Dan Leach wrote:
>
> no i hate it -- it sucks -- only ppl who cant drive computer games very well
> will like it
>
> (unhappy gp3 buyer)
I suck at driving GPL, but I love doing it. And I love driving GP3, too.
Amazing, isn't it?
You're really proud of your driving skills, aren't you? ;)
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Do fast GPL drivers like Grand Prix 3?
A poster asked whether anyone with a negative GPLRank handicap liked GP3. Answers were mixed, with some fast drivers enjoying it and others calling it a big disappointment. A side debate covered whether taking Eau Rouge flat in GP3 is unrealistic, with Richard Clegg noting it is possible with enough wing.
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In article <4%eh5.13$[email hidden]>, "Dan Leach"
<[email hidden]> writes:
Generalizations again. Tsk, tsk... Wrong. There are some very good drivers
who like it....
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>no i hate it -- it sucks -- only ppl who cant drive computer games very well >will like it > >(unhappy gp3 buyer) > Dan Leach gplrank -49.6 >MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Just wondered, out of interest. >> >> - Michael >> >> GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a big disappointment, >> I was hoping for *so* much more. >> >> >hey, i love it (have I said that before) ;-)
cheers,
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Honda handicap: -7,54
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:16:37 +0100, "Dan Leach"
<[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons thus:
>no i hate it -- it sucks -- only ppl who cant drive computer games very well
>will like it
<grin> Well, that's me, then. I can't keep a car on any track in
GPL for more than 2 corners...
Martin D. Pay
GPL would have been a really *great* piece of software if there
had just been an 'easy' mode for those of us without the
time/ability to drive at the top level...
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> >(unhappy gp3 buyer) > Dan Leach gplrank -49.6 >MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Just wondered, out of interest. >> >> - Michael >> >> GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a big disappointment, >> I was hoping for *so* much more. >> >> >There is an easy mode in GPL... drive slowly! But that would probably clash
with your idea of fun, right?
Jan.
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Martin D. Pay wrote...
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> <grin> Well, that's me, then. I can't keep a car on any track in > GPL for more than 2 corners... > > Martin D. Pay > GPL would have been a really *great* piece of software if there > had just been an 'easy' mode for those of us without the > time/ability to drive at the top level...On Mon 31 Jul 2000 02:16:37pm, Dan Leach wrote:
>no i hate it -- it sucks -- only ppl who cant drive computer games
>very well will like it
Hmmm. I think I am at least *reasonable* at GPL (Spa, anyway - into the
3:17s now :-) ), and I don't hate GP3. I don't like it as much as I
wanted to - it's got clunky graphics, poor sound and no real advances
over GP2 - but I won't be returning it. As I said elsewhere, I'd give
it 75% or so, as it's a good game, but could (and should) have been a
new benchmark. GPL2.5 is what it is.
--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -3.90)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
> Come and see us at http://vroc.net/ My ranking is -41 I think, I just
> resubmitted.
>
> Johnny
> Ackerman
>
What did you think of GP3 then, Johnny?
- Michael
Just wondered, out of interest.
- Michael
GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a big disappointment,
I was hoping for *so* much more.
What did you think of GP3 then, Johnny?
- Michael
no i hate it -- it sucks -- only ppl who cant drive computer games very well
will like it
(unhappy gp3 buyer)
Dan Leach gplrank -49.6
MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
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> Just wondered, out of interest. > > - Michael > > GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a big disappointment, > I was hoping for *so* much more. > >Come and see us at http://vroc.net/ My ranking is -41 I think, I just
resubmitted.
Johnny
Ackerman
MichaelJP wrote:
> Just wondered, out of interest.
>
> - Michael
>
> GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a big disappointment,
> I was hoping for *so* much more.
Dan, I like it :)
GPL rank -34 ish
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"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy."
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Dan Leach <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:4%eh5.13$[email hidden]...
> no i hate it -- it sucks -- only ppl who cant drive computer games very
well
> will like it
>
> (unhappy gp3 buyer)
> Dan Leach gplrank -49.6
> MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > Just wondered, out of interest.
> >
> > - Michael
> >
> > GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a big disappointment,
> > I was hoping for *so* much more.
> >
> >
>
>
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:44:54 +0200, "Jan Verschueren"
<[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons
thus:
>There is an easy mode in GPL... drive slowly! But that would probably clash
>with your idea of fun, right?
Somewhat, yes. A racing game is about racing... which is to say,
driving fast enough to beat the other guy.
And yes, I say 'game' quite deliberately. Everything I do on my
PC is either a game - or work.
Martin D. Pay
As I've posted before, I have nothing against those who have
time/skill enough to play GPL to the limit. But I don't have
either, so I don't find it much fun...
>Just wondered, out of interest.
-56.31, and I like it. Not as much as GPL though :-)
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In article <8m6j3v$su8$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
> Well Villeneuve has said that he could and did "for the laugh". Read
> some interviews. Don't know if he has in the "grooved tyre" era - but
> he certainly did in 97.
I'm not sure why the journalists make such a big thing out of this. As
you say, any driver who puts enough wing on can take Eau Rouge flat no
problem.
Exactly how much wing you would need to take off to make it a heroic feat
would be difficult to say. Jacques obviously erred on the low side last
year:-)
- Michael
Martin D. Pay wrote in message ...
>GPL would have been a really *great* piece of software if there
>had just been an 'easy' mode for those of us without the
>time/ability to drive at the top level...
There is an easy mode: the basic trainer. And you can even race against
basic trainers by tweaking a value in an ini file.
Bendito;
AAaaarrrgghh!! i hate it even more-- i just did eau rouge, blanchimont, the
last corner at spain and the 130r all flat out -- thats impossible --- silly
bloody game
:-((( dan leach
Ian P <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8m4ek8$fke$[email hidden]...
disappointment,
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> Dan, I like it :) > GPL rank -34 ish > -- > Ian Parker > "Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." > > <email invalid due to spam> > > > Dan Leach <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:4%eh5.13$[email hidden]... > > no i hate it -- it sucks -- only ppl who cant drive computer games very > well > > will like it > > > > (unhappy gp3 buyer) > > Dan Leach gplrank -49.6 > > MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Just wondered, out of interest. > > > > > > - Michael > > > > > > GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a bigQuoted text (7 lines)
> > > I was hoping for *so* much more. > > > > > > > > > > > >Dan Leach <[email hidden]> wrote:
: AAaaarrrgghh!! i hate it even more-- i just did eau rouge, blanchimont, the
: last corner at spain and the 130r all flat out -- thats impossible --- silly
: bloody game
: :-((( dan leach
No it isn't impossible Dan - it's easy if you've got lots of wing on.
All this stuff about "taking Eau Rouge flat" only applies to low
downforce settings. If you have low downforce then it's tricky to take
flat (but possible - villeneuve does it).
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Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving
Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/
AAaaarrrgghh!! i hate it even more-- i just did eau rouge, blanchimont, the
last corner at spain and the 130r all flat out -- thats impossible --- silly
***y game
:-((( dan leach
disappointment,
> > > I was hoping for *so* much more.
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> Dan, I like it :) > GPL rank -34 ish > -- > Ian Parker > "Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy." > <email invalid due to spam> > > no i hate it -- it sucks -- only ppl who cant drive computer games very > well > > will like it > > (unhappy gp3 buyer) > > Dan Leach gplrank -49.6 > > > Just wondered, out of interest. > > > - Michael > > > GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a bigno he doesnt -- he and zonta both tried it last year and are lucky to be
alive.... its not really a downforce thing its more to do with the wieght
transfer forward when you let off or brake. This allows the front wheels to
get round without massive understeer--- I dont think an F1 car with almost
full wing would do the 130r flat.....
Dan Leach
Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:8m6avc$5cs$[email hidden]...
> Dan Leach <[email hidden]> wrote:
> : AAaaarrrgghh!! i hate it even more-- i just did eau rouge, blanchimont,the
> : last corner at spain and the 130r all flat out -- thats impossible ---silly
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> : bloody game > : :-((( dan leach > > No it isn't impossible Dan - it's easy if you've got lots of wing on. > All this stuff about "taking Eau Rouge flat" only applies to low > downforce settings. If you have low downforce then it's tricky to take > flat (but possible - villeneuve does it). > > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/Dan Leach <[email hidden]> wrote:
: no he doesnt -- he and zonta both tried it last year and are lucky to be
: alive....
Villeneuve has taken Eau Rouge and 130R flat in previous seasons. And
yes, he has also crashed trying it.
But read some interviews with other drivers - some say they do
regularly - some say they couldn't and it's impossible.
: its not really a downforce thing its more to do with the wieght
: transfer forward when you let off or brake. This allows the front wheels to
: get round without massive understeer--- I dont think an F1 car with almost
: full wing would do the 130r flat.....
Well Villeneuve has said that he could and did "for the laugh". Read
some interviews. Don't know if he has in the "grooved tyre" era - but
he certainly did in 97.
It's common sense to me - put more wing on and Eau Rouge flat isn't a
problem - less and you'll spin off.
--
Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving
Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/
In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...
> -56.31, and I like it. Not as much as GPL though :-)
I take my hat off to your GPLRank:-)
GP3's OK - but don't you think it spoils your GPL technique, which is far
more about finesse, trail braking and throttle control, than the brute-
force manhandling of the GP3 cars.
- Michael
GPLRank -3.23
I guess you forgot about Villeneuve last year in practice when he rolled his car
at Eau Rouge. Flat out through that section is almost non existant.
Richard G Clegg wrote:
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> Dan Leach <[email hidden]> wrote: > : AAaaarrrgghh!! i hate it even more-- i just did eau rouge, blanchimont, the > : last corner at spain and the 130r all flat out -- thats impossible --- silly > : bloody game > : :-((( dan leach > > No it isn't impossible Dan - it's easy if you've got lots of wing on. > All this stuff about "taking Eau Rouge flat" only applies to low > downforce settings. If you have low downforce then it's tricky to take > flat (but possible - villeneuve does it). > > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/Mrv <[email hidden]> wrote:
: I guess you forgot about Villeneuve last year in practice when
: he rolled his car at Eau Rouge. Flat out through that section
: is almost non existant.
No I didn't forget that - but Villeneuve actually made it in other
years. And if he'd have (for whatever reason) stuffed loads of wing on
to his car he could do it easily.
:> No it isn't impossible Dan - it's easy if you've got lots of wing on.
:> All this stuff about "taking Eau Rouge flat" only applies to low
:> downforce settings. If you have low downforce then it's tricky to take
:> flat (but possible - villeneuve does it).
--
Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving
Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group
Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York
UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/
Off topic naturally but I cannot seem to stay focused on newsgroups.
Anyways....I have wanted to thank you for the setups you posted...they
have helped me understand GPL a bit more than I did prior to using
your setups.
PAPA DOC
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>Graeme Nash
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On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 22:16:33 +0200,
[email hidden] (Uwe Schuerkamp) mangled
uncounted electrons thus:
<grin> I tried Monaco in GPL last night, just to test out my new
FF wheel. It's my least favourite circuit in any racing
sim/game...
I drove slowly enough to stay on the track, all right. My lap
time was 2:36... :(:(:(
I've never been able to see the appeal of Monaco as a venue.
Martin D. Pay
Who finds in general that a good FF wheel actually does make GPL
slightly more manageable...
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>In article <[email hidden]>, >Martin D. Pay <[email hidden]> wrote: >>On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:44:54 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" >><[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons >>thus: >> >>>There is an easy mode in GPL... drive slowly! But that would probably clash >>>with your idea of fun, right? >> >>Somewhat, yes. A racing game is about racing... which is to say, >>driving fast enough to beat the other guy. > >"Racing is not about going fast. It's about going slow enough to stay >on the track" ;-)In article <[email hidden]>,
Martin D. Pay <[email hidden]> wrote:
"Racing is not about going fast. It's about going slow enough to stay
on the track" ;-)
Cheers,
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>On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:44:54 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" ><[email hidden]> mangled uncounted electrons >thus: > >>There is an easy mode in GPL... drive slowly! But that would probably clash >>with your idea of fun, right? > >Somewhat, yes. A racing game is about racing... which is to say, >driving fast enough to beat the other guy.<Sigh>
cannot vote :-(
Jens
On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:10:04 +0100, MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote:
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>Just wondered, out of interest. > >- Michael > >GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a big disappointment, >I was hoping for *so* much more. >In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...
Still - not long until you're negative:-)
- Michael
GPLRank: -3.23
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> <Sigh> > cannot vote :-( > > Jens > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 13:10:04 +0100, MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Just wondered, out of interest. > > > >- Michael > > > >GPLRank -1.79 , and for the record, I think GP3 is a big disappointment, > >I was hoping for *so* much more. > > > > --------------------------------------------- > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: > http://members.xoom.com/JensSchu/ > > GPLRank: +1.80If so, I will feel very positive ;-)
Jens
On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:04:43 +0100, MichaelJP <[email hidden]> wrote:
>Still - not long until you're negative:-)
>
>- Michael
>GPLRank: -3.23
>
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