N4 & ATI Is this my problem?

I thought my problem was the "copy protection" everyone was complaining about....now I don't think so. It would hang up at the main menu and either totally lock up the system or kick the game completely off. Finally tried the Direct 3d for dedicated servers setting.....managed to get in far enough to set up and calibrate my wheel and even select some graphics options. Still cannot actually drive. There was NO PICTURE in server mode but I could hear that I was driving and ramming things in the pits. Went back to "configure 3D Graphics" and re-set it for normal Direct 3D. Now I can get as far as loading a track but still get kicked out when attempting to actually drive. Here's my system: PIII 600 on a SOYO 6BA+ main board 192 MB PC100 RAM Win 98 ATI All in Wonder Pro AGP x2 w/8 MB SGRAM (possible problem??) Creative Labs 48x CDROM (Loaded game from this one) Creative Labs 4224 CDRW Anyone got any ideas on how to get this thing to drive....???? Thanks Doug B. (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)

Your video card is almost certainly the problem - are you running the latest drivers available for the card? Are you running D3D or OpenGL - if the latter, be aware that ATI is notorious for flakey drivers, particularly their OpenGL drivers. You might want to look at a GeForce2 MX for a good inexpensive upgrade that would greatly improve N4 performance, even if you get the ATI working. Rick

I think that it's defenitly the ATI card. I've been trying to run N4 on an AT Rage Fury Maxx 64 meg card. I keep getting the complete lock of my system, while trying to run in D3D. When I switch over to OpenGL the game doesnt lock, but it runs slower, and look real bad. I get no locks what so ever when running D3D on my Voodoo 2 12 meg, but obviously it runs like a dog. Thanks ATI!!!!!!

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>Subject: Re: N4 & ATI Is this my problem? >From: "Rick Baumhauer" [email hidden] >Date: 02/10/2001 6:54 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <964kbd$j44m7$[email hidden]> > >Your video card is almost certainly the problem - are you running the latest >drivers available for the card? Are you running D3D or OpenGL - if the >latter, be aware that ATI is notorious for flakey drivers, particularly >their OpenGL drivers. > >You might want to look at a GeForce2 MX for a good inexpensive upgrade that >would greatly improve N4 performance, even if you get the ATI working. > >Rick > >

I'm kind of hooked with the All-in-wonder PRO due to the built in tv tuner...the driver I'm running is a special purpose driver ATI came up with to solve problems they had which kept N3 from running in hardware acceleration mode. Tried setting it for OpenGL but that locked things up even configuring it. I would settle for the equivilant of "software mode" like I had to use for so long in N3 at least till I can come up with a better solution.....unfortunately this doesn't seem to be an option with N4. Suppose I could pop for the RAEDON All in wonder but I'm not sure about investing that kind of money back into an ATI product. Still open to suggestions on what to do. Thanks Doug (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)

>Suppose I could pop for the RAEDON All in wonder but I'm not sure about >investing that kind of money back into an ATI product. I've considered the same thing. I read somplace that a RAEDON will only cost about $160, if you send your old card to ATI, and get some sort of rebate. Personally I won't be going with anymore ATI cards, my Rage Fury Maxx is the last. When WSC comes out, I'm getting a whole new system, so I'm waiting until then to change cards.

Doug, The Radeon seems to be a very good card - probably the fastest available outside of a GeForce2 Ultra. Hardware sites are still keeping an eye on driver development (ATI's historical weakness), but the card seems fundamentally sound. Take a look at http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1302&p=1 for more info on the Radeon All-in-Wonder. Rick "PHYDEAUX99" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I'm kind of hooked with the All-in-wonder PRO due to the built in tv > tuner...the driver I'm running is a special purpose driver ATI came upwith to > solve problems they had which kept N3 from running in hardwareacceleration > mode. Tried setting it for OpenGL but that locked things up evenconfiguring > it. I would settle for the equivilant of "software mode" like I had touse for

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> so long in N3 at least till I can come up with a better > solution.....unfortunately this doesn't seem to be an option with N4. > > Suppose I could pop for the RAEDON All in wonder but I'm not sure about > investing that kind of money back into an ATI product. > > Still open to suggestions on what to do. > > Thanks > Doug

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>Subject: Re: N4 & ATI Is this my problem? >From: [email hidden] (PHendrix27) >Date: 02/10/2001 9:25 PM Eastern Standard Time >Message-id: <[email hidden]> > >>Suppose I could pop for the RAEDON All in wonder but I'm not sure about >>investing that kind of money back into an ATI product. > > >I've considered the same thing. I read somplace that a RAEDON will only cost >about $160, if you send your old card to ATI, and get some sort of rebate. >Personally I won't be going with anymore ATI cards, my Rage Fury Maxx is the >last. When WSC comes out, I'm getting a whole new system, so I'm waiting >until >then to change cards. > >

WSC???? What's that??? (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)

I don't have N4, so take this for whatever it's worth. I'm also hooked on the ATI All-in-Wonder for it's TV capabilities, but I don't use it for any racing sims. I have 2 Voodoo2's in SLI mode for that. This set-up works fine for everything _so far_ -- GPL, F1CS, GP3, N3, etc. I'm not sure how it would handle N4, although the demo ran fine (only 1 car on screen though). You might have problems finding a V2 (or two) now, but they're pretty cheap. Just an idea.... PHYDEAUX99 wrote:

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> >Subject: Re: N4 & ATI Is this my problem? > >From: "Rick Baumhauer" [email hidden] > >Date: 02/10/2001 6:54 PM Eastern Standard Time > >Message-id: <964kbd$j44m7$[email hidden]> > > > >Your video card is almost certainly the problem - are you running the latest > >drivers available for the card? Are you running D3D or OpenGL - if the > >latter, be aware that ATI is notorious for flakey drivers, particularly > >their OpenGL drivers. > > > >You might want to look at a GeForce2 MX for a good inexpensive upgrade that > >would greatly improve N4 performance, even if you get the ATI working. > > > >Rick > > > > > > I'm kind of hooked with the All-in-wonder PRO due to the built in tv > tuner...the driver I'm running is a special purpose driver ATI came up with to > solve problems they had which kept N3 from running in hardware acceleration > mode. Tried setting it for OpenGL but that locked things up even configuring > it. I would settle for the equivilant of "software mode" like I had to use for > so long in N3 at least till I can come up with a better > solution.....unfortunately this doesn't seem to be an option with N4. > > Suppose I could pop for the RAEDON All in wonder but I'm not sure about > investing that kind of money back into an ATI product. > > Still open to suggestions on what to do. > > Thanks > Doug > > (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)

-- Bert

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The ATI card blows. Try a V5 5500. -- [email hidden] "PHYDEAUX99" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I thought my problem was the "copy protection" everyone was complaining > about....now I don't think so. > > It would hang up at the main menu and either totally lock up the system or kick > the game completely off. > > Finally tried the Direct 3d for dedicated servers setting.....managed to get in > far enough to set up and calibrate my wheel and even select some graphics > options. Still cannot actually drive. There was NO PICTURE in server mode but > I could hear that I was driving and ramming things in the pits. Went back to > "configure 3D Graphics" and re-set it for normal Direct 3D. Now I can get as > far as loading a track but still get kicked out when attempting to actually > drive. > > Here's my system: > > PIII 600 on a SOYO 6BA+ main board > 192 MB PC100 RAM > Win 98 > ATI All in Wonder Pro AGP x2 w/8 MB SGRAM (possible problem??) > Creative Labs 48x CDROM (Loaded game from this one) > Creative Labs 4224 CDRW > > Anyone got any ideas on how to get this thing to drive....???? > > Thanks > > Doug B. > > (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail) >