GPL- Who uses the AI tweaker?

If I didn't I would go mad!

If I didn't I would go mad!

I used it for a while, but then I stopped. What I did instead was use AI Tweak to reset all AI to their original values, then make my PLAYER.STS file read/only. Then I just started racing Novice. Once you get to a reasonable level of ability, you should be able to compete there. For example, at Monza the qualifying time is between 1:30 and 1:31. If you can compete on-line then you should be able to compete with the Novice AI. You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. "Bmg3366" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If I didn't I would go mad!

where can I download it?/wl Bmg3366 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If I didn't I would go mad!

In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Sorry, Rob, but you can't. > >Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all the opposition >(AI) will be at the Novice level. >-- >Regards, >Bruce Kennewell, >Canberra, Australia. >--------------------------- > >Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> >> You can even run the World Champ at Novice level.

Huh? If you run the championship at novice level, you're *all* at novice level.... Did I misunderstand someone's statement/question? Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Sorry, Rob, but you can't. Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all the opposition (AI) will be at the Novice level. -- Regards, Bruce Kennewell, Canberra, Australia. --------------------------- Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. > > "Bmg3366" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > If I didn't I would go mad! > >

where can I download it?/wl

http://user.sgic.fi/~icon/ai_tweak/aitw103/ > where can I download it?/wl > > If I didn't I would go mad!

Still no cure for that... Oliver BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Sorry, Rob, but you can't. > > Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all theopposition

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> (AI) will be at the Novice level. > -- > Regards, > Bruce Kennewell, > Canberra, Australia. > --------------------------- > > Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. > > > > "Bmg3366" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > If I didn't I would go mad! > > > > > >

http://user.sgic.fi/~icon/ai_tweak/aitw103/ Lee Wee Leong <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss�:8khs3b$1p4$[email hidden]...

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> where can I download it?/wl > > Bmg3366 <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > If I didn't I would go mad! > >

Naaa i think someone misunderstood the original stuff above thinking that he wanted to run a championship in a trainer car. with AI tweak u can set the AI to run at Novice lap times in Championship mode, just can't change them to Trainers Martyn_D EldredP wrote:

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> In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> > writes: > > >Sorry, Rob, but you can't. > > > >Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all the opposition > >(AI) will be at the Novice level. > >-- > >Regards, > >Bruce Kennewell, > >Canberra, Australia. > >--------------------------- > > > >Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> > >> > >> You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. > > Huh? If you run the championship at novice level, you're *all* at novice > level.... Did I misunderstand someone's statement/question? > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Rob" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Yeah, that's what I meant. World Champ using F1 cars at the Novice (vs. >Intermediate, etc.) level. But you don't have to use the AI tweaker. Just >make sure the AI are at their initial level (i.e. the level they were when >you installed GPL). > >I'm currently at the 4th race (Spa) tied for 2nd place with: >Kya: 2nd, Monaco: 4th (after starting on pole), Zandy: 3rd (after starting >on pole).

You're tied for 2nd in the standings? Last time I ran a championship season, I only got 9(I think) points all YEAR... Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Yeah, that's what I meant. World Champ using F1 cars at the Novice (vs. Intermediate, etc.) level. But you don't have to use the AI tweaker. Just make sure the AI are at their initial level (i.e. the level they were when you installed GPL). I'm currently at the 4th race (Spa) tied for 2nd place with: Kya: 2nd, Monaco: 4th (after starting on pole), Zandy: 3rd (after starting on pole). Fun way to improve your times one track at a time. I've dropped my GPL Rank from 130's to 62! "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Naaa i think someone misunderstood the original stuff above thinking thathe > wanted to run a championship in a trainer car. > > with AI tweak u can set the AI to run at Novice lap times in Championshipmode,

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> just can't change them to Trainers > > Martyn_D > > EldredP wrote: > > > In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell"

<[email hidden]> > > writes: > > > > >Sorry, Rob, but you can't. > > > > > >Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all theopposition

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> > >(AI) will be at the Novice level. > > >-- > > >Regards, > > >Bruce Kennewell, > > >Canberra, Australia. > > >--------------------------- > > > > > >Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > >news:[email hidden]... > > >> > > >> > > >> You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. > > > > Huh? If you run the championship at novice level, you're *all* at

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> > level.... Did I misunderstand someone's statement/question? > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. >

Errrr i don't believe that actually works... When u load up AItweak, it shows a default AI skill level of 1.0 for PRO/GP races. Where as Novice shows 1.2 (the default at which GPL starts) I kinda think the 1.0 above takes precedence when u jump into a championship doesn't it? wish i could remember lol I helped with the last version of aitweak lol Martyn_D Rob wrote:

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> Yeah, that's what I meant. World Champ using F1 cars at the Novice (vs. > Intermediate, etc.) level. But you don't have to use the AI tweaker. Just > make sure the AI are at their initial level (i.e. the level they were when > you installed GPL). > > I'm currently at the 4th race (Spa) tied for 2nd place with: > Kya: 2nd, Monaco: 4th (after starting on pole), Zandy: 3rd (after starting > on pole). > > Fun way to improve your times one track at a time. I've dropped my GPL Rank > from 130's to 62! > > "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Naaa i think someone misunderstood the original stuff above thinking that > he > > wanted to run a championship in a trainer car. > > > > with AI tweak u can set the AI to run at Novice lap times in Championship > mode, > > just can't change them to Trainers > > > > Martyn_D > > > > EldredP wrote: > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" > <[email hidden]> > > > writes: > > > > > > >Sorry, Rob, but you can't. > > > > > > > >Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all the > opposition > > > >(AI) will be at the Novice level. > > > >-- > > > >Regards, > > > >Bruce Kennewell, > > > >Canberra, Australia. > > > >--------------------------- > > > > > > > >Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > >news:[email hidden]... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. > > > > > > Huh? If you run the championship at novice level, you're *all* at > novice > > > level.... Did I misunderstand someone's statement/question? > > > > > > Eldred > > > -- > > > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > > with experience... > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

Yikes, I dunno. I used AI tweak a while to try to get a competitive (slower) race at Monza, then I discovered that at Novice level I was beating them easily. So I pressed any "Default" button I could find in AI Tweak, and set my player.sts file to read/only. So I don't really know what level of "tweak" the AI is at. I assumed that it was back to square 1. I was planning to just race each track at Novice until I could get top 3. I wasn't EVER planning on doing the World Champ because I thought it only ran at GP length. But I thought I should at least look, and you can specify Novice. If lap times help, my 1:30.96 at Monaco was pole, as was my 1:29.17. Either way, I'm having tons of fun running the championship. I'm cheating of course - if I crash out of a race or even get a really bad start, I exit and try again. But if I get passed fair and square by the AI I don't exit. Hence the 4th at Monaco. I led for the first half, then crashed at the chicane and lost 3 spots. "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Errrr i don't believe that actually works... > > When u load up AItweak, it shows a default AI skill level of 1.0 forPRO/GP > races. Where as Novice shows 1.2 (the default at which GPL starts) Ikinda > think the 1.0 above takes precedence when u jump into a championshipdoesn't

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> it? > > wish i could remember lol > I helped with the last version of aitweak lol > > Martyn_D > > Rob wrote: > > > Yeah, that's what I meant. World Champ using F1 cars at the Novice (vs. > > Intermediate, etc.) level. But you don't have to use the AI tweaker.

Just > > make sure the AI are at their initial level (i.e. the level they werewhen > > you installed GPL). > > > > I'm currently at the 4th race (Spa) tied for 2nd place with: > > Kya: 2nd, Monaco: 4th (after starting on pole), Zandy: 3rd (afterstarting > > on pole). > > > > Fun way to improve your times one track at a time. I've dropped my GPLRank > > from 130's to 62! > > > > "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Naaa i think someone misunderstood the original stuff above thinkingthat > > he > > > wanted to run a championship in a trainer car. > > > > > > with AI tweak u can set the AI to run at Novice lap times inChampionship

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> > mode, > > > just can't change them to Trainers > > > > > > Martyn_D > > > > > > EldredP wrote: > > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" > > <[email hidden]> > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > >Sorry, Rob, but you can't. > > > > > > > > > >Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all the > > opposition > > > > >(AI) will be at the Novice level. > > > > >-- > > > > >Regards, > > > > >Bruce Kennewell, > > > > >Canberra, Australia. > > > > >--------------------------- > > > > > > > > > >Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > >news:[email hidden]... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. > > > > > > > > Huh? If you run the championship at novice level, you're *all* at > > novice > > > > level.... Did I misunderstand someone's statement/question? > > > > > > > > Eldred > > > > -- > > > > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > > > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > > > > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then

beats > > you > > > > with experience... > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > > >

I guess if you set everything to default, yer sts read only (delete it then restart gpl so it gets created again, then make it readonly). You should now be set at just like it came outta the box, and it will stay that way with yer sts read only I'm just pretty sure the AI will be faster at PRO levels than Novice tho MArtyn_D Either way , just enjoy it Rob wrote:

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> Yikes, I dunno. I used AI tweak a while to try to get a competitive (slower) > race at Monza, then I discovered that at Novice level I was beating them > easily. So I pressed any "Default" button I could find in AI Tweak, and set > my player.sts file to read/only. > > So I don't really know what level of "tweak" the AI is at. I assumed that it > was back to square 1. > > I was planning to just race each track at Novice until I could get top 3. I > wasn't EVER planning on doing the World Champ because I thought it only ran > at GP length. But I thought I should at least look, and you can specify > Novice. > > If lap times help, my 1:30.96 at Monaco was pole, as was my 1:29.17. > > Either way, I'm having tons of fun running the championship. I'm cheating of > course - if I crash out of a race or even get a really bad start, I exit and > try again. But if I get passed fair and square by the AI I don't exit. Hence > the 4th at Monaco. I led for the first half, then crashed at the chicane and > lost 3 spots. > > "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Errrr i don't believe that actually works... > > > > When u load up AItweak, it shows a default AI skill level of 1.0 for > PRO/GP > > races. Where as Novice shows 1.2 (the default at which GPL starts) I > kinda > > think the 1.0 above takes precedence when u jump into a championship > doesn't > > it? > > > > wish i could remember lol > > I helped with the last version of aitweak lol > > > > Martyn_D > > > > Rob wrote: > > > > > Yeah, that's what I meant. World Champ using F1 cars at the Novice (vs. > > > Intermediate, etc.) level. But you don't have to use the AI tweaker. > Just > > > make sure the AI are at their initial level (i.e. the level they were > when > > > you installed GPL). > > > > > > I'm currently at the 4th race (Spa) tied for 2nd place with: > > > Kya: 2nd, Monaco: 4th (after starting on pole), Zandy: 3rd (after > starting > > > on pole). > > > > > > Fun way to improve your times one track at a time. I've dropped my GPL > Rank > > > from 130's to 62! > > > > > > "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Naaa i think someone misunderstood the original stuff above thinking > that > > > he > > > > wanted to run a championship in a trainer car. > > > > > > > > with AI tweak u can set the AI to run at Novice lap times in > Championship > > > mode, > > > > just can't change them to Trainers > > > > > > > > Martyn_D > > > > > > > > EldredP wrote: > > > > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" > > > <[email hidden]> > > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > >Sorry, Rob, but you can't. > > > > > > > > > > > >Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all the > > > opposition > > > > > >(AI) will be at the Novice level. > > > > > >-- > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > >Bruce Kennewell, > > > > > >Canberra, Australia. > > > > > >--------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > >news:[email hidden]... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. > > > > > > > > > > Huh? If you run the championship at novice level, you're *all* at > > > novice > > > > > level.... Did I misunderstand someone's statement/question? > > > > > > > > > > Eldred > > > > > -- > > > > > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > > > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > > > > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > > > > > > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then > beats > > > you > > > > > with experience... > > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > > > > >

Oh, absolutely they are. I was just talking about racing at Novice. All the other levels work as you would expect (in other words I get my a$$ handed to me by everybody!). "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I guess if you set everything to default, yer sts read only (delete itthen > restart gpl so it gets created again, then make it readonly). You shouldnow be > set at just like it came outta the box, and it will stay that way with yersts

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> read only > I'm just pretty sure the AI will be faster at PRO levels than Novice tho > > MArtyn_D > > Either way , just enjoy it > > Rob wrote: > > > Yikes, I dunno. I used AI tweak a while to try to get a competitive

(slower) > > race at Monza, then I discovered that at Novice level I was beating them > > easily. So I pressed any "Default" button I could find in AI Tweak, andset > > my player.sts file to read/only. > > > > So I don't really know what level of "tweak" the AI is at. I assumedthat it > > was back to square 1. > > > > I was planning to just race each track at Novice until I could get top3. I > > wasn't EVER planning on doing the World Champ because I thought it onlyran > > at GP length. But I thought I should at least look, and you can specify > > Novice. > > > > If lap times help, my 1:30.96 at Monaco was pole, as was my 1:29.17. > > > > Either way, I'm having tons of fun running the championship. I'mcheating of > > course - if I crash out of a race or even get a really bad start, I exitand > > try again. But if I get passed fair and square by the AI I don't exit.Hence > > the 4th at Monaco. I led for the first half, then crashed at the chicaneand

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> > lost 3 spots. > > > > "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Errrr i don't believe that actually works... > > > > > > When u load up AItweak, it shows a default AI skill level of 1.0 for > > PRO/GP > > > races. Where as Novice shows 1.2 (the default at which GPL starts) I > > kinda > > > think the 1.0 above takes precedence when u jump into a championship > > doesn't > > > it? > > > > > > wish i could remember lol > > > I helped with the last version of aitweak lol > > > > > > Martyn_D > > > > > > Rob wrote: > > > > > > > Yeah, that's what I meant. World Champ using F1 cars at the Novice

(vs. > > > > Intermediate, etc.) level. But you don't have to use the AI tweaker. > > Just > > > > make sure the AI are at their initial level (i.e. the level theywere

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> > when > > > > you installed GPL). > > > > > > > > I'm currently at the 4th race (Spa) tied for 2nd place with: > > > > Kya: 2nd, Monaco: 4th (after starting on pole), Zandy: 3rd (after > > starting > > > > on pole). > > > > > > > > Fun way to improve your times one track at a time. I've dropped my

GPL > > Rank > > > > from 130's to 62! > > > > > > > > "SKurj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > Naaa i think someone misunderstood the original stuff abovethinking

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> > that > > > > he > > > > > wanted to run a championship in a trainer car. > > > > > > > > > > with AI tweak u can set the AI to run at Novice lap times in > > Championship > > > > mode, > > > > > just can't change them to Trainers > > > > > > > > > > Martyn_D > > > > > > > > > > EldredP wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, "Bruce Kennewell" > > > > <[email hidden]> > > > > > > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > >Sorry, Rob, but you can't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Well...you can, s'pose, but you will be at F1 level and all

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> > > > opposition > > > > > > >(AI) will be at the Novice level. > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > >Regards, > > > > > > >Bruce Kennewell, > > > > > > >Canberra, Australia. > > > > > > >--------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Rob <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > > > > >news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> You can even run the World Champ at Novice level. > > > > > > > > > > > > Huh? If you run the championship at novice level, you're *all*

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> > > > novice > > > > > > level.... Did I misunderstand someone's statement/question? > > > > > > > > > > > > Eldred > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > > > > > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > > > > > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > > > > > > > > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level,

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> > beats > > > > you > > > > > > with experience... > > > > > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > > > > > > > > >

If you saw my other note you'll see that I CHEAT!! <g> I keep at qualifying until I get front row - abandoning races until that happens. Then if I screw up at the start or during the race I abandon. I only complete a race if I'm doing well. GPL's pretty nice about that - it saves your qualifying times if you want, and doesn't save race results if you quit early. If I get passed fair and square I don't quit but if I spin I quit - I don't want to finish out of the points. So yeah, I have to be fast enough to compete, but it's not an all-or-nothing thing. I really want to see what happens when you win a season (people who have, please don't tell me!). You (Eldred) should be able to get the same results as me - until yesterday we were basically tied in GPL Rank (then I found a few seconds at Mosport and Spa). And keep in mind this is a NOVICE world champ - the AI cars are considerably slower at that level (F1 cars (not trainers), but Novice level). I have a little spreadsheet that simulates GPL Rank but uses average novice qual times as the benchmark and I'm in the 30's, most of which is at the Ring. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, "Rob"<[email hidden]> > writes: > > >Yeah, that's what I meant. World Champ using F1 cars at the Novice (vs. > >Intermediate, etc.) level. But you don't have to use the AI tweaker. Just > >make sure the AI are at their initial level (i.e. the level they werewhen > >you installed GPL). > > > >I'm currently at the 4th race (Spa) tied for 2nd place with: > >Kya: 2nd, Monaco: 4th (after starting on pole), Zandy: 3rd (afterstarting > >on pole). > > You're tied for 2nd in the standings? Last time I ran a championshipseason, I

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> only got 9(I think) points all YEAR... > > Eldred > -- > Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > GPL hcp. +70.45 > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>If you saw my other note you'll see that I CHEAT!! <g> I keep at qualifying >until I get front row - abandoning races until that happens. Then if I screw >up at the start or during the race I abandon. I only complete a race if I'm >doing well. GPL's pretty nice about that - it saves your qualifying times if >you want, and doesn't save race results if you quit early. If I get passed >fair and square I don't quit but if I spin I quit - I don't want to finish >out of the points. >

Oh, ok. I just keep plodding through...

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>So yeah, I have to be fast enough to compete, but it's not an all-or-nothing >thing. I really want to see what happens when you win a season (people who >have, please don't tell me!). > >You (Eldred) should be able to get the same results as me - until yesterday >we were basically tied in GPL Rank (then I found a few seconds at Mosport >and Spa).

Nah, I always f-up somewhere... I should have won at least 4 races when I used the Ferrari during a season. Ended up with only one... > >And keep in mind this is a NOVICE world champ - the AI cars are considerably >slower at that level (F1 cars (not trainers), but Novice level). I have a >little spreadsheet that simulates GPL Rank but uses average novice qual >times as the benchmark and I'm in the 30's, most of which is at the Ring. > I run the Novice level, too. Eldred -- Tiger Stadium R.I.P. 1912-1999 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett GPL hcp. +70.45 Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Time and patience is something you have in large quantities? Oliver BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu "Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > If you saw my other note you'll see that I CHEAT!! <g> I keep atqualifying > until I get front row - abandoning races until that happens. Then if Iscrew > up at the start or during the race I abandon. I only complete a race ifI'm > doing well. GPL's pretty nice about that - it saves your qualifying timesif > you want, and doesn't save race results if you quit early. If I get passed > fair and square I don't quit but if I spin I quit - I don't want to finish > out of the points. > > So yeah, I have to be fast enough to compete, but it's not anall-or-nothing > thing. I really want to see what happens when you win a season (people who > have, please don't tell me!). > > You (Eldred) should be able to get the same results as me - untilyesterday > we were basically tied in GPL Rank (then I found a few seconds at Mosport > and Spa). > > And keep in mind this is a NOVICE world champ - the AI cars areconsiderably > slower at that level (F1 cars (not trainers), but Novice level). I have a > little spreadsheet that simulates GPL Rank but uses average novice qual > times as the benchmark and I'm in the 30's, most of which is at the Ring.