Re: Well I like it and yah boo, sucks to you! RASP!

>Is that the way you feel about it? YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! OOooooooh GOD YES!! Ahem, excuse me :o) GP3 seems, in my opinion, to have the the physics of a Formula One car absolutly correct (not that I could say for sure, of course but I've seen them on telly lots :)). The car has to be driven very precisely, it's quite a challenge, but when you do a good lap, it really feels like a good lap. You can really attack the kerbs too, which is fun and getting the power down without losing momentum is a real challenge! Another thing I noticed is that I could weave the car form side to side to warm up my tyres and feel in complete control; you can't do this in GP2! I'm prolly not making any sense, but I'm very happy with my 1:17.432 I just set at Montreal. rrevved wrote:

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> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:33:37 +0100, Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I see no problems with GP3; excellent, IMO. > > > >Rob > > Hey Rob. It feels like a race car, doesn't it? I raced SCCA > FF/FV/CSR (a long time ago) and GP3 gives me that old rush again... > And it does a better job of providing that 'rush' than any other > sim. This is hard to describe, but to me it has a non-sterile feeling. > ie: It doesn't feel as 'plastic' as many of the other sims do. > It feels like a yelping, vibrating racecar. Is that the way > you feel about it? > > Tell us more!

Thats the point for me to Rob the car feel's alive and when I'm racing the race seems alive too. I've said a couple of times on this group now GPL mayeb the best simulation of a car. But GP3 is by far the best simulation of a race that I have ever experienced the weather takes this game into a different league from the rest. Regards Mike On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:59:52 +0100, Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>Is that the way you feel about it? > >YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! >YES! YES! OOooooooh GOD YES!! > >Ahem, excuse me :o) GP3 seems, in my opinion, to have the the physics of a Formula One car >absolutly correct (not that I could say for sure, of course but I've seen them on telly >lots :)). The car has to be driven very precisely, it's quite a challenge, but when you do >a good lap, it really feels like a good lap. You can really attack the kerbs too, which is >fun and getting the power down without losing momentum is a real challenge! Another thing I >noticed is that I could weave the car form side to side to warm up my tyres and feel in >complete control; you can't do this in GP2! > >I'm prolly not making any sense, but I'm very happy with my 1:17.432 I just set at >Montreal. > >rrevved wrote: > >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 10:33:37 +0100, Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >I see no problems with GP3; excellent, IMO. >> > >> >Rob >> >> Hey Rob. It feels like a race car, doesn't it? I raced SCCA >> FF/FV/CSR (a long time ago) and GP3 gives me that old rush again... >> And it does a better job of providing that 'rush' than any other >> sim. This is hard to describe, but to me it has a non-sterile feeling. >> ie: It doesn't feel as 'plastic' as many of the other sims do. >> It feels like a yelping, vibrating racecar. Is that the way >> you feel about it? >> >> Tell us more!

Rob Swindells wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >I see no problems with GP3; excellent, IMO. Why do you like it? Too many "me too" posts (whether pro or con) in this forum. Bendito;

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> Rob Swindells wrote in message <[email hidden]>... > >I see no problems with GP3; excellent, IMO. > > Why do you like it? Too many "me too" posts (whether pro or con) in this > forum. > > Bendito;

I like it, cause I liked GP2, and since it is the sequel with a lot better graphics, brilliant weather effects, brilliant AI, and it doesn't take a Gigaherz CPU to run it properly. It's fun driving, it's realistic and it's smoooooth, what else do you want?? Another grfx heavy sim that will bring even next years CPU to it's knees??? Come one, be happy that Crammond finally realised that he's there to make money, not to please himself. I think it's the perfect deal state-of-the-art F1 sim and clever marketing.

I see no problems with GP3; excellent, IMO. Rob

I see no problems with GP3; excellent, IMO. Rob

spoke: Brilliant AI? That's why the AI cars are forever rear ending me? -- Nos

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:04:48 -0500, rrevved More like "more brake for the AI" - Nos. -- Nos

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:25:18 +0200, Roger <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >brilliant AI, Brilliant AI? That's why the AI cars are forever rear ending me? -- Nos

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 11:04:48 -0500, rrevved <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >"Less Brake" - Juan Manuel Fangio > More like "more brake for the AI" - Nos. -- Nos

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:39:09 +0100, "Graham Triggs" <[email hidden]> thus spoke:

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>What's wrong with that? The AI would be fucked if they NEVER rear ended >you - remember GOOD AI should take into account available and visual cues >and driver reaction time - if you brake early for a corner and there is >another car behind you it SHOULD run into the back of you... > >My personal hate about driving games AI is that they often stick to the >racing line - ignoring the fact that you've come alongside on the inside of >a corner... > >G >

Geez, I'm getting a bit fed up with all you GP3 - GC can do no wrong - apologists. I'm talking about cars that rear end you just because you are not going fast enough for their liking, not because I'm braking. I'm talking about a Ferrari that rear ended me as I was leaving the pits. I don't hate GP3, but I don't love it either. Can't even post constructive criticism around here. -- Nos

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:25:18 +0200, Roger <[email hidden]> thus > spoke: > > >brilliant AI, > > Brilliant AI? That's why the AI cars are forever rear ending me? What's wrong with that? The AI would be fucked if they NEVER rear ended you - remember GOOD AI should take into account available and visual cues and driver reaction time - if you brake early for a corner and there is another car behind you it SHOULD run into the back of you... My personal hate about driving games AI is that they often stick to the racing line - ignoring the fact that you've come alongside on the inside of a corner... G

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 20:59:52 +0100, Rob Swindells <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>Is that the way you feel about it? > >YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! >YES! YES! OOooooooh GOD YES!! > >Ahem, excuse me :o) GP3 seems, in my opinion, to have the the physics of a Formula One car >absolutly correct (not that I could say for sure, of course but I've seen them on telly >lots :)). The car has to be driven very precisely, it's quite a challenge, but when you do >a good lap, it really feels like a good lap. You can really attack the kerbs too, which is >fun and getting the power down without losing momentum is a real challenge! Another thing I >noticed is that I could weave the car form side to side to warm up my tyres and feel in >complete control; you can't do this in GP2! > >I'm prolly not making any sense, but I'm very happy with my 1:17.432 I just set at >Montreal. >

Rob,what gives you the right to enjoy GP3.The self proclaimed experts here on RAS know all about F1 cars and how they handle.You simply can't enjoy GP3,you're not allowed to. : D Dave

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 21:31:37 GMT, [email hidden] wrote: >Geez, I'm getting a bit fed up with all you GP3 - GC can do no wrong - >apologists. I'm talking about cars that rear end you just because you >are not going fast enough for their liking, not because I'm braking. Wow, John Surtees is in GP3?!? ;) "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

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> > > Geez, I'm getting a bit fed up with all you GP3 - GC can do no wrong - > apologists. I'm talking about cars that rear end you just because you > are not going fast enough for their liking, not because I'm braking. > I'm talking about a Ferrari that rear ended me as I was leaving the > pits. I don't hate GP3, but I don't love it either. Can't even post > constructive criticism around here. > -- > Nos

Maybe you should stay away from the racing line when you're leaving the pit ;-)) I really spend many hours with GP3 allready, and I nobody ever rear-ended my car... I did ran into some myself though....;-)) Roger

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> On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:25:18 +0200, Roger <[email hidden]> thus > spoke: > > >brilliant AI, > > Brilliant AI? That's why the AI cars are forever rear ending me? > -- > Nos

Maybe you're too damn slow ;-)) Jos Verstappen just rear-ended Villeneuve in warm-up this morning, cause Jacques was just too damn slow....simple as that! So it's realistic, don't complain, learn how to drive!!! Regards, Roger

Rob Swindells wrote in message <[email hidden]>... >Ahem, excuse me :o) GP3 seems, in my opinion, to have the the physics of aFormula One car >absolutly correct (not that I could say for sure, of course but I've seenthem on telly >lots :)). The car has to be driven very precisely, it's quite a challenge,but when you do >a good lap, it really feels like a good lap. You can really attack thekerbs too, which is >fun and getting the power down without losing momentum is a real challenge!Another thing I >noticed is that I could weave the car form side to side to warm up my tyresand feel in >complete control; you can't do this in GP2! This is what I was looking for, Rob. I just can't stand those "me too!" posts. Give me reasons why you like it or hate it, boys and girls! :) Bendito;

At last, someone talking sense :-) -- -Ace- (GPLRank +0.29) Dave K <[email hidden]> wrote > Rob,what gives you the right to enjoy GP3.The self proclaimed experts > here on RAS know all about F1 cars and how they handle.You simply > can't enjoy GP3,you're not allowed to. : D > > Dave >

At last, someone talking sense :-) -- -Ace- (GPLRank +0.29)

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:59:04 +0200, Roger <[email hidden]> thus spoke:

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>Maybe you're too damn slow ;-)) >Jos Verstappen just rear-ended Villeneuve in warm-up this morning, cause >Jacques was just too damn slow....simple as that! >So it's realistic, don't complain, learn how to drive!!! > >Regards, > >Roger >

I can see that happening on occasion, but not in every race. Just like every other race doesn't have rain in real life, but it does in GP3. -- Nos

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:03:28 +0200, Roger <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Maybe you should stay away from the racing line when you're leaving the pit ;-)) Ah..see? Why should I have to stay away from the racing line. The AI should be smart enough to know to move around me to pass and not try to go through me. Take the blindfolds off the AI drivers and it should be ok. -- Nos

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> On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:03:28 +0200, Roger <[email hidden]> thus > spoke: > > >Maybe you should stay away from the racing line when you're leaving the pit ;-)) > > Ah..see? Why should I have to stay away from the racing line. The AI > should be smart enough to know to move around me to pass and not try > to go through me. Take the blindfolds off the AI drivers and it should > be ok. > -- > Nos

So you think it's totally normal for a F1 driver to come out of the pitlane at let's say 150 km/h and move directly onto the race-line while others are coming from behind, doing let's say 290 km/h ??? I'm afraid to ask....but errmm.... are you Ricardo Rosset??? Regards, Roger

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 23:01:48 GMT, [email hidden] (Jeff Vincent) thus spoke: > Wow, John Surtees is in GP3?!? ;) In every car too. -- Nos

thus spoke: In every car too. -- Nos

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>Thats the point for me to Rob the car feel's alive and when I'm racing >the race seems alive too. > >I've said a couple of times on this group now GPL mayeb the best >simulation of a car. But GP3 is by far the best simulation of a race >that I have ever experienced the weather takes this game into a >different league from the rest. > >Regards Mike

Precisely as many times I opted for a wet setup hoping it would rain soon into the race� as you could have guessed� sometimes it worked out my way and sometimes don't. Great fun! Joe