nascar 4 - d3d or open gl ?

What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got a geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates with open gl, is this what others find as well ?

Same system as you and I also run Open GL -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got a > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates with > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > >

I have a P3-800 with Creative Anniolator Pro (first generations Ge Force DDR). I found that I get much better frame rates in Open GL than Direct X. Make sure you disable "v-sinc" in your Open GL settings. With v-sinc 'on', my frame rates were cut in 1/2. -Paul Western States Racing League www.wsrl.n3.net "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Hdyh6.14297$%[email hidden]...

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> Same system as you and I also run Open GL > > -- > Kevin Anderson > [email hidden] > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got a > > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates with > > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > > > > > >

But when I disable my vsync I get stutters and weird graphic glitches like my car sinking into the turns.... Any suggestions?????? "Paul E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have a P3-800 with Creative Anniolator Pro (first generations Ge Force > DDR). I found that I get much better frame rates in Open GL than DirectX. > Make sure you disable "v-sinc" in your Open GL settings. With v-sinc'on',

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> my frame rates were cut in 1/2. > > > -Paul > Western States Racing League > www.wsrl.n3.net > > > "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Hdyh6.14297$%[email hidden]... > > Same system as you and I also run Open GL > > > > -- > > Kevin Anderson > > [email hidden] > > > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got

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And how do you optimise the OpenGL settings so that it looks as good as D3D? Or do we just live with the inferior, more pixellated look to get the higher frame rates? Marc. "Paul E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have a P3-800 with Creative Anniolator Pro (first generations Ge Force > DDR). I found that I get much better frame rates in Open GL than DirectX. > Make sure you disable "v-sinc" in your Open GL settings. With v-sinc'on',

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> my frame rates were cut in 1/2. > > > -Paul > Western States Racing League > www.wsrl.n3.net > > > "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Hdyh6.14297$%[email hidden]... > > Same system as you and I also run Open GL > > > > -- > > Kevin Anderson > > [email hidden] > > > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got

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my Viper V770 ultra runs much better on D3D than it does openGL. I was surprised that my 533 coppermine is running N4 as well as it does. with just debris and smoke on and 25 cars on the track, i rarely see the framerate drop below 20. I do see myself upgrading reaaaaaal soon though Congrats to Papy on a great game so far. My only observation so far if the same as the rest, slightly buggy AI under certain tracks. That and making my 533 look more like the dinosaur it has become. Oh well, im rambling on, time fer lunch and a beer before the shootout. See ya

Open gl, 16 bit, vsynch and fsaa off. -- Don Burnette "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got a > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates with > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > >

If you have the horsepower, could enable fsaa which would help, most folks aren't going to have that kind of hp today I think. For now, I prefer opengl for the performance increase versus the smoother graphics in d3d. -- Don Burnette "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ykzh6.94526$[email hidden]... > And how do you optimise the OpenGL settings so that it looks as good as D3D? > Or do we just live with the inferior, more pixellated look to get the higher > frame rates? > > Marc. > > "Paul E" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I have a P3-800 with Creative Anniolator Pro (first generations Ge Force > > DDR). I found that I get much better frame rates in Open GL than Direct > X. > > Make sure you disable "v-sinc" in your Open GL settings. With v-sinc > 'on', > > my frame rates were cut in 1/2. > > > > > > -Paul > > Western States Racing League > > www.wsrl.n3.net > > > > > > "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:Hdyh6.14297$%[email hidden]... > > > Same system as you and I also run Open GL > > > > > > -- > > > Kevin Anderson > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got > a > > > > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates > with > > > > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello, You get better performance out of OpenGL, but I find (for my taste) the degraded graphics in OpenGL vs D3D is too high. I run N4 in D3D and although its a performance hit, its not huge. The graphics are just much, much smoother in D3D. Alot of people are making the mistake of having 24 sounds being heard and that effects performance as well. I think 10 to 12 is more than enough for most people. -- Scott B. Husted "Profit" ICQ# 4395450 "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got a > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates with > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > >

"MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got a > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates with > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > > Yep. Jerry Morelock

"Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Ykzh6.94526$[email hidden]... > And how do you optimise the OpenGL settings so that it looks as good asD3D? > Or do we just live with the inferior, more pixellated look to get thehigher > frame rates? > > Marc. > Not that much diff between the two on my system--crowds in the stands may look a little better in D3D but who cares about that? Jerry Morelock

Me 2. Paul E <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I have a P3-800 with Creative Anniolator Pro (first generations Ge Force > DDR). I found that I get much better frame rates in Open GL than DirectX. > Make sure you disable "v-sinc" in your Open GL settings. With v-sinc'on',

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> my frame rates were cut in 1/2. > > > -Paul > Western States Racing League > www.wsrl.n3.net > > > "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Hdyh6.14297$%[email hidden]... > > Same system as you and I also run Open GL > > > > -- > > Kevin Anderson > > [email hidden] > > > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got

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Yes, D3D looks better (particularly the color saturation), but the performance hit is unconscionable on my K7-900. --Steve Scott B. Husted <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Hello, > > You get better performance out of OpenGL, but I find (for my taste) the > degraded graphics in OpenGL vs D3D is too high. I run N4 in D3D and > although its a performance hit, its not huge. The graphics are just much, > much smoother in D3D. > > Alot of people are making the mistake of having 24 sounds being heard and > that effects performance as well. I think 10 to 12 is more than enough

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> most people. > -- > Scott B. Husted > "Profit" > ICQ# 4395450 > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got a > > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates with > > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > > > > > >

I'm looking at 6 to 10 on my P3-900 system with an ASUS V7700 GeForce2 GTS 32mb card. However, I gained those fps back by upgrading to Direct X 8a as DX8 was causing me all kinds of problems. -- Scott B. Husted PA-Scott The Pits: PowerSims Magazine (http://www.theuspits.com) Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8gXh6.39628$[email hidden]... > Yes, D3D looks better (particularly the color saturation), but the > performance hit is unconscionable on my K7-900. > > --Steve > > Scott B. Husted <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hello, > > > > You get better performance out of OpenGL, but I find (for my taste) the > > degraded graphics in OpenGL vs D3D is too high. I run N4 in D3D and > > although its a performance hit, its not huge. The graphics are just much, > > much smoother in D3D. > > > > Alot of people are making the mistake of having 24 sounds being heard and > > that effects performance as well. I think 10 to 12 is more than enough > for > > most people. > > -- > > Scott B. Husted > > "Profit" > > ICQ# 4395450 > > > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've got a > > > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates with > > > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > > > > > > > > > > > >

Scott, I dodged that particular bullet by avoiding DX8 *and* DX8a. As has been noted, um, in these rooms, you don't have to install DX8/8a to run N4, Sierra's stern admonitions to the contrary notwithstanding. --Steve Smith Scott B. Husted <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CPXh6.804$[email hidden]... > I'm looking at 6 to 10 on my P3-900 system with an ASUS V7700 GeForce2 GTS > 32mb card. However, I gained those fps back by upgrading to Direct X 8aas

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> DX8 was causing me all kinds of problems. > > -- > Scott B. Husted > PA-Scott > The Pits: PowerSims Magazine (http://www.theuspits.com) > > > Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8gXh6.39628$[email hidden]... > > Yes, D3D looks better (particularly the color saturation), but the > > performance hit is unconscionable on my K7-900. > > > > --Steve > > > > Scott B. Husted <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hello, > > > > > > You get better performance out of OpenGL, but I find (for my taste)

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> > > degraded graphics in OpenGL vs D3D is too high. I run N4 in D3D and > > > although its a performance hit, its not huge. The graphics are just > much, > > > much smoother in D3D. > > > > > > Alot of people are making the mistake of having 24 sounds being heard > and > > > that effects performance as well. I think 10 to 12 is more than

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> > for > > > most people. > > > -- > > > Scott B. Husted > > > "Profit" > > > ICQ# 4395450 > > > > > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've

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Thanks Steve. I am actually happy with DX8a. It seems to be working well and my stability is back to normal. Well, as normal as Windows 98SE can be ;) -- Scott B. Husted "PA-Scott" ICQ# 4395450 "Stephen Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Mu%h6.127068$[email hidden]... > Scott, > > I dodged that particular bullet by avoiding DX8 *and* DX8a. As has been > noted, um, in these rooms, you don't have to install DX8/8a to run N4, > Sierra's stern admonitions to the contrary notwithstanding. > > --Steve Smith > > Scott B. Husted <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CPXh6.804$[email hidden]... > > I'm looking at 6 to 10 on my P3-900 system with an ASUS V7700 GeForce2 GTS > > 32mb card. However, I gained those fps back by upgrading to Direct X 8a > as > > DX8 was causing me all kinds of problems. > > > > -- > > Scott B. Husted > > PA-Scott > > The Pits: PowerSims Magazine (http://www.theuspits.com) > > > > > > Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:8gXh6.39628$[email hidden]... > > > Yes, D3D looks better (particularly the color saturation), but the > > > performance hit is unconscionable on my K7-900. > > > > > > --Steve > > > > > > Scott B. Husted <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > You get better performance out of OpenGL, but I find (for my taste) > the > > > > degraded graphics in OpenGL vs D3D is too high. I run N4 in D3D and > > > > although its a performance hit, its not huge. The graphics are just > > much, > > > > much smoother in D3D. > > > > > > > > Alot of people are making the mistake of having 24 sounds being heard > > and > > > > that effects performance as well. I think 10 to 12 is more than > enough > > > for > > > > most people. > > > > -- > > > > Scott B. Husted > > > > "Profit" > > > > ICQ# 4395450 > > > > > > > > "MJS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > What are people using and whats getting the best performance. I've > got > > a > > > > > geforce 256 ddr with an athlon 650. I seem to get better framerates > > with > > > > > open gl, is this what others find as well ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >