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Sims that use a Clutch Pedal?

21 posts by 17 people · 09 Oct 2000 23:01 UTC - 16 Oct 2000 00:37 UTC

Which sims support a clutch pedal

A user who built a clutch pedal for his TSW wheel asked which sims used one. Replies listed GPL, NASCAR Heat, Viper Racing and GP3, with debate over whether a pedal clutch was realistic for modern F1. Users disagreed on whether GPL's clutch was analog, with one explaining it simulates an abrupt racing clutch.

hardware: wheels/pedalsGrand Prix LegendsGrand Prix 3NASCAR Heat

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Mick 09 Oct 2000 23:01 UTC#227143
Hey, I've just finished making a clutch pedal add-on for my old TSW. Now all I need is a sim that uses a clutch ;-) What do you guys recommend? I've been out of the loop for a while now. (Nascar2 and TEN where my last sim experiences..) Thanks for any info. Mick
Jason Monds 10 Oct 2000#227043
Nascar Heat (same guys that made Viper) Jason. Jah_Warrior86 wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> Viper Racing can make use of it as far as I know > > -- > Jah_Warrior86 > > Mick <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hey, > > I've just finished making a clutch pedal add-on for my old TSW. Now all > > I need is a sim that uses a clutch ;-) What do you guys recommend? I've > > been out of the loop for a while now. (Nascar2 and TEN where my last sim > > experiences..) Thanks for any info. > > Mick
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> That's realistic. It's been how many years since F1 cars used a pedal for > the clutch? Stupid. It *IS* realistic that you can activate a manual clutch in GP3. You don't have to use a pedal, any device will do.
Stuart Becktell 10 Oct 2000 00:36 UTC#227167
GPL and Nascar Heat both use the clutch, but in NH you don't need it that badly. -Stuart Becktell "Mick" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hey, > I've just finished making a clutch pedal add-on for my old TSW. Now all > I need is a sim that uses a clutch ;-) What do you guys recommend? I've > been out of the loop for a while now. (Nascar2 and TEN where my last sim > experiences..) Thanks for any info. > Mick
friendly pysco 10 Oct 2000 03:19 UTC#227153
Viper Racing can make use of it as far as I know -- Jah_Warrior86 Mick <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hey, > I've just finished making a clutch pedal add-on for my old TSW. Now all > I need is a sim that uses a clutch ;-) What do you guys recommend? I've > been out of the loop for a while now. (Nascar2 and TEN where my last sim > experiences..) Thanks for any info. > Mick
mike 10 Oct 2000 05:53 UTC#227184
Add GP3 to the list....... "Jah_Warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jVvE5.12070$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> Viper Racing can make use of it as far as I know > > > -- > Jah_Warrior86 > > > Mick <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Hey, > > I've just finished making a clutch pedal add-on for my old TSW. Now all > > I need is a sim that uses a clutch ;-) What do you guys recommend? I've > > been out of the loop for a while now. (Nascar2 and TEN where my last sim > > experiences..) Thanks for any info. > > Mick > >
AndrewS 10 Oct 2000 13:23 UTC↳ reply to mike#227215
That's realistic. It's been how many years since F1 cars used a pedal for the clutch? "mike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:b9yE5.432369$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> > Add GP3 to the list....... > > > "Jah_Warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jVvE5.12070$[email hidden]... > > Viper Racing can make use of it as far as I know > > > > > > -- > > Jah_Warrior86 > > > > > > Mick <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Hey, > > > I've just finished making a clutch pedal add-on for my old TSW. Now
all > > > I need is a sim that uses a clutch ;-) What do you guys recommend?I've > > > been out of the loop for a while now. (Nascar2 and TEN where my lastsim > > > experiences..) Thanks for any info. > > > Mick > > > > > >
mike 10 Oct 2000 16:17 UTC↳ reply to mike#227232
I use the clutch pedal in GP3 for 2 things. Starts. rev it up and drop the clutch, and when I spin, pop the clutch and spin it around.... You don't have to use it for shifting, but it's still active for the other fun... heh. "Chris Liddell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:U_GE5.2263$[email hidden]... > > AndrewS <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:OLEE5.6503$[email hidden]... > > That's realistic. It's been how many years since F1 cars used a pedalfor
Quoted text (10 lines)> > the clutch? > > > > > > About 2.5? I think Damon Hill and a couple of other people still used foot > clutches in '98 - only for the start and pit-stops, of course! > > Chris > >
AndrewS <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OLEE5.6503$[email hidden]... > That's realistic. It's been how many years since F1 cars used a pedal for > the clutch? > > About 2.5? I think Damon Hill and a couple of other people still used foot clutches in '98 - only for the start and pit-stops, of course! Chris
Stuart Becktell <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VvtE5.289$%[email hidden]... > GPL and Nascar Heat both use the clutch, but in NH you don't need it that > badly. Neither do you in GPL if yo want to go any bit fast at all :-) Unfortunaly a 5% race distance is pushing it.
AndrewS 10 Oct 2000 23:55 UTC↳ reply to mike#227064
Stupid. The question was basically in reference to which games support a clutch pedal, not necessarily a clutch. It's great the GP3 supports a manual clutch, but it would be more realistic if the clutch was implemented as a button on the wheel, not a pedal. "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8rvcra$g4g$05$[email hidden]... > > That's realistic. It's been how many years since F1 cars used a pedalfor > > the clutch? > > Stupid. It *IS* realistic that you can activate a manual clutch in GP3.You > don't have to use a pedal, any device will do. > >
Actually, an analog paddle on the wheel would be more appropriate. Some wheels (Guillemot?) have switched gearchange paddles, and also analog gas and brake paddles if you don't want to use the foot pedals. Perhaps it would be possible to configure one as the clutch. Stephen AndrewS <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:50OE5.6822$X%[email hidden]... > Stupid. The question was basically in reference to which games support a > clutch pedal, not necessarily a clutch. It's great the GP3 supports a > manual clutch, but it would be more realistic if the clutch wasimplemented
Quoted text (15 lines)> as a button on the wheel, not a pedal. > > "Alexander Marx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8rvcra$g4g$05$[email hidden]... > > > That's realistic. It's been how many years since F1 cars used a pedal > for > > > the clutch? > > > > Stupid. It *IS* realistic that you can activate a manual clutch in GP3. > You > > don't have to use a pedal, any device will do. > > > > > >
AndrewS wrote: > > Stupid. The question was basically in reference to which games support a > clutch pedal, not necessarily a clutch. It's great the GP3 supports a > manual clutch, but it would be more realistic if the clutch was implemented > as a button on the wheel, not a pedal. > That just depends on your setup. I have a Thrustmaster Sprint wheel and with some persuasion the analog paddles on the wheel can be assigned as a clutch. It's really awesome in GP3! -Gregor
> Stupid. The question was basically in reference to which games support a > clutch pedal, not necessarily a clutch. But GP3 supports a clutch whether it's on the floor or up your anus (provided it's connected). A clutch is a clutch, the PC doesn't know where it's located. > It's great the GP3 supports a > manual clutch, but it would be more realistic if the clutch wasimplemented > as a button on the wheel, not a pedal. Not at all, F1 cars use an analogue clutch paddle, so why not have an analogue paddle on your sim wheel, which, I think, would be highly realistic. Andy -- Visit my site... http://mail.wm-europe.com/~andrew/ Read about my Mini... http://mail.wm-europe.com/~andrew/mini/ Use console pads on a PC ... http://www.consolepads.co.uk Music videos and DC games ... http://mail.wm-europe.com/~andrew/ftp.html
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:16:11 +0100, "Some Call Me Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>GPL of course. > >Some Call Me Tim > > > >
anyone use one on gpl, if so when do you use, is it analog and how easy to use ? Cheers Rich ps is there are a set of pedals available with a clutch that i can hook straight into a force -rs ?
It's digital. Can be assigned to an axis, but it's either ON or OFF. Other than starts, it's rather worthless. But the main problem with clutch pedals is that... I have yet to see a pedal setup that supports heel-toe shifting. I have the SRC wheel which has top hinged pedals, but the brake and gas pedals are not staggered. So if I can't toe-heel, then I might as well not use a clutch. "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (22 lines)> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:16:11 +0100, "Some Call Me Tim" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >GPL of course. > > > >Some Call Me Tim > > > > > > > > > > anyone use one on gpl, if so when do you use, is it analog and how > easy to use ? > > Cheers > > Rich > > ps is there are a set of pedals available with a clutch that i can > hook straight into a force -rs ? > >
Woodie 83 14 Oct 2000#226617
In article <[email hidden]>, Mick <[email hidden]> writes: >Hey, > I've just finished making a clutch pedal add-on for my old TSW. Now all >I need is a sim that uses a clutch ;-) What do you guys recommend? I've >been out of the loop for a while now. (Nascar2 and TEN where my last sim >experiences..) Thanks for any info. >Mick I just installed a clutch on my ECCI CDS4000. I've only used it on GPL so far, but my question is, should it be so abrupt? I expected a more gradual engagement, it seems as if it engages within about two millimeters of pedal travel, hardluy enough motion for proper modulation. Don McCorkle
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Dolle Dolf) writes:
Quoted text (9 lines)>>I just installed a clutch on my ECCI CDS4000. I've only used it on GPL so >>far, but my question is, should it be so abrupt? I expected a more gradual >>engagement, it seems as if it engages within about two millimeters of pedal >>travel, hardluy enough motion for proper modulation. >> >> > >That is becuz it still acts llike a button in GPL, on or off, as >opposed to an axis.
Really? Bummer, I thought it was analog. Don McCorkle
Dolle Dolf 15 Oct 2000 03:22 UTC#226506
On 14 Oct 2000 12:36:56 GMT, [email hidden] (Woodie 83) wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)>In article <[email hidden]>, >Mick <[email hidden]> writes: > >>Hey, >> I've just finished making a clutch pedal add-on for my old TSW. Now all >>I need is a sim that uses a clutch ;-) What do you guys recommend? I've >>been out of the loop for a while now. (Nascar2 and TEN where my last sim >>experiences..) Thanks for any info. >>Mick > >I just installed a clutch on my ECCI CDS4000. I've only used it on GPL so far, >but my question is, should it be so abrupt? I expected a more gradual >engagement, it seems as if it engages within about two millimeters of pedal >travel, hardluy enough motion for proper modulation. > >
That is becuz it still acts llike a button in GPL, on or off, as opposed to an axis. >Don McCorkle >
Actually the clutch is analog in GPL, however it is no as progressive as you family car. Bare in mind GPL has a racing clutch coded and racing clutches are quick acting and strong. My friend has a Ford Sierra/Cosworth RS500 with a racing clutch in it and I found it difficult to drive around town due to the hard biting clutch. However getting off the mark at the light posed no problems. With my RRC pedal units the clutch in GPL is progressive to the point that I can gently let out the clutch under high RPM and the car slowly starts to move off while the engine takes the load. In practice however I just dump the clutch on the start grid. Nigel -- Redline Race Controls http://www.wave.co.nz/pages/lakewood/Redline2.htm Nigel of Lakewood Motorsports Hamilton New Zealand

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