Re: About this "no savegame" crap...

Tim Wheatley wrote in message <8nvpqd$qcl$[email hidden]>... >Personnally I'd prefer not to be throw into a wall or something every time >I restart a race. :-) The only sensible time to pause in GPL is on a long straight, maximum throttle, steering wheel centered. If you're pausing while making a difficult manoeuvre, or in other words while executing input changes, then you deserve to be thrown into a wall. :-) Bendito;

Well said... I honestly can't believe some peoples attitudes anymore. Let's face it folks, we are talking about a freaking game here. A simple computer game that costs no more then fifty bucks!!! Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing racing sims as much as anyone else. However, there are much more important things in this world then a GAME. I can't believe people are going nuts over a feature that was left out, it's not the end of the world!!! Back 8 or 9 years ago, when "Indianapolis 500: The Simulation" came out, did we complain because we could'nt save the darn game? No, we were happy with what we had... For all of the people who have nothing better to do but complain, if these sims are so important to you, why don't you get off your butts and go by a go-kart or a legends car and do some real racing. Tim Wheatley wrote:

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> Also, all you who proclaimed this the greatest NASCAR sim ever (which it is) > are now calling it crap, a 'game' an arcade game? > > No savegame feature makes a sim an arcade game? > > Go back to playing N2 for godsake and enjoy the wonder which I once enjoyed. > I used to love racing on TEN using the demo version, racing with you guys. > But you've all changed so much, RAS has changed so much, it's become nothing > but full of people who seem to make posts, which if they read them in a > weeks time they'd laugh at. I laugh at quite a few of the posts on here, > simply because of their total stupidity, it really is so stunning to see so > many people with such two faced, backstabbing, idiotic views. > > There are occasionally some helpful posts, many of which are helpful, and > many of which are amusing for the right reasons, I just with there were > more. > > I just read a post by John Simmons, he ran the first league I ever joined, > which was a GPL league, but the guy HATES open wheelers, he ran it because > GPL was the best sim available, and no NASCAR sim compared, and now we have > one that does compare, you guys flame it? I am no big NASCAR fan, infact I'd > rather watch an F1 race from the 80's that I've seen 10's of times before. > But I can respect both it, and those who are fans of it, I will watch it, > and respect every one of those guys out there risking their lives for > something they enjoy. > > Sim racing is widespread, it includes many arcade games, do none of you > remember how stunning some of those arcade games were the first time you > played them? Do you not remember 'feeling' that "Revs" was realistic? And > what a piece of crap that looks like now... Can't you just respect a sim for > what it is? Rather than scouring the damn thing for the TINIEST little thing > which you can whinge and moan about? > > The F10 argument for example....... --------- WHY!?! -------- > Give it a bloody rest! The physics are the same, inside and outside of the > cars, it changes nothing, ok you can 'see more' but that's only until you > learn the tracks, then it's probably a disadvantage! I simply cannot believe > some of the arguments I read on here, no respect for real racers, no respect > for sim racers, and sure as hell no respect for each other..... > > There, flame this all you bloody want. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for > this > > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it > > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' > > race. > > > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain > it. > > > > -- > > Tim, > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > league... > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > gpl... > > > >

hehehe Tim Wheatley wrote:

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> GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for this > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' > race. > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain it. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl...

Ahh so nice to see you posting again Tim but you should know by now there will always be people who just aren't happy no matter what. If no saved games is the only problem with NH then I think I can work around that. -- Jeff Murchison JR [email hidden] "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for this > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' > race. > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain it. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > >

Also, all you who proclaimed this the greatest NASCAR sim ever (which it is) are now calling it crap, a 'game' an arcade game? No savegame feature makes a sim an arcade game? Go back to playing N2 for godsake and enjoy the wonder which I once enjoyed. I used to love racing on TEN using the demo version, racing with you guys. But you've all changed so much, RAS has changed so much, it's become nothing but full of people who seem to make posts, which if they read them in a weeks time they'd laugh at. I laugh at quite a few of the posts on here, simply because of their total stupidity, it really is so stunning to see so many people with such two faced, backstabbing, idiotic views. There are occasionally some helpful posts, many of which are helpful, and many of which are amusing for the right reasons, I just with there were more. I just read a post by John Simmons, he ran the first league I ever joined, which was a GPL league, but the guy HATES open wheelers, he ran it because GPL was the best sim available, and no NASCAR sim compared, and now we have one that does compare, you guys flame it? I am no big NASCAR fan, infact I'd rather watch an F1 race from the 80's that I've seen 10's of times before. But I can respect both it, and those who are fans of it, I will watch it, and respect every one of those guys out there risking their lives for something they enjoy. Sim racing is widespread, it includes many arcade games, do none of you remember how stunning some of those arcade games were the first time you played them? Do you not remember 'feeling' that "Revs" was realistic? And what a piece of crap that looks like now... Can't you just respect a sim for what it is? Rather than scouring the damn thing for the TINIEST little thing which you can whinge and moan about? The F10 argument for example....... --------- WHY!?! -------- Give it a bloody rest! The physics are the same, inside and outside of the cars, it changes nothing, ok you can 'see more' but that's only until you learn the tracks, then it's probably a disadvantage! I simply cannot believe some of the arguments I read on here, no respect for real racers, no respect for sim racers, and sure as hell no respect for each other..... There, flame this all you bloody want. -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for this > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' > race. > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain it. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > >

TMan - you get that free copy via Simz yet? What did you say? I thought I had the best argument for a free copy <g> --David Cook "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nudbv$r5l$[email hidden]... > Also, all you who proclaimed this the greatest NASCAR sim ever (which itis) > are now calling it crap, a 'game' an arcade game? > > No savegame feature makes a sim an arcade game? > > Go back to playing N2 for godsake and enjoy the wonder which I onceenjoyed. > I used to love racing on TEN using the demo version, racing with you guys. > But you've all changed so much, RAS has changed so much, it's becomenothing > but full of people who seem to make posts, which if they read them in a > weeks time they'd laugh at. I laugh at quite a few of the posts on here, > simply because of their total stupidity, it really is so stunning to seeso

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> many people with such two faced, backstabbing, idiotic views. > > There are occasionally some helpful posts, many of which are helpful, and > many of which are amusing for the right reasons, I just with there were > more. > > I just read a post by John Simmons, he ran the first league I ever joined, > which was a GPL league, but the guy HATES open wheelers, he ran it because > GPL was the best sim available, and no NASCAR sim compared, and now we

have > one that does compare, you guys flame it? I am no big NASCAR fan, infactI'd

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> rather watch an F1 race from the 80's that I've seen 10's of times before. > But I can respect both it, and those who are fans of it, I will watch it, > and respect every one of those guys out there risking their lives for > something they enjoy. > > Sim racing is widespread, it includes many arcade games, do none of you > remember how stunning some of those arcade games were the first time you > played them? Do you not remember 'feeling' that "Revs" was realistic? And > what a piece of crap that looks like now... Can't you just respect a sim

for > what it is? Rather than scouring the damn thing for the TINIEST littlething > which you can whinge and moan about? > > The F10 argument for example....... --------- WHY!?! -------- > Give it a bloody rest! The physics are the same, inside and outside of the > cars, it changes nothing, ok you can 'see more' but that's only until you > learn the tracks, then it's probably a disadvantage! I simply cannotbelieve > some of the arguments I read on here, no respect for real racers, norespect

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> for sim racers, and sure as hell no respect for each other..... > > There, flame this all you bloody want. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your

league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based ongpl...

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> Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for > this > > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to

it > > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a'shorter'

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> > race. > > > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain > it. > > > > -- > > Tim, > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > league... > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > gpl... > > > > > >

GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for this reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' race. But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain it. -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl...

Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap forthis

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> reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' > race. > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain

it. > Some people have the privilege of having enough time to be able to run a full race altogether or even in the one day but the simple fact is that most folks don't. Meaning they're forced to race short races. As an example, think of a married man with young kids. He might not have tons of time to race every day, yet he'd like the excitement of running a full race at the Nurburgring. He can't do it, he'd be racing 20-30 minutes every day or two if he could be he can't, he'll just have to run a short race instead. Same thing for NASCARS sims as a full length NASCAR race can often go on for a hell of a long time. Some have loads of time on their hands and good for them but most don't. No save game feature is disappointing in this manner. The answer isn't "oh, well don't bother racing 100% races then". They should be able to IMO.

No flame here, Well said and Agreed 100% Freeburn. Tim Wheatley wrote:

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> Also, all you who proclaimed this the greatest NASCAR sim ever (which it is) > are now calling it crap, a 'game' an arcade game? > > No savegame feature makes a sim an arcade game? > > Go back to playing N2 for godsake and enjoy the wonder which I once enjoyed. > I used to love racing on TEN using the demo version, racing with you guys. > But you've all changed so much, RAS has changed so much, it's become nothing > but full of people who seem to make posts, which if they read them in a > weeks time they'd laugh at. I laugh at quite a few of the posts on here, > simply because of their total stupidity, it really is so stunning to see so > many people with such two faced, backstabbing, idiotic views. > > There are occasionally some helpful posts, many of which are helpful, and > many of which are amusing for the right reasons, I just with there were > more. > > I just read a post by John Simmons, he ran the first league I ever joined, > which was a GPL league, but the guy HATES open wheelers, he ran it because > GPL was the best sim available, and no NASCAR sim compared, and now we have > one that does compare, you guys flame it? I am no big NASCAR fan, infact I'd > rather watch an F1 race from the 80's that I've seen 10's of times before. > But I can respect both it, and those who are fans of it, I will watch it, > and respect every one of those guys out there risking their lives for > something they enjoy. > > Sim racing is widespread, it includes many arcade games, do none of you > remember how stunning some of those arcade games were the first time you > played them? Do you not remember 'feeling' that "Revs" was realistic? And > what a piece of crap that looks like now... Can't you just respect a sim for > what it is? Rather than scouring the damn thing for the TINIEST little thing > which you can whinge and moan about? > > The F10 argument for example....... --------- WHY!?! -------- > Give it a bloody rest! The physics are the same, inside and outside of the > cars, it changes nothing, ok you can 'see more' but that's only until you > learn the tracks, then it's probably a disadvantage! I simply cannot believe > some of the arguments I read on here, no respect for real racers, no respect > for sim racers, and sure as hell no respect for each other..... > > There, flame this all you bloody want. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for > this > > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it > > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' > > race. > > > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain > it. > > > > -- > > Tim, > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > league... > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > gpl... > > > >

couldn't agree with you more. Hopefully everyone can realize how pointless their arguments can be at times. -- the friendly pysco I know it's spelled wrong but, I'm not a psycho ; )

heres my argument- its a neckcar game. :) friendly pysco <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3lAo5.113$[email hidden]...

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> couldn't agree with you more. Hopefully everyone can realize how pointless > their arguments can be at times. > > -- > the friendly pysco > > I know it's spelled wrong but, I'm not a psycho ; ) > > >

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:05:49 -0500, "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >If you want to do 100% races, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' >race. Sounds like an oxymoron to me. -- Nos

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:25:28 -0500, "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >There, flame this all you bloody want. Yawn. -- Nos

Yes, but is it really too much to ask to have this? I don't really care, but come on, how tough can it be to include this little, tiny feature. -- Todd S "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for this > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' > race. > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain it. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > >

well actually it can be incredibly difficult. Ed has said time and again that they looked at it and it was too difficult to implement at this time. They didnt leave it out on a whim, it was too hard to do within the time constraints of the release. shane Todd Sorensen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RaDo5.65943$[email hidden]... > Yes, but is it really too much to ask to have this? I don't really care,but

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> come on, how tough can it be to include this little, tiny feature. > > -- > Todd S > > "Tim Wheatley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for > this > > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to

it > > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a'shorter'

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> > race. > > > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain > it. > > > > -- > > Tim, > > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your > league... > > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on > gpl... > > > > > >

Todd, I think it has to do with the way the game is programmed. I saved a 6 lap Daytona race and it was 3.6 mb. That was less than 5 minutes of racing. A 2 hour race would probably be 87 mb. That's a lot of disk space, but also a lot of memory being used up. Might crash some computers. It would probably take quite a bit of reprogramming to change the way the game saves. On the other hand, this might have nothing to do with it at all ;) -- Slot www.slottweak.com Tweaks & Reviews "Todd Sorensen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RaDo5.65943$[email hidden]... > Yes, but is it really too much to ask to have this? I don't really care, but > come on, how tough can it be to include this little, tiny feature.

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:44:23 -0500, rrevved <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Really tough? > >Ed from Hasbro said it would have been a major addition >due to the design of the sim. Not a 'little, tiny feature'. > Not if they designed it with this feature in mind from the beginning. They didn't though so fix it. -- Nos

Indeed Slot... you can't compare saving game status (i.e. savegame) with saving a replay (saving all that's gone before). At least not size-wise. Then again, if your game is not totally deterministic (i.e. if it won't run in exactly the same way each time given the same starting parameters), savegames can be nothing short of hellish to implement. Jan. =--- GTX_SlotCar wrote... > <snip> > On the other hand, this might have nothing to do with > it at all ;) > -- > Slot

And if you READ my post you would say in an accident..... "A-C-C-I-D-E-N-T" In a weeks time, come back and read your post, then laugh at how funny it was, I'm sure as hell laughing... -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Bendito <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nvscd$7a4$[email hidden]... > Tim Wheatley wrote in message <8nvpqd$qcl$[email hidden]>... > > >Personnally I'd prefer not to be throw into a wall or something every time > >I restart a race. :-) > > The only sensible time to pause in GPL is on a long straight, maximum > throttle, steering wheel centered. If you're pausing while making a > difficult manoeuvre, or in other words while executing input changes, then > you deserve to be thrown into a wall. :-) > > Bendito; > >

It is difficult now to implement because it must be implemented in the games code from its infancy.Why? Because the whole games revolves around this feature. We save paintjobs, replays, season statistics, setups. What would you guys think if we couldnt do that either? Bet you wouldnt think it so irrelevant then..LOL

That's my thinking - it *sounds* simple enough to just stop where you're at, write all the data to disk as a savefile - then reload it and start up where you left off. Depending on how they store position data for the cars on the track and how all that interfaces with the physics engine - it could be horrendous to implement without having really, really weird stuff happening when you restore a game. And that would have folks bitching more than having NO savegame I'm sure.... -- Ken's Sig 3.1 "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan Kenobi volksy(at)yahoo(dot)com Go #43 and #44! R.I.P Adam "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Indeed Slot... you can't compare saving game status (i.e. savegame) with > saving a replay (saving all that's gone before). At least not size-wise. > > Then again, if your game is not totally deterministic (i.e. if it won't run > in exactly the same way each time given the same starting parameters), > savegames can be nothing short of hellish to implement. > > Jan. > =--- > GTX_SlotCar wrote... > > <snip> > > On the other hand, this might have nothing to do with > > it at all ;) > > -- > > Slot > > >

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:41:28 -0500, rrevved <[email hidden]> thus spoke:

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>>Not if they designed it with this feature in mind from the beginning. >>They didn't though so fix it. > >So, you want them to re-design the game? > >LOL!! >

Well...I'm not completely anal about it so I guess I'll let it go this time and buy the game when it comes out here in Canada. :-) At least now I think they will incorporate that feature into their next sim. And when they do you can thank people like me for making an issue out of it. Mission complete. -- Nos

And keep it mind, your dealing with 6 degrees of freedom versus 4 now. I would imagine that would make the save game that much more complicated. -- Don Burnette Dburn in N3 and Legends ICQ# 74084566 "Ken Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YnGo5.2592$[email hidden]... > That's my thinking - it *sounds* simple enough to just stop where you're at, > write all the data to disk as a savefile - then reload it and start up where > you left off. Depending on how they store position data for the cars on the > track and how all that interfaces with the physics engine - it could be > horrendous to implement without having really, really weird stuff happening > when you restore a game. > > And that would have folks bitching more than having NO savegame I'm sure.... > > > -- > Ken's Sig 3.1 > > "Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" > - Obi-Wan Kenobi > > volksy(at)yahoo(dot)com > > Go #43 and #44! > > R.I.P Adam > > "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Indeed Slot... you can't compare saving game status (i.e. savegame) with > > saving a replay (saving all that's gone before). At least not size-wise. > > > > Then again, if your game is not totally deterministic (i.e. if it won't > run > > in exactly the same way each time given the same starting parameters), > > savegames can be nothing short of hellish to implement. > > > > Jan. > > =--- > > GTX_SlotCar wrote... > > > <snip> > > > On the other hand, this might have nothing to do with > > > it at all ;) > > > -- > > > Slot > > > > > > > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > It is difficult now to implement because it must be implemented in the games > code from its infancy.Why? Because the whole games revolves around this > feature. We save paintjobs, replays, season statistics, setups. What would you > guys think if we couldnt do that either? Bet you wouldnt think it so irrelevant > then..LOL > That's a pretty weird way to look at it. When we save setups and paintjobs, we're not hurtling down a track within inches of the other drivers. Your comparison doesn't make any sense at all. -- ========================================================= Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) http://www.paddedwall.org/john Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL http://www.paddedwall.org/demons If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. =========================================================

Facts are, gpl can alter the direction of a car just by pausing mid-accident. Shouldn't someone ask Papy if N4 will have a save feature? I very much doubt it. Being paused mid calculation is going to throw any realistic physics engine wildly off par... Personnally I'd prefer not to be throw into a wall or something every time I restart a race. :-) -- Tim, [email hidden]|[email hidden] http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nuc6f$54d$[email hidden]... > GPL has no savegame, I have read a post by someone calling NH crap for this > reason, GPL is crap too then? O-K. > > If you want to do 100% races, press pause then alt-tab and come back to it > later, it's perfectly simple, to be honest you could also try a 'shorter' > race. > > But guess all this is too hard to work out, which is why I need explain it. > > -- > Tim, > [email hidden]|[email hidden] > http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your league... > http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on gpl... > >

You mean saving a few colors and textures isn't the same as saving the precise speed, location, condition and position of 43 cars? I don't get it ;-). -- Joe Marques Please remove "NO SPAM" to e-mail me. "John Simmons" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > It is difficult now to implement because it must be implemented in the games > > code from its infancy.Why? Because the whole games revolves around this > > feature. We save paintjobs, replays, season statistics, setups. What would you > > guys think if we couldnt do that either? Bet you wouldnt think it so irrelevant > > then..LOL > > > > That's a pretty weird way to look at it. When we save setups and > paintjobs, we're not hurtling down a track within inches of the other > drivers. Your comparison doesn't make any sense at all. > > -- > ========================================================= > Redneck Techno-Biker (Zerex12) > http://www.paddedwall.org/john > Barbarian Diecast Collector (420+ cars and counting) > http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast > DeMONS Scheduler for N3 and NL > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons > > If you want to send me email, go to the first URL shown > above & click "Send Me Mail" in the contents frame. > =========================================================

John Simmons wrote:

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > It is difficult now to implement because it must be implemented in the games > > code from its infancy.Why? Because the whole games revolves around this > > feature. We save paintjobs, replays, season statistics, setups. What would you > > guys think if we couldnt do that either? Bet you wouldnt think it so irrelevant > > then..LOL > > > > That's a pretty weird way to look at it. When we save setups and > paintjobs, we're not hurtling down a track within inches of the other > drivers. Your comparison doesn't make any sense at all.

Makes perfect sense. You're saving bytes of game info either way. Just differing types of info. -- Chuck Kandler Windows--computing for the Unwashed Masses Registered Linux User #180746 http://counter.li.org

In article <8o1056$k9c$[email hidden]>, Tim Wheatley <[email hidden]> writes

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>And if you READ my post you would say in an accident..... > >"A-C-C-I-D-E-N-T" > >In a weeks time, come back and read your post, then laugh at how funny it >was, I'm sure as hell laughing... >

Yeah, but you went from (a) 'in an accident' to (b) 'being thrown into a wall every time you restart a race'. So how did you get from a to b in such a short period of time.

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>-- >Tim, >[email hidden]|[email hidden] >http://legends.sports-gaming.com/forums.shtml FREE forums for your >league... >http://legends.sports-gaming.com Sim racing website loosely based on >gpl... >Bendito <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:8nvscd$7a4$[email hidden]... >> Tim Wheatley wrote in message <8nvpqd$qcl$[email hidden] >m>... >> >> >Personnally I'd prefer not to be throw into a wall or something every >time >> >I restart a race. :-) >> >> The only sensible time to pause in GPL is on a long straight, maximum >> throttle, steering wheel centered. If you're pausing while making a >> difficult manoeuvre, or in other words while executing input changes, then >> you deserve to be thrown into a wall. :-) >> >> Bendito; >> >> > >

-- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) Remove ALL_STRESS before replying No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Mike White wrote in message ... >The only time you should be allowed to save is while stopped in your pit >stall. Thanks for your opinion. Bendito;

"Bendito" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8nvscd$7a4$[email hidden]... > Tim Wheatley wrote in message <8nvpqd$qcl$[email hidden]>... > > >Personnally I'd prefer not to be throw into a wall or something everytime

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> >I restart a race. :-) > > The only sensible time to pause in GPL is on a long straight, maximum > throttle, steering wheel centered. If you're pausing while making a > difficult manoeuvre, or in other words while executing input changes, then > you deserve to be thrown into a wall. :-) > > Bendito; > > >

The only time you should be allowed to save is while stopped in your pit stall.