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OT: Re: F1 Scumbags

10 posts by 6 people · 11 Sep 2000 10:40 UTC - 11 Sep 2000 21:43 UTC

Chris Wright 11 Sep 2000 10:40 UTC#232673
Emotions are understandably bound to be running high at the moment. However, a few things will always remain constant: - 1. Motor Racing is Dangerous. Everyone, marshals included, knows this and accepts the risk implied by it. 2. The show will always go on when there has been a serious incident - it always has done. 3. Televison is, essentially, a voyeuristic medium. But sometimes it shows nasty things more by accident than design. 4. Television has also tended to sanitise us from the reality that racing deaths will always occur, no matter how "safe" things might appear to be. 5. Compared with the bloodbath of the GPL era, Formula One is now statistically much safer than fishing... 6. The safety car was clearly out for several laps because attempts were being made to save the poor marshal's life at trackside. That said, I do have a lot of sympathy for Mark's reaction to the seeming brutality of the sport. I worked in the media centre throughout the awful Imola '94 weekend and equally found it all very hard to come to terms with. However, I eventally realised that it is essential for the morale of the teams and drivers that the race weekend carries on and that these things are generally played down, in much the same way as fighter pilots treated death during the Battle of Britain etc. In recent times, we have been given a false sense of security about F1. Let there be no mistake that it is an extremely hazardous activity - a couple of flying laps in GP3 tells us that.
It's not enough to say motor-racing is dangerous. If that attitude had been taken every time someone was injured or killed then F1 wouldn't be as safe as it is today. The fact is F1 is safer now than in '94 because of changes that were made after the double fatality at Imola. Catch fencing at the spot where the marshall lost his life yesterday would help prevent the same thing happenning in the future, and since F1 car afford it then it should happen. The reality that motor-sport is dangerous shouldn't stop people trying to make it less dangerous. "Chris Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8picr8$f6$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (20 lines)> Emotions are understandably bound to be running high at the moment. > > However, a few things will always remain constant: - > > 1. Motor Racing is Dangerous. Everyone, marshals included, knows this and > accepts the risk implied by it. > 2. The show will always go on when there has been a serious incident - it > always has done. > 3. Televison is, essentially, a voyeuristic medium. But sometimes it shows > nasty things more by accident than design. > 4. Television has also tended to sanitise us from the reality that racing > deaths will always occur, no matter how "safe" things might appear to be. > 5. Compared with the bloodbath of the GPL era, Formula One is now > statistically much safer than fishing... > 6. The safety car was clearly out for several laps because attempts were > being made to save the poor marshal's life at trackside. > > That said, I do have a lot of sympathy for Mark's reaction to the seeming > brutality of the sport. I worked in the media centre throughout the awful > Imola '94 weekend and equally found it all very hard to come to terms
with. > However, I eventally realised that it is essential for the morale of the > teams and drivers that the race weekend carries on and that these thingsare > generally played down, in much the same way as fighter pilots treateddeath > during the Battle of Britain etc. > > In recent times, we have been given a false sense of security about F1.Let > there be no mistake that it is an extremely hazardous activity - a coupleof > flying laps in GP3 tells us that. > >
Simon Brown wrote: > > It's not enough to say motor-racing is dangerous. If that attitude had been > taken every time someone was injured or killed then F1 wouldn't be as safe > as it is today. The fact is F1 is safer now than in '94 because of changes > that were made after the double fatality at Imola. Funny how things work out sometimes, I've been wondering these past 6 years what would have happened if "only" Roland Ratzenberger had been killed that weekend, or if some "nameless" driver had died instead of Senna...... Somehow I have a feeling that "shit happens" and "driver errors" would have been used more frequently.... Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/ "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/ * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way * "Spamkiller" http://www.spamkiller.com
Goy, FYI: I ordered the GPL track converter from Dave Noonan, but they have yet to send me the files. Does it usually take 24hours? I ordered it last night around 8 EDT. Tom
Simon Brown <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mw4v5.1160$[email hidden]... > It's not enough to say motor-racing is dangerous. If that attitude hadbeen > taken every time someone was injured or killed then F1 wouldn't be as safe > as it is today. The fact is F1 is safer now than in '94 because ofchanges > that were made after the double fatality at Imola. > Of course, I know this might be out of place but Its just a point I'd like to make. Has anyone considered the fact that this particular accident could not have happened had the chicane never been put there in recent times (presumably for safety). And even more so, I think a more flowing chicane might've helped yet for this year they tightened that chicanes... These chicanes are dangerous IMO and that accident proved it. I can understand a fast flowing Chicane like at Magny Cours. A bit of a pest but a challenge for the driver... 1st gear chicanes gear dangerous and terrible to drive. I can't understand it. With that said. Best wishes to the marshalls family.
Tom Quick wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> > Goy, > > FYI: > > I ordered the GPL track converter from Dave Noonan, but they have yet to > send me the files. > > Does it usually take 24hours? I ordered it last night around 8 EDT.
Usually, yes, but this is one of David's "private" projects and he handles all of this himself, so if we was gone for the weekend or something he may have some catching up to do, if you haven't heard anything in the next couple of days, let me know and I'll ask around for you Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting are the only true sports...all others are games." --Ernest Hemingway--
Thanks Goy. I think it is coming in now... damn and I only had 15 minutes of work left. ;-) Tom "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (29 lines)> > Tom Quick wrote: > > > > Goy, > > > > FYI: > > > > I ordered the GPL track converter from Dave Noonan, but they have yet to > > send me the files. > > > > Does it usually take 24hours? I ordered it last night around 8 EDT. > > Usually, yes, but this is one of David's "private" projects and he > handles all of this himself, so if we was gone for the weekend or > something he may have some catching up to do, if you haven't heard > anything in the next couple of days, let me know and I'll ask around for > you > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > http://www.teammirage.com > > "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting > are the only true sports...all others are games." > --Ernest Hemingway-- >
Tom Quick wrote: > > Thanks Goy. > > I think it is coming in now... damn and I only had 15 minutes of work left. Well, I'm not surprised, David is usually a man for his words :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting are the only true sports...all others are games." --Ernest Hemingway--
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:56:07 +0200, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)> > >Tom Quick wrote: >> >> Thanks Goy. >> >> I think it is coming in now... damn and I only had 15 minutes of work left. > >Well, I'm not surprised, David is usually a man for his words :-)
So that means no Suzuka? :) Andre
Quoted text (11 lines)> > >Beers and cheers >(uncle) Goy > >http://www.theuspits.com >http://www.teammirage.com > >"Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting > are the only true sports...all others are games." >--Ernest Hemingway--
Andre Warringa wrote:
Quoted text (14 lines)> > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:56:07 +0200, Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >Tom Quick wrote: > >> > >> Thanks Goy. > >> > >> I think it is coming in now... damn and I only had 15 minutes of work left. > > > >Well, I'm not surprised, David is usually a man for his words :-) > > So that means no Suzuka? :)
LOL, good call, but I did say *usually*......:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting are the only true sports...all others are games." --Ernest Hemingway--

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