[OT] F1 vs. Drag Car Performance

I'm hoping someone here can settle a bet... I recall years back reading about the Bennetton (ca. 1986) F1 doing 0-100MPH and back in some staggering amount of time (9 secs?). Does anyone know how fast F1 cars will do a 1/4 mile? Has it ever been clocked? Please help me teach the straight-line boy a lesson. Thanks, Glenn

2000 Jaguar R1: 9.03 seconds @ 181.0 mph. 2000 Ferrari F1-2000: 9.00 seconds @ 187.02 mph. -- Remove "688." to reply. "Glenn Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YI6b6.348475$[email hidden]... > I'm hoping someone here can settle a bet... > > I recall years back reading about the Bennetton (ca. 1986) F1 doing 0-100MPH > and back in some staggering amount of time (9 secs?). Does anyone know how > fast F1 cars will do a 1/4 mile? Has it ever been clocked? Please help me > teach the straight-line boy a lesson. > > Thanks, > > Glenn > > >

Thanks Geoff. G. "Geoff Crim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AV6b6.160225$[email hidden]...

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> 2000 Jaguar R1: 9.03 seconds @ 181.0 mph. > 2000 Ferrari F1-2000: 9.00 seconds @ 187.02 mph. > > > -- > Remove "688." to reply. > "Glenn Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YI6b6.348475$[email hidden]... > > I'm hoping someone here can settle a bet... > > > > I recall years back reading about the Bennetton (ca. 1986) F1 doing > 0-100MPH > > and back in some staggering amount of time (9 secs?). Does anyone know > how > > fast F1 cars will do a 1/4 mile? Has it ever been clocked? Please help > me > > teach the straight-line boy a lesson. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > >

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> "Geoff Crim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:AV6b6.160225$[email hidden]... > > 2000 Jaguar R1: 9.03 seconds @ 181.0 mph. > > 2000 Ferrari F1-2000: 9.00 seconds @ 187.02 mph. > > > > > > -- > > Remove "688." to reply. > > "Glenn Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:YI6b6.348475$[email hidden]... > > > I'm hoping someone here can settle a bet... > > > > > > I recall years back reading about the Bennetton (ca. 1986) F1 doing > > 0-100MPH > > > and back in some staggering amount of time (9 secs?). Does anyone know > > how > > > fast F1 cars will do a 1/4 mile? Has it ever been clocked? Please help > > me > > > teach the straight-line boy a lesson.

A lesson? Don't get too excited ;) All the drag racing fan will learn is that it takes an F1 car over 9 seconds to go a quarter mile reaching 180 some miles an hour. He probably already knows that the national records for drag racing the quarter mile are 4.480 sec and 326.91 mph, for ET and speed, respectively. As for slowing, they do around 2.5 G's without even using the parachutes or the brakes ;) - Matt

Thanks to all for their input. My co-worker runs a street stock @ 8.33. I didn't presume to beat him, just show him an F1 car was close. On top speed in the 1/4 it is much faster I see. Thanks again, Glenn "Glenn Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YI6b6.348475$[email hidden]... > I'm hoping someone here can settle a bet... > > I recall years back reading about the Bennetton (ca. 1986) F1 doing0-100MPH > and back in some staggering amount of time (9 secs?). Does anyone knowhow > fast F1 cars will do a 1/4 mile? Has it ever been clocked? Please helpme

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> teach the straight-line boy a lesson. > > Thanks, > > Glenn > > >

In article <AV6b6.160225$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > 2000 Jaguar R1: 9.03 seconds @ 181.0 mph. > 2000 Ferrari F1-2000: 9.00 seconds @ 187.02 mph. BTW, according to a CART/IRL test in Popular Mechanics, 1998 CART machine did the 1/4 in 9.3 at 165.5 mph. Zanardi had real trouble getting enough heat in the tires for proper traction though (he was fighting for traction during the entire 1/4 mile), so perhaps faster times were possible with heated tires. Here's the link: http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/auto2/9806AUTKAM.html I'd love to know what a 2000 CART vehicle could do. Of course, all non-drag racing series have rules that slow the cars down to a certain extent, so these stats don't prove anything. It still interesting though, particularly in comparison to street car stats. Jim

The problem the Formula One car has is it wasnt meant to accelerate from a dead stop, it was meant to accelerate from 60-100mph out of a corner. They fight for traction while accelerating until they get enough traction via downforce. Ill bet the F1 car accelerates harder from 60mph to 150mph than your buddies street stock. Jack SmashF2 - GplRank +113 "Glenn Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Vqdb6.350910$[email hidden]... > Thanks to all for their input. My co-worker runs a street stock @ 8.33.I > didn't presume to beat him, just show him an F1 car was close. On topspeed

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> in the 1/4 it is much faster I see. > > Thanks again, > > Glenn > > "Glenn Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YI6b6.348475$[email hidden]... > > I'm hoping someone here can settle a bet... > > > > I recall years back reading about the Bennetton (ca. 1986) F1 doing > 0-100MPH > > and back in some staggering amount of time (9 secs?). Does anyone know > how > > fast F1 cars will do a 1/4 mile? Has it ever been clocked? Please help > me > > teach the straight-line boy a lesson. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Glenn > > > > > > > >

"rrevved" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:58:06 GMT, "Matthew V. Jessick" <[email hidden]>wrote: > > > Hehe.. also, the drag fan will tell him that his uncle's > Pro Stock that he helped him build out back will smoke > the zillion dollar F1 in the 1/4 mile.. >Yes but make that a 1/4 mile bend and see what wins ;)

In article <MPG.14d75fdf3c7446cd989681@news>, Jim <[email hidden]> writes: >Here's the link: >http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/auto2/9806AUTKAM.html Cool story - thanks! Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL F1 hcp. +28.80...F2 +151.26...F3 hcp. +373.73 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

As I recall the benetton ran about a 8.9sec 148 mph trap thru the quarter mile, which is pretty good. But top fuel dragsters routinely run 4.5 sec 330mph quarters with over 5000 Horsepower, which is a whole different magnitude of acceleration. They can even out accelerate fighter jets being launched with steam catapults from aircraft carriers from 0 to 300mph. These cars are the only ones that look awesome fast on a TV screen, where Cart and F1 cars look almost like they are cruising sometimes at 200 plus MPH.

I was pondering your question a bit more and it occurred to me just how amazing the acceleration of a totally stock off the showroom floor street motorcyle is these days. These relatively mildly tuned 35 MPG street bikes ( Suzuki Hayabusa 1300) and ( Kawasaki zx12) ran high 9 second 144mph quarter miles, and over 192mph top speed, for less than the price of a subcompact car. Also, the Kawasaki ZX12 was detuned from the original bike Kawasaki intended to release due to european legislation banning 200 plus MPH motorcycles, and the prereleased ZX12 reportedly tested at 9.5 sec 150 MPH quarter mile and over 200mph top speed. Thats about as close as most of us can afford to getting the feel of acceleration of a f1 car.

I think I read the *same* article that you read, but I think the 0-100mph time was more like 3.0 or 3.1 seconds. The reason I remember this is that it was my first real indicator of the level of performance these cars attain. -- Philip D'Amato [email hidden] 00 ZX-6R 00 S4 "Glenn Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YI6b6.348475$[email hidden]... > I'm hoping someone here can settle a bet... > > I recall years back reading about the Bennetton (ca. 1986) F1 doing 0-100MPH > and back in some staggering amount of time (9 secs?). Does anyone know how > fast F1 cars will do a 1/4 mile? Has it ever been clocked? Please help me > teach the straight-line boy a lesson. > > Thanks, > > Glenn > > >

With the right rider (not me), my slow 600cc ZX-6R does high 10s or low 11s, topping out at just under 160mph. I speak with some experience. All this for <8k. The only problem is that it sits in my garage lonely and dejected while the snow is on the ground and the weather drops below 40F (that when the Audi fills in). Stock modern sportbikes have no (stock or near-stock) equivalent on the streets as far as zero to (say for example) 100mph acceleration. At the very top end, then you may see some high performance sportscars starting to gain ground on you. If you want to do a comparison that factors in $$, then there is nothing that comes close on the street, and few (if anything) on the track. Incidentally, given twisty roads and good drivers/riders in a properly setup sportscar vs a properly setup sportbike, the car has the (significant) traction advantage and will outperform going into the apex of a turn. Post-apex, the sportbike will accelerate away. But I digress... -- Philip D'Amato [email hidden] 00 ZX-6R 00 S4 "Loosay2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I was pondering your question a bit more and it occurred to me just how amazing > the acceleration of a totally stock off the showroom floor street motorcyle is > these days. These relatively mildly tuned 35 MPG street bikes ( Suzuki Hayabusa > 1300) and ( Kawasaki zx12) ran high 9 second 144mph quarter miles, and over > 192mph top speed, for less than the price of a subcompact car. Also, the > Kawasaki ZX12 was detuned from the original bike Kawasaki intended to release > due to european legislation banning 200 plus MPH motorcycles, and the > prereleased ZX12 reportedly tested at 9.5 sec 150 MPH quarter mile and over > 200mph top speed. > Thats about as close as most of us can afford to getting the feel of > acceleration of a f1 car.