as you know)....and have put both in this new box. Its "nocontest".....in
> favor of the GF 2 ULTRA. And, if you havn't seen Steven Jobs"announcement"
> in Tokyo about a week ago....on the GF3 (with Carmack doing a Doom 3
> demo....in real time on the stage)....then you are about to be blown awayby
> the GF3 specs.
>
> Also......DO NOT install (I'm assuming your installing a new, cleanWindows
> 98SE.....you are aren't you?)....install Win98SE with ACPI. You are going
> to be in a world of hurt if you do.....its possible your new box will
> ***never*** work right.
>
> I'll send you URL's for all the "recommendations" here.....if you aregoing
> this route.....in email. No sense taking up more space on RAS, which isnot
> a computer tech newsgroup. Also, I'll send you the URL's for the three
> "forums" I use....for computer building "help." These guys are awesomeand
> know their stuff backwards and forwards. If they don't, they know whereto
> find the answers for you. Dave...I've built several computers over the
> years......but never on an AMD platform. This was my first....and I'mvery
> glad I pretended as if I'd never built my own system....and didn't assumeI
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> you get?). Sorry I didn't respond to this earlier....I saw this post > (heading), but I'm having problems with RAS posts not showing the "sender" > and didn't realize this post was yours.....until it was pointed out to me > this morning. > > Heat Sink: The stock heat sink is barely adequate.....and not adequate if > you plan on OC'ing the T-Bird. Go ahead and install the stock > HS.....because you don't have a choice at this point. But, you want to > order a better one.....and Swiftech (MC462-A) probably makes the best out > there (but they are back ordered 4 weeks as of now....I just got mineQuoted text (11 lines)
> and I ordered it nearly two weeks before all the rest of the gear for this > new race box). They are not cheap (abot $120 with shipping if I > recall)....and they do not meet AMD's "weight specs" ....but this only > applies to OEM's who must "ship" their computers once constructed. Tom's > Hardware rates the Swiftech (a couple models) "the best there is, short of > liquid cooling"..... > > **While on cooling.....you must adequately "cool" your case. And, > "adequate" is a much bigger thing than I originally thought. You need at > least (this is a minimum)......two exhaust case fans (rear 90mm fans), one > intake case fan (the best cpu cooler you can afford) and at least oneQuoted text (9 lines)
> an internal "case" thermometer gauge (digital) to monitor my case temps > along with cpu temps. Expensive....not if you are looking for > performance...and that's the name of the game when in comes to sim racing. > I buy all my fans from 3dfx Cool....up in Seattle. Its a small "mom and > pop" shop but they constantly search for new and better fans. So, when I > buy from them...I know I'm always getting the best fans, at a reasonable > premium (his case fans are about $1.50 more than others....but they are > quieter and provide more "cfm's" than any I can find on my own). He also > has all the fan controller gear, thermometers, heat sink accessories andQuoted text (7 lines)
> forth. Its a "one stop shop"...and they only sell fans (I've been buying > from 3dfx Cool....since the days of the dual V2 12 megs.....remember how > hard it was to cool those babies....so close together in the box). > > **Case: I hope your are building this rig in a new "full-tower" ATX case > (the case can be as important to this system's performance...as much as > anything else)....and that you've ordered the best power supply you canQuoted text (7 lines)
> that noticeable so I don't run it....for about a 20% hit to FPS...its not > worth it). Make sure you install the new VIA "4 in 1" chipset drivers > (version 4.28*Final)....but you probably already know that. > > Dave....since you'll likely be going to a GF 3.....which we all will (my > best guess at this point).....make the investment now in your case, power > supply and cooling....it will pay huge dividends when you toss in the GFQuoted text (12 lines)
> knew anything. I was lucky. Most of the "old rules of thumb" .....for > building Intel platforms that is.....don't apply. Take your time...build > this rig slowly and with care....and it will kick some major ass. If you > don't, better get plenty of Advil at Costco! > > Regards, > > Tom > > PS: How's the weather up there in Spokane? > >
Dave Henrie wrote:
>
> MSI(Microstar K7t Turbo(rev 3) I'm worried, the AGP socket looks
> dangerously close to the clips that hold the memory sticks. I don't know
> if my monster sized V5 will clear the clips.
It will, but only *just*, so you need to put the memory sticks in before
you add the V5
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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SweetJesusJosephandMary! I'm glad I chickened out and tried to
get the system back up before housecleaning and re-installing windows.
install vid drivers..."can't find xx.file", reinstall sound drivers, "can't
find xx.file"
add all those fancy pci bridge and goofball Via drivers,"missing file"
unbeivable
dave henrie
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> Dave Henrie wrote:
> >
> > MSI(Microstar K7t Turbo(rev 3) I'm worried, the AGP socket looks
> > dangerously close to the clips that hold the memory sticks. I don'tknow
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> > if my monster sized V5 will clear the clips. > > It will, but only *just*, so you need to put the memory sticks in before > you add the V5 > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://members.prestige.net/bttw/teammirage/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com ps..currently running at 52 or 53c. What is the temperature limit? I
think
on my old p3 motherboard it would sound a beeping warning if it got up
to 70 degrees celcius.
dave again
"Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> Dave Henrie wrote:
> >
> > MSI(Microstar K7t Turbo(rev 3) I'm worried, the AGP socket looks
> > dangerously close to the clips that hold the memory sticks. I don'tknow
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> > if my monster sized V5 will clear the clips. > > It will, but only *just*, so you need to put the memory sticks in before > you add the V5 > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > "Team Mirage" http://members.prestige.net/bttw/teammirage/ > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ > > * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * > "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.comOn Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:04:09 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
That's why I'm gald I'm still using a stable BX mb. :-)
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> SweetJesusJosephandMary! I'm glad I chickened out and tried to >get the system back up before housecleaning and re-installing windows. >install vid drivers..."can't find xx.file", reinstall sound drivers, "can't >find xx.file" >add all those fancy pci bridge and goofball Via drivers,"missing file" >unbeivable >dave henrie
Dave Henrie wrote:
>
> ps..currently running at 52 or 53c. What is the temperature limit? I
> think
> on my old p3 motherboard it would sound a beeping warning if it got up
> to 70 degrees celcius.
My T-Bird runs at up to 56c, but I think a "stock" T-Bird or Duron will
run at anything between 45 and 55c depending on the cooler, it runs a
fair bit hotter than your average P3
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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