Re: GP3 - Throtle always on?

i�ve got the same problem so i guess its a bug or something that has been overseen Otherwise great game. Karl Jennings [email hidden] [email hidden]

it is tickover... F1 sim pedals here.... a real engine would stall in 1st if you werent moving, so the anti stall keeps the revs up and you go forward in 1st... pez Richard G Clegg wrote in message <8lv4hk$spd$[email hidden]>... >GPL freak <gpl@nofu**ingspam!.com> wrote: >: Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have2

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>: pedals... :(( > >: R4 <[email hidden]> kirjoitti >: viestiss:8lv2c4$f57$[email hidden]... >:> it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select >:> neutral or press the clutch. > > Wish GP3 throttle always on thing was tickover - it's actually a >miscallibration problem with MSFF wheels - it thinks you've got the >throttle part way down all the time. > > (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with >tickover). > > I'm waiting until it works with my hardware until I fully judge GP3 >since callibration split axis and FF don't work properly with my wheel. >You wouldn't have thought the MSFF was an obscure wheel would you. > >-- >Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing somewhere? The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back around but it won't. I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas? -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select neutral or press the clutch. Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:s3+fZBAF$[email hidden]...

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> > Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing > somewhere? > The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants > to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example > you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back > around but it won't. > > I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't > think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas? > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

Thx! :)

spoke: Yea really, no other sim I own does this and nor does my real car. -- Nos

Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have 2 pedals... :(( R4 <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:8lv2c4$f57$[email hidden]... > it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select > neutral or press the clutch.

GPL freak <gpl@nofu**ingspam!.com> wrote: : Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have 2 : pedals... :(( : R4 <[email hidden]> kirjoitti : viestiss:8lv2c4$f57$[email hidden]... :> it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select :> neutral or press the clutch. Wish GP3 throttle always on thing was tickover - it's actually a miscallibration problem with MSFF wheels - it thinks you've got the throttle part way down all the time. (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with tickover). I'm waiting until it works with my hardware until I fully judge GP3 since callibration split axis and FF don't work properly with my wheel. You wouldn't have thought the MSFF was an obscure wheel would you. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Thx! :) Alan <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:[email hidden]... > Hold down the gear lever (not press) and it acts as a clutch. > > Alan

"Richard G Clegg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lv4hk$spd$[email hidden]... > GPL freak <gpl@nofu**ingspam!.com> wrote: > : Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have2

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> : pedals... :(( > > : R4 <[email hidden]> kirjoitti > : viestiss:8lv2c4$f57$[email hidden]... > :> it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select > :> neutral or press the clutch. > > Wish GP3 throttle always on thing was tickover - it's actually a > miscallibration problem with MSFF wheels - it thinks you've got the > throttle part way down all the time.

It does this on my ACTLabs non-force wheel. I think its tickover.

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> (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with > tickover). > > I'm waiting until it works with my hardware until I fully judge GP3 > since callibration split axis and FF don't work properly with my wheel. > You wouldn't have thought the MSFF was an obscure wheel would you. > > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

hmmm thx Graeme, I thought it was only me and the fact that split axis doesn't work. My wants to roll when I put it in 1st, but not in the pits, only when I accelerate then stop does it want to roll with partial throttle. -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Official member: Screamers Racing League Sim Racing Mag Honda Challenge Sim Racing Mag F2 Ferrari GPL Rank 33.40 ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: Plans?, Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?

Hold down the gear lever (not press) and it acts as a clutch. Alan GPL freak wrote:

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> > Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have 2 > pedals... :(( > > R4 <[email hidden]> kirjoitti > viestiss�:8lv2c4$f57$[email hidden]... > > it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select > > neutral or press the clutch.

> Wish GP3 throttle always on thing was tickover - it's actually a > miscallibration problem with MSFF wheels - it thinks you've got the > throttle part way down all the time.It happens with my TSW2Mod wheel too. After I've stopped, I put in 1st and the car rolls along with out any input from me. -- Richard "ZZ" Busch Official member: Screamers Racing League Sim Racing Mag Honda Challenge Sim Racing Mag F2 Ferrari GPL Rank 33.40 ---------------- Busch Motorsports: Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward ----------------- Busch Carpentry: Plans?, Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?

On 29 Jul 2000 17:33:40 GMT, Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with >tickover). Yea really, no other sim I own does this and nor does my real car. -- Nos

If it happens with the keyboard then it's nothing to do with any particular controller. "Richard G Clegg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lv4hk$spd$[email hidden]... > GPL freak <gpl@nofu**ingspam!.com> wrote: > : Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have2

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> : pedals... :(( > > : R4 <[email hidden]> kirjoitti > : viestiss:8lv2c4$f57$[email hidden]... > :> it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select > :> neutral or press the clutch. > > Wish GP3 throttle always on thing was tickover - it's actually a > miscallibration problem with MSFF wheels - it thinks you've got the > throttle part way down all the time. > > (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with > tickover). > > I'm waiting until it works with my hardware until I fully judge GP3 > since callibration split axis and FF don't work properly with my wheel. > You wouldn't have thought the MSFF was an obscure wheel would you. > > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

It is normal for all cars to do it, just think first gear is engaged and the engine is turning! <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On 29 Jul 2000 17:33:40 GMT, Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> thus > spoke: > > > > (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with > >tickover). > > Yea really, no other sim I own does this and nor does my real car. > -- > Nos

I get same thing on a TM analog wheel, its just tickover like someone mentioned Martyn_D Richard G Clegg wrote:

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> GPL freak <gpl@nofu**ingspam!.com> wrote: > : Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have 2 > : pedals... :(( > > : R4 <[email hidden]> kirjoitti > : viestiss:8lv2c4$f57$[email hidden]... > :> it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select > :> neutral or press the clutch. > > Wish GP3 throttle always on thing was tickover - it's actually a > miscallibration problem with MSFF wheels - it thinks you've got the > throttle part way down all the time. > > (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with > tickover). > > I'm waiting until it works with my hardware until I fully judge GP3 > since callibration split axis and FF don't work properly with my wheel. > You wouldn't have thought the MSFF was an obscure wheel would you. > > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:26:21 +0100, "Lee Armstrong" <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >It is normal for all cars to do it, just think first gear is engaged and the >engine is turning! Hmmm...I'll have to go out and test this in my real car now. :-) -- Nos

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> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:26:21 +0100, "Lee Armstrong" > <[email hidden]> thus spoke: > > >It is normal for all cars to do it, just think first gear is engaged and the > >engine is turning! > > Hmmm...I'll have to go out and test this in my real car now. :-)

Does your real car have 800 HP, idle revs in the thousands, and a shitload of torque? :-) Actually, my wussy 323F/Astina GT with mere 135 HP does just that when I declutch. And it's idle revs are only around 700. -lark-

It`s a BIG bug, it does it on my Logitech... it also makes the down shift slow, as well as brakes bad !! Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:s3+fZBAF$[email hidden]...

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> > Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing > somewhere? > The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants > to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example > you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back > around but it won't. > > I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't > think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas? > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

Put my dads Mercedes C250 auto into drive and it goes without input from the accel pedal....when you put it in drive you're supposed to be on the brake.... all autos do it (the toyota auto ive driven did it, as did the c180 merc auto ive driven)...and semi autos do it as well..... It aint no bug...its an anti stall measure......if you're in gear, you're supposed to be moving..... pez Graeme Nash wrote in message ...

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> >Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing >somewhere? >The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants >to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example >you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back >around but it won't. > >I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't >think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas? > >-- >Cheers! >Graeme Nash

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:54:50 +0000, Joona Vainio <[email hidden]> thus spoke: >Does your real car have 800 HP, idle revs in the thousands, and a >shitload of torque? :-) You bet! Nah, actually it's an automatic transmission. 6 cyl. 3.8L. :-) >Actually, my wussy 323F/Astina GT with mere 135 HP does just that when I >declutch. And it's idle revs are only around 700. OK, then I guess GP3 is more realistic in that area than all other sims. -- Nos

It's not just the MSFF - mu Guilly does it and Graeme posted earlier that his whole museum of controllers did the same. Either its a feature of a core game bug. So what do semi-automatic geraboxes with stall prevention do at the standstill in 1st ? Andy Richard G Clegg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lv4hk$spd$[email hidden]... > GPL freak <gpl@nofu**ingspam!.com> wrote: > : Too bad you can't assign a button for the clutch as most of us only have2

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> : pedals... :(( > > : R4 <[email hidden]> kirjoitti > : viestiss:8lv2c4$f57$[email hidden]... > :> it's called tickover. It happens in all real cars. The answer is select > :> neutral or press the clutch. > > Wish GP3 throttle always on thing was tickover - it's actually a > miscallibration problem with MSFF wheels - it thinks you've got the > throttle part way down all the time. > > (Anyone thinking it's tickover - you don't _accelerate_ with > tickover). > > I'm waiting until it works with my hardware until I fully judge GP3 > since callibration split axis and FF don't work properly with my wheel. > You wouldn't have thought the MSFF was an obscure wheel would you. > > -- > Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving > Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group > Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York > UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Paulinho wrote: > > It`s a BIG bug, it does it on my Logitech... it also makes the down shift > slow, as well as brakes bad !! Um... the downshift is SUPPOSED to be slower than in GP2. You can't actually downshift as fast as you did in GP2 or some other sims. The transmission and engine couldn't take it. -lark-

I get the same with my Ferrari FF wheel also IJ Peter Cook <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8aKg5.21092$[email hidden]... > Not too sure of the exact amount, but F1 Engines idle at a very high level > > 3000 rpm I believe. An as for accellerating on idle, it is possible to > accellerate in a normal road car without toaching the throttle, changegears

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> even..... > > > "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:s3+fZBAF$[email hidden]... > > > > Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing > > somewhere? > > The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants > > to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example > > you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back > > around but it won't. > > > > I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't > > think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas? > > > > -- > > Cheers! > > Graeme Nash > >

On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:54:50 +0000, Joona Vainio You bet! Nah, actually it's an automatic transmission. 6 cyl. 3.8L. :-) OK, then I guess GP3 is more realistic in that area than all other sims. -- Nos

Not too sure of the exact amount, but F1 Engines idle at a very high level > 3000 rpm I believe. An as for accellerating on idle, it is possible to accellerate in a normal road car without toaching the throttle, change gears even..... "Graeme Nash" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:s3+fZBAF$[email hidden]...

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> > Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing > somewhere? > The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants > to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example > you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back > around but it won't. > > I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't > think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas? > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

Peter Cook <[email hidden]> wrote: : Not too sure of the exact amount, but F1 Engines idle at a very high level > : 3000 rpm I believe. An as for accellerating on idle, it is possible to : accellerate in a normal road car without toaching the throttle, change gears : even..... Hm... apologies for saying this was a controller bug - I'd assumed this because of set up difficulties with the microsoft wheel. It's merely pretty stupid. Bung the car into gear and it chugs off at 11mph. In reality it would stall or automatically pop the clutch in if it had some kind of stall prevention. Damn silly in any case (but the least of the games faults). Has anyone got Microsoft force feedback working? I can either have NO forcefeedback ifI don't check Map Y to X or I can have wrong forcefeedback. Leave the car stationary in the pits, turn the wheel left and there's no resistance - turn it right and it feels like there's a big weight preventing it. -- Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving Networks and Non-Linear Dynamics Group Dept. of Mathematics, Uni. of York UPDATED WWW: http://manor.york.ac.uk/

Werner Huber wrote: > > Same here with my Logitech joystick. I think it's tickover. > > Btw I was very happy when I recognized it, because it was the first (and > only?) new feature compared to GP2 :-)) Then you really need to turn ON your monitor... ;) -- l8er ronny Your mouse has moved. Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. Reboot now? |\ _,,,---,,_ I want to die like my Grandfather, ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ in his sleep. |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Not like the people in his car, '---''(_/--' `-'\_) screaming their heads off!

Same here with my Logitech joystick. I think it's tickover. Btw I was very happy when I recognized it, because it was the first (and only?) new feature compared to GP2 :-)) Have fun Werner Graeme Nash wrote:

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> > Has anyone else noticed this, or is there a setting I'm missing > somewhere? > The throttle in GP3 is always slightly "on", and the car naturally wants > to drive along at around 19mph. This is a bit annoying when, for example > you're trying to recover from a spin and you'd like the car to roll back > around but it won't. > > I've had this problem with a TMF1, MSFF and the keyboard, so I don't > think it's a controller problem. Any other ideas? > > -- > Cheers! > Graeme Nash

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] wrote: > Paulinho wrote: > > > > It`s a BIG bug, it does it on my Logitech...it also makes the down shift > > slow, as well as brakes bad !! > > Um... the downshift is SUPPOSED to be slowerthan in GP2. You can't > actually downshift as fast as you did in GP2 orsome other sims. The > transmission and engine couldn't take it. > > -lark- > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

> > It`s a BIG bug, it does it on my Logitech... it also makes the down shift than in GP2. You can't some other sims. The Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.