Re: GP3 SPINS ARE CANNED AND I CAN PROVE IT!

>Make sure you have the sensitivity adjusted to full analogue on your pedals. > >Marc. Finally! Someone with a useful reply! :-) ----------------------------------------- Dan Belcher Team Racing Unlimited http://simcrash.00game.com

Hey, Floor the throttle from standing in 1st gear in an F1 car and see how long you last facing in one direction. And don't go shouting that it doesn't happen in GPL cos they're different cars (higher, softer, 1/2 the power etc).

You've never seen Jensen Button do a "300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival" What you saw was Jensen Button do a 100 burn out at the Goodwood Festival of Speed. I was there. Doug Danny <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]...

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> All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are > not canned ok then. > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in > first gear. > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real

life > F1 cars. > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel to > control the car and keep it straight. > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car withthe

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> wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws > you off when it decides it wants too. > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd > gear > all aids off of course. > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in

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> grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > Pathetic. > > > >

are you done trolling GP3 now? "Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]...

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> All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are > not canned ok then. > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in > first gear. > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real

life > F1 cars. > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel to > control the car and keep it straight. > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car withthe

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> wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws > you off when it decides it wants too. > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd > gear > all aids off of course. > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in

the

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> grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > Pathetic. > > > >

Are you going to learn how to reply properly to a post? "Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:h5Ue5.1819$[email hidden]...

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> Are you done defending it? > > > > > > > > Danny <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]... > > All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins

are > > not canned ok then. > > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If youfloor

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> > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You > > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in > > first gear. > > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real > life > > F1 cars. > > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel

to > > control the car and keep it straight. > > > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car with > the > > wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it stillthrows > > you off when it decides it wants too. > > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speedfestival

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> > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd > > gear > > all aids off of course. > > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in > the > > grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > > > Pathetic. > > > > > > > > > >

hehehe...you guys are very funny... I agree with sjon that the original post is sorta ermmm....very one sided. But...danny dude does have a point. I've been driving for days now (ALL aids off including steeringhelp, for those who really believe everyone who has a negative thing to say about how it drives is actually a moron with all driving aids on..gg) And he is right...it is more forgiving in the rain and i finally have been able to do something which could be considered a controled back slide out of a corner in the wet... I think it's normal for the wet cause there's less traction and less friction between the road and tires..so everything is smoother and happens for gently. But pulling away like a mad man in the dry or wet , or a burnout, things shown at shows like what he saw J.button do, and at the start of a race is indeed impossible.. You loose the car...period... I can drive away full trottle after letting the clutch go and keep it straight for not more the a few meters...and that's with easing off the throttle... I would not dare to call it canned. But... my idea is that it's certaily *far* from dymanic and force based as in GPL... And for the lamers who go " there's one of them GPL people again"... is there something wrong with wanting/hoping for an F1 sim which achieves the same thing as GPL as far as it concerns physics...don't think there is. cheers, willem

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>from:danny >Have fun trying cause you wont do it. >As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car with the >wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws >you off when it decides it wants too. >I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival >Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd >gear all aids off of course. >from: "Sjon Stigter" >Are you going to learn how to reply properly to a post? >>from:"Danny" >> Are you done defending it?

are you done trolling GP3 now?

Are you done defending it?

<snip> While close to the edge of a cliff <eg> -- -Ace- (GPLRank +1.13)

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:18:46 +0100, "Douglas Ellison" <[email hidden]> wrote: >You've never seen Jensen Button do a "300 meter burn out at the goodwill >speed festival" >What you saw was Jensen Button do a 100 burn out at the Goodwood Festival of >Speed. I was there. > >Doug Q: what implications does this have for the original poster's credibility A: ............. JoH

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:41:18 GMT, "Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote: >lol,i read it was hundreds or meters >did you have a tape measure there did u? >Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters >point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all the >gears >I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second Others seem to be able to. Maybe you are just not good enough? JoH

I've had the back tires spin in 3rd.. i've even had the rear end get loose on me on turn exit and caught it... Martyn_D Danny wrote:

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> lol,i read it was hundreds or meters > did you have a tape measure there did u? > Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters > point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all the > gears > I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second > > Jo Helsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:18:46 +0100, "Douglas Ellison" > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >You've never seen Jensen Button do a "300 meter burn out at the goodwill > > >speed festival" > > >What you saw was Jensen Button do a 100 burn out at the Goodwood Festival > of > > >Speed. I was there. > > > > > >Doug > > > > Q: what implications does this have for the original poster's > > credibility > > > > A: ............. > > > > > > JoH

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:00:50 GMT, "Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Yeah you are right dude,i dont know how to floor the throttle and make the >car spin,they can all floor the throttle beter than me cant they. >You stupid idiot,have u even played the game? >Go back to need for speed fuckwit Hmmm.... No wonder the English dropped you on that island far, far away. JoH

Is replying really that difficult??? "Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hVVe5.1831$[email hidden]... > lol,i read it was hundreds or meters > did you have a tape measure there did u? > Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters > point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost allthe

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> gears > I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second > Sjon Stigter <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:8lh1hs$njo$[email hidden]... > > are you done trolling GP3 now? > > > > > > > > "Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]... > > > All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins > are > > > not canned ok then. > > > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you > floor > > > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin

out.You > > > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spinsin

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> > > first gear. > > > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > > > > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > > > > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > > > > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in

real > > life > > > F1 cars. > > > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with thewheel > to > > > control the car and keep it straight. > > > > > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > > > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the carwith

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> > the > > > wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still > throws > > > you off when it decides it wants too. > > > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed > festival > > > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone

3rd > > > gear > > > all aids off of course. > > > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttlein

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> > the > > > grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > > > > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > > > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > > > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > > > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > > > > > Pathetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:16:13 +1000, "ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>> >>Hmmm.... No wonder the English dropped you on that island far, far >>away. >> >>JoH > >And this coming from a BELGIAN ??? > >HA FUCKIN' HA. > >Just remember whose gravestones you have out there. > >That's right, the people who saved your nations ass !!!

I don't have D.'s gravestone out here. Neither did he save my nations ass. Besides, with Hitler located in New Zealand it would have been just the other way around my guess! JoH

Make sure you have the sensitivity adjusted to full analogue on your pedals. Marc. "Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]...

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> All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are > not canned ok then. > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in > first gear. > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real

life > F1 cars. > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel to > control the car and keep it straight. > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car withthe

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> wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws > you off when it decides it wants too. > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd > gear > all aids off of course. > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in

the

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> grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > Pathetic. > > > >

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:41:34 +1000, "ExMrBlonde" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >> >>>> >>>>Hmmm.... No wonder the English dropped you on that island far, far >>>>away. >>>> >>>>JoH >>> >>>And this coming from a BELGIAN ??? >>> >>>HA FUCKIN' HA. >>> >>>Just remember whose gravestones you have out there. >>> >>>That's right, the people who saved your nations ass !!! >> >>I don't have D.'s gravestone out here. Neither did he save my nations >>ass. >> >>Besides, with Hitler located in New Zealand it would have been just >>the other way around my guess! >> >>JoH > > >>>>Hmmm.... No wonder the English dropped you on that island far, far >away. > >So are we talking about Danny here, or all Aussies ???

Naaah... What I SHOULD have typed is: "Danny, you are Australian. So if your parents aren't Aboriginals, then your far ancestors must have been criminals dropped as far away as possible by the English. Contrary to most native Australians, this bad behaviour was most probably geneticly determined in your ancestors, causing a severe uncurable tendency towards bad-mouthing and unreasonable behaviour even in later generations. I therefore accuse you of confirming the totally false and dumb stereotype that Australians must be bad people because some of their ancestors were supposed to be." But it had to be "catchy", so I had to simplify and therefore introduced confusion. So to clear up: it was Danny who I was crushing (he's probably still weeping somewhere in a corner of the room) ;-) Now let's get back to -preferrably balanced- discussion of the latest sims. JoH, extremely thankful that some *nice* Australians helped save the ass of his nation.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:10:11 GMT, Rod Prince <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] says... > >> "Danny, you are Australian. So if your parents aren't Aboriginals, >> then your far ancestors must have been criminals dropped as far away >> as possible by the English. Contrary to most native Australians, this >> bad behaviour was most probably geneticly determined in your >> ancestors, causing a severe uncurable tendency towards bad-mouthing >> and unreasonable behaviour even in later generations. I therefore >> accuse you of confirming the totally false and dumb stereotype that >> Australians must be bad people because some of their ancestors were >> supposed to be." > >I suspect you need to learn *alot* more about Australia before you can >make such sweeping claims. > >I don't suppose you've ever heard of the word, 'migration'? > >Cheers, >Rod. > - Australian whos ancestors weren't sent here for being criminals.

Look, I needed to insult the guy. And it is well known that in that kind of situation you throw reasonableness out of the window. (like he does in all his "impressions" of GP3) Ok? :-) JoH

Are you serious? You can't get wheelspin in second gear? Are you playing on the keys or with the driving aids on or something? You can definitely get wheelspin in second gear. :)

Danny <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]...

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> All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are > not canned ok then. > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in > first gear. > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real

life > F1 cars. > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel to > control the car and keep it straight. > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car withthe

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> wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws > you off when it decides it wants too. > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd > gear > all aids off of course. > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in

the

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> grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > Pathetic. >

I'd like to see you floor the throttle in any racing sim/car without easing off and see how far you get :-)

GraDee <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lhuiu$lgj$[email hidden]... <snip> > > I'd like to see you floor the throttle in any racing sim/car withouteasing > off and see how far you get :-) > >While close to the edge of a cliff <eg> -- -Ace- (GPLRank +1.13)

All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are not canned ok then. I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in first gear. ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real life F1 cars. Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel to control the car and keep it straight. Have fun trying cause you wont do it. As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car with the wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws you off when it decides it wants too. I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd gear all aids off of course. The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in the grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. Pathetic.

Same here....... SKurj <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I've had the back tires spin in 3rd.. > i've even had the rear end get loose on me on turn exit and caught it... > > Martyn_D > > Danny wrote: > > > lol,i read it was hundreds or meters > > did you have a tape measure there did u? > > Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters > > point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all

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> > gears > > I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second > > > > Jo Helsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:18:46 +0100, "Douglas Ellison" > > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > > > >You've never seen Jensen Button do a "300 meter burn out at the

goodwill > > > >speed festival" > > > >What you saw was Jensen Button do a 100 burn out at the GoodwoodFestival

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> > of > > > >Speed. I was there. > > > > > > > >Doug > > > > > > Q: what implications does this have for the original poster's > > > credibility > > > > > > A: ............. > > > > > > > > > JoH >

In article <SdWe5.1835$[email hidden]>, "Danny" <[email hidden]> writes: >Yeah you are right dude,i dont know how to floor the throttle and make the >car spin,they can all floor the throttle beter than me cant they. >You stupid idiot,have u even played the game? >Go back to need for speed fuckwit Namecalling - the last refuge.... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +69.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]>, "Danny" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are >not canned ok then. >I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor >the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You >cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in >first gear. >ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF

Sounds like F1 2K... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +69.95 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

No, you can kick the back out with the throttle and hold with the wheel... GP3's not that bad, just not as "talkative" as the other sims. Jan. =--- Simon Brown wrote... > It is true that you can't control a spin without lifting. > >

Hmmm... I think I see where the difference lies. In GPL you can sometimes hold a drift with a constant wheel and throttle input. In GP3 you need to adapt to several quick, fairly brutal steering corrections while you keep your foot in it. Which doesn't mean floored... enough to either spin up the rears or kick out the back, but not floored (would be very amazed if the real guys did except for power spinning). Guess I automatically switched to GP2 mode when I tried the game. Jan. =--- Simon Brown wrote... > Dunno, it didn't seem to work for me. I was trying flooring the throttle > sat still in first gear and trying to catch the spin and keep the car > straight. Despite being able to catch spins pretty good in GPL, Icouldn't > manage it once in GP3 unless I was prepared to lift off the throttle a > little. > >

Not just flooring it any throttle. If u cared to notice you cant FEATHER the throttle in gp3 As soon as it spins it first gear even at half throttle the revs flare up and u spin out U try spinning through first gear at any throttle. considering real f1 cars spin 1st 2nd 3rd and can keep it straight it should be easy huh? The gp3 cars are such dogs they dont even spin in 2nd gear in a straight line,in real life they are always batteling to put the power down,im flat out of all corners once i get about 40kph. Sad Danny <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]...

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> All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are > not canned ok then. > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in > first gear. > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real

life > F1 cars. > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel to > control the car and keep it straight. > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car withthe

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> wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws > you off when it decides it wants too. > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd > gear > all aids off of course. > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in

the

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> grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > Pathetic. > > > >

Are you done defending it? Danny <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]...

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> All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins are > not canned ok then. > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If you floor > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in > first gear. > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real

life > F1 cars. > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel to > control the car and keep it straight. > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car withthe

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> wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it still throws > you off when it decides it wants too. > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speed festival > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd > gear > all aids off of course. > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in

the

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> grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > Pathetic. > > > >

It is true that you can't control a spin without lifting.

Dunno, it didn't seem to work for me. I was trying flooring the throttle sat still in first gear and trying to catch the spin and keep the car straight. Despite being able to catch spins pretty good in GPL, I couldn't manage it once in GP3 unless I was prepared to lift off the throttle a little.

lol,i read it was hundreds or meters did you have a tape measure there did u? Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all the gears I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second Sjon Stigter <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8lh1hs$njo$[email hidden]...

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> are you done trolling GP3 now? > > > > "Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:%YSe5.1809$[email hidden]... > > All the GP3 supporters say the physics are good and you say the spins

are > > not canned ok then. > > I say the physics are canned,not as bad as GP2 but very close.If youfloor

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> > the throttle in first you HAVE to back off or you instantly spin out.You > > cannot catch the slide back and fight it with the wheel once it spins in > > first gear. > > ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > > > The game simply decides you have gone to far and spins you right out. > > > > And if you want to argue this point i issue you a challenge. > > > > I want you to try and do a standing start take off like they do in real > life > > F1 cars. > > Where they wheel spin 1st 2nd and into 3rd gear,fighting with the wheel

to > > control the car and keep it straight. > > > > Have fun trying cause you wont do it. > > As soon as you spin in first you are gone,you cannot fight the car with > the > > wheel AT ALL...in the wet it gives you a bit more time but it stillthrows > > you off when it decides it wants too. > > I saw jenson button do a 300 meter burn out at the goodwill speedfestival

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> > Try to even do a first gear burn out with out spinning out let alone 3rd > > gear > > all aids off of course. > > The model is too restrictive it wont even let you floor the throttle in > the > > grass or gravel,you have to get back on the road then u can LOL > > > > Oh and try to run the game at 640 480,its looks EXACTLY like gp2. > > crammond didnt use any of the special features of modern 3d cards. > > He only madegp3 run at higher res thats all. > > Thats why the game looks similar in software mode. > > > > Pathetic. > > > > > > > > > >

lol,i read it was hundreds or meters did you have a tape measure there did u? Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all the gears I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second Jo Helsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:18:46 +0100, "Douglas Ellison" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >You've never seen Jensen Button do a "300 meter burn out at the goodwill > >speed festival" > >What you saw was Jensen Button do a 100 burn out at the Goodwood Festivalof

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> >Speed. I was there. > > > >Doug > > Q: what implications does this have for the original poster's > credibility > > A: ............. > > > JoH

Yeah you are right dude,i dont know how to floor the throttle and make the car spin,they can all floor the throttle beter than me cant they. You stupid idiot,have u even played the game? Go back to need for speed fuckwit Jo Helsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:41:18 GMT, "Danny" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >lol,i read it was hundreds or meters > >did you have a tape measure there did u? > >Im sure he could of gone on for 500 meters > >point is a real F1 car do massvie burnouts and wheel spin in almost all

the > >gears > >I gp3 i cant get it to spin in second > > Others seem to be able to. Maybe you are just not good enough? > > JoH

> >Hmmm.... No wonder the English dropped you on that island far, far >away. > >JoH And this coming from a BELGIAN ??? HA FUCKIN' HA. Just remember whose gravestones you have out there. That's right, the people who saved your nations ass !!!

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> >>> >>>Hmmm.... No wonder the English dropped you on that island far, far >>>away. >>> >>>JoH >> >>And this coming from a BELGIAN ??? >> >>HA FUCKIN' HA. >> >>Just remember whose gravestones you have out there. >> >>That's right, the people who saved your nations ass !!! > >I don't have D.'s gravestone out here. Neither did he save my nations >ass. > >Besides, with Hitler located in New Zealand it would have been just >the other way around my guess! > >JoH >>>Hmmm.... No wonder the English dropped you on that island far, far

away. So are we talking about Danny here, or all Aussies ??? First you slag off ALL Aussies, then you retreat and just apply it to Danny, then you give me a hypothetical situation that means ABSOLOUTLY FUCK-ALL !! How about we get off each others backs in regards to where we're from, and talk about what we do, racing sims......

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> "Danny, you are Australian. So if your parents aren't Aboriginals, > then your far ancestors must have been criminals dropped as far away > as possible by the English. Contrary to most native Australians, this > bad behaviour was most probably geneticly determined in your > ancestors, causing a severe uncurable tendency towards bad-mouthing > and unreasonable behaviour even in later generations. I therefore > accuse you of confirming the totally false and dumb stereotype that > Australians must be bad people because some of their ancestors were > supposed to be."

I suspect you need to learn *alot* more about Australia before you can make such sweeping claims. I don't suppose you've ever heard of the word, 'migration'? Cheers, Rod. - Australian whos ancestors weren't sent here for being criminals.

In article <8C4f5.18918$[email hidden]>, Simon Brown <[email hidden]> writes >It is true that you can't control a spin without lifting. > >Can you turn into a spin when the back end starts to drift to far beyond the slip angle so as to catch it. You know, like in GPL when you feel the backend coming round and... Oh, never mind. :) -- Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington) No person's opinions can be said to be more correct than another's, because each is the sole judge of his or her own experience.

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> >ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > Sounds like F1 2K... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +69.95 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. I was practising this down Hockenheims straights this evening in F12000 - I got a (100% throttle all the way!) series of a about 3 or 4 burnouts that stayed on the track if I held on to each gear for longer that is seemed I should. If I changed up and changed up..I ended up in 7th, wheels doing 210mph, car doing 100mph - and loosing it one direction or another into the wall... It's possible to hold reasonable burn-outs in F12000!

do u have toe adjustments in F1 2000? dunno wht no camber or toe adjustments in GP3, o course we'd also need tire temps then, which are also missing, along with tire pressure... Martyn_D Douglas Ellison wrote:

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> > >ALL YOU CAN DO IS BACK OFF > > > > Sounds like F1 2K... > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPL hcp. +69.95 > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > I was practising this down Hockenheims straights this evening in F12000 - I > got a (100% throttle all the way!) series of a about 3 or 4 burnouts that > stayed on the track if I held on to each gear for longer that is seemed I > should. If I changed up and changed up..I ended up in 7th, wheels doing > 210mph, car doing 100mph - and loosing it one direction or another into the > wall... > > It's possible to hold reasonable burn-outs in F12000!

On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 11:42:22 +0200, Sjon Stigter <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Are you going to learn how to reply properly to a post? > > > >"Danny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:h5Ue5.1819$[email hidden]... >> Are you done defending it?

Will you learn how to snip useless drivel and *not* waste people's time and bandwith? Uwe -- Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) Ever wondered what's wrong with the world? http://bnetwork.com/ PGP Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61