First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but I can't find
anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it by reading
this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie player going to know
about this option? Can you please make available a readme file that lists
all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options you can change
and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers are dying to
fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trial and error
and game crashes.
Vintook
NASCAR Heat's hidden hardcore mode and install paths
Vintook asked Ed Martin to document the options.cfg settings. Ed said hardcore mode and vertex damage were unsupported options for the daring, left documentation to the community, and agreed hardcore was hidden so average players could feel competent on Expert. Users objected to hiding it and to the installer putting files on C: regardless of the chosen directory, which Jan Loebzien partly worked around.
With Ed Martin (Monster Games)
Automated summary.
Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It exists in the
options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their own risk.
That pretty much includes everyone here. :-)
"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but I can't find > anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it by reading > this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie player going to know > about this option? Can you please make available a readme file that lists > all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options you can change > and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers are dying to > fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trial and error > and game crashes. > > Vintook > > >what other options are there that are not supported? Also what I originally
wanted was to know what each supported option was for and what I can set
each to. Like is there a way to set damage other than the vertex option that
makes the car damage easier.
Vintook
"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:9Qhp5.44512$[email hidden]...
find
> > anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it by reading
> > this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie player going toknow
> > about this option? Can you please make available a readme file thatlists
> > all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options you canchange
> > and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers are dying to
> > fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trial anderror
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> Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It exists in the > options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their own risk. > That pretty much includes everyone here. :-) > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:v9hp5.5229$[email hidden]... > > First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but I can'tQuoted text (8 lines)
> > and game crashes. > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > >is there something wrong with hardcore, that the general masses should be
protected from? Will it crash more? Is there a bug? If not then why are you
hiding it? Just because someone doesn't read r.a.s. or even do anything on
the web, doesn't mean they don't want to race on the most realistic level.
The hardcore mode should enabled by default in the first patch. (easy enough
just update the options file.
Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:9Qhp5.44512$[email hidden]...
find
> > anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it by reading
> > this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie player going toknow
> > about this option? Can you please make available a readme file thatlists
> > all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options you canchange
> > and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers are dying to
> > fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trial anderror
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> Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It exists in the > options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their own risk. > That pretty much includes everyone here. :-) > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:v9hp5.5229$[email hidden]... > > First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but I can'tQuoted text (8 lines)
> > and game crashes. > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > >There are some web sites out there that have started posting what option
does what. I have to leave that up to the community. :-) FYI, though,
vertex is the only "type" of damage.
"Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Aeip5.5248$[email hidden]...
> what other options are there that are not supported? Also what Ioriginally
> wanted was to know what each supported option was for and what I can set
> each to. Like is there a way to set damage other than the vertex optionthat
the
reading
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> makes the car damage easier. > > Vintook > > "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9Qhp5.44512$[email hidden]... > > Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It exists inQuoted text (9 lines)
> > options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their own risk. > > That pretty much includes everyone here. :-) > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:v9hp5.5229$[email hidden]... > > > First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but I can't > find > > > anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it byQuoted text (19 lines)
> > > this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie player going to > know > > > about this option? Can you please make available a readme file that > lists > > > all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options you can > change > > > and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers are dying to > > > fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trial and > error > > > and game crashes. > > > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >LOL, you sure know how to make the 'reading between the lines' a damn
sight more informative than reading whats 'actually' written :)
Ever considered Politics? Maybe something along the lines of 'Spin
Doctor'
Freeburn. (NH-less coz the lamers here in the UK just don't *get*
NASCAR)
Ed Martin wrote:
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> > There are some web sites out there that have started posting what option > does what. I have to leave that up to the community. :-) FYI, though, > vertex is the only "type" of damage. > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Aeip5.5248$[email hidden]... > > what other options are there that are not supported? Also what I > originally > > wanted was to know what each supported option was for and what I can set > > each to. Like is there a way to set damage other than the vertex option > that > > makes the car damage easier. > > > > Vintook > > > > "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9Qhp5.44512$[email hidden]... > > > Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It exists in > the > > > options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their own risk. > > > That pretty much includes everyone here. :-) > > > > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:v9hp5.5229$[email hidden]... > > > > First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but I can't > > find > > > > anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it by > reading > > > > this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie player going to > > know > > > > about this option? Can you please make available a readme file that > > lists > > > > all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options you can > > change > > > > and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers are dying to > > > > fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trial and > > error > > > > and game crashes. > > > > > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >You tell us what you don't support, Ed, and we'll have a field day with
it all! <G>
-- JB
In article <9Qhp5.44512$[email hidden]>,
"Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It exists inthe
> options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their ownrisk.
> That pretty much includes everyone here. :-)
>
> "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:v9hp5.5229$[email hidden]...
> > First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but Ican't find
> > anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it byreading
> > this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie player goingto know
> > about this option? Can you please make available a readme file thatlists
> > all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options you canchange
> > and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers are dyingto
> > fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trialand error
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> > and game crashes. > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > >Never fear, Kai -- I'm sure some whiz at Blackhole Motorsports or The
Pits or Sim Cyberworld will soon produce a "patch" or utility that
will "unlock" this "hidden" mode for the non-newsgroup novices out
there! <G>
-- JB
In article <Bqip5.10697$[email hidden]>,
"Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> is there something wrong with hardcore, that the general massesshould be
> protected from? Will it crash more? Is there a bug? If not then whyare you
> hiding it? Just because someone doesn't read r.a.s. or even doanything on
> the web, doesn't mean they don't want to race on the most realisticlevel.
> The hardcore mode should enabled by default in the first patch. (easyenough
> just update the options file.
>
> Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:9Qhp5.44512$[email hidden]...
> > Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It existsin the
> > options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their ownrisk.
> > That pretty much includes everyone here. :-)
> >
> >
> > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:v9hp5.5229$[email hidden]...
> > > First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but Ican't
> find
> > > anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it byreading
> > > this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie playergoing to
> know
> > > about this option? Can you please make available a readme filethat
> lists
> > > all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options you can
> change
> > > and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers aredying to
> > > fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trialand
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> error > > > and game crashes. > > > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 23:02:29 GMT, "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]>
thus spoke:
>Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It exists in the
>options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their own risk.
>That pretty much includes everyone here. :-)
IYO, which is more realistic. Expert or Hardcore?
--
Nos
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:44:21 -0700, "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]>
thus spoke:
>is there something wrong with hardcore, that the general masses should be
>protected from? Will it crash more? Is there a bug? If not then why are you
>hiding it? Just because someone doesn't read r.a.s. or even do anything on
>the web, doesn't mean they don't want to race on the most realistic level.
>The hardcore mode should enabled by default in the first patch. (easy enough
>just update the options file.
Maybe hardcore isn't the most realistic. Maybwe it's just harder.
Harder doesn't always = realistic. Maybe I'm wrong, but would like to
see Ed comment on this.
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Nos
I think they did this so the average person, after racing for a while, can
be pretty good at expert level and feel that he/she is a great driver, so
they won't be frustrated. Let THEM think their the best :) Then the hardcore
mode is for people like us that expect the most realistic physics and real
world parameters for grip, gravity, etc. I think Hasboro is smart for doing
this. Making the average person think their the best, yet not forgeting
about us hardcore simmers. (therefore hardcore mode)
Though I wish the cars were a bit more easily damaged and the other cars and
you would spin easier on contact. Sometimes you can even use them as walls
:) But of course, everything else is superb.
Thanks,
Alex
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2000 16:44:21 -0700, "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]>
> thus spoke:
>
> >is there something wrong with hardcore, that the general masses should be
> >protected from? Will it crash more? Is there a bug? If not then why areyou
> >hiding it? Just because someone doesn't read r.a.s. or even do anythingon
> >the web, doesn't mean they don't want to race on the most realisticlevel.
> >The hardcore mode should enabled by default in the first patch. (easyenough
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> >just update the options file. > > Maybe hardcore isn't the most realistic. Maybwe it's just harder. > Harder doesn't always = realistic. Maybe I'm wrong, but would like to > see Ed comment on this. > -- > NosSeems unlikely that the "non-newsgroup novices" out there are going to
be searching those sites for patches though... And truely, they
shouldn't have to for something as trivial as this.
In article <8o4er0$vas$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] wrote:
(easy
can
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> Never fear, Kai -- I'm sure some whiz at Blackhole Motorsports or The > Pits or Sim Cyberworld will soon produce a "patch" or utility that > will "unlock" this "hidden" mode for the non-newsgroup novices out > there! <G> > > -- JB > > In article <Bqip5.10697$[email hidden]>, > "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > is there something wrong with hardcore, that the general masses > should be > > protected from? Will it crash more? Is there a bug? If not then why > are you > > hiding it? Just because someone doesn't read r.a.s. or even do > anything on > > the web, doesn't mean they don't want to race on the most realistic > level. > > The hardcore mode should enabled by default in the first patch.Quoted text (26 lines)
> enough > > just update the options file. > > > > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9Qhp5.44512$[email hidden]... > > > Hardcore, like vertex damage is an unsupported feature. It exists > in the > > > options.cfg for the "daring" that want to turn it on at their own > risk. > > > That pretty much includes everyone here. :-) > > > > > > > > > "Vintook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:v9hp5.5229$[email hidden]... > > > > First of all, great game. Maybe I missed a file somewhere but I > can't > > find > > > > anything talking about hardcore mode. I knew how to enable it by > reading > > > > this newsgroup but how is the average non-newsgroupie player > going to > > know > > > > about this option? Can you please make available a readme file > that > > lists > > > > all the parameters in the options.cfg file and the options youQuoted text (20 lines)
> > change > > > > and post it to a web site somewhere? All us game tweakers are > dying to > > > > fiddle, I just like to know what I can fiddle with without trial > and > > error > > > > and game crashes. > > > > > > > > Vintook > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. >"Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I think they did this so the average person, after racing for a while, can
> be pretty good at expert level and feel that he/she is a great driver, so
> they won't be frustrated. Let THEM think their the best :) Then thehardcore
> mode is for people like us that expect the most realistic physics and real
> world parameters for grip, gravity, etc. I think Hasboro is smart fordoing
> this. Making the average person think their the best, yet not forgeting
> about us hardcore simmers. (therefore hardcore mode)
Couldn't have explained our logic any better myself! :-)
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 01:29:11 GMT, "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]>
thus spoke:
OK, hardcore it is from the start then. :-)
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>I think they did this so the average person, after racing for a while, can >be pretty good at expert level and feel that he/she is a great driver, so >they won't be frustrated. Let THEM think their the best :) Then the hardcore >mode is for people like us that expect the most realistic physics and real >world parameters for grip, gravity, etc. I think Hasboro is smart for doing >this. Making the average person think their the best, yet not forgeting >about us hardcore simmers. (therefore hardcore mode) > >Though I wish the cars were a bit more easily damaged and the other cars and >you would spin easier on contact. Sometimes you can even use them as walls >:) But of course, everything else is superb.In article <8o4ih2$3ar$[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] wrote:
> Seems unlikely that the "non-newsgroup novices" out there are going to
> be searching those sites for patches though... And truely, they
> shouldn't have to for something as trivial as this.
And how did WE all find this newsgroup in the first place? We weren't
born with the God-given knowledge of this newsgroup, and of all the
various sites on the Web where we've downloaded various setups,
patches, add-ons, converters . . .
If they like it, they'll want more, and they'll go looking.
How many of you know what the no-CD hack is for Viper Racing? How did
you find out about it?
If you build it, they will come.
-- JB
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How logical is it to think that only people who read r.a.s. or keep current
on all the web-sites want to race at the realistic level? All those other
fools think their on the hardest level... haha we all know better...
Having hardcore available isn't going to scare anyone away. neither will
having to control your own speed in the pits if you so wish. Why hide it?
Why hide it? Why hide it? I totally agree with multiple difficulty levels,
but keeping it a secret accomplishes nothing in my opinion.
Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:Ktkp5.44590$[email hidden]...
> "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:HZjp5.10396$[email hidden]...
> > I think they did this so the average person, after racing for a while,can
> > be pretty good at expert level and feel that he/she is a great driver,so
> > they won't be frustrated. Let THEM think their the best :) Then the
> hardcore
> > mode is for people like us that expect the most realistic physics andreal
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> > world parameters for grip, gravity, etc. I think Hasboro is smart for > doing > > this. Making the average person think their the best, yet not forgeting > > about us hardcore simmers. (therefore hardcore mode) > > > Couldn't have explained our logic any better myself! :-) > >On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:34:20 +0200, Ronald Stoehr
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>First thing I'll do after installing my hopefully soon received version
>is
>starting regedit to fix that stupid disregard of my installation
>request.
I'm under the impression that the location at c:\programs\Hasbro\...
is "hardcoded" into the game EXE. The registry only contains an
entry for the directory you chose yourself.
JanL
Jan Loebzien wrote:
First thing I'll do after installing my hopefully soon received version
is
starting regedit to fix that stupid disregard of my installation
request.
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ronny
Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change
to take effect. Reboot now?
|\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather,
ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep.
|,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car,
'---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!
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> > On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:03:22 GMT, "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Couldn't have explained our logic any better myself! :-) > > And what was the logic behind installing a part of the game on C: > even if the user chooses another location on purpose, and without > even telling him? > And unlike with the hidden settings in the options.cfg, there is no > way to change the installation mess even for the experienced user. :-(It sounds like an unfinished game was sold to the public.
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"Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:kFBp5.521073$[email hidden]...
> How logical is it to think that only people who read r.a.s. or keep
current
> on all the web-sites want to race at the realistic level? All those other
> fools think their on the hardest level... haha we all know better...
>
> Having hardcore available isn't going to scare anyone away. neither will
> having to control your own speed in the pits if you so wish. Why hide it?
> Why hide it? Why hide it? I totally agree with multiple difficulty levels,
> but keeping it a secret accomplishes nothing in my opinion.
>
>
> Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:Ktkp5.44590$[email hidden]...
> > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:HZjp5.10396$[email hidden]...
> > > I think they did this so the average person, after racing for a while,
> can
> > > be pretty good at expert level and feel that he/she is a great driver,
> so
> > > they won't be frustrated. Let THEM think their the best :) Then the
> > hardcore
> > > mode is for people like us that expect the most realistic physics and
> real
> > > world parameters for grip, gravity, etc. I think Hasboro is smart for
> > doing
> > > this. Making the average person think their the best, yet not
forgeting
> > > about us hardcore simmers. (therefore hardcore mode)
> >
> >
> > Couldn't have explained our logic any better myself! :-)
> >
> >
>
>
and then when they finish the game it will be sold as Nascar Heat 2.
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"Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> It sounds like an unfinished game was sold to the public.
>
> --
> Kevin Anderson
> [email hidden]
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:kFBp5.521073$[email hidden]...
> > How logical is it to think that only people who read r.a.s. or keep
> current
> > on all the web-sites want to race at the realistic level? All those
other
> > fools think their on the hardest level... haha we all know better...
> >
> > Having hardcore available isn't going to scare anyone away. neither will
> > having to control your own speed in the pits if you so wish. Why hide
it?
> > Why hide it? Why hide it? I totally agree with multiple difficulty
levels,
> > but keeping it a secret accomplishes nothing in my opinion.
> >
> >
> > Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:Ktkp5.44590$[email hidden]...
> > > "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > > news:HZjp5.10396$[email hidden]...
> > > > I think they did this so the average person, after racing for a
while,
> > can
> > > > be pretty good at expert level and feel that he/she is a great
driver,
> > so
> > > > they won't be frustrated. Let THEM think their the best :) Then the
> > > hardcore
> > > > mode is for people like us that expect the most realistic physics
and
> > real
> > > > world parameters for grip, gravity, etc. I think Hasboro is smart
for
> > > doing
> > > > this. Making the average person think their the best, yet not
> forgeting
> > > > about us hardcore simmers. (therefore hardcore mode)
> > >
> > >
> > > Couldn't have explained our logic any better myself! :-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 02:03:22 GMT, "Ed Martin" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>Couldn't have explained our logic any better myself! :-)
And what was the logic behind installing a part of the game on C:
even if the user chooses another location on purpose, and without
even telling him?
And unlike with the hidden settings in the options.cfg, there is no
way to change the installation mess even for the experienced user. :-(
JanL
Yep, your fault for being honest and paying for a game you want, should have
stolen it right from the start huh?
What is it with that kind of thinking? Seems like if you don't like a game,
you either don't buy it based on reports, take it back if you have already
bought it, if you can, shelf it and hope a patch comes out later, or sell it
and chalk up your losses.
Why do folks try to justify stealing by saying it isn't worth buying? If
it's bad, seems like you wouldn't want in anyway.
Sorry, I just don't get it.
--
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Dburn in N3 and Legends
ICQ# 74084566
"wert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> yes, what a mess, i installed it to e: drive, only to find out half of
> the game was installed to c:drive. also it said either to install and
> run off CD or run off hard drive, well, i selected run off hard drive,
> only to discover i still needed the CD to play it. i cant wait for the
> cracked warez version to come out so it corrects this problem.
> this whole fiasco was my fault, i never should have bought the game,
> should have waited for the warez.
>
> flames please.
Jan Loebzien wrote:
Different needs, different tools: Hex editor
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|,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car,
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> > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:34:20 +0200, Ronald Stoehr > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >First thing I'll do after installing my hopefully soon received version > >is > >starting regedit to fix that stupid disregard of my installation > >request. > > I'm under the impression that the location at c:\programs\Hasbro\... > is "hardcoded" into the game EXE. The registry only contains an > entry for the directory you chose yourself.On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:48:55 +0200, Ronald Stoehr
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>Different needs, different tools: Hex editor
Sure, but it's certainly not the same rather easy task as "starting
regedit to fix that stupid disregard of my installation request". ;-)
Good luck anyway, I just tried replacing the clear text instances
of "\Hasbro\NASCAR Heat\..." in the EXE but apparently that's
not enough.
JanL
In article <kFBp5.521073$[email hidden]>, Kai Fuller
<[email hidden]> writes
Forgive me if I'm wrong on this as being in the UK I haven't yet got
hold of the full game yet.
However, from what others appear to be saying I don't understand this
need to hide things either. Is the options.cfg supposed to be editable
or not by those who play the game if they choose to? Or is the only
editable feature supported by MGI the setting of the hardcore mode? If
it is the former then I don't understand why they are being so secretive
about this. What's the purpose of having all these extra little
editable goodies for us to play with and then not letting us know what
it is that they all do. Surely the information about this would be
better coming from MGI (the horse's mouth) than expecting people to play
guessing games with how they work.
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No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.
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>How logical is it to think that only people who read r.a.s. or keep current >on all the web-sites want to race at the realistic level? All those other >fools think their on the hardest level... haha we all know better... > >Having hardcore available isn't going to scare anyone away. neither will >having to control your own speed in the pits if you so wish. Why hide it? >Why hide it? Why hide it? I totally agree with multiple difficulty levels, >but keeping it a secret accomplishes nothing in my opinion. >Quoted text (24 lines)
> >Ed Martin <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:Ktkp5.44590$[email hidden]... >> "Alex Kihurani" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:HZjp5.10396$[email hidden]... >> > I think they did this so the average person, after racing for a while, >can >> > be pretty good at expert level and feel that he/she is a great driver, >so >> > they won't be frustrated. Let THEM think their the best :) Then the >> hardcore >> > mode is for people like us that expect the most realistic physics and >real >> > world parameters for grip, gravity, etc. I think Hasboro is smart for >> doing >> > this. Making the average person think their the best, yet not forgeting >> > about us hardcore simmers. (therefore hardcore mode) >> >> >> Couldn't have explained our logic any better myself! :-) >> >> > >Jan Loebzien wrote:
Damn times two! ;)
Thanks for trying already, as I'm still waiting for my friend to return
from the US with my copy of NH...
l8er
ronny
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> > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:48:55 +0200, Ronald Stoehr > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Different needs, different tools: Hex editor > > Sure, but it's certainly not the same rather easy task as "starting > regedit to fix that stupid disregard of my installation request". ;-) > > Good luck anyway, I just tried replacing the clear text instances > of "\Hasbro\NASCAR Heat\..." in the EXE but apparently that's > not enough.On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:28:04 +0200, Ronald Stoehr
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>Thanks for trying already, as I'm still waiting for my friend to return
>from the US with my copy of NH...
Guess it's a case of "Never say never" here ... :-)
I managed to make the game store all but one (tiny) file at the
drive of your choice. Unfortunately for now you have to use the
default \Hasbro ... folder though (but not on C: !)
I also finally sat down and got past my "Hello World" attempts
in C++, so I created a little program called "NASCAR Heat Install
Location Fix" (or NHILF) to patch the appropriate file (which is
race.bin in the \run folder btw).
As you can see by the version number, there is plenty room for
improvement. If anyone is bold enough to try it out, please don't
hesitate to send any feedback! Here's the direct link:
http://1st-blaze.euhost.com/files/nh/NHILFv01.zip (180K)
JanL
LOL those Hello World rograms can be a killer but I reckon its the
Temperature Converters that sort the men out from the boys...
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